they won't because they're doing truck pulls and are fine. You need to crack the aluminum, which requires excessive (read: over the limit) tongue weight. Yes, steel will only bend. either way, they're doing what they're specced for + some
isn't that kinda like asking if hooking up two rubber bands together and pulling on them will cause them to both snap? i don't think that it's like in a video game where two people shoot at each other and happen to take each other out. if i had to guess, i would think that one of the two is gonna break first, and then it will instantly relieve the pressure on the other and leave that one intact.
As a rock climber, I use aluminum carabiners to save weight on most pieces I place in the rock for protection. But when it’s going to be cross loaded or it’s a crucial piece I used a steel biner. Wanna guess why?
As an oilfield worker, and a commercial diver, I have done some HORRIBLE things to a ford truck. Not once has the frame ever snapped, or broke in half.
i put a F350 Super Duty into a deactivation ditch at 80km/hr while tree planting because i wasnt paying attention. bent the frame a smidge, was lucky i didnt set off the air bags. broke one of my planters waterbottles from the impact, no injuries to my planters as far as i know... we then drove that exact truck without any work done on it, for another 2.5 months 300km per day minimum, and upwards of 2300km in the last day... i was one of the few drivers to not get my "truck bonus" of $500 because... i bent the frame a bit... this video makes me think i shoulda just tried to straighten it myself...
Tesla management: Hey , all premium manufacturers use aluminum instead of steel. Tesla employee: At what part? Tesla management: I guess it doesn`t matter , pick one.
@@rockclimber1985 So they could just use aluminum where the friggin metal is *supposed* to break to avoid braking *you,* and use steel only where it is *not* supposed to break AKA your hitch.
As an engineer, the one thing that is possibly even more important than the capacity or load rating of a product, is the method of failure. The cybertruck frame coming apart like that, in such a brittle fashion, is completely unacceptable no matter what amount of force was applied to it. The ford frame bending is a failure method is much preferable
Tucker drove it in a circle in a dirt field and called it good. Cody beat the shit out of it and called it not good. WhistlinDiesel is my product standard specialist, no one else.
Someone already pointed this out under one of the "debunking" videos, that by the very laws of physics both trucks were pulling on each other with equal force, but only the shitty one snapped in half.
Quick plug to add that the government poured all of the funding into rocket engines, taxpayer funding. Elon and SpaceX are beneficiaries of a colossal body of knowledge that simply couldn't be possible in today's social landscape. The government used to tax billionaires to pay for R&D to invent new technologies, now the government pays billionaires to take credit for the works of thousands of engineers, scientists, technicians, and all of the people along the way that make it happen.
He's a rich idea guy, that's it. I can't think of anything he's come up with that has actually been adopted in any meaningful way. Cybertruck is no exception, it's an eyesore and a danger to all on the road.
@@drcatboy9278 regardless of the cybertrash. What the engineers in spaceX have done with rockets is an innovation and it is atually good (by now). I understand hating on cybertrash since is a pure hype "truck" with some cool details to make it look more interesting but failing at basic things.
@@derflerp538he doesn't even have ideas unless you count thinking X is really cool as an idea. I'm pretty sure Ford did all the ground work for electric vehicls in the 80s but they killed the project for their oil buddies. Their engineers then left to found Tesla. Musk only showed up to buy stocks and later the company. I guess there is PayPal. He helped with that but he was fired from that for wanting to call it X. Reusable rocket tech was maximized by nasa with the space shuttle. Both nasa and the Russians cost the tax payer less for flights and nasa did the moon cheaper and better with slide rulers. The hyperloop is a vacuum train, a 200 year old idea and something he only pushed to kill an American high speed rail project in California, you know rail? A safe convenient and a actually functional mode transportation. I mean seriously name one idea Musk has ever had that is new and that an engineers couldn't debunk with a pen and napkin on his lunch break.
The fact that the FRAME snapped faster than 3/8” chain is INSANE. There isn’t enough stupid names in the dictionary to call the people who don’t think so.
If ur talking about the f150 it’s not crazy. The chain is lifting up X amount weight while the frame is taking the brunt force of X amount of weight on a drop it 2 different scenarios. If u had the chain do the same thing where you drop that weight but the chain stops the fall instead of the frame the chain would snap in half first try
@@techLiteracy_ no it’s two different forces. The frame is getting an abrupt blow while the chain is being used for a lift. If I lift a 500 pound weight with a chain it will be fine. If I drop the same weight and let it fall for like 50 feet and let the chain catch it it’s going to probably break, if not it’s taking a lot more damage than just holding the weight.
I can get infinite entertainment from people coping about your cyber truck durability test. “Your frame is part of the crumple zone” is probably one of the funniest things I’ve heard a human say
Elon Musk likes to compare himself to Marvel's Tony Stark however I totally doubt the dude even know how to fix his own car without calling for assistance from others.
@@papafamilias92010 Hey, I'm a financial worker and not trying to be the smart one but you are incorrect. If you look, you will see that the stock price with twenty years had actually changed from 2 dollars per share all the way to 21 dollars per share. Now it is at 7 and climbing!
I hope you don't buy that car for your wife and kids. You can Bend steel, but it get week in that Point. This car should not drive in thé Road anymore.
OK. But after that treatment that Truck would fail any inspection by an engineer. You will definitively find cracks and signs of nonelastic material deformation. Bring it to the German TÜV and it is game over. But the Cybertruck will never get an official approval in the EU due to the sharp edges and the massive overweight.
@@gormauslander Nah man, they did it to me too, before autism was widely known they would just give us autistic kids in the early 2000s whatever drug would make us stop "misbehaving", it wasn't until 5th grade or so that I finally got my aspergers diagnosis, and hell, nowadays, that's just part of autism. I wouldn't really call myself successful though, and also I doubt aliens are real either but if they were I'd probably try being friends with one.
Project Farm is great. He does REAL tests where he actually puts each thing being tested through the SAME tests, unlike this idiot. This is just Chaotic Stupid.
some people are very invested in the idea that musk doesn't lie to them. 100k+ and 20 years invested in fact - and a lot of them got positive feedback about it by having invested into his speech a decade ago by buying stocks(that did well), so they got 'proof'. once you're in that enough you start to ignore logic and don't ask questions why is supercruise now FSD, what happened to autopilot being able to drive without someone being in the car that you'd get as a software patch for a car you paid extra for when you bought a car 10 years ago etc. musk has continuously lied about the state their lab version of autopilot is in for over a decade somehow without getting into (too much) trouble with the sec - he is GREAT at lobbying and getting funding but not so much in the technical stuff or truth.
Not only that but the thin skinned owners of said company like to throw the ban hammer when people on their Xitter criticise them. It''s all about free speech, just don't bad mouth mr exception to the rule or he will have a sook about it,
There are a bunch of old guy engineers at Ford watching this right now getting amped up shouting "I told you so! I Told em! I Told em to stick with what works! I KNEW it! YEAH!"
in a sad yet wholesome way. this leans itself towards the sheby scene in the ford movie that ford jr himself wished his father was around to see this.. I feel it.
Probably just wanted to cut down the weight since the damn thing is already as heavy as 2 f150s. Probably just needs to switch to steel frames for the cybertruck and its good to go.
Aluminum is great to use for a trailer to keep the weight down and increase trailer load capacity. It is not a good material for towing vehicle frame. The constant shock between the 2 vehicles is going to cause stress failures.
Every time I saw a comment about the cyber truck hitting the hitch on some concrete and the whole time I thought “do people not realize what people put other trucks through offroad? I mean they bash their hitches way harder than the cyber truck did.” So glad you made this video.
@@MrFastFox666buddy. They took the cyber truck to hells gate to test it for off-road in Moab. That is certainly not a puddle or gravel pit. That’s the hardest, or one of the hardest off road lines anyone could off-road. Sorry to say, but you are horribly horribly wrong. Fact check before you take a flight to yapperville
TOUNGE WEIGHT Maximum Tongue Weight* "1100 LB for the cybertruck" IT fell on the hitch a cybertruck weighs more than 1100 lbs!!!! If you drop a whole truck on the frame like that of course it will break.
I've smacked the crap out of the rear hitch on my Unibody Jeep XJ. And pulled other vehicles out of sand and mud. It has yet to fall off. The Tesla fanboy cope has been wild.
Being a Ford or Chevy guy in 2024 is retarded. Every single one is just as good as the orher, you’re literally choosing off looks now. In the 80s and before things were dog shit and even a brand new truck may not start always, so of course there were sides to choose. Chevy will stay ahead on reliability as the 5.3s from the early 2000s are all over the road still while the early 2000s fords are mostly dead. And if i were to be choosing a side I’d say i was a ford guy more than anything. But mainly because nobody else makes a $40,000 car that’ll hold 1200whp with an unopened block like the 5.0. Chevy would hold up just as well as this ford would in this test.
@@default3740 toyota has been claiming people voided their warranty on the gr86 by driving over 85mph and not warrantying the motors when they pop bc subaru (who build the motor for the gr86) hasnt made a decent power plant in 15 years. idk wtf that has to do with a cyber truck or the above comment but you know some people arent the sharpest spoon in the drawer
That's what I've been wondering since the beginning of Gigacasting. I'm not an expert in materials science, but as far as I know with cast metal, cast parts tend to break brittle, whereas the rolled sheet metal and profiles of conventional cars deform plastically before they break completely.
Most engineering design is related to the expected "normal use" of what it was purpose designed for. This idiot here makes no distinction between what is termed "normal loading" on any component, and what is termed "shock loading". You know pushing a nail with a hammer, versus hitting the nail with the hammer. Produces what it termed "a high amplitude load, of short duration", that can be many times the static load for that instant. Cranes have this very same problem, you can have a 20 Ton crane and a 10 Ton load, and if the load drops (load brake failure etc.) it will break the crane boom like a pretzel. Any type of "shock load" will do this to anything, because it can be many times the amplitude of the standard "static" design load. These guys doing this here have a lunatic world view about all things mechanical, total mechanical idiots. Musk did not help his case any by hammering the truck, and hitting it with bowling balls etc. suggesting that the truck was "indestructible". This does nothing but attract these "I'll prove you wrong" mentality idiots. Even military tanks are "destructible", just hit then with the right kind of "shock load" , which in military terminology is "AN EXPLOSION". (an extreme shock load)
U just had to say unironically. Most brain rot word .... It started off in the nerd community trying to come off edgy etc. then it became copy n paste . Ppl kept saying it non stop over n over. Like a soundboard button. How to b original .. something ppl can't seem to fathom
From a legal standpoint, Tesla not responding is further proof of how serious of an issue this is. They do not want to be on the record admitting to knowledge of this when someone is inevitably injured/killed.
