Dr Gil is an expert and unbiased. This is why we’re getting such an honest and plain reading of the scientific literature on this subject. Congrats and thank you for having him on.
Right away, I love to hear epidemiological surveys presented without all that confusing question of confounding variables. Usually if you read the details you'll find that those who did the math on the survey that got them published will assure us that they corrected for any compounding variables so we can rest easy that the math makes the "research" valid.
Canola has less mortality than butter and lard? Prior to the 1950s, everyone used animal fats and heart disease was unheard of prior to the 20th century. The introduction of seed oils parallels in the graphs data with CVD. How does an ancient diet cause a new disease? Ancel keys lipid hypotheses really strong here
People now consume more calories, are heavier, and less active than they were then. People live longer now than they did then. People sleep significantly less per night now than they did then. People are exposed to more environmental harms now than they were then. People have fewer close friends now than they did then. Lots of reasons that have nothing to do with canola oil would perfectly explain the onset of new diseases.
It's great to have Gil in the nutrition community. Has a solid background in health science, research and is able to break down complicated topics into easier to understand information for the average viewer
In my Swedish grocery store there aren't many alternative to canola oil if you want a neutral high smoke point oil. There are just single bottles of sunflower and corn oil tucked away below a myriad varieties of canola oil. It's whats in mayo and dressings and everything else. If it was the cause of obesity and all disease then Sweden ought to be worse off.
The one question that really interests me and was not covered is, What about canola oil _plus_ olive oil vs either alone? I strongly suspect that both together is better. The hypothesis could be tested. Dr. Carvalho almost touched on the possibility shortly after 59:40.
I would be curious to know what the balance of evidence is on linoleic acid and specific populations with autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis. It seems very clear that for the general population or for people with overweight, obesity, CVD, dyslipidemia, or diabetes, that linoleic acid and the seed oils that contain it either have a neutral or possibly beneficial effect on inflammation. But I’m curious to know if the pathways that regulate linoleic acid conversion to arachidonic acid and its subsequent pro-inflammatory metabolites are damaged for some reason, if consumption of large amounts of linoleic acid would then be something to avoid. Similar to the way most people don’t have to worry about oxalates, but people who are prone to kidney stones may want to be more cautious about having borscht and giant spinach smoothies every day.
For years I have heard the argument against canola oil, mainly the processing of even the cold pressed version. Those who recommend canola oil for their patients would never provide their rebuttal to the lay people. They would only say it's low in saturated fat and high in mono saturated fat. I am finally hearing both sides of the argument. I am looking forward to checking out more interviews on this channel.
Just make sure it's been deodorized because the smell tells us not to consume it. But with a good deodorizing process we can get past our instinctual revulsion and allow us to consume this very profitable oil crop. Personally, I avoid "RBD" oils of any kind. (look it up) But everybody has different priorities.
I like the unbiased and thorough analysis. For me, oil being maximum calorie density is a big strike, but the biggest is being on a whole food-plant based diet, which bans it. This diet fixed me up real good so I'm sticking with the plan in totality. I still have some trouble with weight gain unless I track calories, which isn't a huge issue for me since I eat very similar foods daily. I went on this diet to lower my LDL and it dropped from 120 mg/dl (high being > 100) to a much lower value, I believe 64 was the first blood test result. Also fixed weight, blood pressure and high resting heart rate. I won't need a statin and I got off my blood pressure medication with doctor supervision. I have no doubt a person could do it on a mediterranian diet if they are careful enough. Whatever works.
I use organic canola oil all the time, it’s supposed to lower cholesterol levels (which even as a WFPB vegan taking a statin, I need). I still don’t use much, and never fry anything (I don’t believe frying is healthy. Not because of what it may do to the oil, but because like sugar leads to excess consumption, frying makes you want to overeat the fried food)
The video titles aren't inflammatory or enticing enough. A bit of "Shock 'n Awe" click-baiting works when it comes to channel growth, unfortunately. But hopefully slow and steady will win the viewer marathon race for this channel.
I was going to say the same, on gil's channel he has a video going in depth on that exact topic. I think he said high oleic sunflower would be best? But that's from my memory
@@TheMonsterReapz I seem to recall that sunflower oil is related to acne...I don't know the reason, but I think it would make a great disucussion if true
I vividly remember, as a kid, drinking a small glass of canola oil from the bottle under the innocent belief I was drinking the equivalent of a serving of liquid vegetables. It was disgusting!
I don't know if seed oils are bad. I don't care. However considering that every calorie from every so called healthy carrot eaten too many is converted to saturated fat and stored in the body, I strongly don't buy the saturated fat is bad hystery. If it were bad, evolution would have let us store more carbs directly. Adding the fact that unsaturated seed oils are part of human food in meaningful amounts only for like 100 years I can safely drop every seed oil and eat as much saturated fat as I like.
