Bass Radiators with Lowered Tuning? (LISTEN)

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  • @hArDsTyLe2259
    @hArDsTyLe2259 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    *recycle bin gets full again*

  • @Bobbrians
    @Bobbrians 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    To my understanding, in order for a bass radiator setup to work properly the passive radiator or radiators should have much greater cone area and excursion than the original driver.
    For example, a 10 inch subwoofer with 8mm of xmax would be best paired with a 10 inch passive radiator with over 12mm of excursion or a pair of 8 inch passive radiators with equal or greater excursion than the original 8 inch driver.
    A 6x9 is close in cone area to an 8 inch driver so a single 6x9 with a pair of 8 inch radiators in a small enclosure should yield fairly impressive results.

    • @MyStonerMind420
      @MyStonerMind420  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you know that

    • @Bobbrians
      @Bobbrians 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My Stoner Mind
      Please dont think that I was trying to be cheeky, I meant absolutely no offense.

    • @MyStonerMind420
      @MyStonerMind420  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bobbrians oh I know, I didn't mean to be so short with my reply. Doing it "correctly" wasn't the point of the video and a lot of people have been saying something I'm fully aware of. I appreciate the detailed reply though.

    • @Bobbrians
      @Bobbrians 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MyStonerMind420
      Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as one of the horde. I mess around with projects like this all time and am a big fan, I recently took an old empty dual 12 tower speaker enclosure and tested a passive radiator setup in it using an old 12"Alpine dvc type S with 1 bad coil and paired it with some old crappy 12 that I tore the magnet off then hot glued some washers to the dustcap, it sounded surprisingly good for being made out of old broken parts, my wife did not appreciate the noise and mess that I made though.

    • @MyStonerMind420
      @MyStonerMind420  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very nice, I've been thinking of doing something similar but with these speakers and boxes. My wife is used to me and my speakers. Met her first in the late 90's and I had 2 12's in the back of a small car, which eventually changed to a medium sized car (Impreza WRX) with 2 15's in place of the rear seats. It didn't end there but yeah, she doesn't mind ;)

  • @KaironexCryziz
    @KaironexCryziz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    depending on the distance from the driver and the radiator you may be creating a cardioid pattern where the phase cancels out the other.

  • @jonathanaugle
    @jonathanaugle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    well, IMO the benefit of passive radiators is not the boost in output but the extra cone control. They are not the same as ported since they have a higher roll off meaning they have even less low end extension than ported and sealed so the only time they are useful is when you are only limited by the mechanical limits of the driver and the space allowed by the box. I made a little Bluetooth speaker with 2 4 inch full range and had plenty of power on tap but the drivers were over executing on even mild midbass so I used passive radiators to keep the excursion down allowing me to give them more power overall and that is where you get your extra output. Not the box getting more efficient per watt but allowing it to take more of them. The efficiency gain is minimal at best and you butcher low low end but for certain uses, they do have there place.
    get a recording of both of them playing side by side at the tuning of the passive radiator. It will dampen the cone of the speaker and allow it to move less and still make the same sound (then do 15 hz lower and watch it go nuts :D)

    • @TimpBizkit
      @TimpBizkit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't necessarily have much faster a roll off but they do notch out their own free air resonance. The free air resonance of any port is 0 Hz (because if you have infinite air each side there's nothing wanting to bounce the port air column).
      If you can use a passive radiator system with a free air resonance that's much lower than the tuning of the box (or you can use multiple radiators with weights), then this notch should be well below where the audible output drops off, and ideally filtered out by a high pass filter.

  • @Mazout69
    @Mazout69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Total cost of this video : 18 pennys

    • @blackmoon1399
      @blackmoon1399 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comme on se retrouve 😂

    • @Mazout69
      @Mazout69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blackmoon1399 On a les mêmes centres d'intérêt ;)

    • @e-homie2836
      @e-homie2836 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correction, eight 2 cent coins

    • @matthew3p
      @matthew3p 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KushHappy - ehomie420 nah 9 2pence coins

  • @mirusai
    @mirusai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    i hear a bit of louder bass but ehh, still a enjoyable video 👍👍
    but i wonder if you added a massive radiator HMMM 🤔

    • @Vrylonely12
      @Vrylonely12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was thinking the same thing, i feel like it needs one the same size as the 6x9 or just under..the radiators are around the same size as what they usually help in speaker "boxes ".

