TO EVERYONE THAT IS WATCHING THIS VIDEO AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE TWITTER DRAMA: please do not hate on gabby. her win here was 100% deserved, as was her Olympic AA win as well. i understand that jordyn and aly were just teenagers then, but that still does not make their alleged comments okay/not bad. let's just all be peaceful, supportive, and uplifting gymnastics fans :)
@@likacl at around 1:14:56 people were saying that they could hear aly and jordyn were saying "Gabby? An olympian?" and then right after aly makes that gagging reaction. not 100% sure, but it does look convincing if i'm being honest :(
@TurboCMinusMinus I honestly have know idea but considering she was an alternate that’s probably a fair guess. From what I understand, she and her coaches were only ever aspiring to the alternate position anyways and were perfectly happy/ didn’t feel they got a raw deal.
I think Elizabeth Price got a raw deal. She came in 4th for Pete's sake! It should have been her as the 4th spot and Maroney as an alternate. Now granted I was lucky enough to watch her career at Stanford and she was a wonderful collegiate gymnast but still...this was heart breaking for me when it happened then and it still does when I watch again.
My heart broke for Rebecca. She was so talented and had so much more to accomplish in the sport but her body just gave out. She was amazing and it’s so sad to think about how much she could’ve accomplished if she had a coach who actually put her health first and didn’t push her so much
I feel like if you have a weird quirk in your body like Rebecca does - with the incredibly knocked knees, you need special coaching and PT to strengthen the right muscles to keep your legs safe and strong. I feel like it's almost impossible for someone with that issue to be able to have any type of long career as a gymnast, it's so taxing on your body.
Kira Vega I agree. Even though she thought knees has healed, her body was still to weak to do gymnastics even though she was doing to events which would put less pressure on her knees.
Same here. I felt so horrible for her when she fell. It looked crazy painful and she looked like she tweaked her neck. I just cringed because I could feel her pain through the screen. OUCH! 😫😫😫
@@apollopraetorius216 Right but Gabby got seventh at Olympic trials in 2016 all around and was only used on uneven bars in rio and had lower scores then Kocian. Who was taken as a bar specialist. They could’ve taken Makayla Skinner, Reagan Smith, or Maggie Nichols as all around gymnast instead of Gabby Douglas. It could’ve been Simone, Aly, and Laurie in the qualifying trying to make the all around and then one of the girls I just mentioned above could’ve Done vault, beam, and floor in qualifying. There was absolutely no need for Gabby Douglas to be on the Olympic team other than to have two Olympians come back and they really didn’t need that either because they already had Aly who really earned her spot. Nastia had every right to be irritated about the fact that they chose Gabby over Maggie. I don’t think Gabby or Maggie should’ve been there I think it should’ve been Makayla Skinner because of her placement in the all around at trials but either way any of the three girls that placed higher than Gabby would’ve been better choices.
I know! She earned it fair and square, and yes I feel bad for Jordyn bc the 2 per country rule sucks, but they really should’ve given gabby the credit she deserved.
The fact that Nastia got back up on those bars, after falling and holding back tears, shows how much of an amazing athlete she is. She didn’t give up and finished that routine strong. That takes a lot of mental strength
I know, so different than so many other coaches. I wish Elizabeth would’ve been selected, it would’ve shown that compassionate coaches can build amazing athletes and take them to the Olympics.
@@deedee1605 Thank God for your comment lol. I read the first 3 replies to this and it was looking like nobody was going to acknowledge the well known truth of the matter 😳
Exactly! 2012 was Jordan Jordan Jordan nothing for Gabby the clip is also in here where Jordan whispers to Aly “Gabby an Olympian?!” and Aly stuck her tongue out as if a being sick face. The treatment Gabby got from those two was shocking as well!!
That's exactly what I was thinking. She came back to late to even get a spot. I've always thought if she came back even a few months earlier, she would have a much better chance at getting a spot. She just wasnt in good enough shape.
@Nunovurbznzsodontask did you go to the Olympic trials as well? Do you know her personally to say that she is cocky? She has achieved more than you will ever achieve :*
The 2012 London UB Final could not be more exciting if Nastia was back in the mix! I always wanna see Nastia competing against Aliya and He Kexin (again)
Thank you so much for uploading this. Watching this almost 7 years later, I have a soft spot for this particular team. The first team to win gold since the 1996 Olympic team in Atlanta, they faced a lot of adversity. Many of these gymnasts were injured while competing at the Olympics, and ALL FIVE were molested by that evil man. I can't imagine the strength and bravery these women--honestly these GIRLS--possessed at this time. It was a privilege to witness their win in London but also to see these teenagers mature and grow into incredible women that are role models in the sport.
Their obsession with Jordan was crazy. They thought she was a guarantee for the all around. I’m still surprised she beat Victoria Komova for the world title.
I agree, I really don't see anything special about her. People complain about how Tim constantly brings up Simone but at least you can see why, she's a phenome while wieber is basic.
Jordyn was still more guaranteed than anyone else since she was the world champ at the time. It's easy to say now since we know she didn't even make AA final. Jordyn was still very strong on vault, beam and floor during the Olympics. She could have medaled in all of them including AA with her level of difficulties.
Kyla is such a beautiful and calm gymnast. Makayla is so powerful and she has the lines as well. Aly is just so calm and sure of herself. You can tell that Jordyn is so driven by the sport. Sure Gabby has struggled with constancy in the past but she has really proven herself at these trials. The 2012 Olympic team was so incredibly talented.
This is my favorite team. I was also 16 in 2012 and just felt so connected to these girls as if they were my friends. I wish they hadn’t had to endure so many horrible things during this time. They are so brave and truly such wonderful role models. McKayla is one of my favorite gymnasts of all time and I miss watching her compete but I am so glad that she stepped away to take care of herself.
I remember watching this live and really appreciating the response that Nastia received from this crowd. They knew what that fall meant, and they did their best to lift her up and show some heavy appreciation for her in what must have been a difficult moment. At least she got a good send-off.
It pretty much is decided. Unless someone has a complete meltdown. For example, if Kyla would've completely bombed this, she probably wouldn't have made the team. For Jordyn, Gabby, Ally, and McKayla, it was pretty much already set in stone.
yes, the choices were penciled in but this competition was important to solidify those decisions. The one thing that they did was look at the athletes' whole body of work - competitions, practices, participation, etc. Much better than depending on the outcome of one competition and also helped ensure more consistent performance rather than just having a 'good night'
Al's favorite question: "Was that a stick?" I know he has no gymnastics experience, but for Pete's Sake--he's been covering the sport for like, 20 years. You'd think he'd learn the basics!
99miyah i think when he asks he knows the answer but it is to make the people who are watching who maybe don't know much about gymnastics learn what it's about :)
What’s truly sad is, by the beginning of 2011 I had a strong feeling she’d be no more than an alternate to the Olympic team. She had become super inconsistent… and that doesn’t make you team material unfortunately. The injury made it a lock.
I was upset elizabeth price didn't make the team, but now that I'm watching this years later, it makes sense. The formula for the U.S. team selection is usually: The top 3 all-around girls from trials +1 pretty good AA person who’s best event(s) are where the team needs more points +1 event specialist (usually for the event that the team is weakest) Price unfortunately wasn’t any of those. She's a good AA choice and great at vault, but they can only send 2 girls to AA finals and she was not even close to top 2 (not super close to 3rd place either). She didn't place top 3 in any event at trials except vault, but if they want a vault specialist, they're going to pick the world champion (mckayla). For the team event, 4 girls have to do each event and 3 of those scores count. The last girl they choose is someone who is pretty good at all the events (if needed) but is great at the event where the team is the weakest: bars (aly and mckayla both suck at bars, so they need a 3rd girl who's good at bars). Kyla WON bars (tied w/ gabby) AND got 3rd on beam AND she was only .1 points behind price overall. And even if price got .5 points higher on beam (I personally think she was underscored), she'd tie for 3rd on beam w/ Kyla, so it still makes sense to take Kyla. tbh it would make more sense to replace mckayla (not kyla) with price because price is a great vaulter. They'd still want kyla for bars, even if she was just a specialist. But mckayla was literally the best vaulter in the world so…they weren’t going to leave her.