I have no opinion on seed oils and health - I rarely use them because of the calorie count, so I was surprised when researching this comment that canola oil was only 40kcal/tsp. (Errata ... thank you @hannahri - 3 tsp per tbsp = so - canola oil sucks)
Most cooking oils go through an insane amount of processing with chemical solvents, steamers, neutralizers, de-waxers, bleach and deodorizers before they end up in the bottle. If you watch this video on the modern canola oil making process, and you’ll see exactly what I mean. What they don’t tell you in this video is that the “solvent” that is most often used to extract the oil is the neurotoxin hexane - and it's literally bathed in it. Hexane is a cheap byproduct from gasoline production, that’s a serious occupational hazard and toxic air pollutant. It’s been shown that some hexane residue can remain in the oil, and the FDA doesn’t require food manufacturers to test for residues. Residue tests done by the Cornucopia Institute in 2009 found hexane residues in soybean oil. So, we very well could be eating this chemical every time we cook with hexane-extracted oils. Almost all toxicology research focuses on the industrial use and inhalation of hexane, so no one knows exactly how dangerous eating it is - but it surely isn’t healthy.@@TheProofWithSimonHill
Thanks for this podcast. Helped me with a very tedious day's driving. I think the only giod thing that has come out of the 'Big Seed Oil' conspiracy is that it might have helped to encourage people to eat less processed food. My goodness what a big fuss online over an inocuous oil, that, according to your excellent summary, is either neutral or beneficial!
Canola oil’s impact on brain health would be a good topic … I’ve seen 2017 reports that it contributes to decline and dementia. Appreciate the info but will continue to stay away from it.
Doesn't seem to matter much in terms of fatty acid composition. www.researchgate.net/figure/Fatty-acid-composition-of-different-canola-oils_tbl1_259537645
Studies are not made to be "trusted." They are made to be read carefully, scrutinized, and compared to each other. Try as they might, industries can not keep dumping money on studies and hoping it works. See the sugar industry, tobacco industry, and fossil fuel industry. All the money in the world, but the science points against them regardless.
@@TheProofWithSimonHilltobacco after decades. Sugar even later. So maybe next will be Canola after enough damage is done..what's your point? Canola might be ok 9r not ok but to say it's healthy because of x y z study despite all the chemicals and solvents used to produce highly processed oil is irresponsible. My 2 cents
It's amusing how these rumors grow on social media and develop by arguing things that could sort of make sense like, the oil is heated so it must be harmful, high linoleic acid a omega 6 so it must be harmful, or they use the maligned term "seed oils" Blaming oil is often used to distract by saturated fat deniers. I use extra virgen olive oil but maybe I'll buy some conola too.
I live in country side and rape seeds are very heavily sprayed with all kind of chemicals , I would not touch it unless it is organic and unrefined, even then, there are better and healthier options.
One should look at the residue concentrations left and how they compare to the harmful levels. Without this information there is no clear reason to be afraid of pesticides.
@@TheProofWithSimonHillit's sick how you TH-cam fake experts use same argument for everything, use some study or say no evidence. It's common sense to avoid food sprayed heavily with pesticide and glyphosate etc. who is going to look at residuals? Even if they did, it won't apply to all batches, too many variables.You have to make notes to remember what the other person is saying, to ask follow up questions, enough said. Its no brainer to avoid highly processed Canola oil when possible, no amount of these flawed studies is going to convince people that have common sense and care about their own health.
Very interesting talk. Can I assumed that the oils mainly used in these studies are non organic types? Glyphosate is a commonly used at pre-harvest of Ripe seed oil. Are these studies therefore showing that it is not having a detremental effect on human health?
Please your videos are good but can the subject information start in a focused direct way without personal information of the presenter. We ordinary people are short of time so we need to use time for our own learning, good high quality content. Thanks . God bless you and hope my comment will be considered as positive feedback with good intentions. Thanks again .
1) the comment that ordinary people are short in time is just rude and completely irrelevant - what does that even mean? That "special" people have nothing to do all day? 2) in case you do not know - in contrary to cable TV , youtube videos can be watched whenever we want/have the time to do so. Imagine that - we can even watch the whole video over a couple of days! 3) there are time stamps, so you can just switch to which topic interests you most 4) it is rude to ask a content creator to tailor his content to you and your time schedule specifically - especially taking points 1-3 into consideration. How entitled can one be? 5) comments like this show me why people are still unhealthy, broke and living a shitty life - because there is so much high quality and free content available to self educate, yet people find reasons why it is not possible to take in this information..........
Simon, I have 20 clinical experiments showing seed oils damage human tissue. Would you like that list? They measure human tissue, they are not epidemiology, To me, they are conclusive that seed oils are devastating. Just because canola oil lowers LDL and does not increase inflammation, does not make it healthy when it destroys tissue.
Could you please provide a list if you have? I think it is potentially a big problem that genotypes for d6d and d5d confound all studies that use serum levels. Possibly also tissue levels
I appreciate your knowledge. I learn so much from both of you. I am 65 years old and do not take any medication since 2017 Great respect for both of you. Stergios
Since Simon mentioned safflower oil -- *high oleic* safflower oil (and sunflower oil, for that matter) have love been very easy to find at the grocery store, and at least where I live I would say are more common. High oleic safflower and sunflower oils have compositions much closer to olive/canola than soy/corn. This may not be the case for when those oils are used in processed foods, I have no idea.
Simon, I think R Keith McCormick (book: great bones) would make an excellent guest. He has an excellent book on osteoporosis .. he has several YT’s and podcast guest spots. He’s a pentathlete who competed in the olympics before finding severe osteoporosis at age 45 … I haven’t skipped ahead,to his nutrition section yet but the quick glance looks like plant centric + exercise … just your profile .
I’m interested in the data because I like research. However, the main purposes I have used canola oil for in the past is baking or frying because it is an oil that lacks flavor. I no longer bake treats or fry foods, so I don’t have the need for canola oil. When adding oil to a salad or some roasted vegetables, I prefer a flavored olive oil. It’s at least good to know that if I do decide to fry or bake, I can safely use canola oil. Over a year ago I stopped eating processed foods, sugar, artificial sweeteners and most grains. I feel much better, have better bloodwork, have lost my excess weight and have had several health conditions go away. When I slip up, I don’t feel well.
