There is an issue with the curriculum as well. The level of difficulty changes drastically from class 10 to class 11. That forces parents to opt for the early coaching...
I think in schools, faculties must involve in teaching the first principles properly. There's no alternative to that. Teaching tricks is the worst ever thing one can do.
i agree , altho tricks are useful for solving when time is limited but first teacher should explain the question with a long and proper solution then he should aslo show from where that trick is originated
I do regret a bit about how I used to give so many olympiads from early ages (from 1st to 7th) and heck even went to state level for the examinations. The skills that I learned through these examinations were so helpful to me and I had that genuine love/curiosity for the subject but from high school, I only focused on exams and relayed on that rote learning method, and now I'm currently in 11th but luckily our Maths, Chem faculty are superb in making that creative problem-solving skills, bless him! but now I've realized the only skills that matter in competitive exams are the problem-solving skills that I lost fortunately enough there is still time to implement this change. Thank you professor for opening my eyes
@@straightforwardchad there are no REAL olympiads in class 1 to 7 , ig u are talking about sof ones , those are fake and rely on formula and pattern based questions
Sir, you really gave me a reality check in my academics. I'm fresher in 11th grade and started my syllabus 2 months before only, but now when I'm watching your video after video , I've realised that I was just trying to find a similar pattern in mathematics really forgetting that what the subject fundamentally demands- 'THINKING'. The points you mentioned in your videos are very precisely significant. Being confronted with a new question which demands an altogether new approach and not being able to solve that on the basis of my previous knowledge- or maybe knowledge of 'PATTERN'{usually provided by coaching institutes} , gave a lot of mental stress and self-doubt. Now, I'M REALLY GETTING MY ANSWERS.
It is truth ! Many Coaching teachers tell the solution methodology ,but they dont discuss the basics ,using that basics we can solve any problems in the life .!! Thank you Prof for Open Ideas that must spread among all so that Student can start focusing on self realisation of problem solving .
I realized what mathematical problem solving intuition meant only in my first year in college - and this was through my room mate. He solved Math problems like I solved Physics problems. Interestingly, he never went to a coaching institute. Explains a lot.
Well said sir ! These days the school teachers don't even care if you can do problem solving through various approaches they just give us algorithms to solve and get the answer Thankyou for addressing this
Proffesor , I am a student just passed class 12th this year and a dropper preparing for JEE . Sometimes I also think of it that, Mathematics is the language developed by humanity which co-relates and defines the working mechanism of nature and the universe (also making a new subject physics ). With its upcoming problems we definitely need solutions , but in schools and tutions i think in most cases we actually learn the given sets of problems and its given sets of solution as you said in this video . here i think the issue is the word GIVEN we directly learn the solution of the question we face and remember it by practicing it to a level instead of thinking about the solution for the question without minding how much time it would take .as many people already solved the question before using there time and came up with varios methods to solve it . i think we should learn the way to solve how we can do the problem properly at school and tution. but nothing we can do since we need to develop to learn many things sooner and also as examinations have a time limit for which we need to cope up with it . therefore we feel difficulty in preparing for examinations like jee and advance since we need to think to how to solve it before remembering the likely solution like in board examination. guide us the proper way using time in mathematics problems pofessor.
You have nailed the problem. Problem solving is a skill that is useful not only in Mathematics, all subjects of learning and the whole life at large. Those who follow your advice will be able be able to negotiate successfully the complex problems that life throws at you. I commend you for voicing these ideas so lucidly. A small supplement to your ideas. Learning to listen / understand and to comprehend fully what is being conveyed to you is very important before anyone venturing a response.
From the days of Macaulay, Indians have been trained to be clerks...IITians/IAS may be called glorified clerks...We are trained to serve the Master... Independent thinking, Exploration is simply not an Indian trait, dear professor... There may be few exceptions, but largely we as a nation pursue Security rather than Uncertainty...Most of our Start-ups are copied... We shun and shudder from Failure...Columbus could never have been born in India... I understand your point, but sadly it won't amount much.... Thanks for all your work🎉... it's always a pleasure to listen to you
That’s true. In my Class 10, I observed that many of the students could not do even simple and basic calculations. They didn’t know the basic methods and concepts of mathematics which are taught in lower classes. What you told about language is also true. Throughout my school life I was exceptionally good at English and the credit goes to FICTION BOOKS!! And I’ve often scored the highest marks in languages in my school.