@Serenas Temper oh right, I'm thinking of team qualifications (which is 4-4-3), but you're right, finals is 4-3-3. And I do get where you're coming from for "fairness" but I feel like most elite girls work equally hard, so strategically I think it makes more sense to "round out" the team. I agree that you don't always need a specialist, but sometimes I think you really do. Especially if the top 5 are all good at the same things (which was the issue in 2016), because you can only send 3 per event so you can't even use the 4th and 5th people for their strengths (because they're 4th and 5th, so why wouldn't you use the top 3). At 2016 trials, Ragan was 5th overall and got 2nd on beam but if she made the team I don't even know what she'd compete because even though she did well at trials, simone, aly, and laurie are arguably better beam workers (simone just fucked up at trials). And if you're not sending ragan for beam, why send her at all? Her only other good event is floor but all 4 other girls were better than her. They highkey needed a bars specialist in 2016, if they had taken top 5 AA (simone, laurie, aly, mykayla, ragan), they just don't have 3 good bar workers. It would've been simone, laurie, and then...I guess ragan?? who was bad at bars (10th at trials), but is technically better than aly and mykayla because they're horrible. Without a specialist, they would've at least needed someone like gabby (which gives the the same dilemma of taking someone who isn't top 5 in AA). In 2012 they def could've left maroney, she wasn't THAT important to the team score and they could've used price for vault instead, but price would probably just do vault, which would kinda make her a specialist anyway. It'll be interesting with the new 2020 rules, because you could just send someone like maroney as an individual athlete and she could just do vault.
Price was the perfect alternate for all the reasons you stated. If McKayla went down before London (and she almost did), Price would have been her replacement. I think she would have replaced Raisman/Wieber as well. If Ross went down, Li (if she hadn't injured herself) would have been her replacement. I think Finnegan would have replaced if two people went down. Before also forget that the U.S. seriously needed an uneven bars worker as that was their weakness. Russia had an advantage there and there was still trauma from 2008 where the Chinese practically won on paper due to their D-score advantage thanks to bars. This wasn't 2016 and the U.S. gold wasn't a foregone conclusion.
I think Price would´ve been the better choice for alternate indeed but there's another reason why they took Mckyla instead of her and that's the fact that she was a certain medal for USA on vault. IMO that's the same reason they took Gabby in 2016, she was on medal contention for bars (not that she was a bad all-arounder in 2016 but Simone, Laurie, and Aly were better. I do think they could've gone 1, 2, 3, and 4 in the AA easy if it was possible for all of them to compete. I think even Maddison could've made top 10 AA. That team was insane).
All the girls were good. The press had already decided that Jordyn Weber was the clear AA champion. She had all those commercials...she was already making a lot of money. But we know how this turns out. I’m just happy it’s turned out well for Kyla Ross, Gabby Douglass, and Alexandria Raisman. I’m also happy that Jordyn Weber is doing so well as a coach. She is truly blessed. McKayla M. won at the Olympics and was so great. She was truly an asset to USA. E. price was great also at this event. She had a great gymnastic career at Stanford. Choices were made and the team was chosen. I like the way Maggie Nichols dealt with not making the next Olympic team. She is so great at Oklahoma. Maggie is such an asset. The moral of the story is ...you just have to roll with the punches. Deal with whatever life gives you and make the best of it. A door may close but a window will open. Blessings and good fortune to all.
I believe that if Jordyn hadn't been dealing with an injury at the Olympics she probably would have competed better, but you can only perform through the pain so much before it hinders your performance somewhere. Plus we all know that in 2012 that Nassar was still the team doctor which means that he was treating her most likely daily. That's alot for the psyche to deal with, I'm amazed she was able to do as well as she did with all that going on. Plus the mental and physical abuse we can assume she received from Geddert (I don't know if Jordyn ever came out to say how he treated her.)
He seems like a wonderful coach..not just good at coaching but a good person too. Im sure hes hard but dont serm like hed be an ass or disrespectful..someone i can trust sending my kid to
hejiupengyou yeah Fong was also the coach of the girl who ended up dying of anorexia, Christy Henrich. He had many issues with students alleging abusive coachings, but as far as I've heard, none of Chow's gymnasts have ever claimed any such thing about him. He's generally loved by his gymnasts. Interestingly, his training schedule actually involves significantly less training time than many other coaches. Average at this level is 40-45 hours per week, Chow's students train more like 25. But I guess it's worked for them, he's got two gold medalists. Different strokes...
I fell like gabby is constantly seen as good enough to medal but not win and here and at the Olympics she proved that she’s a winner. Also in 2015 she basic won worlds by getting second to Simone making a successful comeback.
Marsha Julessa it also seems kinda like the other girls weren’t happy about her winning. Maybe it’s a jealousy thing, because she’s a phenomenal athlete.
I think they didn't believe she had the potential to win AA. They thought she was definitely good for the team event since she does all 4 events, but that she wouldn't have really placed. We all see how that turned out.
Watching all the throwback Olympics just hits different when you know what happened to them this whole time. I was always tearing up when they won in the Olympics because I looked up to them and it was just jaw dropping. But now seeing it again, it’s tears of being happy for them and being sad for them that they were all being abused and nobody stopped it. Nobody helped them. But they are survivors and heroes. All of them. Even the ones who didn’t make it to the Olympics. They are all heroes.💗
Nastia - Beautiful Mykayla - Her twisting is out of this world. even on the floor, she gets so much air time that her twisting is like.. slow. it's unbelieveable.
It's clear that Valeri does not have his gymnasts best interests at heart....besides Nastia, of course. Granted, that's his daughter and he absolutely should. After seeing this with Bross and hearing the stories from Mattie Larson during the Nassar trial and Katelyn Ohashi in a variety of interviews, I just wish he did the same for the rest of his athletes.
“Its nasty but it’s functional” Why tf do you care how her scar looks? She got surgery, recovered, and is in the Olympic trials. Leave the poor girl alone.
I'm glad that this video is still on TH-cam. I'm still trying to find the full floor event final from Rio 2016. All the gymnasts are amazing human beings.
Props to all those women that year. Jordyn, Aly, Kyla, McKayla and Gabby all deserved their spot on the team. My heart breaks for Rebecca every time I see that bar routine. And the way Valeri treated her after that, he left her on her own not even comforting her for a second even though she was visibly upset! The other gymnasts present that night such as Elizabeth Price went on to have a great collegiate gymnastics career!
Watching Rebecca Bross- she never seemed happy…. Always depressed I’m not this but all of her meets. She was an incredible gymnast and I hope she finds peace in all of her work
Watching this in April 2020 & loving it, bc I can’t get enough of gymnastics content, & it’s just so perfect to pass the time in this “shelter-in-place” quarantine time due to the Coronavirus.
Anyone else watching this in 2020 wondering how different the team would have been if Tom was selecting? Maybe Elizabeth Price would have been on the team 🤷🏽♀️
I wouldve picked elizabeth as an all around, but since she has the amanar and their scores were so close, you could see they only needed for bars and maybe beam, kyla was a better option by a small margin, eventho Price was definitely a better choice for an all around replacement..
Yeah... but the way these girls are performing now, I am not pleased. They are garbage compared to the old gymnasts. If Simone wasn't around, the U.S. would be toast.