It’s not a serious issue. Trucks aren’t designed to be dropped off huge concrete directly onto the bottom of the frame. Tesla has never said the vertical rating for that frame was 7 ton. They’ve said it’s closer to 2. Frame wouldn’t have snapped if the full weight of the truck didn’t slam into it from the bottom
So technically Ford has the advantage. It's way cheaper and works better. Lol. Tesla. More expensive and prone to break if it rains. Or goes off a cliff. What a bucket of shit.
As an Aluminum Fabricator, I can tell you that, cast aluminum is absolutely not to be spec’d for structural componentry. There are a handful of manufacturers that make the engine block as a structural component (mostly motorcycles) but I tend to steer clear. While a towing capacity may be set at a certain amount, the shock loading from braking and bumps and potholes, can be many times that. That is the failure we saw. Cast aluminum shouldn’t have been used and with Tesla’s engineering team, they should have known better. All aluminum trailer manufacturers, use steel tongues that are thru-bolted, through the aluminum frame. BTW, those aluminum frames are extruded, not cast. Way different alloy and way different process. May as well be 2 different metals.
And the moment of inertia of that cross section, where it broke, is very low. Given the fatigue behaviour of aluminium alloys, yikes. I wouldn't call that the frame though, it's more of a bumper/hitch attachment. Most cars have cast aluminium suspension parts, including large SUVs. So cast aluminium does have its uses.
don't really watch this diesel guy except for when the site recommends it and the title looks interesting, but i recently caught the other one with these trucks being tested and some other one with a merry go round with a jet engine, and i think i remember both of them having the little skit with this whole "if you recently passed away from mesothelioma, call blah blah to reach out to ambulance-chasers and money-sucking vampires and associates and they'll find a way to make some cash off your surviving relatives" lawyer thing and i definitely thought that it was a joke. honestly i still think it's likely to be a joke upon a joke. there's no shot some dude like that would show up to be featured alongside what this diesel guy does. and the ridiculous most generic sounding name and phone number.. no way that is real, hahah
There is no longer any argument about fair treatment of the Cyber Truck. That thing is simply not capable of real truck stuff. It's for urban truck stuff.
They're for scrap yards. 7000 pound trucks with these many serious issues should not be anywhere near cities. If America had a functioning regulatory system Cybertrucks would not be street legal
Especially since the cybertruck doesn't even have a frame. It is unibody. The entire truck would need to be recalled, and a new replacement given to customers. Much worse than Toyota and their frame fiasco.
I feel like Shia Labeouf on Hot Ones, when he told Sean “You’re really good at this, dawg.”, because man, you’re really good at this, dawg. The editing, the talking, the script, the gnarlyness👌🏾 suuuubbed lol
@GTFCEO no he was ducking in case the chain snapped and sent it flying back into the cab. People have died from using steel chains that have snapped or attaching recovery equipment to the ball and having that break free and become a lethal projectile.
i like the fact that the video showed not only dropping it onto the frame, but also the very tip of the installed hitch where the leverage and force is much higher, and it still didn't break off. that to me is irrefutable evidences that a frame should never be made out of aluminum.
The weight of the f-150 is significantly less and 90% of that weight is on the front two tires because of the engine. The cyber Truck had 2-3 times the force coming down on that slab because the battery is spread across the whole truck. These tests are just stupid.
If he used a strap with some give instead of a chain with 0 - the tesla would have been fine. Remember the topgear episode with the toyota trucks in the arctic? they used super elastic bungee straps to pull themselves out without destroying their frames.
@@Aaronalex117There actually people that drove on the highway and same rear frame snapped on them and lost trailer. Once I saw that cross section on his last video where it snapped and the fact it aluminum, it definitely a weak point and knew it going to be a issue.
And what did the 90,000 lbs have to do with any of these tests exactly? The boom, arm and bucket don't weigh anywhere near that, and that's all that were involved here.
13 years ago Top Gear did their best to destroy a Toyota Hilux. They drowned it, smashed it, set it on fire and a host of other damage. Finally, they put it on top of a 22 story building that was about to be demolished with explosives. They dragged it off the rubble, started it and it drove.
I work in QA, specifically with cast aluminum. Aluminum is great, it's an incredible metal, it literally changed the world, but it really likes to break when you push it too far. It's easier to break than glass in certain circumstances, it's more flexible than steel in certain circumstances, it's just so dang weird and the metallurgy is so complicated, stress/strain curves and all that stuff. But the steel frame bending all over the place and the cast aluminum frame breaking, is not surprising in the slightest to me.
Nope it shouldn't be surprising to anyone that has dealt with cast aluminum its used everywhere like lower and upper control arms on most cars and trucks that hold the front wheel on and break offen from most impacts to the wheels
Also depended on the shape. They made the frame have those cross cross-sections for increased rigidity over reduced weight. But that means that instead of bending, it starts shearing the vertical parts because they can't stretch anymore. Then that shear creates a stress point for then to rip the whole thing off when pulled. Steel car frames often have a box or U shape, when those bend they metal can move places without starting a shear fracture, making it even less likely to break than it already is based on the material.
The aluminum alloys that have decent strength don't bend well, and the alloys that bend well don't have strength. Try bending 6061 like you would 3003.
this was very entertaining and interesting! though the idea of 'thinking outside the box' being an unalloyed good did make me giggle. sometimes the box is 'things that work' and thinking outside it is a terrible idea 🤣
Tesla: Drops on its hitch and the frame breaks Ford: gets C4 blown up on the door, gets its frame bent and re-straightened by force and still drives like nothing ever happened. “Built Ford tough” Edit: wow i wake up today and this has 2.7k likes, most i have ever had, thanks everyone!
Literally reminds me of Top Gear trying to kill the Toyota Hilux but failed. That truck literally survives falling from a building, burned, taking an overnight bath in the sea and a trailer falling on top of the truck and yet it still wouldn't die.
@@robotbro7187 The truck is physically unfixable because the entire frame is cast aluminum. There's no way to just reattach that rear section without modifying the rest of the frame to accept whatever new pieces will be bolted/welded on
@@the_frankc "without modifying the rest of the frame to accept whatever new pieces will be bolted/welded on" that might be what they have to come up with at tesla as a recall to retain the tow rating. the tow rating is just based on it's own power and weight anyhow though. it has the high tow rating because it's heavy as f, so they turned the being heavy into a sales spec, not that they imagined someone towing something weighing tons for thousands of miles.
Both could be totally fine if you design it correctly. You only show that you have no idea what you are talking about and only repeat the dumb stuff other people say.
Why do I get the feeling the hitch was an after thought. Like, a literal 'one guy on the team' asking: "hey, um, don't trucks need to tow stuff?", and the team was like "fuuuuuuuuuuuuck". Then proceeded to slap a hitch on the frame.
thats exactly what happened. The whole design of this piece of sh*t started form a drawing Melon brought. Thats why it has terrible carbo space, no rear visibility, terrible side vision, terrible headspace in back seats, god awful side mirrors etc. Because this truck started as a drawing and none of it could be changed, and it was never really meant ot be a truck, but a moving drawing Melon made. They had to guess which demographic would like to buy it and how to even promote it so it's very likely for half of the design process it wasn't seen as a pickup truck but suv.
@@Rab_Cee I still recall my first reaction to it: I thought it was a joke made of plywood and aluminum paint. My friend had to work to convince me it was real.
@@uap24 I was gonna say, for as much abuse as the F-150 has taken in these tests... There remains only ONE vehicle that Cody couldn't kill without dropping it from a helicopter. And he now has 3 of them to keep and preserve.
I simply cant imagine how it would feel to: be a cyber truck owner that left one of the comments on the last video and then be sitting here watching this
@@_DaanP Did you watch the first video? The frame was still there, and he was still driving and testing the Cybertruck without the hitch. It was not bricked. And you see at about 13:00 on the first video, he had to admit about the Ford, "Built Ford weak". You seem like a Ford fanboy. I'm not a Ford OR Tesla fanboy, even though I own a Ford truck.
@@Blodhelm as an engineer. Use a heavier stronger metal as a shell for a weaker tighter metal frame. Usually you do the opposite. He's so "smart" lol.
When you get the Cybertruck back and it breaks (again), you should hook it up to the excavator and drop it the same amount of times you did to the Ford in this video to find out if the Cybertruck breaks or bends.
Well yeah that makes sense if a fuel tank is punctured or a fuel line breaks but a lithium battery fire is a lot more aggressive and burns much hotter so you more then likely have less time to escape from an electric vehicle @stevelabree497
Elon out here innovating by inventing the non-crumple zone and the brittle-failure alu truck frame. Now that's out of the box thinking. The label on said box being 'functioning technology'.
The most wild part of this video is that Cody still calls the Cybertruck innovative after showing it fail at the most basic function of a truck. Anyone can “think outside the box” and make stupid shit. Real innovation is when the product is different *and better*.
I thought he was being sarcastic, honestly. I'm with you... Tesla is not innovative. They just made the same stuff we already have, but cheaper and less durable, and somehow at a higher price point. We have a '47 that my granddad bought after the war, and it still runs. We loan it out for the high school kids' parade every year, and it still gets work as a hose cart. There won't be a single Tesla from today that is still driveable and n 2101.
My dad told me when I was a kid that a hitch from a tractor trailer couldn’t break. It’s not engineered to break. But under incredible weight and heat it will bend. I wanted to know how such a tiny thing could be the centerpiece to something big like a tractor trailer combination. So with that said This is old knowledge. And it’s crazy how many GUYS are in this comment section with none of that knowledge. Thanks to Cody to show us what are Dads were supposed to.
its just crazy to me there a still people meat riding tesla in the replies, there are fewer of them but still, this is a serious issue (not you), saw someone say the test is dumb because the ford has an engine LMAO 💀
That's about 50% true, the whole truth being more than your mind is capable of comprehending. Bend it enough times and it will work harden and then break. All materials fatigue.
But not mostly because it's lightweight, but because it's faster to manufacture; 70 parts reduced to just one part in under 60 seconds, instead of several hours. And it's more rigid than equivalent weight in steel, equating to a stiffer chassis. Though this failure point should be easily avoidable with a redesigned giga-casting with a significantly more substantial structure for the tow hitch mounting point.
Elon bros are hilarious. Elon didn’t engineer a single part on the Falcon engines. Stop giving him credit. The talented engineers that actually design these things are the ones to give congratulations to.