Theoretical at this stage. Both olive and canola have been used in long term dietary intervention studies that have showed reductions in risk of cvd. But no study has compared the two in an intervention setting for long enough to see if any differences in health outcomes.
Big Seed is pleased :D Personally, I switched from sunflower oil to canola oil because canola is higher in Omega 3. Most if not all studies that I read declared both canola and sunflower oil safe as compared to saturated fats.
However grass fed butter has very high levels of omega 3s(compared to cows fed grain), however the issue with seed oils is the omega 6ratio is higher than the 3s, which is inflammatory(according to the social media nonsense)
Hello All, I wonder which part of our dialogue you found most meaningful. Please, if you have any related enquiries, place them in the comments section. I promise to consider them for our next session.
Reasoning this issue doesn't even have to go into human trials, as the initial concerns were based on industry data, not biological or health data. Here is what I used to use to try and get people to think... but it didn't break through... the train has left the station.... WHY CANOLA FEAR IS IS MISINFORMATION: The health scares that are spreading and claimed against canola oil are listed below and I have outlined next to each point why the concerns of canola in food don't add up if reputable and traceable sources are used (as is the case for any food). In fact Canola is indeed one of the healthier oils and this is a case of damaging misinformation, and we suggest that consumers read the facts on this topic before following loose information. 1) Toxic erucic acid? - this is a natural component of the original rapeseed and also most brassica vegetables and is associated with a foul taste - i.e. eat your brocolli issue - of course, as it is part of an anti-herbivory strategy on the part of the plant as is the case for most plants originally. Despite this it has been a part of South Eats Asian and Scandinavian diets for centuries and is the "oil of choice" for one of the longest lived people - the Okinawans. It has been selectively bred or hybridized to deliver the product we now call canola (Canada Oil). This is the same for most anti-herbivory compounds in all of the fruit and vegetables that we grow and eat today. There is not one fruit or vegetable on the shelf that resembles it's form prior to human selection which is something that has occurred in all cultures for 10's of thousand of years. Except maybe our seaweed which is also why it has a challenging flavour for some - it still has some anti herbivory compounds as a survival strategy. So erucic acid is not a health concern in canola oil and there is no difference here to other food we consume today. We can question whether we have bred out too much from all foods in relation to bitter compounds like some phenolics that are in fact healthy in small doses. 2) Use of solvents in extraction - this is the case for most food processing. Water is a solvent too. Hexane at high doses is toxic but so are most things. The levels of hexane in canola oil is much lower than what we get breathing air on a highway. Unless someone has a poor processing facility the levels of hexane in food oils is very very low and well below the safety levels of food standards. Many oils use hexane for extraction as it is highly volatile and disappears from the product easily at the end. That is why it is used, because it disappears. You get more hexane from breathing air in Sydney. However - the main issue with hexane is that it is a fossil ingredient and it is better if we evolve to eliminate hexane in processing for those reasons, but it is not a health concern in proper processing facilities. Pressing and supercritical CO2 are other methods for oil extraction and are used in many oil extraction facilities as well. 3) Transfats through poor processing - If mismanaged, all oils in overheating for long periods can increase the levels of transfats. There are high standards on the processing technology so that transfats are low and this is the case for Australian produced oils. Another reason to buy oils from countries with strong food handling regulations. Canola in Australia has low transfats and it is one oil that is more resistant to oxidation under heat than many oils, and so it is suitable to high heat processes like cooking food, e.g. corn chips. Other oils would oxidise more easily to undesirable oxidised fatty acids. This is why one of the healthiest and longest lived populations on earth, the Okinawans, use canola as their choice of oil. 4) GMO - Don't buy GMO canola - we don't. This is not for health reasons but for mono-corporate control of a food source. The only reasons it is genetically modified is to increase the use of glyphosate as a pesticide which is not a good thing at mass scale. Consumers have been blindly led astray by misinformation to believe that the GMO aspect has something to do with their health. I agree that we should expose companies doing bad things with our food. But we should stick to the facts and not resort to vindictive mass hype around a good food because a one company has done unethical things to a food product - just don't buy your canola oil from such companies. Canola oil is important to maintain in the mainstream diet which tends to be high in Omega-6 relative to Omega-3, and you should know that we all need to increase the sources of Omega-3 in the western diet to get back to a n6:n3 2:1 ratio from a 15:1 ratio. This is an 18 carbon chain of essential ALA type omega-3, rather than the longer chain marine ones that we get more from seafood. So the only canola oil that should be of concern today for health reasons is that of a poor manufacturer which is not the case in Australian, non-GMO and traceable canola manufacture. This is the same for any food product on the food shelf, and it is stragne that misinformation has spread about Canola only. Hopefully this addresses some of your concerns. We endeavor to reduce the environmental and increased the health benefits in food across all aspects of what we do, based on facts and founded in the scientific evidence, not opinion. OTHER AUTHORITATIVE OPINIONS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO US: www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/04/13/ask-the-expert-concerns-about-canola-oil/ www.livestrong.com/article/1011232-truth-canola-oil/ www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/food/2001/02/07/canola-baloney/df72d038-babc-4305-8819-23094e26adba/?noredirect=on&.f8cc764ceb3e www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2015/12/12/lifestyle/food-thought-traditional-okinawan-diet-may-help-prolong-life/#.XQ3GBLwzbSE Either we can be a part of peddling mis-information (unacceptable to me), or we can just be neutral to it (irresponsible to me), or we can be one of the proactive fact finders keeping the organic food space well informed on facts and not hype (my preferred way). Believe me, if there was something wrong with our Australian non-GMO Canola oil then then we would not be using it. And now we can't use this higher Omega-3 balanced oil because of the extent of misinformation.