@Sacha Bono Disagree. I think an argument could have been made that we didn't really need McKayla Maroney as the other four gymnasts on the team were capable of Amanars as well and with Price, that would have been five. However, Maroney was the best vaulter in the world at this point and she performed one of the most near-perfect Amanars in history at the Olympic games Team Final. Maroney also showed her consistency by being used in team finals for floor as well as vault at 2011 Worlds scoring close to Raisman and Wieber there. Price was the perfect alternate because she was NOT in the top three on beam/bars/floor but could fill in in case one of the gymnasts who were in the top three dropped before the Games except for bars where Anna Li would have been the one to replace. Don't forget that the U.S. desperately needed bars and beam workers to compete against Russia in 2012. It's not like now where the U.S. has been consistently way ahead. Although the U.S. won 2011 Worlds it wasn't a blow out like we're used to know and the Russians there almost had a 1 point advantage on uneven bars. The U.S. also came off a loss at 2010 Worlds and at the 2008 Olympics, the Chinese had already beaten the U.S. for gold ON PAPER because there was such a big deficit on uneven bars for the U.S. Not wanting history to repeat itself, Marta put Ross in because Kyla Ross was needed to cover bars and beam in a 3-up-3-count team final and bridge that gap. Marta lost a lot of big events and the U.S. hadn't won an Olympic team gold since 1996, and she knew she needed Ross there just in case Russia brought it.
@@treyartemov8974 Are you actually trying to make the case that Gabby Douglas, who won not only Trials but also Olympic All-Around gold, should have been left off the team in favor of the fourth place finisher at Trials? I love Ebee and it sucks that there were only 5 places available on the team, but no way should she have made the team over Gabby.
Kelli Leslie exactly, she came back and still placed second at worlds only to Simone and people still said she was being favored and didn’t deserve it and she also placed 3rd in the Olympics qualifications with subpar performances and people still knock her. She’s a strong woman that keeps proving everyone wrong
Well if she was "mad at the world", shouldn't we have been more concerned for her and what SHE was going through instead of expecting her to put on a fake smile for US? She was the same person, just possibly someone going through something. And we now know one of the things she was going through, unfortunately.
Don’t you know, women are only supposed to smile and be happy? If she was a man, you wouldn’t think twice about it. Plus, don’t you think it’s OK for her to be angry at the world when she was being molested? Maybe just don’t comment.
almost every single balance beam routine alicia did after the Olympics, they brought up her fall, whether it was mentioning it or showing a clip of it, they always said something about the fall and that was always so ridiculous and unnecessary to me. like yeah we get it, she fell during the team final. millions watched it when it happened, we didn’t need the constant reminders every competition during her comeback and im sure alicia didn’t either.
Everybody likes to say that her fall on the BB is what cost them the gold, but in reality the start value wasn't high enough to begin with. Even a perfect routine wouldn't have been enough to win. So the fall was completely irrelevant, no matter how much they keep harping on it.
@@marsbars2889 You represent everything that's wrong with the left. Rage, hate, bitterness, and a complete inability to forgive anyone for the unconscionable sin of disagreeing with you. One of the most important character traits in a decent human being is a well-developed sense of empathy, and your comment makes it clear that you don't have any. Everyone is fighting a personal battle, and if you can't show some compassion for someone else then you can't expect them to show you any either.
@@tessajanemtl probably recovering from all the sexual abuse trauma she had. her teammates said she was abused the worst by that terrible criminal "doctor"
@@danceballetacro where did you hear her "teammates" ssid that? I've read hundreds and hundreds of interviews, depositions and transcripts and never saw anything close to that said. Not saying it isn't true. I just don't think it was said
I remember watching this competition so well. It was an emotional roller coaster. Nastia's end was sad but at least she already had the top prize in the sport. Rebecca never made it to an Olympics and it was heartbreaking to watch that bar routine. She had some really bad luck in her career but she was a great gymnast...I hope she is doing well these days.
Jordon Jordon Jordon...the worst commentary I’ve ever heard. Such disrespect to Gabby and all the other athletes. Gabby smashed it out the park at the Olympics! I almost turned it off!! It’s not the Jordon show!
To be fair Simone is much more dominant in every way than Jordyn or any other athlete for that matter. But yeah, we need to spend more time on other athletes.
I know that there is a lot of criticism about everything that happened after, but the look in Martha’s eye after Rebecas uneven bars tells me that she cared. She was tough because she wanted to win, but her tears still say - “I’m sorry that happened to you” idk.. just my opinion from her reaction
Jose Zuniga I think the hard thing about watching Bross is know how hard of a worker she was and how talented. Her body just straight up gave up on her. That’s difficult to watch.
They cared, but not enough to put a stop to sexual abuse they 100% knew about. They knew that if they did anything about it, their empire would be destroyed (as it had been since).
1:15 Now I see what Gabby was experiencing when she say she was being bullied by the other girls on the team. Everybody thought Jordan was going to win that first spot
Truth is Nastia was proving to take the high road by getting back up and finishing her bars routine. This by far is what makes her world class in my honest opinion.
anyone else would've got up and finished also. when have you ever seen a gymnast fall and not continue? never. we are always taught to finish our routines no matter what.
Kyla’s Phantom of the Opera music on floor made me want to one too, and here I am now doing it! We even went to see the musical 💕 And on March 10, I’m going to see UCLA’s meet against Stanford! What present day has come to!
She should have been on the team over Jordyn Weiner. Makayla Maroneys average on vault was about a 16, Alys was a 15.85. Ana would have helped the team a lot more
I agree! Love Alicia and she had the meet of her life that day. She probably would’ve gone to London if mckayla hadn’t recovered. She’d have a chance to get a 2012 vault medal
I thought Chellsie was injured at VISAs. I hope she makes it at least to Worlds next year if not the Olympics!!!!! And its cool the story between Tom and Chellsie.
@@2134knees From what I've been able to pick up, she was injured at 2011 Visas. Then when she rehabbed, she came back to 2012 classic. She had four routines ready to go, and Martha saw them all, but chose to only compete beam to be safe with the injury. She fell, and petitioned to go to nationals since her score wasn't high enough. Martha declined her petition. No Nationals, no trials. Hence RAGE AT MARTHA
Nastia is so beautiful to watch even when she falls she flicks her toe up to a point!!! She’s the most graceful gymnast I’ve ever seen and I can’t take my eyes off her 😍!!! She definitely didn’t give herself enough time to prepare for these competitions. At least she had the heart to try , what a champion 👏🏼👑
Luikin keeps his gymnasts injured! Look at Konner McClain, she just left Luikin because she was always injured. She said she left to get healthy. And it's sad with Gabby's comeback for 2024 she's training in his gym! Girl run and run fast!!!
In my opinion,Nastia wasn’t performing like someone who wanted to go London. She looked tired,exhausted and like her love for the sport just wasn’t there the way it was in 2008. I think there was a tremendous amount of pressure from her dad to come back and compete. Because she didn’t look like she wanted it at all.
I feel like Bross would have stories to tell about these trials. She has clearly JUST had intense surgery on her knee, they pushed these very young bodies through so much trauma and pain - I just hope none of them have long term effects of competing on these injuries. They deserved better.
Sylvia Garcia Maroney has got to be one of the more underrated American gymnasts, especially since she went to the Olympics. It’s like, she’s only known for vault, but she really could have been an AA without 2 per country rule. Vault isn’t even her favorite event
Mihai and Chow were such great coaches, It seemed like they really treated their athletes well. I'm sad they're not in the US anymore. China and Australia are lucky to have them!
Mihai is back in the US now. I hope USAG (Tom or,whomever is in charge) gives this awesome man and coach what he deserves. He said he didn't know about Aly's abuse at Nassars hands.
Watching this again in May 2020. Elizabeth Price should have been on that team. Teams need to go back to 6. I wish the International Gymnastics Powers That Be would stop trying to stifle the sport and let it grow.
Watching July 2020 because I miss the Olympics and can't wait for next year. I really wish Price had been given the opportunity to go to the Olympics, as well. She was AMAZING during the trials. I hear she is at Harvard completing her Master's in Engineering. She's awesome.
I'd like to see them go back to how it was years ago- 7 woman team, 6 compete and 5 score. I loved that old system and feel like it really kept the playing field more even.