    • @mirusai
      @mirusai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah i was watching a video a while back where the 18 inch sub was paired with 18 inch passives and that gave a big boost in bass so maybe that's what My Stoner Mind should try.

    • @Rome7869
      @Rome7869 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mirusai ........I tried to told him.........🤔

    • @willtato8778
      @willtato8778 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It could also be with the slight differences in positioning though yes, there is definitely a noticeable difference

    • @zeegamingandmusic3855
      @zeegamingandmusic3855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mirusai kinda reminds me of a Creative Labs subwoofer. It was setup with a 5.25" inside the box with a chamber of it's own. While on the outside it's an 8" subwoofer with only a cone. No motor or anything.

  • @gabrielh.50
    @gabrielh.50 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The one with the passive radiator has a better kick

    • @marwintalens7066
      @marwintalens7066 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just built my own Bluetooth speaker, the lock is amazing but it won't sustain, maybe a 50w speaker is too much for a 8 watt sub channel

  • @nkkox
    @nkkox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You deserve way more subs

  • @UnexpectedSensation
    @UnexpectedSensation 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is this test beat you created on your SoundCloud 😍 I want to test it on my system

  • @Patata0ke
    @Patata0ke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    after the weights have been installed there is a noticeable higher freq adjust vs the stock one (w/out weights) w/c is very noticeable in most human ear. 60hz up. below that freq is not noticeable in a small speaker.

  • @randomtube8226
    @randomtube8226 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great effort! I heard a difference.

  • @everythingchannel5481
    @everythingchannel5481 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What glue can i use to seal my bluetooth speaker? Because passive radiator is not moving the air is producing everywhere

  • @rich1051414
    @rich1051414 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds like it is boost the mid woofer ranges but not the sub woofer range. I guess you just need more radiator area to keep moving that towards the lower frequencies.

  • @DriftTaxi
    @DriftTaxi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet it's Americans not getting British humour. Unfortunately many of us don't get dry or more wit-based humour. It has to be more "in your face" "HEY I'M MAKING A JOKE, LAUGH!" type of funny. It's just a cultural thing. I grew up on Black Adder, Frye and Laurie, Mr. Bean, Monty Python, and a slew of others so I'm used to it. I also am fortunate (or am I) to be in a relationship with a Scot, so that helps as well, LOL!

  • @theunion2021
    @theunion2021 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like you need a slightly bigger box or fill this box with polyfill(or any damping material) that should also lower the tuning effectively because if the airspace isn't enough to move properly at bass frequency you will get a drop in spl or the total sound output

    • @556andy
      @556andy ปีที่แล้ว

      So adding some cloth will lower bass frequencies?? Because im in the process of making a 7 by 2 and 2 inches wood bluetooth speaker and its gonna have a x2 10 watt amp with 2 1.5 inch 10 watt speakers and a passive radiator in the middle of the drivers and i wanna get the most bass as possible so i was thinking on glueing 2 coins on the passive radiator. Any suggestions to get more bass out of it??

  • @chrome4096
    @chrome4096 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @My Stoner Mind friends cat did the same, especially when sitting at the window looking out. The cat was legit crazy, and became the coolest cat ever after a near death expirience and some drugz from the vet. Still wondering if the tomcat turned pigeon after that, or if it tried to actually use this as a (hopless) hunting strategy...

  • @gabrielvieira6529
    @gabrielvieira6529 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    An bigger radiator give more bass?
    And if they have more excursion?

  • @streeatbeat
    @streeatbeat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are those pure tones you're playing or sort of ''resonant'' tones. cause you might see a bit more difference with pure tones ^~^ Have a nice Thursday!

  • @bryanpeeters2552
    @bryanpeeters2552 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey! try to tune one of the boxes with Dayton nd 105 PS [those are the passive radiator editions] these are also tuneable with weights and i'm really willing to see and hear how those would sound in a box. if you plan on doing this, a comparison between the other passives would be cool!