We still had this "coaching institutes issue" some 30 years back when I was attempting various competitive exams. I could have done much better without them. They broke my confidence and exposed me with some some students who acted smart. My advise is: don't rely on teaching, rely on learning. Going to IIT means, aiming to become leader. Eduction starts within. Empower yourselves. Last but not least, I complete agree with the presenter here. I can see his seriousness as he kept the phone hanging so not to be bothered.
Summary of This Video Open your mind try to understand things by yourself dont rely on others brain. Train the brain so you can understand what the book trying to explaining you. Know the capability of your intellect.
I never took tutoring classes for any subject from nursery to +1 (im in +2 and use to watch physics wallah and other youtube videos) I never thought that I need to memorize formula etc.. i just keep the whole thing in mind by making it a story like...teachers also helped me in this ..mom has a big role in this Love you mom
I feel so bad that I discovered you so late sir!And you weren't on this platform when I was in high school😓but no worries because "Jab jaago tabhi savera",I will work on my problem solving skills from now on
You are right sir right now I'm in class 10th and i do go to maths tution not because i want but my parents want and all i do there is to sit by my self and solve by my own i told them that i don't need a tution for maths but they Just don't listen. This have become some sort of ritual to send your child to coching and tution even if they don't need them
Sir I am in class 10, till class 8 end I also knew nothing about mathematics, in 9th I heard about IOQM but gave it in 10th. I qualified and now want to aim for INMO, but my main problem is that I try problems but then no one helps me out, My doubts remain unsolved most of the time 😢
The way you adressed the problem solving part it was very nice sir I can also say that bhannat maths channel does exactly what you wanted a teacher should do.
Thanks for your insights. However, you don’t get sufficient time to think and act on solving J2E problems. Only an extensive mugged up and mapped methodology helps in solving this problem. That's why students are prepared like the way they are....May be it is time that you IITs redesign your intake methodolgy. Purely my impression.
Actually, in a subsequent video, I have emphasized the importance of practice. Originality is important but that is at a higher level which cannot be reached without first practising. And, this is backed by research by cognitive scientists.
Just saw the phrase "teaching tricks is the worst thing a teacher can do", well i am urrently in 11th and this is the exact thing that is done in the coaching institute where i go, i couldn't understand the tricks instantly as i tend to keep them in mind only if i practice them two to three times on my own, and then here i am stuck behind all other students in my institute... I agree that problem solving should be done on our own, but what if the problems are too advanced, we will have to rely on the tricks given. Also learning the problem solving skills for JEE on my own would take a very long time as compared to mugging up the tricks taught at the coachings...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I completely agree with you. I really appreciate in future also if you share your advice that will really help parents like me. Thank you once again.
Sir I'm in class 10th and I think my language skills are really good as I read a lot But listening to you about problem solving skills now I wonder if I will actually be able to face JEE Bcoz maths is my favourite subject and I did pretty well in maths whole year But I'm not sure if that was because of good problem solving skills or just those mugged up methods Can I still develop some skills or atleast know myself better in that aspect before choosing JEE
It's true. Nowadays many schools are taking exams as mcqs but the students are just mugging up just cz it is told that these questions will come(70% students). I think school should start changing those type of concepts where marks are given more importance than learning. Even though many teachers try to change those rules but still they can't cz we are told marks are more important than learning
Nice video sir. Kindly make a detailed video on how to develop the problem solving skill as you mentioned, right from child hood till JEE or say even for life situations. Thanks.
I also just focused on memorising the catalogue of methodology and somehow manage to get into a tier 1 college only to be annihilated by people with problem solving skills here. If I had assess myself earlier I might not even choosen engineering
I'm currently in 11th grade and unfortunately developed a dislike for math back in 7th grade due to a teacher who used humiliating punishments. Now, with a supportive math teacher in 11th grade, I still find myself struggling to catch up despite my efforts I'm hesitant to join coaching out of fear of falling behind there too . I'm unsure about what to do and I'm worried that I might achieve fewer marks in 11th grade .
not me having stopped studying during covid so i had to discover problem solving during grade 9 . but i think problem solving is much easily developed when doing physics cause of sheer amount of imagination in it . where as imagination in maths is rather tough so using physics as a stepping stone is gd .