@BiffTannenBTTF You don't even know what the engine is, so why are you acting like you have any clue who was involved? Falcon uses Merlins, the pic he showed was of Raptor. Stop lying about things just because you don't like someone.
Funny little words "Fatigue life limit" Steel when flexed below a certain amount of stress has an unlimited fatigue life. (I.e. think of the minor flexing the frame does as a hitch pulls a trailer and you go over bumps, accelerate, decelerate, etc) Aluminum does not. Aluminum has a finite fatigue life. The less you flex it the longer it lasts, but it still slowly fatigues the material till it fails eventually. If you load the cyber truck up with a max limit trailer, and haul it every day for a landscaping business or something... Well, just make sure your insurance covers the value of the things in the trailer and the liability.
Aluminum work hardens, and I'm guessing that's probably the state the subframe was already in, as I'm pretty sure the subframes are die stamped aluminum.
looking into this a bit, your kinda close, its not so much flex but stress put into the material. so, with steel you can apply and remove up to a certain limit of force to steel an infinite amount of time and it will not fail, while it appears with any amount of force repeatedly applied to aluminum will eventually cause it to fail. (edit: note the force applied may or may not cause the material to visibly flex)
Steel does NOT have an infinite fatigue life. Even at loading below yield, steel will eventually develop cracks after thousands or millions of repetitions. In steel bridge designs or gantry crane support systems fatigue limit states are evaluated in addition to static loads we design for. Examples of this are the cracks in the Memphis I-40 bridge super structure. I have also seen cracks in massive steel beams in loadout structures in practice. I do agree though, comparatively aluminum is a very brittle metal.
@@beansstuff-b2e No, because that puts stress on the frame. That's like dislocating your arm and knocking it back into the socket, sure it looks fine but there could be damage you don't know about.
7:27 this man is smart enough to know that if that chain snaps or comes off that block in any way, its gonna spring right at the truck and the back of the cab.
As anyone who knows anything about metal and towing said last video, steel is gonna bend, not snap, and people going over bumps while towing in a Cybertruck may be in for straight up frame snapping.
That was my main take away from both of these videos. The frame of that truck is aluminum. WTF??? I don't care about the rest of the vehicle, the core structure is made of a weak metal. I don't care that the doors can handle C4 if a bad pothole can shear the core structure.
@@JabulayaAluminum is not a "weak metal" lol. It just has different physical properties from steel. Think forged wheels vs steelies. Forged aluminum wheels are vastly stronger than steel wheels, but can still crack with a major impact while the steel is more likely to bend.
@@AlDim000 True, they have their own strengths and weaknesses. But look at those aluminum wheels you mention, they are FAR thicker than steel wheels for a reason. To have comparable tolerances to the stresses involved in these applications, you need a lot more aluminum than steel.
@@AlDim000 aluminum wheels are vastly thicker than steel wheels so that is not comparing apples to apples. Compare steel wheels to ali with the same thickness and then see which is more durable. Ali wheels are thicker to account for the differences in properties. The ali frame at the failure point on the CT is thin but the physical property that is the issue is casting. Be it steel or ali casting is brittle so the engineering has to allow for that, drop a cast steel item like Cody did the skyline cam and it shatters. A 747 wing is all ali and holds vast amount of fuel but is engineered correctly. It's an engineering oversight that Tesla can remedy, recalls and re-engineering happens all the time in automotive industry.
People after seeing the cybertruck durabilty test #1: 🤓Oh well if you dropped the ford on the hitch it would snap as well, you're just being biased and doing less to the f150. Cody: Drops F150 on concrete wall multiple times, makes f150 bend it's own frame and unbend itself💀Keep up the entertaining videos cody! We're all excited for durability test #2!
No their not lol, he dropped the whole weight of the truck onto the concrete impacting the hitch. That's not sobosed to be done and is the reason the hitch broke.
@@rafalpilat4229 it wasn’t just the hitch,it was the frame that broke meanwhile he did the same with the f150 over and over and the frame didn’t break it just got bent because it has a steel frame unlike the tesla that has an aluminum frame
As someone who works with a bunch of dumbasses, one who slammed a Chevy 2500HD into our loading dock at over 15 MPH backing up which resulted in ZERO frame damage but over 6 grand in cosmetic paneling, no way in hell would any normal work truck have its frame snap in half under any normal or even abnormal circumstance. Armchair analysts at their finest.
Rams are all over the place last few year with tacoed frames. This trucks frame damage was done in the previous video when he was jumping it and landed on the huge rock.
@@JayRSwan Where’s your source on that one? And are you not aware of how force multiplies with speed? A truck backing into a 5 foot tall cement loading dock with rebar through it at 15 MPH is more force than a truck being dropped on its hitch while driving from less than 10 feet in the air. Any work truck should easily be able to handle that kind of vertical force as they’re meant to be towing upwards of 10k LBS on sometimes awful road conditions. And for reference, the force exerted on the truck was so large it folded one of our 11,000 LBS tow hitches like a taco.
@ItsFactor I'm assuming you're also talking about a least a 3/4 ton truck, if not more? They have much bigger frames. The tesla is a 7500 lbs towing. That's basically an SUV, not an HD truck. Source for the tacoed rams? Just Google it or look around. I have 2 on my personal phone that I took of them in shops.
@@ItsFactor I'm assuming you're also talking about a least a 3/4 ton truck, if not more? The tesla is a 7500 lbs towing. That's basically an SUV, not an HD truck. Source for the tacoed rams? Just Google it or look around. I have 2 on my personal phone that I took of them in shops.
@@JayRSwan Tesla is advertising an 11,000 LBS tow rating, not 7500. It is directly comparing itself to HD work trucks, that is the market it sent initial prototypes to, and the focus of it's advertisements and specs.
It broke because when it fell it hit the concrete as he said but what he did not mention is that the tongue wight is only 1000 which the tongue weight is the core being pushed up. When a car well over 1000 pounds goes on the tongue weight, it will break. So they pushed it over its limits please copy and paste this I want more people to be informed
0:42 As a mechanical engineer, it's safer for a hitch to bend than to snap. You'll still have control of your trailer and can come to a safe stop. I get most of you like the cybertruck but just admit when you're wrong. Its just poorly engineered. Still, the concept is amazing and it looks awesome, just dont use it for truck purposes 😅
As a mechanical engineer you would understand tongue weight which is 1100 pounds. Or vertical pressure. Considering the weight of the cybertruck, the impact exceeded the threshold of its vertical limits. Under no circumstance would towing 11,000 lbs cause the frame to snap.
Over engineered, and then overlooked. I'm surprised that this made it all the way through production and certification without that being addressed. Surely the government safety standards certification is sound right? Just like everything else the government runs I suppose.
Within hours of the original video coming out on this, the amount of major disinformation from Elon D riders on twitter were trying their hardest to discredit and cancel WhistlinDiesel it was hilarious to watch unfold how mad they were.
This moron claimed he would subject both trucks to the same tests, and made absolutely no attempt to do so. Then he made this second video, and still refused to do so. But criticizing him for this is "major disinformation from Elon D riders". Uh huh.
Did you know that X was originally registered as a Digital Banking system in 1993 by Elon? look up the domain registration date on whois. I'll be putting out a video soon exposing Elon's lies and what he's really up to..... and no... he doesn't build rocket ships, or electric cars, or plan how to get us all to mars. He's a phony and I'm going to prove it. He has been "installed" by the global elite.
you can tell who rides elon from what they call Twitter, they either say X or use the 𝕏 unironically (they're also probably atleast a bit racist/homophobic because wuhhh woke)
You'd be huffing copium too if everyone told you the CT was garbo, but then you bought one for 120k anyway, and then found out it really is as garbo as they told you it was. Tesla is a religion for some people. Daddy Elon can do no wrong in their eyes.
This is good information. Cody‘s expertise in his field helps me in my field. I haven’t rescued a cyber truck yet, but I’m planning on getting it out in one piece when I do.
Can't wait to see the video. I hope it's got battery left to put it in whatever mode is required to free wheel. Maybe need to bring some way of putting charge in electric vehicles you recover.
Expertise? 😂 Dude's a TH-camr and making a killing from this entertaining but totally skewed video (and Ford but he'll deny that till the cows come home).
absolutely right, if you intend to yank on a stuck cybertrucks hitch, and it just rips the entire rear end of the frame out, thats going to be a very unhappy customer and insurance is gonna total their very expensive truck out.
The reason that most manufacturers don't "think outside the box" with pickup trucks is because they already know how to make pickup trucks. Elon literally tried reinventing something that already works--and made something that doesn't. 😂
The fact that the F150 straightened itself out without needing to spend $12,000 and many weeks getting repaired says a lot, especially when it drove away like nothing happened right after the fact.
@@goodgremlinmedia2757 watch the video before making false statements they prove wrong in the video. besides tongue weight deals with the downward pressure a trailer puts on the hitch, when the cyber truck broke it was towing a chain that was not putting any downward pressure on the hitch. The towing weight is more important and in the vid he explains the frame of the truck should have held up to way more than it was exposed to. mind you the towing capacity is 11k lbs and the wright of a Ford F150 is around 4-5k
@@FLPhotoCatcher driveshaft is one of the easiest things to replace. Try replacing the hitch/frame assembly on CT. Oh right, you can't! Even Tesla themselves can't do it.
@@FLPhotoCatcherthat’s a drive shaft and that’s what happens when they hit rocks like that, the frame is most important and that’s what Tesla clearly lacks
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If I were a Ford Executive I would issue a fat check to Cody.
Type
cody isn't fat at all why should he be checked?
Agreed.
@@halops117no
@@halops117 please tell me ur being stupid
now I wanna see two cybertrucks pull each other and see if they both will have their hitches broken
Cody told you so
Thats how baby teslas are born.
*From the repair bill:*
*$5,164.00 Customer states: Please make the vehicle drive and charge"*
they won't because they're doing truck pulls and are fine. You need to crack the aluminum, which requires excessive (read: over the limit) tongue weight.
Yes, steel will only bend. either way, they're doing what they're specced for + some
isn't that kinda like asking if hooking up two rubber bands together and pulling on them will cause them to both snap? i don't think that it's like in a video game where two people shoot at each other and happen to take each other out.
if i had to guess, i would think that one of the two is gonna break first, and then it will instantly relieve the pressure on the other and leave that one intact.
Ford unintentionally getting the best promotion ever
But not really. Only dummies are still buying U.S. built big three trucks and they don't learn lessons.
