Heartstopper Cast REACTS To Sebastian Croft Leaving The Show!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2023
- Not long after the premiere of the long-awaited season 2 of Heartstopper, one of the main cast called it quits and won’t return to the show. But what’s the reason for Sebastian Croft's departure and what were the reactions of his co-stars? Stay with us and subscribe to Bopping for more interesting Heartstopper Season 2 content.
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I won’t miss Ben but I’ll miss Bash sm 😭
Bash?
@@aesthetic_xplr5189 it’s short for Sebastian
It’s such a weird duality: seeing/loathing Ben on screen in the show…then seeing Bash online being such a sweetheart
Yes
Kudos to Sebastian for playing a complex, Hated character so well!
Sebastian is an INCREDIBLE actor. His portrayal of Ben was so convincing. He’s so so talented and I hate that people are bullying him because he played a negative character. Even if Sebastian and Joe are dating, WHO CARES?! It’s none of our business…if they’re happy that’s all that matters
FACTS THANK YOU
THEY ARE DATING????
@@mintychipa1248it’s a rumour but people don’t know that as they don’t share everything
Are they still dating?? Or do we not know
Sebastian is fabulous and I'm certainly a Croftie now. I'm going to go back and watch some of his other projects like those episodes of Game of Thrones he was in. Also looking forward to his future projects. I just hope he makes sure not to let anti-fans get him down, and doesn't let the game go soft.
Calling Ben a horrible person is so ridiculous. He's a minor, a child, still undeveloped. Humans are complex creators; not usually completely evil or good. The character of Ben is also a member of the community and a child during the story. Demonizing him is wrong. And he does deserve a redemption arc.
Hard to see it this wau, but yes, maybe Ben does deserve a redemption arc... Above all, great job, Sebastian.
you can feel sympathy for him but we also have to hold him accountable for his actions, he literally sexualy assaulted Charlie, is not Charlie's responsibility to forgive him, the best we can do is wait for someone to help him out
Sexual assault and domestic abuse at 15-16 years of age is inexcusable. You are old enough at that age to understand boundaries and consent. Ben isn’t just a prick like Harry he is a genuinely evil and abhorrent person. Just because Ben is an LGBTQIA+ character doesn’t make him any less of an asshole, his sexual orientation shouldn’t be some magic touch that makes his actions any less awful, it is good to show that just because you are LGBTQIA+ doesn’t mean that you can’t still be awful.
Yes.. clearly he has been really hurt in his life. Treating him with no sympathy only compounds that trauma. I do not hate Ben
Bash did an amazing job! I really hate Ben, and I know Ben is struggling, I think it would be amazing someone gives him a extended life in another story... We need to star guide the lives of those who struggles that much.
Sebastian is a great actor, I must add.
Ben has an extended story in Solitaire which I recommend reading. Read it and then come back and say again you want Ben back in the show.
I'll miss Sebastian he played Ben so well, I wish him well with any future endeavours
It was good to see the show explain what Ben's problems were. It's hard to grow up the way he explained to Charlie. I felt really sorry for him.
I find it sad also that his character could not carry on and perhaps have a happy ending. I most probably won't watch season 3
Did you read Solitaire? A must read for every single one thinking Ben should come back. I'm glad he doesn't, I couldn't endure seeing these scenes from Solitaire acted out on screen. Just reading them, they make me physically sick.
i feel a bit bad that his parents don’t accept him, but that doesn’t excuse his manipulative, self conceited behaviour. also, he treated imogen terribly, even tho he was in a straight relationship with her, therefore he can’t blame it on his unsupportive parents lmao
His personality is formed in part by the way his parents have brought him up and treated him on a psychological level and I suspect they have changed the way his mind has formed some of it is obviously being scared of them you are correct he should not carry on like that but if people are not helped they could become much worse in later life.@@idonthavealife4615
I feel like assuming they're dating is almost as bad as forcing kit to come out. celebrities have feelings too and deserve to have privacy. if they actually had a video or post admitting it then it would be acceptable but otherwise, leave them alone.
The difference between their obvious canoodling in public to them not speaking to each other anymore makes it pretty clear what happened. They don’t owe us anything, but we do have eyes. If they wanted to keep their relationship a secret, that’s totally fine, but then maybe they shouldn’t have been so obvious about it. I’m not judging them, just saying that would have been a better strategy for them. They are public figures now and there is a whole industry around celebrity gossip. Not saying it’s right, but that’s the reality and that will never change. It’s human nature to be nosy. lol
No one should sympathise with Ben. We’ve all been closeted and left out, that does not justify committing sexual assault.