I listened with great interest even if oil isn't a problem for me. If anything, it is the absence of oil that could be an issue. For the life of me, I don't know what I would do with oil in my **current** diet and nuts are a trigger food that leads to massive overeating. So, I might decide to add a tiny little bit of oil to make sure I don't get deficiencies. Since they are both high-energy and unpalatable to me, that might be the best way to go about it.
@@annbarbarag9152 For people who like it, I am sure this is great. I don't, and I also don't need the concentrated energy. In order to get enough nutrition on a weight loss/maintenance diet, oil isn't the first thing that comes to mind which is a bit of a non-issue for me, because I don't like it in the first place.
@@panes840 The problem **I** have with those is that they are trigger foods... and I suffer the consequences later. They are also gateway foods: once the package is empty, start to devour everything and anything in sight, because of hunger. Even vegetables can do that, which helped me lose over 60 kg and keep them off, but it is a very fragile balance. For example, I need them cooked. Raw ones will make me overeat, a.k.a. gain weight quickly. As a result, I have a very restrictive diet that navigates most of the pitfalls, but that I recommend to no one. It is just less unpleasant to be about half my highest weight.
@@panes840 Unfortunately, it does not work. I overeat them regardless of the shape they're in. There is something in them that makes me overeat, and when I don't have enough, I simply switch to *anything* else. These are not "cravings" but genuine hunger. I found a sort-of-solution with ground flaxseed, but even there, I have to be *very* careful. The problem with flaxseed is that it contains almost no omega 6, *and* I cannot consume enough soybeans to compensate. Walnuts are great, but if they are in the house, I lose control. Cooked soybeans are also a trigger food, but I did find a workable solution for that by ditching the pressure cooker and switching to a soybean-OtherBean mixture. So far, *cooked* (not raw) vegetables are my best bet.
@@panes840 Thank you. Those were useless to me. As for sugar, it has not effect on me. In fact, I *think/guess* that the presence of added sugar/sweet foods was why I hated cooked vegetables as a child. It is **hunger** that makes me overingest. For example, today, circumstances were such that I could not eat much, and I have the nausea to show for it. Eating will reduce it and alsmost certainly eliminate it, but doesn't help with weight management. That said, I am **not** complaining. I was able to lose over 60 kg and am keeping them off. Life would just be more pleasant if the constant gnawing hunger would go away instead of just being minimised. I know how to eliminate it altogether and it is heavenly, but it also requires about 10,000 kcal a day, not the best way to lose weight, obviously. One problem that most therapists and dietitians have is that they don't understand that satiety (a.k.a. absence of hunger) is not the same as fullness. It is perfectly possible to be ravenously hungry and very uncomfortably full and the feeling is miserable.
Dr Gil is an expert and unbiased. This is why we’re getting such an honest and plain reading of the scientific literature on this subject. Congrats and thank you for having him on.
People like to belong to a tribe and once they are convinced for their own reasons that they are in the right tribe they do not want to leave.
Right away, I love to hear epidemiological surveys presented without all that confusing question of confounding variables. Usually if you read the details you'll find that those who did the math on the survey that got them published will assure us that they corrected for any compounding variables so we can rest easy that the math makes the "research" valid.
Canola has less mortality than butter and lard? Prior to the 1950s, everyone used animal fats and heart disease was unheard of prior to the 20th century. The introduction of seed oils parallels in the graphs data with CVD. How does an ancient diet cause a new disease? Ancel keys lipid hypotheses really strong here
People now consume more calories, are heavier, and less active than they were then. People live longer now than they did then. People sleep significantly less per night now than they did then. People are exposed to more environmental harms now than they were then. People have fewer close friends now than they did then.
Lots of reasons that have nothing to do with canola oil would perfectly explain the onset of new diseases.
Find one correlation and you assume that's the cause?
Prior to 1950 animal fat usage was lower than now. Depending on what part of the world you're looking at of course
It's great to have Gil in the nutrition community. Has a solid background in health science, research and is able to break down complicated topics into easier to understand information for the average viewer
Agreed!
He's pushing an agenda like at who he associates with
Thank you both for sticking with science no matter how unpopular or controversial the position is.
In my Swedish grocery store there aren't many alternative to canola oil if you want a neutral high smoke point oil. There are just single bottles of sunflower and corn oil tucked away below a myriad varieties of canola oil. It's whats in mayo and dressings and everything else.
If it was the cause of obesity and all disease then Sweden ought to be worse off.
The one question that really interests me and was not covered is, What about canola oil _plus_ olive oil vs either alone? I strongly suspect that both together is better. The hypothesis could be tested. Dr. Carvalho almost touched on the possibility shortly after 59:40.
I would be curious to know what the balance of evidence is on linoleic acid and specific populations with autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis. It seems very clear that for the general population or for people with overweight, obesity, CVD, dyslipidemia, or diabetes, that linoleic acid and the seed oils that contain it either have a neutral or possibly beneficial effect on inflammation. But I’m curious to know if the pathways that regulate linoleic acid conversion to arachidonic acid and its subsequent pro-inflammatory metabolites are damaged for some reason, if consumption of large amounts of linoleic acid would then be something to avoid. Similar to the way most people don’t have to worry about oxalates, but people who are prone to kidney stones may want to be more cautious about having borscht and giant spinach smoothies every day.