Yeahh lol
Ain't even promotion really, the f150 is already the most popular truck out there; it's just tesla that's getting publicly executed
it broke within 10 seconds in the last video. just shows its crap
Yeah just make a good product you stand behind
As a rock climber, I use aluminum carabiners to save weight on most pieces I place in the rock for protection. But when it’s going to be cross loaded or it’s a crucial piece I used a steel biner. Wanna guess why?
You want to live I guess?😂
Sorry, I gave you one more like and now its 70 instead of 69.
is it because a failed steel biner doesn't explode in half immediately?
Tell us why … they can deal with an incredible load …
To avoid brittle failure, which is sudden, as oppose to slower failure modes that give warning?
As an oilfield worker, and a commercial diver, I have done some HORRIBLE things to a ford truck. Not once has the frame ever snapped, or broke in half.
Well technically the cybertruck frame didn't snap "in half" either
The last 10% snapped off , 10% isn't half
Not 10%just 3%💀@@Cold_Cactus
People with 150s and campers man happens all the time
i put a F350 Super Duty into a deactivation ditch at 80km/hr while tree planting because i wasnt paying attention. bent the frame a smidge, was lucky i didnt set off the air bags. broke one of my planters waterbottles from the impact, no injuries to my planters as far as i know... we then drove that exact truck without any work done on it, for another 2.5 months 300km per day minimum, and upwards of 2300km in the last day...
i was one of the few drivers to not get my "truck bonus" of $500 because... i bent the frame a bit...
this video makes me think i shoulda just tried to straighten it myself...
@@Science.experiment248 if a was chain was 3% plastic you'd feel scammed
I like how Tesla used STEEL for the body to make it durable, but used ALUMINUM for the structural parts that are supposed to be durable...
Tesla management:
Hey , all premium manufacturers use aluminum instead of steel.
Tesla employee:
At what part?
Tesla management:
I guess it doesn`t matter , pick one.
they used aluminum to make it lighter so it didnt kill the battery steel is heavy aluminum is still heavy just not as heavy as steel.
I actually couldn't believe it😂
@@rockclimber1985 So they could just use aluminum where the friggin metal is *supposed* to break to avoid braking *you,* and use steel only where it is *not* supposed to break AKA your hitch.
Aslo Elon "We use steel for Starship, because aluminum is britile and non reusable"
7:54 Didn’t expect to see a vehicular chiropractor today. But here we are.
Congrats on getting pinned by whistlindiesel
Cody says "government-required electric trucks" but does the gov really require Cybertrucks, or other electric trucks? I don't think so.
haha. The fact that it started and drove was awesome.
Haha 😂
@@HighOctaneSpeedShop But the fact that the frame bent so much, is anti-awesome.
some tesla guy was telling me things are supposed to snap off when they reach their limits. this is why i make fun of tesla people
th-cam.com/video/gw-EXGqNlJ0/w-d-xo.html
Like the steering wheel in this bus? 🤪
yes things can snap of when they reach their limit, no the hitch cant be aluminum
Yeah, the links they will go to to avoid reconciliation with their ego.
As an engineer, the one thing that is possibly even more important than the capacity or load rating of a product, is the method of failure. The cybertruck frame coming apart like that, in such a brittle fashion, is completely unacceptable no matter what amount of force was applied to it. The ford frame bending is a failure method is much preferable
I'm an engineer and I approve of this message.
Also, genuinely curious which aluminum alloy Tesla uses.
Proof that you don't need to be smart to be an engineer in TH-cam comments
@@dmurray2978more so that you need to be even less smart to be a non-engineer in YT comments
@@dmurray2978 idk about TH-cam comments, but I am an engineer in real life. And if you think I’m wrong, then you clearly aren’t one
@@ruffryder13 the wrong alloy clearly lol
Tucker drove it in a circle in a dirt field and called it good. Cody beat the shit out of it and called it not good. WhistlinDiesel is my product standard specialist, no one else.
This video makes Tucker look like a paid shill
Tucker is a clown lmao
Tesla has the advantage here becuaae he used a cheap used base model f150 that doesn’t even have diff lock vs a 100k plus new Tesla
Tesla has the advantage here becuaae he used a cheap used base model f150 that doesn’t even have diff lock vs a 100k plus new Tesla
Because Tucker is a talking hairpiece. A propagandist. Cody actually tries to find failure points rather than pushing some narrative
Someone already pointed this out under one of the "debunking" videos, that by the very laws of physics both trucks were pulling on each other with equal force, but only the shitty one snapped in half.
How does this comment only have sub 200 upvotes? Crazy🤯
How does this comment have so few upvotes? Crazy 🤯
@@mattwhite22dudes so mindblown he had to comment twice 🤯
@@-Cellucor- dude thinks he is on reddit with his upvotes
Thunderdome! Two hitches enter, one hitch leaves!
"Elon" didn't design the rocket engine, a team of great engineers did.
Quick plug to add that the government poured all of the funding into rocket engines, taxpayer funding. Elon and SpaceX are beneficiaries of a colossal body of knowledge that simply couldn't be possible in today's social landscape. The government used to tax billionaires to pay for R&D to invent new technologies, now the government pays billionaires to take credit for the works of thousands of engineers, scientists, technicians, and all of the people along the way that make it happen.
"great engineers" not following established practices and the engine exploded. lol
He's a rich idea guy, that's it. I can't think of anything he's come up with that has actually been adopted in any meaningful way. Cybertruck is no exception, it's an eyesore and a danger to all on the road.
@@drcatboy9278 regardless of the cybertrash. What the engineers in spaceX have done with rockets is an innovation and it is atually good (by now). I understand hating on cybertrash since is a pure hype "truck" with some cool details to make it look more interesting but failing at basic things.
@@derflerp538he doesn't even have ideas unless you count thinking X is really cool as an idea. I'm pretty sure Ford did all the ground work for electric vehicls in the 80s but they killed the project for their oil buddies. Their engineers then left to found Tesla. Musk only showed up to buy stocks and later the company. I guess there is PayPal. He helped with that but he was fired from that for wanting to call it X. Reusable rocket tech was maximized by nasa with the space shuttle. Both nasa and the Russians cost the tax payer less for flights and nasa did the moon cheaper and better with slide rulers. The hyperloop is a vacuum train, a 200 year old idea and something he only pushed to kill an American high speed rail project in California, you know rail? A safe convenient and a actually functional mode transportation. I mean seriously name one idea Musk has ever had that is new and that an engineers couldn't debunk with a pen and napkin on his lunch break.
I'm legit surprised the other truck is still alive.
Beaten not defeated.
Are you taking some notes from cody?
Bro's ready to make his own destruction video☠️
Drop a cyber truck durability test please.
Ford Built Tough
The fact that the FRAME snapped faster than 3/8” chain is INSANE. There isn’t enough stupid names in the dictionary to call the people who don’t think so.
's because they are absolutely shit vehicles bordering on fraud. FFS the side panels are held on with double sided tape. FRAUD
facts, 3/8" is only good for 3000-7000ish lbs
If ur talking about the f150 it’s not crazy. The chain is lifting up X amount weight while the frame is taking the brunt force of X amount of weight on a drop it 2 different scenarios. If u had the chain do the same thing where you drop that weight but the chain stops the fall instead of the frame the chain would snap in half first try
@@tim8801stoopid the frame can only be applied to max force the chain can do before failing
@@techLiteracy_ no it’s two different forces. The frame is getting an abrupt blow while the chain is being used for a lift. If I lift a 500 pound weight with a chain it will be fine. If I drop the same weight and let it fall for like 50 feet and let the chain catch it it’s going to probably break, if not it’s taking a lot more damage than just holding the weight.
I can get infinite entertainment from people coping about your cyber truck durability test. “Your frame is part of the crumple zone” is probably one of the funniest things I’ve heard a human say
Tesla fans are embarrassing tbh. That brand doesn't have customers, it has cultists
@@Slaking_ Tesla is funded entirely by redditors
next its going to be "your legs are part of the crumple zone"
The frame is the crumple zone..
frame's are not crumple zones. sub-frames are.
Too much praise for Musk personally. He's more of a salesman or an investor than the person (or people) who actually made the innovations mentioned.
"look what Elon did to rocket engines" is the most simple man take ever! lolol Elon didn't do any of that.
Yeah seriously, Elon is g@y
Elon Musk likes to compare himself to Marvel's Tony Stark however I totally doubt the dude even know how to fix his own car without calling for assistance from others.
Nothing gets made at all without a visionary doesn't matter how good the engineers are.
He's a salesman not a visionary... @@VaunShiz
Nobody:
Ford:
Cody: Let's triple Ford's stock price
Haha you should look at Fords stock chart. It’s the same price it was 20 years ago. TWENTY
They better hope it works. The f150 hybrid got #3 for worst rated vehicles
@@EGGINFOOLSyeah because hybrid engines on a truck are dogshit
Jesus loves you! He died on the cross for you. Please don’t take chances with your soul.
Romans 10:9 KJV
@@papafamilias92010 Hey, I'm a financial worker and not trying to be the smart one but you are incorrect. If you look, you will see that the stock price with twenty years had actually changed from 2 dollars per share all the way to 21 dollars per share. Now it is at 7 and climbing!
“Beats the hell outta the truck with a whole excavator…”
“LOOK THE FRAME IS COMPLETELY STRAIGHT NOW!”
@@TipTopSnow bro fixed it on accident
It’s finally completed: th-cam.com/video/b9I_kkpVJlo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uwC2kXCbPq4B9e2p
LOL
Truck chiropractor
TH-cam mechanic searches "f150 bent frame fix"
This is the best Ford advertisement I've ever seen. Self straightening frame! Runs perfect!
He could slingshot the ford by the hitch and throw it. I would never believe it.
I hope you don't buy that car for your wife and kids. You can Bend steel, but it get week in that Point.
This car should not drive in thé Road anymore.
@@k20dude41 You think he's gonna drive that truck???? LOL
@@k20dude41 are you special needs? Like mentally? Genuinely
OK. But after that treatment that Truck would fail any inspection by an engineer. You will definitively find cracks and signs of nonelastic material deformation. Bring it to the German TÜV and it is game over. But the Cybertruck will never get an official approval in the EU due to the sharp edges and the massive overweight.
Cody is the type they would try to medicate as a kid, but he grew up to be so successful. ( Speaking from experience ) I'm happy for you man.
Cool, anti medical practice sentiment in the comments. Let me guess, aliens are real too?
