I see lots of people are confused, as usual, by the tuning. There was no "standard" for tuning in the baroque era, however, as a rule of thumb, chamber pitch for secular music was generally about a half note lower than today. Church music, on the other hand, was tuned to the organ, and organs back then were usually noticeably higher in pitch than chamber instruments. They were singing in the right key, it's just that the choir pitch of the organ is a note higher than today.
Bach und Buxtehude haben auch einander gehilft! Buxtehude hat in Dänemark gewohnt und der Bach hat ihn dabei besucht :) Gibts doch keine warum nicht die beide hören.
Maybe. Wasn't it originally a secular tune, "Flora, mein Freude"? Or did Crueger write that? However it began, it's a lovely tune, and Buxtehude does fine things with it.
I admire your dedication in preserving the treasure that is music like this! I have very little experience with classical music, but I have the interest and I¨m starting to listen more. I heard a beautiful church concert some years back of Stabat Mater Dolorosa. Now I want to listen to it, but I'm a bit confused. Can you say there's a definitive version? I'm just wondering where to start?
I did some research. The TEXT is based on the popular song "Flora, meine Freude," not the tune. Presumably the song had another tune, and the tune for "Jesu, Meine Freude" is reminiscent of other Crueger tunes, though one of his best. So I was mistaken here.
Oh, I must admit that I don't know exactly. In my church song book is written only about Crueger. Usually, if the tune has secular roots, they mention this. But this is a very interesting question.
Of course, Buxtehude's E minor would have been a semitone lower than to-day's E minor, as if there weren't enough to make a musician's head spin. Great video, however.
well, you know i suppose it would be difficult to give good examples. I suppose the only reason i thought that was because when my college choir lost its tenor section, all we played were SAB arrangements. and we had mozart and some people like that.
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I see lots of people are confused, as usual, by the tuning. There was no "standard" for tuning in the baroque era, however, as a rule of thumb, chamber pitch for secular music was generally about a half note lower than today. Church music, on the other hand, was tuned to the organ, and organs back then were usually noticeably higher in pitch than chamber instruments. They were singing in the right key, it's just that the choir pitch of the organ is a note higher than today.
Si la Iglesia fuera así como lo muestra este video, yo iría todos los domingos.
Das ist unglaublich schön... Ich habe etwas von Buxtehude in einem Konzert in Mailand gehört. Einfach ausgezeichnet.
It's a great idea to represent a performance with the score! Many thanks!
Thank you.
Bach und Buxtehude haben auch einander gehilft! Buxtehude hat in Dänemark gewohnt und der Bach hat ihn dabei besucht :) Gibts doch keine warum nicht die beide hören.
Maybe. Wasn't it originally a secular tune, "Flora, mein Freude"? Or did Crueger write that? However it began, it's a lovely tune, and Buxtehude does fine things with it.
The author of the original tune is Johann Crueger :)
I admire your dedication in preserving the treasure that is music like this! I have very little experience with classical music, but I have the interest and I¨m starting to listen more. I heard a beautiful church concert some years back of Stabat Mater Dolorosa. Now I want to listen to it, but I'm a bit confused. Can you say there's a definitive version? I'm just wondering where to start?
Beautiful. Try some time to listen to the first piece on this CD: "Ich habe Lust ab zu scheiden um bei Christo zu sein".
I did some research. The TEXT is based on the popular song "Flora, meine Freude," not the tune. Presumably the song had another tune, and the tune for "Jesu, Meine Freude" is reminiscent of other Crueger tunes, though one of his best. So I was mistaken here.
Oh, I must admit that I don't know exactly. In my church song book is written only about Crueger. Usually, if the tune has secular roots, they mention this.
But this is a very interesting question.
It is only trio I know, which is dedicated to soprano, alto and bass :-D
Вот откуда столько силы у Баха!
+Vsevolod Pushkaryov Amen!
Emma Kirkby, Suzie Leblanc; Peter Harvey: The Purcell Quartet - Buxtehude: Sacred Cantatas
And from whom did Buxtehude learned his art?
Of course, Buxtehude's E minor would have been a semitone lower than to-day's E minor, as if there weren't enough to make a musician's head spin. Great video, however.
negative, the G clef is on second line, like F clef and the tune is on 415hz not 440hz.
Buxtehude ist sicher nicht schlechter als Bach :-)
Man soll die zwei nie gegeneinander ausspielen!
Yes? For example?
well, you know i suppose it would be difficult to give good examples. I suppose the only reason i thought that was because when my college choir lost its tenor section, all we played were SAB arrangements. and we had mozart and some people like that.
the partiture is different from the sound...How we can see, the tone in sound is 1 tone over...
I wouldnt know about Crueger, but we know that if it was one of Luther's Hymns it was secular in origin.
Exactly as I said in the description... The score is in D minor, the recording is in original E minor..
wow really? i thought all trios of the day were SAB
Hmmm... Bach cribbed a bit from Buxtehude, for example the rests after "nichts... nichts"
o my god bach s jesu meine plagiat LoL
Qualsiasi aggettivo sarebbe inesatto. E' comunque un compositore troppo poco noto in proporzione al suo valore.