I see many ui players with jiren, beerus, 21, broly and more, but I never see a ui, Base Goku player. I mean you get to use his stuff more with b assist, get pretty good mix with a, and maybe if they don't like both they can use c assist. Plus the ui coverage of a assist so then they can't jump over your Base Goku grab. WHY IS NOBODY USING THIS
@@xthelegionargamingx6030 because in some cases you're prob not trying to read parry but open your opponent up instead. I honestly cant think of a game where a counter counters grabs it's kinda unorthodox. then again it is an arcsys game where one character has a full screen invincible dp that's also a low
0:36 "you can't do anything but bait it. It is so stupid" What is the difference to a DP? The mechanic that is in fighting games since... ever and you only can bait?
dps are diffrent from a parry that is very active. in alot of fighting games a dp can be countered simply by just doing a crossup attack at the right time on someones wakeup.
Waited for jiren buffs since the start of season three as a main then we get these buffs 😭 I mean they're good but it feels like arc sys didn't even know jiren's fundamental flaws and just buffed certain things to make him braindead.
@@wes_magz9164 Yeah, that was one of his worst moves and it attributed to one if his biggest flaws and it was only reduced by two frames. I dont think it should be 19 frames, but anything above 24 is way too slow for a grab that takes up a button.
@@DeepBoice nah it's his normal dude he doesn't even have a standard heavy , imo it should be minimum 19-20 frames the fact that it's 26 is embarrasing as a jiren main. plus he doesn't have a low 2L to open people us, just has mainly staggers. If broly grab is 24 and has armor the least they could do is make jiren faster than a special move smh, I would like it to be a 17 frame grab like 18
Hook btw for 100% accuracy on piccolo throw after hell zone midscreen just super dash as soon as u do hell zone then throw same thing as just jumping and throwing but you wont ever miss the DR like u did once this week. Just a small tip
at the range he was it it would have dropped if he did that. by the time he recovered from the super dash (because you cant just super dash then immedialty dr you have to super dash and then dr after the sd animation ends pr else you'll just get a jab) the hellzones would have dissapeared and wouldnt be able to get the dr
My man even the day UI goku came out i played him a shit ton,but now? Do people not get bored of the same exact shit? Do that much people really value more mf keeping that damn rank up than actually having fun in the game? Un fucking believable
Hold on, I've been playing jiren, since day one, so now jirens since the counter buffs all they do is spam because that's the only thing they know now with the last patch. I refuse to accept that he's on the same level as vegito, c'mon.
Did hook really say jiren Is a scrubby character (a character without even a standard H and a 26 frame slow ass grab, no 2L or mix, and is basically a neutral focus and defensive character ) and yet uses SSJ broly and piccolo LOL ok man...
Well it’s true that he does need to rely on neutral but if he can counter one singular frame of a beam he seems a bit scrubby don’t ya think? I also know that Jiren doesn’t have mix but he does have super good stagger for the “wait until the opponent does something” character type. Also also check out MoldyBagel’s video on Jiren’s counter to see how it’s so much different than Piccolos.
@@swingingflinging683 yah I know it's different than piccolo, but how does a 1 frame counter make a character scrubby, the move has so many flaws still it's so easily baitaable and pull combo punishable if anything UI wake up is a lot more scrubby , piccolo has a lot more scrubbier stuff like his plus 4 instant air shoulder bash which is easy to do, broly is just eveyrthijg scrubby , the guy has 24 frame armor grab and full armor full screen shoulder tackle that can lead to instant 70% in sparking with level 3 lol and safe on block lol
Jiren also doesn't have a beam a ki blast that beats ki blast. But this is coming from a broly player best zoner in the game and can hit you almost full screen with a jab
@@emmanuelstrickland9829 yah lol sorry man broly is wayy more scrubbier than jiren, nothing agaisnt you as a player though , you could be really good for all I know but broly is just stupid now lol
0:33 Not if your Ultra Ignorance cuz he can go into 236/214S or 214H after hitting assuming you read he does it cuz if you mash the last button you pressed will come out its really dumb same for Janemba Teleport and pre-patch Base Vegeta 236H anything that puts you into the air like UI Beam or a frame 4 invul move will beat it as well as a move thats just too fast for Jiren to track like UI 236M or SSJ1 Vegeta 236H (UP CLOSE)
@@pancakes7483 I'm not saying every other charecter gets a pass, I was just comparing one charecter that some people turn their brain off for and another charecter that also sometimes turn their brain off for. Your right about jiren though. Most of his moveset is counters but I'm specifically referring to jirens who only mash counter and not much else. The charecter, while a wall can do more then spam counters
As a Jiren player, I think it's kiiinda dumb it counters GRABS. That part is a little too much. But if it had to be on a character, Jiren fits the most given his whole schtick in the anime and manga
Been saying Noah D was trash spamming counters during your opponents oki doesn’t make you good him and axeice down tech mashing full screen rekkas ass are the worst
@@tsarpeteri8578 you know it’s possible to play games without mashing and trying to abuse certain moves? Especially if it keeps getting you punished lmao
@@blueflamephoenix Reflecting works as well. I mean I don’t spam counter. But if I’m tired of dealing with broly ki blasts, piccolo orb assist, and other things I’m using it. People got me messed up if they think I’m gonna hold a broly grab 😂
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Love the rage quit at the end, typical UI. But if he won bet stamps would fly.