@@saragrant9749 this is an unpopular opinion, but i actually like this year's rules. I think it would work well once everyone got adjusted and used to the new system. The US can send 6 girls to Tokyo to compete... more than the past couple cycles. but, with a 4-person team final, it stays interesting, allowing smaller countries to compete. it also gets rid of the issue in countries like the us, where one of the best in the world on an event might not even get to go. through qualifying individually, gymnasts like jade can secure a spot, and the event finals stay interesting. i like the 7, 6, 5 as well but honestly the US would just dominate every time.
That all stopped with the commercialization of amateur sports, which Avery Brundage warned against. "Athlete A" stated that this setup made the conditions right for the abuse of athletes. "Money and medals over athletes".
The gymnastics trials process is not the same as track and field or swimming. They don't just take the top five gymnasts. They used to do it that way in the past and they kept losing. The Karoli's changed it. Every gymnast signs a contract with USA Gymnastics about the selection committee process. They all know well in advance that the only guaranteed a spot is winning trials. The selection committee looks at all of the performances throughout the year and evaluates the gymnasts based on those as well. They know that winning a gold medal is about creating a team that's going to maximize the scores on each apparatus. When you only have 5 gymnasts, you have to be strategic. Especially when you compare the U.S. to other nations. If you follow gymnastics closely, then you know how the U.S. team will be crafted, so it is very easy to know who is most likely to be selected for the team. They talk about who is going for months in advance. There are no surprises really.
i honestly feel so bad for the gymnast who didn't make it, they trained their whole lives for this and when they heard they didn't make the team I can't even imagine how it feels for them. Even in kyla ross's behind the routine she said that the gymnasts were more worried for the one's who didn't make the team than the one's who did.
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TO EVERYONE THAT IS WATCHING THIS VIDEO AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE TWITTER DRAMA:
please do not hate on gabby. her win here was 100% deserved, as was her Olympic AA win as well.
i understand that jordyn and aly were just teenagers then, but that still does not make their alleged comments okay/not bad.
let's just all be peaceful, supportive, and uplifting gymnastics fans :)
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Following-what is the twitter tea??
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Can someone tell me what happened? I checked twitter but I don’t see anything
@@likacl at around 1:14:56 people were saying that they could hear aly and jordyn were saying "Gabby? An olympian?" and then right after aly makes that gagging reaction. not 100% sure, but it does look convincing if i'm being honest :(
Knowing what they were all going through during this time gives a whole other layer of insight of how strong these girls were.
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elizabeth price competed NCAA at stanford and is now completing a masters at harvard! get it, sis!
Thanks for this comment! I was wondering what happened to her. She was so amazing here!
So she excels both in the gym and the classroom. :)
@TurboCMinusMinus I honestly have know idea but considering she was an alternate that’s probably a fair guess. From what I understand, she and her coaches were only ever aspiring to the alternate position anyways and were perfectly happy/ didn’t feel they got a raw deal.
I think Elizabeth Price got a raw deal. She came in 4th for Pete's sake! It should have been her as the 4th spot and Maroney as an alternate. Now granted I was lucky enough to watch her career at Stanford and she was a wonderful collegiate gymnast but still...this was heart breaking for me when it happened then and it still does when I watch again.
I'm glad Price at least got Alternate and she and Strauss's were happy. It wasn't a repeat of 1992.
My heart broke for Rebecca. She was so talented and had so much more to accomplish in the sport but her body just gave out. She was amazing and it’s so sad to think about how much she could’ve accomplished if she had a coach who actually put her health first and didn’t push her so much
if shed had a decent coach that cared about their safety and wellbeing and didn't break both her and kaitlyn ohashi she wouldve made it so far
I feel like if you have a weird quirk in your body like Rebecca does - with the incredibly knocked knees, you need special coaching and PT to strengthen the right muscles to keep your legs safe and strong. I feel like it's almost impossible for someone with that issue to be able to have any type of long career as a gymnast, it's so taxing on your body.
Jody Hill I agree. It’s a bit of a coincidence how the only gymnast who Valeri coached who got an Olympic medal was Nastia who was his daughter!!!
Kira Vega I agree. Even though she thought knees has healed, her body was still to weak to do gymnastics even though she was doing to events which would put less pressure on her knees.
@@ellelou6517 his daughter! Aha
Seeing all the love for Nastia after her final routine nearly brought a tear to my eye. What a great athlete
Same here. I felt so horrible for her when she fell. It looked crazy painful and she looked like she tweaked her neck. I just cringed because I could feel her pain through the screen. OUCH! 😫😫😫
Poor Nastia - you can see she feels like crying.
I wish she made the team i think she wdve rocked all 4 she just needed more practice for trials. So great on beam!
I can't imagine falling and then have the courage to continued . This girls are very strong
When she put her foot up after she fell! She knew she wanted to cry
@Nunovurbznzsodontask lmfao right but she disrespected Gabby so much over Maggie and was kinda upset she made her 2nd Olympics and she didnt
@@apollopraetorius216 Right but Gabby got seventh at Olympic trials in 2016 all around and was only used on uneven bars in rio and had lower scores then Kocian. Who was taken as a bar specialist. They could’ve taken Makayla Skinner, Reagan Smith, or Maggie Nichols as all around gymnast instead of Gabby Douglas. It could’ve been Simone, Aly, and Laurie in the qualifying trying to make the all around and then one of the girls I just mentioned above could’ve Done vault, beam, and floor in qualifying. There was absolutely no need for Gabby Douglas to be on the Olympic team other than to have two Olympians come back and they really didn’t need that either because they already had Aly who really earned her spot. Nastia had every right to be irritated about the fact that they chose Gabby over Maggie. I don’t think Gabby or Maggie should’ve been there I think it should’ve been Makayla Skinner because of her placement in the all around at trials but either way any of the three girls that placed higher than Gabby would’ve been better choices.
I thought it was really messed up how much they took away from Gabby's win. I really hate these commentators
That's why they got theirs when she didn't make the all around, she never would've beaten Komova anyway.
I AGREE Totally!!! Gabby Accomplishments Will Never Be Squashed As Those Prejudicial commentators Tried to make it out... #GabbyBeatThemALL😗❤💖💗💖💗💞
She simply wasn't ready. Period.
I know! She earned it fair and square, and yes I feel bad for Jordyn bc the 2 per country rule sucks, but they really should’ve given gabby the credit she deserved.
@@marshajulessa2995 she wasn’t ready? when she simply qualified first and won the AA ? you make zero sense. period.
The fact that Nastia got back up on those bars, after falling and holding back tears, shows how much of an amazing athlete she is. She didn’t give up and finished that routine strong. That takes a lot of mental strength
Maybe you’re right. But honestly I think she just did what was expected of her in that circumstance.
She is so strong did both days of competition and tried her best
For me she was unmotivated and listless. She seemed like she doesn't matter
Elizabeth Price had the meet of her life! So much potential
She had a great college gymnastic career.
@Davy Lau for which program??
Elizabeth Price a.k.a Ebee is hot! #Wifegoals
Elisabeth price s coach though ❤️ he's just a sweet man who's very proud of her
Tshimangadzo Mavhungu wonderful to see! Like a proud Papa!
He’s like a proud father seeing his daughter shine. Elizabeth is so awesome 😊😍😍😘🌹❤️💍
I know, so different than so many other coaches. I wish Elizabeth would’ve been selected, it would’ve shown that compassionate coaches can build amazing athletes and take them to the Olympics.
You should watch the documentary Searching for the perfect parkettes. The coaching team are actually really harsh and there aren’t many hugs.
@@deedee1605 Thank God for your comment lol. I read the first 3 replies to this and it was looking like nobody was going to acknowledge the well known truth of the matter 😳
Gabby is the first confirmed Olympian on the USA WAG team in 2012 and the first words out of Tim’s mouth are about Jordyn 😒
Prob cus she had just won the world championship
Exactly! 2012 was Jordan Jordan Jordan nothing for Gabby the clip is also in here where Jordan whispers to Aly “Gabby an Olympian?!” and Aly stuck her tongue out as if a being sick face. The treatment Gabby got from those two was shocking as well!!