@@gormauslander Nah man, they did it to me too, before autism was widely known they would just give us autistic kids in the early 2000s whatever drug would make us stop "misbehaving", it wasn't until 5th grade or so that I finally got my aspergers diagnosis, and hell, nowadays, that's just part of autism.
I wouldn't really call myself successful though, and also I doubt aliens are real either but if they were I'd probably try being friends with one.
Project Farm: Lawful Good
Motorweek: Neutral Good
Whistlin Diesel: Chaotic Good
@TH-camdeletedmycomment hahaha yes
@TH-camdeletedmycommentlink it pls I must see it immediately
Project Farm is great. He does REAL tests where he actually puts each thing being tested through the SAME tests, unlike this idiot. This is just Chaotic Stupid.
These bots aren't even coming close to making sense 🥴
@@TheZProtocol these bot comments are wild
Do people actually get mad that billion dollar companies get called out for flaws in their hundred thousand+++ dollar products?
some people are very invested in the idea that musk doesn't lie to them. 100k+ and 20 years invested in fact - and a lot of them got positive feedback about it by having invested into his speech a decade ago by buying stocks(that did well), so they got 'proof'.
once you're in that enough you start to ignore logic and don't ask questions why is supercruise now FSD, what happened to autopilot being able to drive without someone being in the car that you'd get as a software patch for a car you paid extra for when you bought a car 10 years ago etc.
musk has continuously lied about the state their lab version of autopilot is in for over a decade somehow without getting into (too much) trouble with the sec - he is GREAT at lobbying and getting funding but not so much in the technical stuff or truth.
Not only that but the thin skinned owners of said company like to throw the ban hammer when people on their Xitter criticise them. It''s all about free speech, just don't bad mouth mr exception to the rule or he will have a sook about it,
Yes, actual dumb people who make their items their identity
no, it's just the elon fanboy cult
@@lasskinn474 because Tesla Owners are in the cult of musk.
There are a bunch of old guy engineers at Ford watching this right now getting amped up shouting "I told you so! I Told em! I Told em to stick with what works! I KNEW it! YEAH!"
😂😂😂😂 while 👋 across the table to each other lol
...And of the other side, the Tesla engineers are crying themselves to sleep every night over failed promises on the Cybertruck.
OLE BOYS GONNA BE CRANKIN THEY'RE HOG TONITE HELL YEAH BRUTHER
in a sad yet wholesome way. this leans itself towards the sheby scene in the ford movie that ford jr himself wished his father was around to see this.. I feel it.
@@shuttlebug468 awh
Just a reminder, engineers make the rocket engines and Elon just throws money at people.
true elon is just the face of the company he probably never touched any of the engines
The most important thing he gives his engineers that nobody else has is engineering freedom..... the sky is limit
It's not even his money. SpaceX has a contract from NASA. NASA is funded by tax payers.
Elon is knowledgeable what are you on about
Anybody that has ever worked with elon says he has bad working condistion and is demanding. What freedom are you talking about @ryanlee6147
Steel bends, aluminum breaks
so what dos steeumium do?
@@SmickyD it breands
i think steel also breaks buddy
but does steel melt with jet fuel?
@@chrisw7188😂
This is the best Ford commercial that could ever be brought forth. Ford better be thanking a mural of Cody somewhere.
Before this series I had been holding the opinion that Ford had severely fallen off. No longer
100% exactly what I was thinking!
"Ford better be thanking a mural of Cody" 😂😂😂😂 I picture them just bowing to a giant mural
Even the new f150 work pickups have impressed me
Just bought an F150 last month. These videos definitely makes me feel good about my choice.
F150: Aluminum Body, Steel Frame
Cybertruck thinking outside the box: Steel Body, Aluminum Frame
BRUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doh
Probably just wanted to cut down the weight since the damn thing is already as heavy as 2 f150s. Probably just needs to switch to steel frames for the cybertruck and its good to go.
What about galvanic corrosion tho?
It’s most likely about cutting weight. But in the wrong places.
Frame made of plastic
Aluminum is great to use for a trailer to keep the weight down and increase trailer load capacity. It is not a good material for towing vehicle frame. The constant shock between the 2 vehicles is going to cause stress failures.
Every time I saw a comment about the cyber truck hitting the hitch on some concrete and the whole time I thought “do people not realize what people put other trucks through offroad? I mean they bash their hitches way harder than the cyber truck did.” So glad you made this video.
Remember that on a Cybertruck, "offroading" = driving through a gravel road and a small puddle
@@MrFastFox666buddy. They took the cyber truck to hells gate to test it for off-road in Moab. That is certainly not a puddle or gravel pit. That’s the hardest, or one of the hardest off road lines anyone could off-road. Sorry to say, but you are horribly horribly wrong. Fact check before you take a flight to yapperville
TOUNGE WEIGHT Maximum Tongue Weight* "1100 LB for the cybertruck" IT fell on the hitch a cybertruck weighs more than 1100 lbs!!!! If you drop a whole truck on the frame like that of course it will break.
That's a great point. Never once has Matt had to repair a cracked frame (from falling off a rock)
I've smacked the crap out of the rear hitch on my Unibody Jeep XJ. And pulled other vehicles out of sand and mud. It has yet to fall off. The Tesla fanboy cope has been wild.
8:48 can you do the rivian?
Rivian trucks are indestructible. Plus they’re way too expensive for whistlen to afford…….
@@chrism9069he bought a Ferrari
@@chrism9069rivian is less than the cyberstuck
@@chrism9069Damn are you in control of what he spends?
@@chrism9069He burned his Ferrari in a wheat field, and the cybertruck worth more than the rivian
Not to mention, when that chain got tight, the same amount of force was applied at both ends at the same time. F150 did not break and cyber truck did.
this.
THIIS!!
tHiS?
That?
Physics!
Just wait until you see my rocketships - Elongated Muskrat
Im not a ford guy by any means, but im really impressed with how well that F-150 handled all that abuse and kept driving in the end
to be honest i think most of the trucks would drive as well as they are build similarly
Being a Ford or Chevy guy in 2024 is retarded. Every single one is just as good as the orher, you’re literally choosing off looks now. In the 80s and before things were dog shit and even a brand new truck may not start always, so of course there were sides to choose. Chevy will stay ahead on reliability as the 5.3s from the early 2000s are all over the road still while the early 2000s fords are mostly dead. And if i were to be choosing a side I’d say i was a ford guy more than anything. But mainly because nobody else makes a $40,000 car that’ll hold 1200whp with an unopened block like the 5.0. Chevy would hold up just as well as this ford would in this test.
@@Jake-kb2le I think anything except Cyber truck could handle it.
It took more damage but was able to handle it better.
You should seee what top gear did to an old Hilux and it still ran.
Gradual failure vs sudden catastrophic failure is a major consideration in PROPER structural design.
That makes as much sense as Toyota voiding warranty if you have EVER driven faster than 85 mph.
@@Vamanos46 wtf are you talking about?
@@default3740 toyota has been claiming people voided their warranty on the gr86 by driving over 85mph and not warrantying the motors when they pop bc subaru (who build the motor for the gr86) hasnt made a decent power plant in 15 years. idk wtf that has to do with a cyber truck or the above comment but you know some people arent the sharpest spoon in the drawer
That's what I've been wondering since the beginning of Gigacasting. I'm not an expert in materials science, but as far as I know with cast metal, cast parts tend to break brittle, whereas the rolled sheet metal and profiles of conventional cars deform plastically before they break completely.
Most engineering design is related to the expected "normal use" of what it was purpose designed for. This idiot here makes no distinction between what is termed "normal loading" on any component, and what is termed "shock loading". You know pushing a nail with a hammer, versus hitting the nail with the hammer. Produces what it termed "a high amplitude load, of short duration", that can be many times the static load for that instant.
Cranes have this very same problem, you can have a 20 Ton crane and a 10 Ton load, and if the load drops (load brake failure etc.) it will break the crane boom like a pretzel. Any type of "shock load" will do this to anything, because it can be many times the amplitude of the standard "static" design load.
These guys doing this here have a lunatic world view about all things mechanical, total mechanical idiots. Musk did not help his case any by hammering the truck, and hitting it with bowling balls etc. suggesting that the truck was "indestructible". This does nothing but attract these "I'll prove you wrong" mentality idiots. Even military tanks are "destructible", just hit then with the right kind of "shock load" , which in military terminology is "AN EXPLOSION". (an extreme shock load)
Cody is unironically saving people's lives doing this. This EXTREMELY DANGEROUS problem wouldn't be as talked about if it wasn't for him.
Very dangerous. A loose trailer is nothing to play with. Agreed.
Yes I hope these never kill inocent people. Thank you Cody!!!
U just had to say unironically. Most brain rot word .... It started off in the nerd community trying to come off edgy etc. then it became copy n paste . Ppl kept saying it non stop over n over. Like a soundboard button. How to b original .. something ppl can't seem to fathom
@@jiffjifferson5365 you are not mentally stable
@@jiffjifferson5365 It's a word, bro
I genuinely think the cyber truck looks like a literal door stopper
From a legal standpoint, Tesla not responding is further proof of how serious of an issue this is. They do not want to be on the record admitting to knowledge of this when someone is inevitably injured/killed.
You took the outcome and worked backward. That is fallacy thinking...don't do it again.
Sounds like we have a Ford Pinto situation on our hands
It’s not a serious issue. Trucks aren’t designed to be dropped off huge concrete directly onto the bottom of the frame.
Tesla has never said the vertical rating for that frame was 7 ton. They’ve said it’s closer to 2.
Frame wouldn’t have snapped if the full weight of the truck didn’t slam into it from the bottom
@@liamjames2956Did you not see the part of the video where he showed it happen to someone else just driving down the highway…
They may be preparing to sue him. LOL
Fords gonna use this in a advertisement against Tesla 😂
Weighs less than the cybertruck lol
Tesla has the advantage here becuaae he used a cheap base model f150 that doesn’t even have diff lock vs a 100k plus new Tesla
So technically Ford has the advantage. It's way cheaper and works better. Lol. Tesla. More expensive and prone to break if it rains. Or goes off a cliff. What a bucket of shit.
100% :D
Fact's,one of the best on buying a Ford truck.