When you think your unbeatable because you pick a character that even 5 year olds can play and you still lose
I see many ui players with jiren, beerus, 21, broly and more, but I never see a ui, Base Goku player. I mean you get to use his stuff more with b assist, get pretty good mix with a, and maybe if they don't like both they can use c assist. Plus the ui coverage of a assist so then they can't jump over your Base Goku grab. WHY IS NOBODY USING THIS
@@wes_magz9164 i have base goku and ui on my team
@@Wrd2.e thank you, and you can relate right
Facts
I like how he calls Jiren scrubby for the counters then proceeds to do piccolos counter about 10 times in one match
Completely different counter property
Instablaster...
@@Skyeissa 👍🏻
Woah Hook going with an actual TH-cam intro?
WHAT IS UP GUYS, hook gang god here
LMAOO I just realized that’s Noah D 💀
I don't think jiren should be able to counter dragon rush. I think dr should be a universal mechanic that can only be teched not countered.
I think it fits Jirens “fuck you and yo bullshit” attitude.
@@ajax4676 thank you jiren was trash for to damn long jiren needs things hes not even top tier calm down
it is dumb imagine a parry countering a grab.
But if you read the party why punish with dr when any other button will get you way more damage and meter
@@xthelegionargamingx6030 because in some cases you're prob not trying to read parry but open your opponent up instead. I honestly cant think of a game where a counter counters grabs it's kinda unorthodox. then again it is an arcsys game where one character has a full screen invincible dp that's also a low
Is that the same Noah D as HOC
yeah he got exposed
@@Jmillz617 exposed for what?
@@raveraidd being a good Jiren player
@@raveraidd hes a scrub and literally rage quit in this video
@@TheNaturalGamer1 no
Heartful Cry just hits different when playing this game
Heartful Cry really hits different when your playing against beerus lmao
This man is TH-cam TH-cam acting 😂😂😂
That thumbnail makes Hook the goat 🐐
Goated thumbnail
hey man. Good work on your editing. It definitely has improved
I think Broly is much more scrubby than jiren or vegito lol
Facts
Nah Vegito is worse but it’s close
Wait which Broly? SUPER Broly? I can see why because he had a lot of grabs
@@saldav2670 well Zbroly is still just as scrubby imo. 214L way too fast to be a fuckin’ command grab.
0:36 "you can't do anything but bait it. It is so stupid" What is the difference to a DP? The mechanic that is in fighting games since... ever and you only can bait?
dps are diffrent from a parry that is very active. in alot of fighting games a dp can be countered simply by just doing a crossup attack at the right time on someones wakeup.
Tenryuu Black Rose also dp inputs are different in other fighting games compared to fighterz so it’s much easier to just do it in a string
Waited for jiren buffs since the start of season three as a main then we get these buffs 😭 I mean they're good but it feels like arc sys didn't even know jiren's fundamental flaws and just buffed certain things to make him braindead.
Maybe they should buff his grab to be 19 frames
@@wes_magz9164 Yeah, that was one of his worst moves and it attributed to one if his biggest flaws and it was only reduced by two frames. I dont think it should be 19 frames, but anything above 24 is way too slow for a grab that takes up a button.
@@DeepBoice I know right
@@wes_magz9164 I been think they should give him a normal heavy and make the grab a 6H.