@@Lea-cp8gi where?
Time stamp
@@leonieee21 I believe someone has done that further up the comment thread I’d have to go through the video again to get it
If nastia would have trained even 6 months earlier she probably would have gotten a spot. She simply wasen't ready yet
That's exactly what I was thinking. She came back to late to even get a spot. I've always thought if she came back even a few months earlier, she would have a much better chance at getting a spot. She just wasnt in good enough shape.
She could have been very useful on bars. It sucks that they only take five. It sucks even more that she clearly wasn’t in her top shape.
Kristin C she would’ve been useful on beam as well because she cane 2nd aa
@Nunovurbznzsodontask did you go to the Olympic trials as well? Do you know her personally to say that she is cocky? She has achieved more than you will ever achieve :*
The 2012 London UB Final could not be more exciting if Nastia was back in the mix! I always wanna see Nastia competing against Aliya and He Kexin (again)
Thank you so much for uploading this. Watching this almost 7 years later, I have a soft spot for this particular team. The first team to win gold since the 1996 Olympic team in Atlanta, they faced a lot of adversity. Many of these gymnasts were injured while competing at the Olympics, and ALL FIVE were molested by that evil man. I can't imagine the strength and bravery these women--honestly these GIRLS--possessed at this time. It was a privilege to witness their win in London but also to see these teenagers mature and grow into incredible women that are role models in the sport.
I totllay agree with you. Watching the Vault final of London 2012 and seeing that man sit next to the gymnasts made me sick
Periodt, love!
Price's coach is just SO PROUD OF HER 😭💞
The Asian woman USA coach is so precious 🥺 always giving so many hugs and reassurance for the girls
That's Kyla coach. She so sweet
I find it crazy how McKayla makes everything look so graceful but she is a powerhouse as well
Their obsession with Jordan was crazy.
They thought she was a guarantee for the all around.
I’m still surprised she beat Victoria Komova for the world title.
I agree, I really don't see anything special about her. People complain about how Tim constantly brings up Simone but at least you can see why, she's a phenome while wieber is basic.
Back then I was obsessed. Now looking back so many people were overlooked because of the hype around her. So sad.
Jordyn was still more guaranteed than anyone else since she was the world champ at the time. It's easy to say now since we know she didn't even make AA final. Jordyn was still very strong on vault, beam and floor during the Olympics. She could have medaled in all of them including AA with her level of difficulties.
Yeah they were all the ads were about her and I am pretty sure all that pressure got to her at the Olympics
Kristin C it was weird. Like they were paid to support her.
Kyla is such a beautiful and calm gymnast. Makayla is so powerful and she has the lines as well. Aly is just so calm and sure of herself. You can tell that Jordyn is so driven by the sport. Sure Gabby has struggled with constancy in the past but she has really proven herself at these trials. The 2012 Olympic team was so incredibly talented.
Gabby had so much natural talent. When she was on, look out. She was called the a squirrel because she flew so high on the bars.
When the team came out they were all bawling..& then here comes Miss Ross @ the end & she was so excited she was hopping out....that was adorable😍
also just wanna say that the crowd's super loud cheers for every single routine get me everytime. what a meet.
great meet, thanks for uploading and sharing!
I think whoever did the audio for NBC should’ve made the commentators louder than the crowd bc they’re hard to hear at times.
Can you post the 2016 trials? Please amd thank u
This is my favorite team. I was also 16 in 2012 and just felt so connected to these girls as if they were my friends. I wish they hadn’t had to endure so many horrible things during this time. They are so brave and truly such wonderful role models. McKayla is one of my favorite gymnasts of all time and I miss watching her compete but I am so glad that she stepped away to take care of herself.
When they are showing the videos for when they are younger they legit show the team
Yeah.... So sketchy I feel like they'd already picked
@@lexiw20 because it already is picked before trials. Something crazy has to happen
I remember watching this live and really appreciating the response that Nastia received from this crowd. They knew what that fall meant, and they did their best to lift her up and show some heavy appreciation for her in what must have been a difficult moment. At least she got a good send-off.
It seems to me like from the preview they already knew who was gonna make the team. LOL
It's pretty much decided before trials. They look at everyone's body of work. One competition isn't going to change their minds.
It pretty much is decided. Unless someone has a complete meltdown. For example, if Kyla would've completely bombed this, she probably wouldn't have made the team. For Jordyn, Gabby, Ally, and McKayla, it was pretty much already set in stone.
yes, the choices were penciled in but this competition was important to solidify those decisions. The one thing that they did was look at the athletes' whole body of work - competitions, practices, participation, etc. Much better than depending on the outcome of one competition and also helped ensure more consistent performance rather than just having a 'good night'
yeah but the top two are guaranteed. so if someone comes out of the blue and gets second place, she's automatically in@@extra_ice_girl
@@exohexilu Only the top gymnast is guaranteed a spot
Al's favorite question: "Was that a stick?"
I know he has no gymnastics experience, but for Pete's Sake--he's been covering the sport for like, 20 years. You'd think he'd learn the basics!
Haha, that made me lol
99miyah i think when he asks he knows the answer but it is to make the people who are watching who maybe don't know much about gymnastics learn what it's about :)
@@carlacarlacarla- yeah, you're probably right haha. He just sounds so goofy!
You sound more goofy for being clueless
@@tekkenfan01 what is that supposed to mean
Jesus Bross' bar routine killed me! 😢 even Marta was upset.
What’s truly sad is, by the beginning of 2011 I had a strong feeling she’d be no more than an alternate to the Olympic team. She had become super inconsistent… and that doesn’t make you team material unfortunately. The injury made it a lock.
Aly hugging Nastia after that beam tho.... 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🤯🤯🤯
Gave me the feels !!! They have so much respect for each other ❤️
I was upset elizabeth price didn't make the team, but now that I'm watching this years later, it makes sense. The formula for the U.S. team selection is usually:
The top 3 all-around girls from trials
+1 pretty good AA person who’s best event(s) are where the team needs more points
+1 event specialist (usually for the event that the team is weakest)
Price unfortunately wasn’t any of those. She's a good AA choice and great at vault, but
they can only send 2 girls to AA finals and she was not even close to top 2 (not super close to 3rd place either). She didn't place top 3 in any event at trials except vault, but if they want a vault specialist, they're going to pick the world champion (mckayla). For the team event, 4 girls have to do each event and 3 of those scores count. The last girl they choose is someone who is pretty good at all the events (if needed) but is great at the event where the team is the weakest: bars (aly and mckayla both suck at bars, so they need a 3rd girl who's good at bars). Kyla WON bars (tied w/ gabby) AND got 3rd on beam AND she was only .1 points behind price overall. And even if price got .5 points higher on beam (I personally think she was underscored), she'd tie for 3rd on beam w/ Kyla, so it still makes sense to take Kyla.
tbh it would make more sense to replace mckayla (not kyla) with price because price is a great vaulter. They'd still want kyla for bars, even if she was just a specialist. But mckayla was literally the best vaulter in the world so…they weren’t going to leave her.
aries4alexs great analysis and explanation! Thanks for taking the time to explain this. I didn’t understand why they didn’t put her on the team.
@Serenas Temper oh right, I'm thinking of team qualifications (which is 4-4-3), but you're right, finals is 4-3-3. And I do get where you're coming from for "fairness" but I feel like most elite girls work equally hard, so strategically I think it makes more sense to "round out" the team. I agree that you don't always need a specialist, but sometimes I think you really do. Especially if the top 5 are all good at the same things (which was the issue in 2016), because you can only send 3 per event so you can't even use the 4th and 5th people for their strengths (because they're 4th and 5th, so why wouldn't you use the top 3). At 2016 trials, Ragan was 5th overall and got 2nd on beam but if she made the team I don't even know what she'd compete because even though she did well at trials, simone, aly, and laurie are arguably better beam workers (simone just fucked up at trials). And if you're not sending ragan for beam, why send her at all? Her only other good event is floor but all 4 other girls were better than her. They highkey needed a bars specialist in 2016, if they had taken top 5 AA (simone, laurie, aly, mykayla, ragan), they just don't have 3 good bar workers. It would've been simone, laurie, and then...I guess ragan?? who was bad at bars (10th at trials), but is technically better than aly and mykayla because they're horrible. Without a specialist, they would've at least needed someone like gabby (which gives the the same dilemma of taking someone who isn't top 5 in AA).