  • @noleenneethanathan1620
    @noleenneethanathan1620 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why dont u get a big box and add a bunch of passive radiators and attach them to the box with a sub

  • @Grenade80
    @Grenade80 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me it seems that those passive radiators are cool to watch as they wobble, but they hardly add anything to the sound itself. So porting it is.

  • @jtburkett1068
    @jtburkett1068 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey buddy love the videos keep up the good work and

  • @TimpBizkit
    @TimpBizkit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get like a cubic foot box and put those mini radiators on all sides tuned to 50 Hz.

  • @ThEASbO
    @ThEASbO 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please make that beat into a song.

  • @Krakadil
    @Krakadil 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think bass radiators give lil bit more bass but they are made to see the bass

  • @cameronlockett5698
    @cameronlockett5698 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi My Stoner Mind do you play on PlayStation 4 and can you please inbox me if you do?

  • @sausey5857
    @sausey5857 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if you used a bandbass on a sub with this kind of setup

  • @XPLOD2556
    @XPLOD2556 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add neodymium magnets to the passive radiator

  • @CasualMinistries
    @CasualMinistries 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah the radiators really don't do much but give the box a bit more flex so that the main speaker can breathe on those lows,that's my guess. But one thing is for sure, you'll have a pet pidgeon by next thursday.

  • @deadboy3646
    @deadboy3646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm like 99% sure that pancake is in heat.

  • @1308lee
    @1308lee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this how I increase the value of my speakers?

  • @Pan_Yankess
    @Pan_Yankess 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    pancake is on heat apparently

  • @YousukeSuzuhara
    @YousukeSuzuhara 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think that the radiators just stream the Sound in the corne of the room and "produce" more bass.
    like putting my phone somewhere in the corne..........just a opinion........

    • @MyStonerMind420
      @MyStonerMind420  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this was already mentioned in a video

  • @irfanj
    @irfanj 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    With more weight i think it sounds more clearer.

  • @creative_stwb1336
    @creative_stwb1336 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    isn't bigger always better ; )?
    and i love the execution

    • @MyStonerMind420
      @MyStonerMind420  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bigger is better until it begins to hurt. Oh wait you mean the speaker? Yeah usually, yeah *ahem*

    • @creative_stwb1336
      @creative_stwb1336 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MyStonerMind420 I can recommend the moby huge if you can take it.
      Back to the bass radiators. 10 inch sub with two 10 inch radiators ? I think that would sound good at least if you like shaking walls

    • @isaacsanchez7317
      @isaacsanchez7317 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MyStonerMind420 LOL😂😂

  • @brocifer5264
    @brocifer5264 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also good vid

  • @EastAngliaUK
    @EastAngliaUK 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    B has a bit more.

  • @skyler9988
    @skyler9988 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The unmodified box has more bass and less treble than the one with bass radiators. LOL

  • @incubusfamiliar
    @incubusfamiliar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    the highs sound more crisp

  • @westelaudio943
    @westelaudio943 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Box size increased by 2 now 😉

  • @linandy1
    @linandy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish i had time to make videos due to having free time. People who don't get jokes are not human.

  • @pspmielonka
    @pspmielonka 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look good

  • @jairuflores8813
    @jairuflores8813 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My stoner mind wont pin this i bet!

  • @Vrylonely12
    @Vrylonely12 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agrees with mirusai

  • @wherisme
    @wherisme 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hm... try to do it with sub.

  • @krusty4793
    @krusty4793 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    PS4 with a hdd on top of a sub? that cant be good! oh wait my pc is on top of a sub D:

    • @MyStonerMind420
      @MyStonerMind420  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      dunno about yours but mines magnetically shielded :p

    • @krusty4793
      @krusty4793 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Stoner Mind mine isnt but its been running fine for over a year so so far so good :D

  • @OCIAKTechChannel
    @OCIAKTechChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    spoko

  • @Rome7869
    @Rome7869 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    5,557th!

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    No difference

  • @gabrielvieira6529
    @gabrielvieira6529 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hahahahahahah pigeon hahahahha

  • @chanrobertson6971
    @chanrobertson6971 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats your ps4 acount name ill add you

  • @brocifer5264
    @brocifer5264 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Third

  • @marloni22
    @marloni22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    yay 9th comment