@@DeepBoice nah it's his normal dude he doesn't even have a standard heavy , imo it should be minimum 19-20 frames the fact that it's 26 is embarrasing as a jiren main. plus he doesn't have a low 2L to open people us, just has mainly staggers. If broly grab is 24 and has armor the least they could do is make jiren faster than a special move smh, I would like it to be a 17 frame grab like 18
Hook btw for 100% accuracy on piccolo throw after hell zone midscreen just super dash as soon as u do hell zone then throw same thing as just jumping and throwing but you wont ever miss the DR like u did once this week. Just a small tip
at the range he was it it would have dropped if he did that. by the time he recovered from the super dash (because you cant just super dash then immedialty dr you have to super dash and then dr after the sd animation ends pr else you'll just get a jab) the hellzones would have dissapeared and wouldnt be able to get the dr
@@tenryuublackrose2176 no I tried it it works 10p percent of the time
@@blinds300 that wouldnt have worked he was too far away to super dash after hellzone and still dr before they left.
Heartful cry just fits a fight so good
Music playing in 5:00?
Labrys theme- P4 Arena
My man even the day UI goku came out i played him a shit ton,but now? Do people not get bored of the same exact shit? Do that much people really value more mf keeping that damn rank up than actually having fun in the game? Un fucking believable
Got this in my recommended after hooks 6 vids on maining jiren
Hold on, I've been playing jiren, since day one, so now jirens since the counter buffs all they do is spam because that's the only thing they know now with the last patch. I refuse to accept that he's on the same level as vegito, c'mon.
I know right. This guy gets way to toxic sometimes!
Yo what’s your opinion on ss1 vegeta I’m picking him up as an anchor
SSJ Vegeta? Just made a video about him bruh. fun character but lacking tools
Shit, I missed that Mario party gameplay, pain
Did hook really say jiren Is a scrubby character (a character without even a standard H and a 26 frame slow ass grab, no 2L or mix, and is basically a neutral focus and defensive character ) and yet uses SSJ broly and piccolo LOL ok man...
And piccolo has a counter style move as well so what is he complaining about LOL
Well it’s true that he does need to rely on neutral but if he can counter one singular frame of a beam he seems a bit scrubby don’t ya think? I also know that Jiren doesn’t have mix but he does have super good stagger for the “wait until the opponent does something” character type. Also also check out MoldyBagel’s video on Jiren’s counter to see how it’s so much different than Piccolos.
@@swingingflinging683 yah I know it's different than piccolo, but how does a 1 frame counter make a character scrubby, the move has so many flaws still it's so easily baitaable and pull combo punishable if anything UI wake up is a lot more scrubby , piccolo has a lot more scrubbier stuff like his plus 4 instant air shoulder bash which is easy to do, broly is just eveyrthijg scrubby , the guy has 24 frame armor grab and full armor full screen shoulder tackle that can lead to instant 70% in sparking with level 3 lol and safe on block lol
Jiren also doesn't have a beam a ki blast that beats ki blast. But this is coming from a broly player best zoner in the game and can hit you almost full screen with a jab
@@emmanuelstrickland9829 yah lol sorry man broly is wayy more scrubbier than jiren, nothing agaisnt you as a player though , you could be really good for all I know but broly is just stupid now lol
TH-cam fella here-
Is there a Chef's Kiss emote or nah?
Could also substitute with Shaq's kiss
Why don't you use Blue Vegita?
What is that fire as music playing 2:22
th-cam.com/video/lL9_dojFJCY/w-d-xo.html
it’s aegis’ theme from persona 4 arena or bbtag
Joshua Garcia thank you :)
Sacred 0_0 thank you :)
what the song at 1:40 ?
Are u officially back at Goku or u going back to vegeta
he's not Gropis
Nice video hook❤️🔥
0:33 Not if your Ultra Ignorance cuz he can go into 236/214S or 214H after hitting assuming you read he does it cuz if you mash the last button you pressed will come out its really dumb same for Janemba Teleport and pre-patch Base Vegeta 236H anything that puts you into the air like UI Beam or a frame 4 invul move will beat it as well as a move thats just too fast for Jiren to track like UI 236M or SSJ1 Vegeta 236H (UP CLOSE)
Guess what idc
@@certifiedsimp9703 Bruhhh xD
Woahhh. Hook is an actual TH-camr now? No more acting?
Chef's Kiss
bruh soon as I start wanting to use jiren he scrubby now
that's why you play characters before they get buffed
Just don’t do what this jiren player did and you’re good to go
Pro players always play characters after they get buffed
I don’t think Jiren is scrubby, he’s just cornball
Dude don't listen to hook he's not scrubby lol, this guy hook plays piccolo and ssj broly and calls jiren scrubby lmao gtfo here
Hey bro ... did u u drop blu vegeta ? ;(((
Nah pretty sure he just switches between the Blues.