As an Aluminum Fabricator, I can tell you that, cast aluminum is absolutely not to be spec’d for structural componentry. There are a handful of manufacturers that make the engine block as a structural component (mostly motorcycles) but I tend to steer clear. While a towing capacity may be set at a certain amount, the shock loading from braking and bumps and potholes, can be many times that. That is the failure we saw. Cast aluminum shouldn’t have been used and with Tesla’s engineering team, they should have known better. All aluminum trailer manufacturers, use steel tongues that are thru-bolted, through the aluminum frame. BTW, those aluminum frames are extruded, not cast. Way different alloy and way different process. May as well be 2 different metals.
And the moment of inertia of that cross section, where it broke, is very low. Given the fatigue behaviour of aluminium alloys, yikes. I wouldn't call that the frame though, it's more of a bumper/hitch attachment.
Most cars have cast aluminium suspension parts, including large SUVs. So cast aluminium does have its uses.
@@MrPaukann 😅 bs
@@MrPaukanncast aluminum is junk when it.comes to taking force just like cast iron or anything cast .
@@RICHIE_RICH89, what's BS?
@@RICHIE_RICH89, anvills are typically cast.
0:18 the second last article 💀 (bro thought hes sneaky)
This whole time, had no clue “Sweet James” was a real attorney 💀
He does a bunch of radio advertisements in my city
Wait whaaat? This whole time I thought it was a joke ad but it's actually real 😂😂
don't really watch this diesel guy except for when the site recommends it and the title looks interesting, but i recently caught the other one with these trucks being tested and some other one with a merry go round with a jet engine, and i think i remember both of them having the little skit with this whole "if you recently passed away from mesothelioma, call blah blah to reach out to ambulance-chasers and money-sucking vampires and associates and they'll find a way to make some cash off your surviving relatives" lawyer thing and i definitely thought that it was a joke.
honestly i still think it's likely to be a joke upon a joke. there's no shot some dude like that would show up to be featured alongside what this diesel guy does. and the ridiculous most generic sounding name and phone number.. no way that is real, hahah
@@issadraco532 damn bro is yapping
I saw him on a tv ad in a restaurant a while back, I knew he was real then lmao
There is no longer any argument about fair treatment of the Cyber Truck. That thing is simply not capable of real truck stuff. It's for urban truck stuff.
They're for scrap yards. 7000 pound trucks with these many serious issues should not be anywhere near cities. If America had a functioning regulatory system Cybertrucks would not be street legal
I've started to use "cybertruck" and "mall-crawler" synonymously.
I think you mean suburban truck stuff. It's for people with more money than taste
It’s a hyper grocery getting!
It's an SUV with a bed. The Cybertruck competes with the Ridgeline, not the F-150
8:30 damn a recall on the freaking frame would be absolutely ridiculous
toyota did a frame swap recall over rust
anyone who thought a die cast aluminum frame was a good idea is a moron
@@m92quad55on what?
@@m92quad55 hey, it's only a rust related issue atleast
Especially since the cybertruck doesn't even have a frame. It is unibody. The entire truck would need to be recalled, and a new replacement given to customers. Much worse than Toyota and their frame fiasco.
I feel like Shia Labeouf on Hot Ones, when he told Sean “You’re really good at this, dawg.”, because man, you’re really good at this, dawg. The editing, the talking, the script, the gnarlyness👌🏾 suuuubbed lol
cody ducking while pulling the chain 7:29 is the safest ive ever seen him doing anything on this channel
bro is safety squinting being red misted
I think he was worried the airbag was going to deploy from a rear impact sensor
@GTFCEO no he was ducking in case the chain snapped and sent it flying back into the cab. People have died from using steel chains that have snapped or attaching recovery equipment to the ball and having that break free and become a lethal projectile.
@@Labyrinskyspicy baseball
@@GTFCEOso then pull the fuses ... He was 100% scared of that chain letting going as he should have been.
Exploding head makes great YT content. Once.
All he had to do is drop it twice to prove them wrong..cody went the extra mile to make sure they could not argue anything 🤣
U got a heart 😮
i like the fact that the video showed not only dropping it onto the frame, but also the very tip of the installed hitch where the leverage and force is much higher, and it still didn't break off. that to me is irrefutable evidences that a frame should never be made out of aluminum.
The weight of the f-150 is significantly less and 90% of that weight is on the front two tires because of the engine. The cyber Truck had 2-3 times the force coming down on that slab because the battery is spread across the whole truck. These tests are just stupid.
If he used a strap with some give instead of a chain with 0 - the tesla would have been fine.
Remember the topgear episode with the toyota trucks in the arctic? they used super elastic bungee straps to pull themselves out without destroying their frames.
@@Aaronalex117There actually people that drove on the highway and same rear frame snapped on them and lost trailer. Once I saw that cross section on his last video where it snapped and the fact it aluminum, it definitely a weak point and knew it going to be a issue.
He did infact brutally prove people wrong with a 90,000 pound excavator
And what did the 90,000 lbs have to do with any of these tests exactly? The boom, arm and bucket don't weigh anywhere near that, and that's all that were involved here.
And I love that it was to prove one idiot in the comments wrong by name.
@@kc550 Go suck some more billionaire D.
@@kc550 it had absolutely nothing to do with anything it's just funny to be hyper specific when you're being petty
@@kc550 One word "joke".
1:24 problem is he didn't do any of that lol
13 years ago Top Gear did their best to destroy a Toyota Hilux. They drowned it, smashed it, set it on fire and a host of other damage. Finally, they put it on top of a 22 story building that was about to be demolished with explosives. They dragged it off the rubble, started it and it drove.
you should watch this channel's hilux durability test lol
Arguably he subjected it to far worse
They did that 21 years ago. God we're getting old.
Drowned it in the sea 😅
On the cybertruck you just need to smash the door to break it.
One of the greatest episodes of Automotive history
Jet fuel can't melt Ford's steel frames.
My parents said if I hit 3k they'd buy me a professional camera begging you guys literally begging!!!😮
It melts aluminium though, and if you then add water you get a controlled demolition
@@Apnachannal1234fr no
Wasnt expecting you here
@@stephenw2992ain’t nothing controlled about an explosion expressly when you don’t know that mixing water with aluminum can cause said explosion
I work in QA, specifically with cast aluminum. Aluminum is great, it's an incredible metal, it literally changed the world, but it really likes to break when you push it too far. It's easier to break than glass in certain circumstances, it's more flexible than steel in certain circumstances, it's just so dang weird and the metallurgy is so complicated, stress/strain curves and all that stuff. But the steel frame bending all over the place and the cast aluminum frame breaking, is not surprising in the slightest to me.
I believe Tesla have the largest MIM machines in the world specifically to make frame components.
Nope it shouldn't be surprising to anyone that has dealt with cast aluminum its used everywhere like lower and upper control arms on most cars and trucks that hold the front wheel on and break offen from most impacts to the wheels
Also depended on the shape. They made the frame have those cross cross-sections for increased rigidity over reduced weight. But that means that instead of bending, it starts shearing the vertical parts because they can't stretch anymore. Then that shear creates a stress point for then to rip the whole thing off when pulled.
Steel car frames often have a box or U shape, when those bend they metal can move places without starting a shear fracture, making it even less likely to break than it already is based on the material.
@@3613jeremy mine just has a vanadium steel forged solid axle, they made 95 years ago... You can twist it like a pretzel, no breaking...
The aluminum alloys that have decent strength don't bend well, and the alloys that bend well don't have strength. Try bending 6061 like you would 3003.
this was very entertaining and interesting! though the idea of 'thinking outside the box' being an unalloyed good did make me giggle. sometimes the box is 'things that work' and thinking outside it is a terrible idea 🤣
Tesla: Drops on its hitch and the frame breaks
Ford: gets C4 blown up on the door, gets its frame bent and re-straightened by force and still drives like nothing ever happened.
“Built Ford tough”
Edit: wow i wake up today and this has 2.7k likes, most i have ever had, thanks everyone!
Ford definitely took the win, but I will say the only thing the cybertruck excelled on was taking the C4 like a champ
Literally reminds me of Top Gear trying to kill the Toyota Hilux but failed. That truck literally survives falling from a building, burned, taking an overnight bath in the sea and a trailer falling on top of the truck and yet it still wouldn't die.
Well 40 minutes later and this my most liked comment yet
@@MopedBeastDefinitely. But with the Cyber truck being as armored as it is like that.. The ford should not beat it in any way😅
hey whats that noise BOOM
The invoice literally says, "Customer states, 'Please make the vehicle run and drive'" 😂😂
not a bad price honestly
Checked his tire presure for free too!
@@juggernaut316I thought the price was reasonable too actually 😅
@@robotbro7187 The truck is physically unfixable because the entire frame is cast aluminum. There's no way to just reattach that rear section without modifying the rest of the frame to accept whatever new pieces will be bolted/welded on
@@the_frankc "without modifying the rest of the frame to accept whatever new pieces will be bolted/welded on" that might be what they have to come up with at tesla as a recall to retain the tow rating. the tow rating is just based on it's own power and weight anyhow though. it has the high tow rating because it's heavy as f, so they turned the being heavy into a sales spec, not that they imagined someone towing something weighing tons for thousands of miles.
Aluminium for a tow hitch sub frame is like carbon fibre for a submarine. 😂
I see what you did there.
Underrated comment🤣💯
Whoah, thats almost as low as the sub went.
The best comment on TH-cam today.
Both could be totally fine if you design it correctly. You only show that you have no idea what you are talking about and only repeat the dumb stuff other people say.
Tesla probably figured that no one was actually gonna tow anything with that piece of crap on a regular basis. 😂
The tires on that Ford truck deserve a purple heart
Why do I get the feeling the hitch was an after thought. Like, a literal 'one guy on the team' asking: "hey, um, don't trucks need to tow stuff?", and the team was like "fuuuuuuuuuuuuck". Then proceeded to slap a hitch on the frame.
😂😂
Underrated comment
thats exactly what happened. The whole design of this piece of sh*t started form a drawing Melon brought. Thats why it has terrible carbo space, no rear visibility, terrible side vision, terrible headspace in back seats, god awful side mirrors etc.
Because this truck started as a drawing and none of it could be changed, and it was never really meant ot be a truck, but a moving drawing Melon made. They had to guess which demographic would like to buy it and how to even promote it so it's very likely for half of the design process it wasn't seen as a pickup truck but suv.
@@Rab_Cee I still recall my first reaction to it: I thought it was a joke made of plywood and aluminum paint. My friend had to work to convince me it was real.
I can see all the ford executives calling an emergency meeting tomorrow to watch this. I can only imagine the joy on the faces in that room!
Nobody buying a CT was going to buy an f150
They finally got to experience a fraction of what Toyota executives enjoyed for all these years.