You can sympathize with Ben while still condeming the things he has done that were harmful.
Agree, Ben's problematic, he didn't just have a problem with his sensuality. He hurts people, uses people, he's a narcissist.
you can sympathize and not forgive. Internal homophobia is no joke but it does not forgive sexual assault
Understanding and forgiveness dosen't equals justification. People who suffered, make other people suffer. It's not fair but this is how it goes and if we don't show more mercy, than it will continue. Don't get me wrong. Everyone is responsible for their horrible acts. But let's for example just take a deeper look into Ben and Charlie's story. The fact that Charlie can't forgive Ben, indicates that Charlie is pretty far from healing and accepting himself. It's not a sign of self confidence and courage. It's a sign of insecurity and the lack of internal peace, wich Charlie tries to hide behind his "perfect" relationship with Nick. Charlie had a chance to finally show some emotional strength, to finally overcome his pain and help sombody, who is desperately crying for help. Charlie refused this chance. As it turns out from this video, this was Charlies last chance and it was a conscious decision from the creators of the show to make it like this. This is the worst message, they can send to the LGBT kids of the world. No mercy, no forgiveness, no healing. Don't you try to understand other people's difficulties! And never ever try to help them becoming a better person! Go, run away to your little house of cards, wich you call "safe space" and don't let anybody in!
@@bencekovacs4765 I’m not reading that, and I still don’t have to have understanding or forgiveness for a sexual abuser
If you pay attention to any of these shows, even Queer Eye, it’s quite common for cast members to act like a couple in public to help promote the show. It’s probably in their contracts somewhere. I don’t doubt they’re all close friends tho
It makes me SO mad when "fans" are being just pure as*holes. If someone's dating, let them be, they don't owe you any information of their personal lives whatsoever. Making people come out, having theories.... You are allowed to have opinions but you don't have to put it up their faces!!! The stuff that happened to Kit and happens to others is horrible and no one should ever have to experience it....
Famous people are just people too!! They deserve privacy, just because many people decided to like them doesn't take away their privacy!!!!!
that will work as Charlie told him to go away in Season 2 so it couldn't go any further really after that. Ben apologised so that was it as far as his character goes.
Sebastian did great. Whatever he does in future projects I hope he has success. I hope that he doesn't leave because of NEGATIVE people. Those are the ones that RUIN everything for us real fans and the actors. Hateful people shouldn't even be given the slightest attention , but REJECTION and not fall for their negative , rude awful attitude towards young actors. I see it from negative "fans" towards BL Asian actors it's disgusting. All the best for Sebastian. And leave him alone! if he is with JOE or not, who cares!! it's not our business, Gees!
You're talking about the Twitter threads made about him, aren't you?
Hmm, yeah, Branding and image often plays a part in decisions, one does wonder..
I am not going to miss Ben Hope actually.. His role is on a dead end. By the way, Sebastian and Joe are not dating anymore, IF they actually did. How inseparable they were, how distant they are now.
I don't understand this obsession in finding out if Sebastian and Joe are dating. I could care less if they were. I just think they are close friends and nothing more.
When an actor can make you mad (in character) you know he’s doing a good job. I think booting him is wrong. We need to be constantly reminded we live in a world where we’re not liked. You take that away and you’re looking thru rose colored glasses.
I’m not going to lie, that last scene of Ben in Episode 7 made me feel sorry for him. I get where Charlie was coming from, but I thought he was a little harsh on Ben. I’m certainly not excusing any of Ben’s behavior, but he’s a teenager. I hate to think the anti-Ben people would deny him any type of personal growth, development, and redemption. We are not the same now as we were when we were 16 (thank goodness), and the teenage years are full of mistakes and bad decisions, but they are also about self-discovery and growth. I’m disappointed we are not going to see that in Ben, because it looked like he was making an effort at the end.
But in ep. 8 when Nick comes out on Instagram, Ben is back being his old hateful self and leaving mean comments. There's that.
Except for one line; I'm sorry for everything, the whole apology was about him; not what he did to Charlie.
Charlie was not harsh, not even a little. Why is it the abused's job to make things easier for the abuser or to help him clear his conscience? I don't disagree with you that someone like Ben or of Ben's age can learn from their mistakes and grow--we don't know enough of Ben's backstory to call him an irredeemable bad person...he's a kid/young adult and if we wrote off all children who did similar things, most people on the planet would be written-off before they turned 18. But it's not up to Charlie to guide him to redemption--it's up to Ben and it's up to society--teachers, parents and adults--to stop stigmatizing sexualities that don't conform to the norm.