I'll add that as a potential topic for a future episode.
Two of my favorites for health info! 🤩Thank you for another great episode.
For years I have heard the argument against canola oil, mainly the processing of even the cold pressed version. Those who recommend canola oil for their patients would never provide their rebuttal to the lay people. They would only say it's low in saturated fat and high in mono saturated fat. I am finally hearing both sides of the argument. I am looking forward to checking out more interviews on this channel.
Just make sure it's been deodorized because the smell tells us not to consume it. But with a good deodorizing process we can get past our instinctual revulsion and allow us to consume this very profitable oil crop. Personally, I avoid "RBD" oils of any kind. (look it up) But everybody has different priorities.
I like the unbiased and thorough analysis. For me, oil being maximum calorie density is a big strike, but the biggest is being on a whole food-plant based diet, which bans it. This diet fixed me up real good so I'm sticking with the plan in totality. I still have some trouble with weight gain unless I track calories, which isn't a huge issue for me since I eat very similar foods daily.
I went on this diet to lower my LDL and it dropped from 120 mg/dl (high being > 100) to a much lower value, I believe 64 was the first blood test result. Also fixed weight, blood pressure and high resting heart rate. I won't need a statin and I got off my blood pressure medication with doctor supervision.
I have no doubt a person could do it on a mediterranian diet if they are careful enough. Whatever works.
I use organic canola oil all the time, it’s supposed to lower cholesterol levels (which even as a WFPB vegan taking a statin, I need). I still don’t use much, and never fry anything (I don’t believe frying is healthy. Not because of what it may do to the oil, but because like sugar leads to excess consumption, frying makes you want to overeat the fried food)
A vegan taking a statin? Oh but if you don’t have any animal fats then why would you need to lower cholesterol? I missed that logic…
A vegan taking a statin? Oh but if you don’t have any animal fats then why would you need to lower cholesterol? I missed that logic…
A vegan taking a statin? Oh but if you don’t have any animal fats then why would you need to lower cholesterol? I missed that logic…
A vegan taking a statin? Oh but if you don’t have any animal fats then why would you need to lower cholesterol? I missed that logic…
A vegan taking a statin? Oh but if you don’t have any animal fats then why would you need to lower cholesterol? I missed that logic…
What about cold pressed canola oil, with no solvents?
your content and guests are of such high quality I’m surprised you don’t have more subscribers.
The video titles aren't inflammatory or enticing enough. A bit of "Shock 'n Awe" click-baiting works when it comes to channel growth, unfortunately. But hopefully slow and steady will win the viewer marathon race for this channel.
What about some oils that are higher in omega6 like sunflower oil that’s commonly used in my country
Sunflower, safflower, canola, olive oil are all good oils to choose from. The omega 6 isn't an issue. Gil has done videos on oils
I was going to say the same, on gil's channel he has a video going in depth on that exact topic. I think he said high oleic sunflower would be best? But that's from my memory
@@TheMonsterReapz I seem to recall that sunflower oil is related to acne...I don't know the reason, but I think it would make a great disucussion if true
One of the scientist in one of the studies also studied "chocolate milk for recovery from exercise..." Unbiased? seriously?
I vividly remember, as a kid, drinking a small glass of canola oil from the bottle under the innocent belief I was drinking the equivalent of a serving of liquid vegetables. It was disgusting!
I am afraid that's not what guidelines meant by eat vegetables!
I don't know if seed oils are bad. I don't care. However considering that every calorie from every so called healthy carrot eaten too many is converted to saturated fat and stored in the body, I strongly don't buy the saturated fat is bad hystery. If it were bad, evolution would have let us store more carbs directly. Adding the fact that unsaturated seed oils are part of human food in meaningful amounts only for like 100 years I can safely drop every seed oil and eat as much saturated fat as I like.
I have no opinion on seed oils and health - I rarely use them because of the calorie count, so I was surprised when researching this comment that canola oil was only 40kcal/tsp. (Errata ... thank you @hannahri - 3 tsp per tbsp = so - canola oil sucks)
that's the same amount of calories/tsp of EVERY single oil.
How could you not know this?
I think you may be conflating teaspoons with Tablespoons, easily done, but at 120 cals per Tbsp (3 tsps per Tbsp), all oil compares.
@@hannahrl apparently that is the case ... so - I'll "doubly" stay away from high cal veg oils
How about organic canola oil vs organic sunflower oil?
33:43 well said about calling out the double standard when scoffing at epidemiology
but also I appreciate that he finds people who don't care for observational studies valid, as long as that keep that same energy (ray peat types)
Processed oils, i.e. canola oil, corn oil, sunflower oil bad. Check out how they process it.
How does the way something is made have any bearing on its health value?
Most cooking oils go through an insane amount of processing with chemical solvents, steamers, neutralizers, de-waxers, bleach and deodorizers before they end up in the bottle. If you watch this video on the modern canola oil making process, and you’ll see exactly what I mean.