@@uap24 I was gonna say, for as much abuse as the F-150 has taken in these tests... There remains only ONE vehicle that Cody couldn't kill without dropping it from a helicopter. And he now has 3 of them to keep and preserve.
@@uap24I never see old Toyota on the road 💀 still see old ahh Ford and rare occasions old ahh Chevy
"ThE aLuMiNuM BoDy MaKes THe TrUcK wEaKer"
I simply cant imagine how it would feel to: be a cyber truck owner that left one of the comments on the last video and then be sitting here watching this
The CEO of Ford just enjoying the hell outta this😂
Mostly because idiots still buy 150's.
this might as well be a ford add.
Jim Farley doesn’t give a shit because it’s a big gas F-150 and not some electric Escape the size of a Chevy Bolt
@@ZachRijoni they have the F150 Lightning which is the same truck but electric so ..
crazy cuz musk will prolly love the vids too and the help on his product
Bent the truck, Bent it back. Still drives. Still has its frame. Are you fucking shitting me?💀🤣🤣
Perchance
The frame is much weaker after being bent so much twice. That unbending and driving it was just theater.
@@FLPhotoCatcher better than no frame 😂
@@FLPhotoCatcher you clearly did not get the point
@@_DaanP Did you watch the first video? The frame was still there, and he was still driving and testing the Cybertruck without the hitch. It was not bricked. And you see at about 13:00 on the first video, he had to admit about the Ford, "Built Ford weak".
You seem like a Ford fanboy.
I'm not a Ford OR Tesla fanboy, even though I own a Ford truck.
"Thinks outside the box" - Builds a box.
That's not a box. It's a triangle. So, mission accomplished. I guess.
@@plmn93 A stainless steel triangle with an aluminum frame going 80 down a highway, what could go wrong?
It's a box.
@@Blodhelm as an engineer. Use a heavier stronger metal as a shell for a weaker tighter metal frame. Usually you do the opposite. He's so "smart" lol.
This is literally the best pick-up commercial I have ever seen 😂
When you get the Cybertruck back and it breaks (again), you should hook it up to the excavator and drop it the same amount of times you did to the Ford in this video to find out if the Cybertruck breaks or bends.
He will get the cybertruck back, but they can't fix the broken frame it will have no hitch
@@Mecanic0_exehe got it back pretty quickly, actually - it’s fine other than the hitch.
Cyber truck will definitely explode. The lithium batteries will not last
@@Arunnn241 Dd you know that a combustion engine vehicle is more likely to explode than an EV?
Well yeah that makes sense if a fuel tank is punctured or a fuel line breaks but a lithium battery fire is a lot more aggressive and burns much hotter so you more then likely have less time to escape from an electric vehicle @stevelabree497
There's a reason other truck companies are not thinking outside the box and you're proving it with this video.
Elon out here innovating by inventing the non-crumple zone and the brittle-failure alu truck frame. Now that's out of the box thinking. The label on said box being 'functioning technology'.
Futuristic is one word for it, regressive, also another word for it
To be fair, Tesla said only that the Cybertruck would tow 11,000 pounds. They never said how far.
ooooo i think you're on to something the cybertruck did tow that weight so its not wrong
Sure on a straight safe and completely horizontal road with no bumps or cracks
Or what would happen to the truck as a result lmfao
it's the kind of double-speak I now expect from Elon!
They also never specified vertically :D :D
0:13 “Notorious car abuser”
The most wild part of this video is that Cody still calls the Cybertruck innovative after showing it fail at the most basic function of a truck. Anyone can “think outside the box” and make stupid shit. Real innovation is when the product is different *and better*.
Yeah, that was some wish-washy butt-kissing levels of cope. Quite put me off even watching.
It is an innovative way of separating people and their money for a terrrible product. (My own opinion)
I thought he was being sarcastic, honestly. I'm with you... Tesla is not innovative. They just made the same stuff we already have, but cheaper and less durable, and somehow at a higher price point.
We have a '47 that my granddad bought after the war, and it still runs. We loan it out for the high school kids' parade every year, and it still gets work as a hose cart. There won't be a single Tesla from today that is still driveable and n 2101.
Also, Elon hasn't invented shit, the things being done at space x and elsewhere are done by real engineers and scientists.
yeah, it wasn;t sure if he was being sarcastic or just trying to kiss ass, why call barbage something else?
Meanwhile the Toyota Hilux:
"Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power"
i wish we could witness it next time
You hook Hilux to a boulder.
Boulder snaps in half.
land cruiser serie 70 vendría siendo como tanos
@@freddygarcia3049 Use english for the love of god
@@BrorGertrud ok. But so many usa people will scape to south when the war touch the land. Know some spanish woud be critical
My dad told me when I was a kid that a hitch from a tractor trailer couldn’t break. It’s not engineered to break. But under incredible weight and heat it will bend. I wanted to know how such a tiny thing could be the centerpiece to something big like a tractor trailer combination.
So with that said This is old knowledge. And it’s crazy how many GUYS are in this comment section with none of that knowledge. Thanks to Cody to show us what are Dads were supposed to.
its just crazy to me there a still people meat riding tesla in the replies, there are fewer of them but still, this is a serious issue (not you), saw someone say the test is dumb because the ford has an engine LMAO 💀
That's about 50% true, the whole truth being more than your mind is capable of comprehending. Bend it enough times and it will work harden and then break. All materials fatigue.
Well said, unfortunately science is never required for high school students, so this will never change.
@LupusMechanicus but not on the first twist like the truck fridge
@LupusMechanicus the cybertruck is sold fatigued I guess 😂
I know all of Cody’s stress is relieved ever time he does these videos😂
21 million views in two weeks is really impressive. The ultimate Cybertruck review.
My parents said if I hit 3k they'd buy me a professional camera begging you guys literally begging!!!😢
@@Apnachannal1234 Piss off 😂
Elon reasoning… let’s make the body steel because it’s more durable than aluminum… but let’s make the frame aluminum because it’s lightweight 😀👍
Couldn't have said it better. LOL. And in general, I like what Elon is doing, but sometimes....
But not mostly because it's lightweight, but because it's faster to manufacture; 70 parts reduced to just one part in under 60 seconds, instead of several hours. And it's more rigid than equivalent weight in steel, equating to a stiffer chassis. Though this failure point should be easily avoidable with a redesigned giga-casting with a significantly more substantial structure for the tow hitch mounting point.
elons making cars all look lol
@@axiomicgiga casting, you're a joke
@cucuawe465
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga_Press
This was a huge plate of "shut the fuck up" served to Cybertruck stans.
I love the cyber truck!
@@canieto1 you prob also like men
@user-tb1gq8et2b nothing wrong with that 😂
@@BENXIE-p6pcyber truck looks like a toaster oven go ford 😂
@@canieto1 liberal
Elon bros are hilarious. Elon didn’t engineer a single part on the Falcon engines. Stop giving him credit. The talented engineers that actually design these things are the ones to give congratulations to.
@BiffTannenBTTF You don't even know what the engine is, so why are you acting like you have any clue who was involved? Falcon uses Merlins, the pic he showed was of Raptor. Stop lying about things just because you don't like someone.
Do you have any opinions that didn’t come from watching CNN?
Bruh. Are you seriously telling me that Elon is a rocket scientist?@@damien9915
Funny little words "Fatigue life limit" Steel when flexed below a certain amount of stress has an unlimited fatigue life. (I.e. think of the minor flexing the frame does as a hitch pulls a trailer and you go over bumps, accelerate, decelerate, etc) Aluminum does not. Aluminum has a finite fatigue life. The less you flex it the longer it lasts, but it still slowly fatigues the material till it fails eventually. If you load the cyber truck up with a max limit trailer, and haul it every day for a landscaping business or something... Well, just make sure your insurance covers the value of the things in the trailer and the liability.
Aluminum work hardens, and I'm guessing that's probably the state the subframe was already in, as I'm pretty sure the subframes are die stamped aluminum.
You'd think someone who owns an aerospace company would understand this, the aircraft industry has known this for decades.
@@jacobm2625cast
looking into this a bit, your kinda close, its not so much flex but stress put into the material.
so, with steel you can apply and remove up to a certain limit of force to steel an infinite amount of time and it will not fail, while it appears with any amount of force repeatedly applied to aluminum will eventually cause it to fail.
(edit: note the force applied may or may not cause the material to visibly flex)
Steel does NOT have an infinite fatigue life. Even at loading below yield, steel will eventually develop cracks after thousands or millions of repetitions. In steel bridge designs or gantry crane support systems fatigue limit states are evaluated in addition to static loads we design for. Examples of this are the cracks in the Memphis I-40 bridge super structure. I have also seen cracks in massive steel beams in loadout structures in practice.
I do agree though, comparatively aluminum is a very brittle metal.
Ford - Soft on the outside hard on the inside
Cybertruck - Hard on the outside soft on the inside
it's evolving, just backwards.
The difference between a porcupine and a cybershite is the pricks are on the inside of the cyberdump.
The ford has internal skeleton the tesla has exoskeleton
The cybertruck is suffering from Carcinisation. It is trying to become a crab just like all other life.
That is part of the plan, after all.
Oh.
Sorry, wrong place.
Tesla gon make a square wheel next.
I think we can still genuinely say "Built Ford tough" after this video
Ford 💩
Ford Ford they're the best drive a mile walk the rest.
@@commandandconquer6303 but if you happen to run into an angry excavator operator, it seems you'll be fine, just bend that frame back into place
@@beansstuff-b2e No, because that puts stress on the frame. That's like dislocating your arm and knocking it back into the socket, sure it looks fine but there could be damage you don't know about.
Ford is garbage but I'd never drive an EV,much less a cyber truck...
7:27 this man is smart enough to know that if that chain snaps or comes off that block in any way, its gonna spring right at the truck and the back of the cab.
As anyone who knows anything about metal and towing said last video, steel is gonna bend, not snap, and people going over bumps while towing in a Cybertruck may be in for straight up frame snapping.
That was my main take away from both of these videos. The frame of that truck is aluminum. WTF??? I don't care about the rest of the vehicle, the core structure is made of a weak metal. I don't care that the doors can handle C4 if a bad pothole can shear the core structure.
@@JabulayaAluminum is not a "weak metal" lol. It just has different physical properties from steel. Think forged wheels vs steelies. Forged aluminum wheels are vastly stronger than steel wheels, but can still crack with a major impact while the steel is more likely to bend.
Especially cast aluminum. Billet or forged aluminum will bend some, not as much as steel though.