In 2012 they def could've left maroney, she wasn't THAT important to the team score and they could've used price for vault instead, but price would probably just do vault, which would kinda make her a specialist anyway. It'll be interesting with the new 2020 rules, because you could just send someone like maroney as an individual athlete and she could just do vault.
Price was the perfect alternate for all the reasons you stated. If McKayla went down before London (and she almost did), Price would have been her replacement. I think she would have replaced Raisman/Wieber as well. If Ross went down, Li (if she hadn't injured herself) would have been her replacement. I think Finnegan would have replaced if two people went down. Before also forget that the U.S. seriously needed an uneven bars worker as that was their weakness. Russia had an advantage there and there was still trauma from 2008 where the Chinese practically won on paper due to their D-score advantage thanks to bars. This wasn't 2016 and the U.S. gold wasn't a foregone conclusion.
I think Price would´ve been the better choice for alternate indeed but there's another reason why they took Mckyla instead of her and that's the fact that she was a certain medal for USA on vault. IMO that's the same reason they took Gabby in 2016, she was on medal contention for bars (not that she was a bad all-arounder in 2016 but Simone, Laurie, and Aly were better. I do think they could've gone 1, 2, 3, and 4 in the AA easy if it was possible for all of them to compete. I think even Maddison could've made top 10 AA. That team was insane).
Why wasn't Anna Li chosen instead of Kyla? Her bars is more difficult
All the girls were good. The press had already decided that Jordyn Weber was the clear AA champion. She had all those commercials...she was already making a lot of money. But we know how this turns out. I’m just happy it’s turned out well for Kyla Ross, Gabby Douglass, and Alexandria Raisman. I’m also happy that Jordyn Weber is doing so well as a coach. She is truly blessed. McKayla M. won at the Olympics and was so great. She was truly an asset to USA. E. price was great also at this event. She had a great gymnastic career at Stanford. Choices were made and the team was chosen. I like the way Maggie Nichols dealt with not making the next Olympic team. She is so great at Oklahoma. Maggie is such an asset. The moral of the story is ...you just have to roll with the punches. Deal with whatever life gives you and make the best of it. A door may close but a window will open. Blessings and good fortune to all.
Thanks for your comment :)
You are talented at somehow spelling everyone’s name wrong lmao
Seolin Jung I’m crying 😂
I believe that if Jordyn hadn't been dealing with an injury at the Olympics she probably would have competed better, but you can only perform through the pain so much before it hinders your performance somewhere. Plus we all know that in 2012 that Nassar was still the team doctor which means that he was treating her most likely daily. That's alot for the psyche to deal with, I'm amazed she was able to do as well as she did with all that going on. Plus the mental and physical abuse we can assume she received from Geddert (I don't know if Jordyn ever came out to say how he treated her.)
Awesome reply
I just want to give rebecca bross a hug :(
CHOW!!!! WE LOVE CHOW!
He seems like a wonderful coach..not just good at coaching but a good person too. Im sure hes hard but dont serm like hed be an ass or disrespectful..someone i can trust sending my kid to
Aneesa Mack his gloves creep me out for some reason. Also he was so abusive and broke Ivana Hong.
@@Elong. You're thinking of Al Fong of GAGE.
hejiupengyou yeah Fong was also the coach of the girl who ended up dying of anorexia, Christy Henrich. He had many issues with students alleging abusive coachings, but as far as I've heard, none of Chow's gymnasts have ever claimed any such thing about him. He's generally loved by his gymnasts. Interestingly, his training schedule actually involves significantly less training time than many other coaches. Average at this level is 40-45 hours per week, Chow's students train more like 25. But I guess it's worked for them, he's got two gold medalists. Different strokes...
Nastia’s final cheer from the crowd though...my heart
It's clear the commentators weren't too crazy about gabby winning here, they kept saying she won but .... well we all know what happened in London.
Victoria Komova.
Well they expected Jordyn will be the winner tbh
I fell like gabby is constantly seen as good enough to medal but not win and here and at the Olympics she proved that she’s a winner. Also in 2015 she basic won worlds by getting second to Simone making a successful comeback.
Marsha Julessa it also seems kinda like the other girls weren’t happy about her winning. Maybe it’s a jealousy thing, because she’s a phenomenal athlete.
I think they didn't believe she had the potential to win AA. They thought she was definitely good for the team event since she does all 4 events, but that she wouldn't have really placed. We all see how that turned out.
Watching all the throwback Olympics just hits different when you know what happened to them this whole time. I was always tearing up when they won in the Olympics because I looked up to them and it was just jaw dropping. But now seeing it again, it’s tears of being happy for them and being sad for them that they were all being abused and nobody stopped it. Nobody helped them. But they are survivors and heroes. All of them. Even the ones who didn’t make it to the Olympics. They are all heroes.💗
Nastia - Beautiful
Mykayla - Her twisting is out of this world. even on the floor, she gets so much air time that her twisting is like.. slow. it's unbelieveable.
You know what I absolutely love. Is how even with a fall the audience cheered and cheered
It's clear that Valeri does not have his gymnasts best interests at heart....besides Nastia, of course. Granted, that's his daughter and he absolutely should. After seeing this with Bross and hearing the stories from Mattie Larson during the Nassar trial and Katelyn Ohashi in a variety of interviews, I just wish he did the same for the rest of his athletes.
Gabby peaked at the right time. Jordyn always performs like she is comfortably ahead which is never the case lol
“Its nasty but it’s functional”
Why tf do you care how her scar looks? She got surgery, recovered, and is in the Olympic trials. Leave the poor girl alone.
i really do miss mckayla maroney :( beautiful gymnast. i hope she's doing alright.
Gabby was on fire , she had a good time of herself
😔😢 Rebecca.. luv u sweetie, u did ur best
I'm glad that this video is still on TH-cam. I'm still trying to find the full floor event final from Rio 2016. All the gymnasts are amazing human beings.
Nastia showed what a class act she is in that interview
Jordyn is the most overrated gymnast. And Nastia should’ve come back sooner. She was fame hungry
Thank you for posting this. I’ve been looking for this video for a week now. 😍
I've been waiting for this for years now
Props to all those women that year. Jordyn, Aly, Kyla, McKayla and Gabby all deserved their spot on the team. My heart breaks for Rebecca every time I see that bar routine. And the way Valeri treated her after that, he left her on her own not even comforting her for a second even though she was visibly upset! The other gymnasts present that night such as Elizabeth Price went on to have a great collegiate gymnastics career!
Watching Rebecca Bross- she never seemed happy…. Always depressed I’m not this but all of her meets. She was an incredible gymnast and I hope she finds peace in all of her work
Watching this in April 2020 & loving it, bc I can’t get enough of gymnastics content, & it’s just so perfect to pass the time in this “shelter-in-place” quarantine time due to the Coronavirus.
i’ve been binging gymnastics videos too :) so entertaining
Anyone else watching this in 2020 wondering how different the team would have been if Tom was selecting? Maybe Elizabeth Price would have been on the team 🤷🏽♀️
I wouldve picked elizabeth as an all around, but since she has the amanar and their scores were so close, you could see they only needed for bars and maybe beam, kyla was a better option by a small margin, eventho Price was definitely a better choice for an all around replacement..
Yeah... but the way these girls are performing now, I am not pleased. They are garbage compared to the old gymnasts. If Simone wasn't around, the U.S. would be toast.