@@michaelangeloiii3798 Thoughtful post. I understand that what Ben did to Charlie affected Charlie deeply and contributed to Charlie’s doubting his self-worth (that he confessed to Nick at the end), and I wasn’t expecting Charlie to embrace Ben with open arms. I was just surprised by the way Charlie responded to Ben. It seemed *a little* harsh to me, that’s all.
@@temporarystranger95 I appreciate the kind response...sometimes comments can be misconstrued and people just sling poo at one another. I think that I understood Charlie's reaction because I was abused similarly in my youth and perhaps even more harshly than Charlie was abused by Ben. The abuser did later apologize but it was too soon after I experienced years of it for me to forgive and forget. I reacted similarly and have never regretted it. Had this person apologized later in life, after I had healed from my wounds, I would have reacted differently but I still remember the day that he apologized and how many people told me that I should have forgiven him despite knowing how relentlessly he tortured me for so long. Saying "sorry" is the easy part. Atonement requires action and Ben has a ways to go before he attones for what he did. Again, thank you for responding kindly. I enjoy interacting with people like you, even when we are coming at a subject via different standpoints.
Honestly, Sebastian just reads as the “gay daddy” of the group. The wiser, more experienced of the group that the others can comfortably talk to.
AAAH!! i'm sure we will all miss Bash, so so much. But i won't miss Ben 😂! We love you Bash, wish you so much love!
I hope the show continues. I'm looking forward to seeing many more seasons 4,5,6,7.............❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
There is no more hope for Ben Hope. When I first saw Ben's last scene, I had a feeling, that this could be the last time we see him, but I was hoping the opposite. Seeing Ben slowly accepting himself and becoming a better person (with the help of the show's protagonists) would've been such an inspiration for LGBT kids. An insipration to never give up on eachother, to never leave behind people who need help, even if they do everything to be left behind. An inspiration to overcome the pain of the past and build a better future, to be noble and show mercy on miserible people, who hurted us. And also for kids like Ben, it would've been an inspiration to don't give up on themselves, to ask for help and try to become better. Alice Oseman just refused to deliver this important message. This is a crime against the whole universe of Heartstopper. And the fact, that Sebastian, the boy who gave life to Ben's character agrees with this dessicion just makes me more sad. Now the message to LGBT kids is, to never show mercy, never forgive, never try to understand difficult people. Congrats! Good teaching. This is th number one issue with LGBTQ+ movements these days. These cool, accepting people say they are building a safe space, where everyone is welcome, but the so called "safe space" turns out to be nothing else, but an escape from reality, and it turns out, that they deside who is welcome. They deside how to be a good gay and they deside who is homophobic. People who suffered the most, cause the most pain to others. But under the serfice, they desperately need help. Nothing will be better until we don't stop this circle with forgiveness.
I totally agree with you! And the scene where Harry wanted to join the party in Paris? Charlie could've rejected him nicer instead of slamming the door shut on Harry's face. Harry stood up for Nick and Charlie in the previous episode! I feel like Alice wanted to make Charlie stood up for himself, like he's stronger now, but the situation has changed. Charlie's attitude just made him look rude and mean.
@@leonshimizu I think Alice wanted to make clear, that in her world there's zero tolerance against any kind of toxic behavior. But being unable to forgive is also a toxic behavior.
@@bencekovacs4765 It's true! Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is how Tara and Darcy respond to Imogen when she said she's an ally.
Why do people always assume they were together when Kit and Joe are way more touchy with each other? Don’t get me wrong, that means nothing… Especially when they’re trying to promote a show… But I just don’t get why people would pin Joe with Bash over Kit.
i totally agree with you.
the chemistry is off the wall between Kit and Joe. So if there is any relationship between any of them. My money is on them.
@@hennyvanbavel3148 exactly, if I had to put Bash with anyone, it would’ve been that actor Connor who he’s always with. They could just be friends of course, but I would put them together before Bash and Joe.
He's the 'Joffrey' in this story. Honestly, it takes even way more to bring such a character which we know is going to be loathed and stil go ahead with it.
Sebastian Croft put in an outstanding performance balancing charisma against his character's unpleasant behaviour. I look forward to seeing him in his next shows.
We will miss u Sebastian no matter what and also we all love u and be safe where ever u are 🤟🤟🤟 and have a great day
This had me in tears
BASH NOOO
Ikr 😢
Sebastian played so well as Ben although that's not a likeable character. Seb's eye contact and facial expressions are just spot on. He's so handsome and talented as well. Wish him good luck in other performances
So sad bash is leaving but its right for the show and true to alice's storyline
He needed his own storyline outside the group villaín
His character was easy to hate - Sebastian did a great job. However, it was also hard to hate the character given how much we know Sebastian (the person/actor) is a great guy and ally.