Now In 10th And left with only 1 month of time 1. I Will put my all the efforts to #1 Read the fiction book almost 1hr in the morning and #2 Will start Giving 2hrs Daily to IOQM and Nsejs Not have this kind of options till 9 & 10th Thanks to Pw
Sir I am Kolkata. Last yr my son cracked JEE MAINS AND JEE Advance with out any coaching. Nowa days school only take big money in return they don't teach .Right from class VI th he loved Mathematic subject and he
Why not IIT profs create syllabus. why not there is no mandate that whomsoever goes to coaching will not be admitted thereby forcing teachers at school level to solve the Jee question in schools. Why not there is scheme of school visits not limited to elite schools but every village school to visit IITS. why not a session by Iit profs to show how they make paper how they choose questions for jee.
Please make a video to make people understand the reality of coaching institues so that students stop wasting lakhs and lakhs Rs and understand the importance of self study
I agree with the problem solving problem, But please tell me, why these so called prof. at college just can't make their class interesting? Coaching institute may be approaching the bad method , but i am sure colleges are approaching the worst method. Except few of the teachers, everyone is really making a mess. Sorry if i am sounding rude , but it's just a true word.
even my math teacher accepts this. He doesn't like to go by these mug up the solution way but he is bound to make us do cause many teachers might not give marks to other good methods.. Instead he tries to make sure we dont mug up method without understanding concept by inserting other ques types in between which he didnt teach to see if we are able to think on our own and come up with our answers and also advices us to do olympiad problems
But IITs has reduced weitage of Math by making Chemistry and Physics really very simple in Advance exam. Why student should invest more time in Math when he can get more markets in same effort by focusing on Chemistry and Physics.
Hello Sir I am in class 12 standard right now and take a drop in next year i.e. 2024 . After watching your video I understand the way to you want teach us to focus on prolem solving but i did not have these teacher who taught us problem solving . can you please make a video related to taking some examples so i can really understand more. but feel a bless that you really taught to try learn maths not mugging it by methologies
Hello sir. I'm in class 9 currently and wish to give jee in future. Problem solving is a must as you talked about in the video. Outside school textbooks, what will you recommend to start on? I've finished the syllabus and wish to be exposed to higher level problems that will help me for JEE. Really looking forward to your suggestions !
Problem toh bata diye par ab solution kaise milaga ncert aur rd sharma toh bana chuka wahi sab formula application karke , par kuch hard jismein khud se Jayda sochne ka jarurat pade waisa konse book mein milega
Sir please do something for extra attempt for jee advanced. In this year I have secured 98.2264 percentile in jee mains 2024, but I can not give jee advanced because it is my second drop year. For Jee Advanced we have to qualify the jee mains . So my question is if we have three attempt in mains then why it is not for advanced ??
Great video, prof JC. Also, could you suggest some good fiction books as I am trying to get into reading more fiction now ?(I am a first year student in BS-MS Natural Sciences program.)
Thank you for the comment. Could you tell me what kind of things you like reading or would like to read? I ask this because for someone trying to get into reading, the worst one can do is to pick up a book whose content or style does not match at all with one's likes!
1984 by George Orwell would be a great choice...... For a beginner Animal farm or Journey to the centre of the earth by Jules verne would be better.....