Love Law here ... same thought!
Adam Binyamin I honestly think Elizabeth Price should’ve gone instead of McKayla.
@@maia9056 or instead of Kyla
No matter what Nas brought us home Olympic medals! And Golds at that! She's still an USA gymnast icon. No one can take Beijing from her.
Russian icon
And it’s the way she does her performances too with so much grace and elegance!!! She will always captivate me ❤️
@@azieldaly2965stop.
I was really glad to see that Alexandra Raisman made the 2012 Olympic team, when I first watched this. Jordyn Wieber too with her.
Elizabeth price was robbed
Matthew Armbruster she should have replaced gabby. If gabby didn’t get that automatic spot
oh yeah 100% she deserved a place. she was on point the whole comp
@Sacha Bono Disagree. I think an argument could have been made that we didn't really need McKayla Maroney as the other four gymnasts on the team were capable of Amanars as well and with Price, that would have been five. However, Maroney was the best vaulter in the world at this point and she performed one of the most near-perfect Amanars in history at the Olympic games Team Final. Maroney also showed her consistency by being used in team finals for floor as well as vault at 2011 Worlds scoring close to Raisman and Wieber there. Price was the perfect alternate because she was NOT in the top three on beam/bars/floor but could fill in in case one of the gymnasts who were in the top three dropped before the Games except for bars where Anna Li would have been the one to replace. Don't forget that the U.S. desperately needed bars and beam workers to compete against Russia in 2012. It's not like now where the U.S. has been consistently way ahead. Although the U.S. won 2011 Worlds it wasn't a blow out like we're used to know and the Russians there almost had a 1 point advantage on uneven bars. The U.S. also came off a loss at 2010 Worlds and at the 2008 Olympics, the Chinese had already beaten the U.S. for gold ON PAPER because there was such a big deficit on uneven bars for the U.S. Not wanting history to repeat itself, Marta put Ross in because Kyla Ross was needed to cover bars and beam in a 3-up-3-count team final and bridge that gap. Marta lost a lot of big events and the U.S. hadn't won an Olympic team gold since 1996, and she knew she needed Ross there just in case Russia brought it.
I would agree except they only could take 5 gymnasts and there were clearly more than 5 highly qualified gymnasts.
@@treyartemov8974 Are you actually trying to make the case that Gabby Douglas, who won not only Trials but also Olympic All-Around gold, should have been left off the team in favor of the fourth place finisher at Trials? I love Ebee and it sucks that there were only 5 places available on the team, but no way should she have made the team over Gabby.
I loved this Gabby. The happy, fit, unbeatable little Gabby. When she came back in 2015 and 2016, she was a different person. Seemed mad at the world.
She had every reason to be
Kelli Leslie exactly, she came back and still placed second at worlds only to Simone and people still said she was being favored and didn’t deserve it and she also placed 3rd in the Olympics qualifications with subpar performances and people still knock her. She’s a strong woman that keeps proving everyone wrong
Well if she was "mad at the world", shouldn't we have been more concerned for her and what SHE was going through instead of expecting her to put on a fake smile for US? She was the same person, just possibly someone going through something. And we now know one of the things she was going through, unfortunately.
And now we know why.
Don’t you know, women are only supposed to smile and be happy? If she was a man, you wouldn’t think twice about it. Plus, don’t you think it’s OK for her to be angry at the world when she was being molested? Maybe just don’t comment.
I felt so bad for Rebecca on Bars
I still think it’s crazy that the 5 gymnasts that they chose to show the old footage of were the 5 that made the team
other than elizabeth price
almost every single balance beam routine alicia did after the Olympics, they brought up her fall, whether it was mentioning it or showing a clip of it, they always said something about the fall and that was always so ridiculous and unnecessary to me. like yeah we get it, she fell during the team final. millions watched it when it happened, we didn’t need the constant reminders every competition during her comeback and im sure alicia didn’t either.
Lmao she's a trump supporter, let them remind her that she's the reason the team lost. I have no remorse🤣
@@marsbars2889 wait is she really
Everybody likes to say that her fall on the BB is what cost them the gold, but in reality the start value wasn't high enough to begin with. Even a perfect routine wouldn't have been enough to win. So the fall was completely irrelevant, no matter how much they keep harping on it.
@@marsbars2889 You represent everything that's wrong with the left. Rage, hate, bitterness, and a complete inability to forgive anyone for the unconscionable sin of disagreeing with you. One of the most important character traits in a decent human being is a well-developed sense of empathy, and your comment makes it clear that you don't have any. Everyone is fighting a personal battle, and if you can't show some compassion for someone else then you can't expect them to show you any either.
@@brandonnicholson2633 "Rage,hate,bitterness",sounds more like Trump supporters.
i miss mckayla maroney :(
what is she up to these days?
@@tessajanemtl probably recovering from all the sexual abuse trauma she had. her teammates said she was abused the worst by that terrible criminal "doctor"
@@danceballetacro when did they say that?
same!! she’s been gone from social media too because of what happened with larry and people bullied her :(
@@danceballetacro where did you hear her "teammates" ssid that? I've read hundreds and hundreds of interviews, depositions and transcripts and never saw anything close to that said. Not saying it isn't true. I just don't think it was said
Literally can't watch the Nastia moment without crying (happy tears)
Can we just say that the three alternates because some of the best NCAA gymnasts (or already were) of all time?
I remember watching this competition so well. It was an emotional roller coaster. Nastia's end was sad but at least she already had the top prize in the sport. Rebecca never made it to an Olympics and it was heartbreaking to watch that bar routine. She had some really bad luck in her career but she was a great gymnast...I hope she is doing well these days.
Jordon Jordon Jordon...the worst commentary I’ve ever heard. Such disrespect to Gabby and all the other athletes. Gabby smashed it out the park at the Olympics! I almost turned it off!! It’s not the Jordon show!
THE SAME IS HAPPENING NOWADAYS BUT WIRH SIMONE BILES. i know she is great but comparing her to everyone in the show is like insane
To be fair Simone is much more dominant in every way than Jordyn or any other athlete for that matter. But yeah, we need to spend more time on other athletes.
Owen, thank you for your service!
I know that there is a lot of criticism about everything that happened after, but the look in Martha’s eye after Rebecas uneven bars tells me that she cared. She was tough because she wanted to win, but her tears still say - “I’m sorry that happened to you” idk.. just my opinion from her reaction
Jose Zuniga totally agree.
Jose Zuniga I think the hard thing about watching Bross is know how hard of a worker she was and how talented. Her body just straight up gave up on her. That’s difficult to watch.
I think the karolyis are a product of their time. They didnt know any other way
They cared, but not enough to put a stop to sexual abuse they 100% knew about. They knew that if they did anything about it, their empire would be destroyed (as it had been since).
nah Martha seemed awful, let's not pretend on look means she cared because her actions clearly indicate she didn't.
1:15 Now I see what Gabby was experiencing when she say she was being bullied by the other girls on the team. Everybody thought Jordan was going to win that first spot
kimberly cone well Jordan was winning everything leading up to the Olympics. Gabby persevered when it counted though.
And gabby went on to win it all. :) she’s an amazing gymnast and earned her spot!!!
Aly was the mean queen of all them doing those faces because Gabby get the spot
What about that showed any bullying? She stuck a great vault. Nothing else happened there.
@@JennaLeigh nobody came to congratulate her like they normally do. It's what you don't see on that scene
Truth is Nastia was proving to take the high road by getting back up and finishing her bars routine. This by far is what makes her world class in my honest opinion.
anyone else would've got up and finished also. when have you ever seen a gymnast fall and not continue? never. we are always taught to finish our routines no matter what.
@@bellab1142 yeah hut that was the only dismount nastia did during her comeback, her body couldn’t handle it but I think the adrenaline kicked in
Kyla’s Phantom of the Opera music on floor made me want to one too, and here I am now doing it! We even went to see the musical 💕 And on March 10, I’m going to see UCLA’s meet against Stanford! What present day has come to!