He said in this video (th-cam.com/video/Io7Ixd2Y-1Y/w-d-xo.html) that he lacks damage which is needed to kill ui goku as fast as possible
Oh shit, an actual intro
Damn why u do my guy noah like that 😂😂😂
His projectile counter you can vanish, I believe.
If your fast enough you can level three too
As a dude who runs UI & Jiren on the same team, I found this hilarious lmao
You probably mash before you think too
@@BassAsLeaders why would he? He’s playing Goku UI lol
To say us jiren players are vegito level is soo nuts 😂 hook must not have been 5LL to death in a while
It's the same premise though. Braindead vegito players spam 5L and braindead jiren players spam counters
@@stevendrake5268 most of jirens moves are counters hes literally a wall that's his character but every other character that is scrubby gets a pass?
@@pancakes7483 I'm not saying every other charecter gets a pass, I was just comparing one charecter that some people turn their brain off for and another charecter that also sometimes turn their brain off for. Your right about jiren though. Most of his moveset is counters but I'm specifically referring to jirens who only mash counter and not much else. The charecter, while a wall can do more then spam counters
My man talks about ui being corny but you're playing z broly
i was playing jiren before the buff so him being scrubby now makes me sad
Holy shit.. Noah D is a "pro player" who goes to the HOC... and he's a rage quitter.. he does not have my respect anymore
I’m sure he’s heartbroken
I am going to play like this guy
Give jiren mains a break. This update was a blessing. We deserved a spamable move. Even if it is a tad busted XD
As a Jiren player, I think it's kiiinda dumb it counters GRABS. That part is a little too much. But if it had to be on a character, Jiren fits the most given his whole schtick in the anime and manga
@@crispylunch yeah the grab part is a little busted but at least his frame 1 count doesn't counter everything then it would just be unfair.
If that's the same HOC Noah_D who uses the same team that's a shame he got exposed rage quitting online
Yeah cuz Z Broly isn’t scrubby at all
I played a jiren yesterday this man countered kid buu mystic ball still doesn't beat a broly player either broly yonking u out the sky
not noah D bro
Jiren is scrubbier/cheaper than vegito now imo
No Noah D not like this lol
Jiren hella scruby bro
Hook opponent showed that
This LF mashed Counter every time Hook tried to get a overhead
I hate UI Goku .One of the cheapest characters in the game
Bet lets run some matches
Hook what about gogeta
And UI
Never say that on twitch. You might get shot HggPain
@@schopenhauer0076 who is that
you hate to see it
@@HookGangGod ?
Been saying Noah D was trash spamming counters during your opponents oki doesn’t make you good him and axeice down tech mashing full screen rekkas ass are the worst
How the fuck are you suppose to play this game then?
@@tsarpeteri8578 you know it’s possible to play games without mashing and trying to abuse certain moves? Especially if it keeps getting you punished lmao
they are atleast better than alukard that's prob one of the worst "pro" dbfz players I've ever seen
hen i saw orb vs orb i was kinda hard (ʘᗩʘ’)
Bruh piccolos ex chop is the same shit. Don't be a hypocrite
Saying Jiren is scrubby and then playing Z Broly and Bluku, oh the irony lmao
Blue Goku isn’t scrubby at all. You literally gotta be good at the game to play that character efficiently
Hook you lowkey be spamming piccolos counter too 😭
He only did it because he was spamming his 😭😭
@@AwkwardPlg oh is that why lmao
Yeeerrrr
He should be banned from HOC for obviously rage quitting
You bias bro piccolo has a counter to
Don’t disrespect my main, Love his counters.
*Plus it makes it easier to deal with broly and zoners*
Zoning in dbfz 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you mean that universal mechanic to reflect.
@@blueflamephoenix Reflecting works as well. I mean I don’t spam counter. But if I’m tired of dealing with broly ki blasts, piccolo orb assist, and other things I’m using it. People got me messed up if they think I’m gonna hold a broly grab 😂
@@terrakage4462 broly grab? Hold up.
comment for algorithm
Yerrr
hook complaining about ever character fr fr
Jiren is not scrubby
He is
As soon as our tools work we are scrubby, meanwhile UI exists
My jiren isnt.. kinda is lololol
Idk why 214s counters dr though lmao
He is
Can I please play with you? I want to test my skill. I will gladly pay you for your time
I honestly dont see how it's an issue. Just git gud.
I hateee ui goku
Yoooooo
neckbeard
i thought hook shaved that shit off lol
🤣🤣
Cry
FYI I didn't rage quit, we played more games after this🤣. Dbfz just disconnected us.