What they don’t tell you in this video is that the “solvent” that is most often used to extract the oil is the neurotoxin hexane - and it's literally bathed in it. Hexane is a cheap byproduct from gasoline production, that’s a serious occupational hazard and toxic air pollutant. It’s been shown that some hexane residue can remain in the oil, and the FDA doesn’t require food manufacturers to test for residues. Residue tests done by the Cornucopia Institute in 2009 found hexane residues in soybean oil. So, we very well could be eating this chemical every time we cook with hexane-extracted oils. Almost all toxicology research focuses on the industrial use and inhalation of hexane, so no one knows exactly how dangerous eating it is - but it surely isn’t healthy.@@TheProofWithSimonHill
Thanks for this podcast. Helped me with a very tedious day's driving. I think the only giod thing that has come out of the 'Big Seed Oil' conspiracy is that it might have helped to encourage people to eat less processed food. My goodness what a big fuss online over an inocuous oil, that, according to your excellent summary, is either neutral or beneficial!
Canola oil’s impact on brain health would be a good topic … I’ve seen 2017 reports that it contributes to decline and dementia.
Appreciate the info but will continue to stay away from it.
It'd be better if you could link the reports in the future.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5719422/
You didn't mentioned if Canola oil better for Omega 3!
Presumably Cold Press would have higher level of it?
Doesn't seem to matter much in terms of fatty acid composition. www.researchgate.net/figure/Fatty-acid-composition-of-different-canola-oils_tbl1_259537645
I'm not exactly sure we are at a time where we can trust the studies. Science and the food industry are a political mess.
Studies are not made to be "trusted." They are made to be read carefully, scrutinized, and compared to each other. Try as they might, industries can not keep dumping money on studies and hoping it works. See the sugar industry, tobacco industry, and fossil fuel industry. All the money in the world, but the science points against them regardless.
@@TheProofWithSimonHillcommon sense
@@TheProofWithSimonHilltobacco after decades. Sugar even later. So maybe next will be Canola after enough damage is done..what's your point? Canola might be ok 9r not ok but to say it's healthy because of x y z study despite all the chemicals and solvents used to produce highly processed oil is irresponsible. My 2 cents
It's amusing how these rumors grow on social media and develop by arguing things that could sort of make sense like, the oil is heated so it must be harmful, high linoleic acid a omega 6 so it must be harmful, or they use the maligned term "seed oils" Blaming oil is often used to distract by saturated fat deniers. I use extra virgen olive oil but maybe I'll buy some conola too.
I live in country side and rape seeds are very heavily sprayed with all kind of chemicals , I would not touch it unless it is organic and unrefined, even then, there are better and healthier options.
One should look at the residue concentrations left and how they compare to the harmful levels. Without this information there is no clear reason to be afraid of pesticides.
@@TheProofWithSimonHillit's sick how you TH-cam fake experts use same argument for everything, use some study or say no evidence. It's common sense to avoid food sprayed heavily with pesticide and glyphosate etc. who is going to look at residuals? Even if they did, it won't apply to all batches, too many variables.You have to make notes to remember what the other person is saying, to ask follow up questions, enough said. Its no brainer to avoid highly processed Canola oil when possible, no amount of these flawed studies is going to convince people that have common sense and care about their own health.
Very interesting talk. Can I assumed that the oils mainly used in these studies are non organic types? Glyphosate is a commonly used at pre-harvest of Ripe seed oil. Are these studies therefore showing that it is not having a detremental effect on human health?
They generally do not specify what brand of oil but if they went out of their way to pick organic oils they would probably specify it.
Please your videos are good but can the subject information start in a focused direct way without personal information of the presenter. We ordinary people are short of time so we need to use time for our own learning, good high quality content. Thanks . God bless you and hope my comment will be considered as positive feedback with good intentions. Thanks again .
You can use the youtube sections feature to skip the introduction in the future!
1) the comment that ordinary people are short in time is just rude and completely irrelevant - what does that even mean? That "special" people have nothing to do all day?
2) in case you do not know - in contrary to cable TV , youtube videos can be watched whenever we want/have the time to do so. Imagine that - we can even watch the whole video over a couple of days!
3) there are time stamps, so you can just switch to which topic interests you most
4) it is rude to ask a content creator to tailor his content to you and your time schedule specifically - especially taking points 1-3 into consideration. How entitled can one be?
5) comments like this show me why people are still unhealthy, broke and living a shitty life - because there is so much high quality and free content available to self educate, yet people find reasons why it is not possible to take in this information..........
Canola Oil: Way too over-engineered. I’ll pass thank you.
A cold-pressed canola oil is “engineered”?
Simon, I have 20 clinical experiments showing seed oils damage human tissue. Would you like that list? They measure human tissue, they are not epidemiology, To me, they are conclusive that seed oils are devastating.
Just because canola oil lowers LDL and does not increase inflammation, does not make it healthy when it destroys tissue.
Could you please provide a list if you have? I think it is potentially a big problem that genotypes for d6d and d5d confound all studies that use serum levels. Possibly also tissue levels
Please share here. Thanks
You gonna share the links to these experiments?
I appreciate your knowledge.
I learn so much from both of you.
I am 65 years old and do not take any medication since 2017
Great respect for both of you.
Stergios
What i am curious about is oil or nuts and seeds vs broccoli or apples, with an equal calorie diet. Great video.
Since Simon mentioned safflower oil -- *high oleic* safflower oil (and sunflower oil, for that matter) have love been very easy to find at the grocery store, and at least where I live I would say are more common. High oleic safflower and sunflower oils have compositions much closer to olive/canola than soy/corn. This may not be the case for when those oils are used in processed foods, I have no idea.
Simon, I think R Keith McCormick (book: great bones) would make an excellent guest. He has an excellent book on osteoporosis .. he has several YT’s and podcast guest spots. He’s a pentathlete who competed in the olympics before finding severe osteoporosis at age 45 … I haven’t skipped ahead,to his nutrition section yet but the quick glance looks like plant centric + exercise … just your profile .