Aly actually makes the beam look easy. She’s so strong and steady. So focused.
the standing ovation for Nastia :')
Nastia waving to the public made me cry my eyes out 😩😭
i'm surprised they didn't show 15.000 that mckayla got on beam. They picked the right team in my opinion.
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Agnes A i used to train at her gym that her father owns, I used to see her every day
@@susanjones6409 So does my sister!
She should have been on the team over Jordyn Weiner. Makayla Maroneys average on vault was about a 16, Alys was a 15.85. Ana would have helped the team a lot more
mckayla‘s vault is just crazy good
It’s exquisite!!! Still to this day it’s breathtaking
at 1:28:47 you can see Jordyn hug Chris Brooks, who 8 years later they are now dating, coach together at Arkansas, and own a dog together
They’re a great couple too! Chris and Jordyn rocks!😁🤘🏾❤️
I just love Alicia Sacramone so damn much. Her face after vaulting for the last time...
I agree! Love Alicia and she had the meet of her life that day. She probably would’ve gone to London if mckayla hadn’t recovered. She’d have a chance to get a 2012 vault medal
I thought Chellsie was injured at VISAs. I hope she makes it at least to Worlds next year if not the Olympics!!!!! And its cool the story between Tom and Chellsie.
@@2134knees From what I've been able to pick up, she was injured at 2011 Visas. Then when she rehabbed, she came back to 2012 classic. She had four routines ready to go, and Martha saw them all, but chose to only compete beam to be safe with the injury. She fell, and petitioned to go to nationals since her score wasn't high enough. Martha declined her petition. No Nationals, no trials. Hence RAGE AT MARTHA
I had forgotten how great Maroney was on floor.
Nastia is such a beast... Continues to compete after that fall that injured her neck and gave her a concussion ❤❤
These gymnasts are phenomenal.
Nastia is so beautiful to watch even when she falls she flicks her toe up to a point!!! She’s the most graceful gymnast I’ve ever seen and I can’t take my eyes off her 😍!!! She definitely didn’t give herself enough time to prepare for these competitions. At least she had the heart to try , what a champion 👏🏼👑
my favorite olympic team of all time and in my mind a perfect team ❤
Toxic Helmi mine is the #Magnificent 7 at the 1996 Atlanta Game ❤️
8 years later and I still think Martha did Ebee Price dirty by not putting her on the team and only making her an alternate...
Luikin keeps his gymnasts injured! Look at Konner McClain, she just left Luikin because she was always injured. She said she left to get healthy. And it's sad with Gabby's comeback for 2024 she's training in his gym! Girl run and run fast!!!
Now Gabby's ankle is injured
I feel like there are microphones in the beam 😂
Ikr ! I’m kinda here for it bc all the sounds it makes during a routine are so satisfying
There is, and on the bars and vault too
I loved the way the audeince cheered her up ..love anerica! ( and americans!)
Nastia's beam reminds me of watching Nadia's beam in the 1976 Olympics - they both were pure artistry, which beam doesn't focus on anymore.
In my opinion,Nastia wasn’t performing like someone who wanted to go London. She looked tired,exhausted and like her love for the sport just wasn’t there the way it was in 2008. I think there was a tremendous amount of pressure from her dad to come back and compete. Because she didn’t look like she wanted it at all.
I think Marta really wanted that bar routine back, she just wasn’t ready. Like she said she wanted to contribute if they needed it
I feel like Bross would have stories to tell about these trials. She has clearly JUST had intense surgery on her knee, they pushed these very young bodies through so much trauma and pain - I just hope none of them have long term effects of competing on these injuries. They deserved better.
Ok whatever on Maroney’s UB mistake, but that Geinger was SO HIGH. I’ve never seen it that far up from the bar before
Right..i had to rewatch after ur comment and she deffinitely flies higher than most
Sylvia Garcia Maroney has got to be one of the more underrated American gymnasts, especially since she went to the Olympics. It’s like, she’s only known for vault, but she really could have been an AA without 2 per country rule. Vault isn’t even her favorite event
uh gabbys is higher lol
CrAzY Top 10s !!! Skrt Gabby has never competed a Geinger. Not to my knowledge at least
her bars were so underrated. she had amazing form and lines and i would’ve loved to see her as an aa gymnast
33:37 this is how you are NOT supposed to chew gum
Mihai Brestyan (idk spelling) seems like such a great coach. You can tell he loves both his girls here (Alicia & Aly) equally.
Mihai and Chow were such great coaches, It seemed like they really treated their athletes well. I'm sad they're not in the US anymore. China and Australia are lucky to have them!
Mihai is back in the US now. I hope USAG (Tom or,whomever is in charge) gives this awesome man and coach what he deserves. He said he didn't know about Aly's abuse at Nassars hands.
Valeri making Rebecca Bross stop her bar routine so she didn’t kill herself was a peak dad move.
Watching this again in May 2020. Elizabeth Price should have been on that team. Teams need to go back to 6. I wish the International Gymnastics Powers That Be would stop trying to stifle the sport and let it grow.
Watching in June 2020
Watching July 2020 because I miss the Olympics and can't wait for next year. I really wish Price had been given the opportunity to go to the Olympics, as well. She was AMAZING during the trials. I hear she is at Harvard completing her Master's in Engineering. She's awesome.
I'd like to see them go back to how it was years ago- 7 woman team, 6 compete and 5 score. I loved that old system and feel like it really kept the playing field more even.
@@saragrant9749 this is an unpopular opinion, but i actually like this year's rules. I think it would work well once everyone got adjusted and used to the new system. The US can send 6 girls to Tokyo to compete... more than the past couple cycles. but, with a 4-person team final, it stays interesting, allowing smaller countries to compete. it also gets rid of the issue in countries like the us, where one of the best in the world on an event might not even get to go. through qualifying individually, gymnasts like jade can secure a spot, and the event finals stay interesting. i like the 7, 6, 5 as well but honestly the US would just dominate every time.
That all stopped with the commercialization of amateur sports, which Avery Brundage warned against. "Athlete A" stated that this setup made the conditions right for the abuse of athletes. "Money and medals over athletes".
McKayla’s vault at 1:05:42 was incredible. 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩The height and form.
McKayla is so awesome! 😍😘
Watching this makes me remember how sad I was that Elizabeth Price didn't make the team.
Me too. Elizabeth Price a.k.a Ebee is hot! #Wifegoals
At the end... Douglas was the first qualifier and all around Olympic champion! Those commentators were so biased with Jordyn. Ridiculous.
It breaks my heart to watch this, bc everyone, even Nastia knew, that this was goodbye.
Yes 😞
I just feel like nobody wanted Gabby to succeed which is disgusting and just shows that USA gymnastics needs to change
Anyone notice how they only focused on the fierce five.. like they had their decision made up before the meet began
The gymnastics trials process is not the same as track and field or swimming. They don't just take the top five gymnasts. They used to do it that way in the past and they kept losing. The Karoli's changed it. Every gymnast signs a contract with USA Gymnastics about the selection committee process. They all know well in advance that the only guaranteed a spot is winning trials.
The selection committee looks at all of the performances throughout the year and evaluates the gymnasts based on those as well. They know that winning a gold medal is about creating a team that's going to maximize the scores on each apparatus. When you only have 5 gymnasts, you have to be strategic. Especially when you compare the U.S. to other nations.
If you follow gymnastics closely, then you know how the U.S. team will be crafted, so it is very easy to know who is most likely to be selected for the team. They talk about who is going for months in advance. There are no surprises really.
I am shocked that the commentators didn't give Mckayla a break. It's like she just came back from a injury.
i honestly feel so bad for the gymnast who didn't make it, they trained their whole lives for this and when they heard they didn't make the team I can't even imagine how it feels for them. Even in kyla ross's behind the routine she said that the gymnasts were more worried for the one's who didn't make the team than the one's who did.