What I do hope for all of these young actors is that they go on to... you might think I'm going to say great success and yes I want that... but we know sooooooooooooooo many young actors who get famous and then struggle with mental health, drug abuse, etc. as they get older. I really hope that each of these actors go on to live happy lives whatever they do... and that they have a great support network and mentors so they stay on the right track especially through any adversity.
That is my biggest hope and wish for all of these young actors.
Bash played Ben so well making me hate him so much despite loving Sebastian so much. I wish him the best career in the future 🫶
I agree with everyone else. Sebastian was tasked with giving life to a character we were supposed to hate. He is such a good actor and absolutely pulled that off. Ben’s arc in this story may be over but I will be sure to wait and see what Sebastian does next because if he can bring this much life into this role, he can most likely do anything!
I got half a jumpscare because my TH-cam notifications recommended this video and I first read "blooper"
I love Sebastian Croft's portrayal of Ben Hope. He was one character you love to hate. A really good actor.
Ben could come back as guest star in the future ❤❤
bash is so lovely!
also spied maia with kit on the ride
Have Bash on the soundtrack for season 3 ❤
i loved the video but i don't understand why so many people are always assuming that Bash and Joe are dating, like can friends not act like that? like i understand where people come from by the assumptions but im sure they all hangout outside of filming because their all friends and theres nothing stopping them from hanging out outside filming the show, it makes filming so much better because they all have chemistry because their friends.
I am cryinggggggggg😢😢😢
just wish people would stop assuming things abt other people's love lives. kinda the whole point of the show, dont you think?
wont miss either 😆
I will watch season 1 and too so much again just to see bash again(not ben but bash.)
No no no no no, yo si quiero un arco de redención completo para él :(
Sebastian Croft is beautiful, sensitive and talented. His future as a huge star looks very bright indeed
The first half of the video was really interesting but oh my god leave them alone they’re just people and deserve a private life…
I LOVE BASH SOOO MUCH , & IK HE'S A GEM OF A PERSON.❤
I don't know why people insist on speculating about the sex lives of these kids. Their personal lives are no ones business but their own.
Oh nooo
Hm, sounds like the events of Solitaire won't matter in the series then. Because just goes to Higgs, which isn't really that far away.
Have you watched heartstopper my love 😂
4;38 Sebs bulging phone in pants issue at that Pride confrontation... or maybe he just happy to be there... supporter or team member, who cares, good on him.
and just saw him in film Horrible Histories:The Movie... cute boy !
I love Sebastian
Title is misleading lol, only 1 “reaction” about his departure which was by Alice, the creator and writer of Heartstopper
I was about to say before she said it like maybe at the end of the show joe might scroll and see Ben and his now boyfriend happy together on Instagram or irl who knows
When Ben said that he wasn't coming back to school, I thought he was alluding to suicide. That's not something I would wish on anyone, of course, but writing it in would address a very grim reality so many of us face.
Maybe Kit, Nick and Sebastian are a THROUPLE! Where's that theory?
I’m happy Ben is leaving but Sebastian leaving is sad :(
He's a great actor, but I am also glad they did not try to keep Ben in "artificially". Although it would be nice to know that he had overcome his issues. Maybe a spinoff, haha.
I’m gonna cry oh my god. Is it bad that I loved Ben but also dislike Ben? Sebastian was such a great actor. I’m gonna miss him so much.
People must remember this is a TV series and what happens in real life 2 real families this show brings out a lot of real-life drama Ben played a part that hurt a lot of people he is a very good actor yeah I didn't like it the way he treated Charlie but it is a TV show not real life it's just like real life stuff like that happens to a lot of people hopefully the show opens a lot of people's eyes to this world this show is a beautiful show I love it looking forward to season 3 and good luck Ben wherever the world takes you
I feel I miss Ben, wish if stayed on that he not go near group but still there
“Sebastian’s hand was iNtReStInGlY placed” SEBASTIONNNNNN 😂
These poor kids. Leave them be, we need to stop speculating. Let them live, being young is so hard already.
No Bash!!
( 1:37) Nice jawline and of course eyes.
I will miss Ben character.. because I love the battle between him & Nick. It’s like a twilight feeling to get Charlie’s heart. Who to choose? Who to love.. etc. it’s a great storyline but I will not miss ben treating Charlie poorly though!!
and if you've already read Solitaire, you'd know how him treating Charlie poorly is just getting worse and worse.