I will look into that!
Interesting, thanks!
Nah. I'll stick to ghee, olive oil, avocado oil thanks. I avoid all processed food.
Olive oil and avocado oil are great too!
Dr. Gil? i'm IN
1:02:40 400 calories of canola oil is only about 3½ tablespoons. That isn't really that much, especially over the course of two or three meals.
Since he is talking about specific research findings, can we please have links to those papers?
I’m interested in the data because I like research. However, the main purposes I have used canola oil for in the past is baking or frying because it is an oil that lacks flavor. I no longer bake treats or fry foods, so I don’t have the need for canola oil. When adding oil to a salad or some roasted vegetables, I prefer a flavored olive oil. It’s at least good to know that if I do decide to fry or bake, I can safely use canola oil. Over a year ago I stopped eating processed foods, sugar, artificial sweeteners and most grains. I feel much better, have better bloodwork, have lost my excess weight and have had several health conditions go away. When I slip up, I don’t feel well.
As Dr. Layne Norton is fond of pointing out, it's the outcomes that matter.
Any final word on hexane?
The trace amounts left in seed oils are much less than the hexane you inhale every day by just breathing.
Great show thank you. What about the polyphenols benefit of extra virgin olive oil vs canola?
Theoretical at this stage. Both olive and canola have been used in long term dietary intervention studies that have showed reductions in risk of cvd. But no study has compared the two in an intervention setting for long enough to see if any differences in health outcomes.
Big Seed is pleased :D
Personally, I switched from sunflower oil to canola oil because canola is higher in Omega 3. Most if not all studies that I read declared both canola and sunflower oil safe as compared to saturated fats.
However grass fed butter has very high levels of omega 3s(compared to cows fed grain), however the issue with seed oils is the omega 6ratio is higher than the 3s, which is inflammatory(according to the social media nonsense)
Hello All,
I wonder which part of our dialogue you found most meaningful. Please, if you have any related enquiries, place them in the comments section. I promise to consider them for our next session.
Reasoning this issue doesn't even have to go into human trials, as the initial concerns were based on industry data, not biological or health data. Here is what I used to use to try and get people to think... but it didn't break through... the train has left the station....
WHY CANOLA FEAR IS IS MISINFORMATION:
The health scares that are spreading and claimed against canola oil are listed below and I have outlined next to each point why the concerns of canola in food don't add up if reputable and traceable sources are used (as is the case for any food). In fact Canola is indeed one of the healthier oils and this is a case of damaging misinformation, and we suggest that consumers read the facts on this topic before following loose information.
1) Toxic erucic acid? - this is a natural component of the original rapeseed and also most brassica vegetables and is associated with a foul taste - i.e. eat your brocolli issue - of course, as it is part of an anti-herbivory strategy on the part of the plant as is the case for most plants originally. Despite this it has been a part of South Eats Asian and Scandinavian diets for centuries and is the "oil of choice" for one of the longest lived people - the Okinawans. It has been selectively bred or hybridized to deliver the product we now call canola (Canada Oil). This is the same for most anti-herbivory compounds in all of the fruit and vegetables that we grow and eat today. There is not one fruit or vegetable on the shelf that resembles it's form prior to human selection which is something that has occurred in all cultures for 10's of thousand of years. Except maybe our seaweed which is also why it has a challenging flavour for some - it still has some anti herbivory compounds as a survival strategy. So erucic acid is not a health concern in canola oil and there is no difference here to other food we consume today. We can question whether we have bred out too much from all foods in relation to bitter compounds like some phenolics that are in fact healthy in small doses.
2) Use of solvents in extraction - this is the case for most food processing. Water is a solvent too. Hexane at high doses is toxic but so are most things. The levels of hexane in canola oil is much lower than what we get breathing air on a highway. Unless someone has a poor processing facility the levels of hexane in food oils is very very low and well below the safety levels of food standards. Many oils use hexane for extraction as it is highly volatile and disappears from the product easily at the end. That is why it is used, because it disappears. You get more hexane from breathing air in Sydney.
However - the main issue with hexane is that it is a fossil ingredient and it is better if we evolve to eliminate hexane in processing for those reasons, but it is not a health concern in proper processing facilities. Pressing and supercritical CO2 are other methods for oil extraction and are used in many oil extraction facilities as well.
3) Transfats through poor processing - If mismanaged, all oils in overheating for long periods can increase the levels of transfats. There are high standards on the processing technology so that transfats are low and this is the case for Australian produced oils. Another reason to buy oils from countries with strong food handling regulations. Canola in Australia has low transfats and it is one oil that is more resistant to oxidation under heat than many oils, and so it is suitable to high heat processes like cooking food, e.g. corn chips. Other oils would oxidise more easily to undesirable oxidised fatty acids. This is why one of the healthiest and longest lived populations on earth, the Okinawans, use canola as their choice of oil.
4) GMO - Don't buy GMO canola - we don't. This is not for health reasons but for mono-corporate control of a food source. The only reasons it is genetically modified is to increase the use of glyphosate as a pesticide which is not a good thing at mass scale. Consumers have been blindly led astray by misinformation to believe that the GMO aspect has something to do with their health. I agree that we should expose companies doing bad things with our food. But we should stick to the facts and not resort to vindictive mass hype around a good food because a one company has done unethical things to a food product - just don't buy your canola oil from such companies.