@@AlDim000 True, they have their own strengths and weaknesses. But look at those aluminum wheels you mention, they are FAR thicker than steel wheels for a reason. To have comparable tolerances to the stresses involved in these applications, you need a lot more aluminum than steel.
@@AlDim000 aluminum wheels are vastly thicker than steel wheels so that is not comparing apples to apples. Compare steel wheels to ali with the same thickness and then see which is more durable. Ali wheels are thicker to account for the differences in properties. The ali frame at the failure point on the CT is thin but the physical property that is the issue is casting. Be it steel or ali casting is brittle so the engineering has to allow for that, drop a cast steel item like Cody did the skyline cam and it shatters. A 747 wing is all ali and holds vast amount of fuel but is engineered correctly. It's an engineering oversight that Tesla can remedy, recalls and re-engineering happens all the time in automotive industry.
People after seeing the cybertruck durabilty test #1: 🤓Oh well if you dropped the ford on the hitch it would snap as well, you're just being biased and doing less to the f150. Cody: Drops F150 on concrete wall multiple times, makes f150 bend it's own frame and unbend itself💀Keep up the entertaining videos cody! We're all excited for durability test #2!
It ain't durability test but destruction test
@@morganfreeman6887 😂real
Tesla Cybertruck: The Little Toaster That Couldn’t
That's an insult to toasters at least they toast bread.
😂😂@@denis921
"i know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on earth"
-melon husk
"Elon thinks outside the box."
So did Stockton Rush.
This is Clarkson destroying the Hilux level of deranged testing.
And I love it
Hilux frame was deformed but intact after they dropped a building on it iirc
@@Cruzcamp0 It was on top of the building so just rode it down. Still far more durable than a cybertruck though.
glad to have diesel to take over and do some real top gear stuff!!
@@Cruzcamp0it snapped the cab was holding it together
tesla community been real quiet since this vid dropped
They try to make people forget about this
god i wish they were
No their not lol, he dropped the whole weight of the truck onto the concrete impacting the hitch. That's not sobosed to be done and is the reason the hitch broke.
@@rafalpilat4229 it wasn’t just the hitch,it was the frame that broke meanwhile he did the same with the f150 over and over and the frame didn’t break it just got bent because it has a steel frame unlike the tesla that has an aluminum frame
@@sorrow9923 Yea, well, your not sobosed to drop a car like that, that's all there is to it
As someone who works with a bunch of dumbasses, one who slammed a Chevy 2500HD into our loading dock at over 15 MPH backing up which resulted in ZERO frame damage but over 6 grand in cosmetic paneling, no way in hell would any normal work truck have its frame snap in half under any normal or even abnormal circumstance. Armchair analysts at their finest.
Rams are all over the place last few year with tacoed frames. This trucks frame damage was done in the previous video when he was jumping it and landed on the huge rock.
@@JayRSwan Where’s your source on that one? And are you not aware of how force multiplies with speed? A truck backing into a 5 foot tall cement loading dock with rebar through it at 15 MPH is more force than a truck being dropped on its hitch while driving from less than 10 feet in the air. Any work truck should easily be able to handle that kind of vertical force as they’re meant to be towing upwards of 10k LBS on sometimes awful road conditions.
And for reference, the force exerted on the truck was so large it folded one of our 11,000 LBS tow hitches like a taco.
@ItsFactor I'm assuming you're also talking about a least a 3/4 ton truck, if not more? They have much bigger frames. The tesla is a 7500 lbs towing. That's basically an SUV, not an HD truck. Source for the tacoed rams? Just Google it or look around. I have 2 on my personal phone that I took of them in shops.
@@ItsFactor I'm assuming you're also talking about a least a 3/4 ton truck, if not more? The tesla is a 7500 lbs towing. That's basically an SUV, not an HD truck. Source for the tacoed rams? Just Google it or look around. I have 2 on my personal phone that I took of them in shops.
@@JayRSwan Tesla is advertising an 11,000 LBS tow rating, not 7500. It is directly comparing itself to HD work trucks, that is the market it sent initial prototypes to, and the focus of it's advertisements and specs.
Ive never wanted a part two to something so badly. Hopefully, Elon wasnt going to protect Taylor's cats in a trailer attached to a Cybertruck.
I think Ford and Tesla need to get Whistlin diesel to durability test their products before they are released to the public
It broke because when it fell it hit the concrete as he said but what he did not mention is that the tongue wight is only 1000 which the tongue weight is the core being pushed up. When a car well over 1000 pounds goes on the tongue weight, it will break. So they pushed it over its limits please copy and paste this I want more people to be informed
@@Exertvr yappatron 5000
@@derykheroldlol
@@Exertvr 🤓🤓🤓
@@ExertvrGet off Elon's knob and accept it's a failure bro
0:42 As a mechanical engineer, it's safer for a hitch to bend than to snap. You'll still have control of your trailer and can come to a safe stop. I get most of you like the cybertruck but just admit when you're wrong. Its just poorly engineered. Still, the concept is amazing and it looks awesome, just dont use it for truck purposes 😅
As a mechanical engineer you would understand tongue weight which is 1100 pounds. Or vertical pressure. Considering the weight of the cybertruck, the impact exceeded the threshold of its vertical limits. Under no circumstance would towing 11,000 lbs cause the frame to snap.
Over engineered, and then overlooked. I'm surprised that this made it all the way through production and certification without that being addressed. Surely the government safety standards certification is sound right? Just like everything else the government runs I suppose.
@@ITRIEDEL Mans never hit an indiana pothole.
As a person with a little bit of common sense. It's safer for a hitch to bend than snap.
@@ITRIEDEL it should bend not break
Within hours of the original video coming out on this, the amount of major disinformation from Elon D riders on twitter were trying their hardest to discredit and cancel WhistlinDiesel it was hilarious to watch unfold how mad they were.
This moron claimed he would subject both trucks to the same tests, and made absolutely no attempt to do so. Then he made this second video, and still refused to do so.
But criticizing him for this is "major disinformation from Elon D riders".
Uh huh.
But X is the only place for truth isn’t it?
oh 100% bro, the amount of stupid arguments I got into with Cybersimps was insane
Did you know that X was originally registered as a Digital Banking system in 1993 by Elon? look up the domain registration date on whois. I'll be putting out a video soon exposing Elon's lies and what he's really up to..... and no... he doesn't build rocket ships, or electric cars, or plan how to get us all to mars. He's a phony and I'm going to prove it. He has been "installed" by the global elite.
you can tell who rides elon from what they call Twitter, they either say X or use the 𝕏 unironically (they're also probably atleast a bit racist/homophobic because wuhhh woke)
You know the f-150 is built "Ford though" when the whole frame bends but the hitch doesn't come of after dropping it 30 times on concrete
I still cant understand why are people still defending the cybertruck and them saying that the damage was done on purpose.
You'd be huffing copium too if everyone told you the CT was garbo, but then you bought one for 120k anyway, and then found out it really is as garbo as they told you it was.
Tesla is a religion for some people. Daddy Elon can do no wrong in their eyes.
Fanboys.
@daminox Elon musk is a CON MAN and so many people are blind to it
I mean, tbf, the damage was *definitely* done on purpose. But it wasn't just for the cybertruck. He abuses all the things.
its how they cope.
2 things to take away from this video:
1. tesla is just a shit box with sharp edges
2. number 1
sounds legit...and its slow as well, you could easily beat it in a drag race
😂
@@whatyoudo9773 Apparently it's faster if you have a Porsche pushing it along.
Cyber truck
But also a Cybertruck can take a C4 blast like a beastttt but nothing else
This is good information.
Cody‘s expertise in his field helps me in my field.
I haven’t rescued a cyber truck yet, but I’m planning on getting it out in one piece when I do.
Seems like it'd be pretty catastrophic if a Cybertruck hit the hitch on a large rock or something before getting stuck.
Can't wait to see the video. I hope it's got battery left to put it in whatever mode is required to free wheel. Maybe need to bring some way of putting charge in electric vehicles you recover.
Expertise? 😂 Dude's a TH-camr and making a killing from this entertaining but totally skewed video (and Ford but he'll deny that till the cows come home).
absolutely right, if you intend to yank on a stuck cybertrucks hitch, and it just rips the entire rear end of the frame out, thats going to be a very unhappy customer and insurance is gonna total their very expensive truck out.
Yes,,,and WINTER IS COMING!!! You ready?
The reason that most manufacturers don't "think outside the box" with pickup trucks is because they already know how to make pickup trucks. Elon literally tried reinventing something that already works--and made something that doesn't. 😂
The fact that the F150 straightened itself out without needing to spend $12,000 and many weeks getting repaired says a lot, especially when it drove away like nothing happened right after the fact.
12000$ and they didnt even fix the bumper cody said!
@@Owenthewinna By bumper, you mean frame right?.... How often are frames being replaced in the US without costing more then the price of a new car
They spent 12 grand and still have a broken truck😂
and thats with the fact his Cybertruck is still going to be missing its bumper
Under one hour gagn claim your spot
The fact the frame snapped in the last video just blows my mind! Stoked to see whatcha got in this one!
The force exceeded the tongue weight capacity of the hitch. By a lot.
@@goodgremlinmedia2757still a piece of shit truck
@@goodgremlinmedia2757How are you still trying to defend it bruh
@@thegeneral1955 because you're stupid
@@goodgremlinmedia2757 watch the video before making false statements they prove wrong in the video. besides tongue weight deals with the downward pressure a trailer puts on the hitch, when the cyber truck broke it was towing a chain that was not putting any downward pressure on the hitch. The towing weight is more important and in the vid he explains the frame of the truck should have held up to way more than it was exposed to. mind you the towing capacity is 11k lbs and the wright of a Ford F150 is around 4-5k
Could we all agree that the F-150 really is “Built Ford Tough”? Damn it has took one hell of a beating!
No, the drive shaft broke just from high-centering on the trailer. (Watch WD's other Cybertruck video).
Not nearly as tough as the hilux.
@@FLPhotoCatcher driveshaft is one of the easiest things to replace. Try replacing the hitch/frame assembly on CT. Oh right, you can't! Even Tesla themselves can't do it.
@@FLPhotoCatcherthat’s a drive shaft and that’s what happens when they hit rocks like that, the frame is most important and that’s what Tesla clearly lacks
@@louisbarningham almmost every ute or "truck" runs steel chasis its not a ford thing.
Frikken A man!!
How you keep fresh content takes a genius, especially in this field of work. Good on yah brudder!!
Cheers from Newfoundland