Ben deserves his own story which will tell about internalised queerphobia and self-acceptance. Come on if Mr. Farouk can explore his sexuality a little late in his life and have that shown in the series, then Ben’s life could show about queer individuals from struggling to accept themselves to coming out.
Ben's story is continued in Solitaire which I recommend reading. If you've read it and still you want Ben to come back, I'm at a loss of words. He's the worst in it.
Thank you for the click bait title tho
Are we sure Ben / Seb wont be returning? If so, that's sad, as there is content from some of Alice's other work that includes Ben, which would have made an interesting part of Season 3
I'm not sure they're going to delve too much into Solitaire's story too much. Ben's presence in the show was already significantly more than he got in the graphic novels.
Ben can get the heck out of her but Bash hurts man.
I won’t really miss Ben character but I will miss the actor
Ben and Omar I believe
What about Conner ?
I’ll miss Bash
Well, if his character is done, it makes sense to go.
I don't agree, unless the show was for ages 10+... Ben was the only one with true deep problems that had no predictable solution in sight. Furthermore, in real life that's where we could see the biggest growth come from, and the most positive message the show could convey to the audience. As opposed to removing a seriously troubled character from a show, so no one has to look at him anymore. Great way to face problems... but on the other hand, i got this vibe from season 2 overall, which is why it makes absolutely no sense to be for ages 14+.
But the show is still primarily about the guy Ben bullied. Ben deserves a redemption, but not from his victim
I agree with this 👆. We are so very quick to write someone off and it should not be the case. If it indeed were the case, most people in the LGBTQ+ community would never EVER speak to their parents. They have so much patience with people who have caused them, literally, irreparable trauma, even to the point of attempted suicide but they refuse to believe that Ben can change?
But I do agree with Alice Oseman, this story is about Charlie, and the type of trauma that Ben caused Charlie cannot be undone in less than a year. We cannot undermine Charlie's pain by focusing on making Ben feel better. No. Our actions have consequences so you CANNOT have your forgiveness on your terms. You apologize, you change and you move on and if you are truly serious, you will leave the person that you have damaged alone. So, yeah, Ben needed to go, for Charlie and Nick's sake.
@@quietestkitten Spoiler:
And everyone who has read the (web) comics is aware of how much of Ben's action caused harm to Charlie in a long, deep and traumatic way that he's still struggling with it when he goes to therapy.
I am going to miss bash
I’m sorry but Ben could have redemption and the character could evolve. I feel like he needs to. It’s too many like him and I know because I was Charlie. But I’ve seen 2 of my ex be exactly like Ben. But they grew up and evolved and realized not everyone was going to shut them out.
I’m so happy bens leaving but I’m so sad Sebastian’s leaving 😭😭
he's not leaving he just want revelent to the story anymore
❤Sebastian is awesome. Ben, not so much 🤷🏻♀️Bash leaving the series really does suck.
There no reason 😂 he not in the rest of the books simple
Bash oh no
blah blah blah. Isn'y it just because this is what happens in the graphic novels the show is based on????
I rather they keep Ben around for character development. But a lot of the fans from my observation are unforgivable brats. If you hold grudges for life, especially for fictional characters, then you're pretty sad. I honestly believe he could of eventually turned around and become a better person.
bruh why do people always try to ship the cast 🤦🏽♀️
NOOOOO
To call someone a bad person...hmmm. Is there not a difference between one's personhood (as a child of a loving God) and one's behaviour (that is utterly crappy?) To say that one is a bad person, is this not setting oneself up to be a self-appointed god-incarnate, sitting in judgement of others? Does this cycle ever stop? If so, how? I offer this as someone who is a survivor of decades-long abuse.
i will not miss ben , but I will miss Bash
Hearstopper
Ben is a fundamentally unloved and unlovable character. Ben's place in the story is over.
Thanks for the spoiler
Never heard of this show, not sure why it came up in my recommendations, but I’m guessing it’s some coming of age LGB show that uses all the latest buzzwords like toxic, racism, violence, homophobia etc that appeal to anyone under 20. Am I correct? Do people call this “wholesome” with a vocal fry?
Neither will be missed and most of the cast seem to have fallen out with him and he seems to be going off the rails so.
girl what….
What the fuck are you saying
Well that’s ‘grade A’ bull poo right there!
Are you talking about Tobie's and Kit's most recent IG post about their cast's friendships? Bash is excluded from all of them. Makes me wonder why. I actually think there was a falling out in a big way.
@@user-qs9zm2wo1t don’t be an unnecessary drama Queen.