Canola oil is important to maintain in the mainstream diet which tends to be high in Omega-6 relative to Omega-3, and you should know that we all need to increase the sources of Omega-3 in the western diet to get back to a n6:n3 2:1 ratio from a 15:1 ratio. This is an 18 carbon chain of essential ALA type omega-3, rather than the longer chain marine ones that we get more from seafood.
So the only canola oil that should be of concern today for health reasons is that of a poor manufacturer which is not the case in Australian, non-GMO and traceable canola manufacture. This is the same for any food product on the food shelf, and it is stragne that misinformation has spread about Canola only.
Hopefully this addresses some of your concerns. We endeavor to reduce the environmental and increased the health benefits in food across all aspects of what we do, based on facts and founded in the scientific evidence, not opinion.
OTHER AUTHORITATIVE OPINIONS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO US:
www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/04/13/ask-the-expert-concerns-about-canola-oil/
www.livestrong.com/article/1011232-truth-canola-oil/
www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/food/2001/02/07/canola-baloney/df72d038-babc-4305-8819-23094e26adba/?noredirect=on&.f8cc764ceb3e
www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2015/12/12/lifestyle/food-thought-traditional-okinawan-diet-may-help-prolong-life/#.XQ3GBLwzbSE
Either we can be a part of peddling mis-information (unacceptable to me), or we can just be neutral to it (irresponsible to me), or we can be one of the proactive fact finders keeping the organic food space well informed on facts and not hype (my preferred way).
Believe me, if there was something wrong with our Australian non-GMO Canola oil then then we would not be using it. And now we can't use this higher Omega-3 balanced oil because of the extent of misinformation.
Is Mayonnaise made with Canola oil healthy??
Bottom line, Simon: does consuming organic, cold-pressed canola oil improve or optimize the omega-6/ Omega-3 ratio of 2 to 1?
Checkout my ep with Professor Philip Calder on the importance of this ratio.
What I expected from this long report is what is the final outcome? What exactly should we do in your opinion ?
That is up to you to decide!
scientifically 🤣 who sponsored the studies you are quoting?
Feel free to read the studies here: theproof.com/is-canola-oil-toxic-gil-carvhalo-md-phd/
@@TheProofWithSimonHill yes I have. Follow the money
I listened with great interest even if oil isn't a problem for me. If anything, it is the absence of oil that could be an issue. For the life of me, I don't know what I would do with oil in my **current** diet and nuts are a trigger food that leads to massive overeating. So, I might decide to add a tiny little bit of oil to make sure I don't get deficiencies. Since they are both high-energy and unpalatable to me, that might be the best way to go about it.
Have you tried flavor infused olive oil? I like it on salads and various vegetables.
@@annbarbarag9152 For people who like it, I am sure this is great. I don't, and I also don't need the concentrated energy. In order to get enough nutrition on a weight loss/maintenance diet, oil isn't the first thing that comes to mind which is a bit of a non-issue for me, because I don't like it in the first place.
@@panes840 The problem **I** have with those is that they are trigger foods... and I suffer the consequences later. They are also gateway foods: once the package is empty, start to devour everything and anything in sight, because of hunger. Even vegetables can do that, which helped me lose over 60 kg and keep them off, but it is a very fragile balance. For example, I need them cooked. Raw ones will make me overeat, a.k.a. gain weight quickly.
As a result, I have a very restrictive diet that navigates most of the pitfalls, but that I recommend to no one. It is just less unpleasant to be about half my highest weight.
@@panes840 Unfortunately, it does not work. I overeat them regardless of the shape they're in. There is something in them that makes me overeat, and when I don't have enough, I simply switch to *anything* else. These are not "cravings" but genuine hunger. I found a sort-of-solution with ground flaxseed, but even there, I have to be *very* careful. The problem with flaxseed is that it contains almost no omega 6, *and* I cannot consume enough soybeans to compensate.
Walnuts are great, but if they are in the house, I lose control.
Cooked soybeans are also a trigger food, but I did find a workable solution for that by ditching the pressure cooker and switching to a soybean-OtherBean mixture.
So far, *cooked* (not raw) vegetables are my best bet.
@@panes840 Thank you. Those were useless to me. As for sugar, it has not effect on me. In fact, I *think/guess* that the presence of added sugar/sweet foods was why I hated cooked vegetables as a child. It is **hunger** that makes me overingest. For example, today, circumstances were such that I could not eat much, and I have the nausea to show for it. Eating will reduce it and alsmost certainly eliminate it, but doesn't help with weight management.
That said, I am **not** complaining. I was able to lose over 60 kg and am keeping them off. Life would just be more pleasant if the constant gnawing hunger would go away instead of just being minimised. I know how to eliminate it altogether and it is heavenly, but it also requires about 10,000 kcal a day, not the best way to lose weight, obviously.
One problem that most therapists and dietitians have is that they don't understand that satiety (a.k.a. absence of hunger) is not the same as fullness. It is perfectly possible to be ravenously hungry and very uncomfortably full and the feeling is miserable.
What ABOUT COCONUT AND MUSTARD OILS ?? ARE THEY gOOD ..
Coconut is rich in saturated fat like palm oil and butter. Non tropical oils are preferrable.
coconut oil has higher saturated fat content, so it is cholesterol increasing. Mustard oil is polyunsaturated so it is mostly ok.
what about sesame oil and avocado oil ??
@@tedschwartz2142 Both are good.
Bro, the Polynesians been eating coconuts for thousands of years. No CVD pre-colonial
I love the combination of you two! Thanks for this episode! ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!