with due respect, Syllabus has changed a lot,without knowing differentiation lograthim in math,it is coming in derivativion in physics Students are given formulas to byheart to solve such Jee has different syllabus from state board ,why is it so? Then students from humble bk ground without any reservation quota can't dream of jee Why jeeexams are conducted before board exams Are the education dept giving enough training to teachers to teach physics chem math in an interesting way? Half the teachers just spit the steps n moveon, Syllabus must be diluted Are practicals shown n asked by the students to do every week?.before 25 yrs we had practicals every week n did religiously but nw 2 days they are asked to do IIT professor should understand that we what they learnt in their skl is not in class 11 n 12 ,simply they syllabus is made such that students are running from pcmcn pcmb The stream which helped in I ndias development has become an aversion nw Educators should think in different angle
I'm currently in 10th,now i realize how important are language skills.Actually,i would always face a problem when reading science fiction books to cope up with the language used in books but now thanks for awakening me and i will also work on problem solving skill.Thank you sir 😃😃😃
woh tab hota hai jab aap usko ek burden leto ho toh,i believe tht physics and mathematics will never be a burden for me yes it's hard at some points like rotational mechanics and calculus but u must love facing hard things 🙃🙃😕
@@ypfilmsypfilms1630 brother, right now you are at the lowest level of basics, come in 11th will get small heart attack 11th physics is much harder than 12th as an experienced student
Very well said sir 1. I used to read a lot till class 10th and as a result despite not having prepared for entrance since class 9 I was able to interpret questions better than most of my fellow batchmates enrolled in such coachings prior to me 2. Till class 11 I had teachers who used to make me strictly mug up methods and I started hating the subject . But in class 12 I got a teacher who used to give most questions for brain storming and thanks to this I started loving the spirit of math again and aced math in advanced
Respected Sir! This is extremely fundamental. This should be labelled as the zeroth lesson of every subject/coursework available in the realm of academics at any level. Thank you so much Sir for these words. 🙏🙏🙏
Very well said prof. For context I was lucky for math I never memorized anything from childhood and derived almost all the formulas from furst principles. I used to create my own problems and try to solve them myself for fun. This I think developed a lot of independent thinking in me that enables me to solve challenging problems in my career now. The usual excuse is it takes time to solve things by urself without looking at formulas, but this time spent really helps u to learn. For context, I have a PhD in Electrical engineering, have some 200+ granted patents ( US/international) and now working on Autonomous Driving research, that is pretty challenging and u dont find a formula to solve it in any book. We have to build innovation ourselves, and definitely learning problem solving skills at a young helps later in ur career. I didnt study at an IIT but I think I am doing decent. It is ok if you dont get into a great school, but learning good problem solving skills is more important.
I do understand your problems with coaching institutes. It really is a major issue in the education of India, but one must understand that the system of coaching institutes is nothing but a consequence of the JEE exam. The JEE exam has to check the engineering capacity of all the students in India. The number of students applying to this exam is a very big number, expecting all of these students to have 'olympiad level' thinking is really not something which is feasible, for people may not be able to have all the facilities. And this is not to say that these students are dumb, the ability to think is something which one can awake to at any age, the student could become a genius in his 4 years at college. Thus it makes sense for there to be a premilinary exam not so focused on problem solving ability and thus it shows the opportunity for existence of JEE MAINS. Now it is valid to expect people who want to give the next exam to be quite good at thinking. But dare I say that for all the reputation that JEE advanced has for being the toughest exam and IIT being best college, this is a bunch of horseshit. One must understand this from a students level. JEE advanced is an exam which has 3 subjects; Maths, Physics and Chemistry, and covers vast territory of each subject. The questions given in the exam are quite tough, the number of questions are can be a big number, ranging from 54 to 60, and has a time limit of 3 hours. You mention olympiads opened your eyes in mathematics. Then you must be aware of the struggle you went through to solve each and every question. The persistence you need to have and the dedication. Being able to think and have new ideas is not something you can do on spot, must be something you would have learned that, it takes hours to solve a single question for the first time, which is reciprocated and shown in olympiads, which tend to have a handful of questions and a rather large time span for the exam. Consider this with the JEE advanced exam, and you find that rather than being a more thinking based paper, it is still much more towards a JEE MAINS type category, mug up and win examination. Their really isn't enough time in the exam to be able to think of new ideas. One must be able to recollect known ideas in exam. Just want to say, I speak as someone who is giving their 12th. The JEE advanced exam is just not something which is made for revolutionary thinkers. One must understand that JEE advanced really is just another exam which exists to 'crack' and get a good '1 crore package' to show your relatives. The other problem is the view of society. It happens quite often that people who pass JEE Advanced and get good ranks in the previous batches come and visit the school. They all come give us some advice talk about their 'package' and leave. I noticed one thing in all of them. All of them were directly or indirectly bragging about their 'IITian status.' This made me realise that inside themselves the only thing they were proud of was their achievement to get into some pretty building but not of their own engineering skills. I don't think once in their life had the considered their skills to be something of importance. Another instance I would like to share is a talk with a friend of mine who could be considered a 'topper' of the campus. I wanted to know what his passion was, I was just asking him his favourite topics, subjects. He was just completely blank. He just told me I do all of three subjects equally, otherwise my rank will go down. Mind you he is one of the 'top rankers' from our school which has branches all around India. One must understand, why will a student want to become a much better thinker if he has a much better chance of becoming an 'IITian' by simply mugging up. After all there must be some benefit to a student for them prefering to actually using their brains for once in their 17 years of existence. It is unfortunate but India as a country just doesn't value new ideas as much. Very simple way to show this is by how much of India's share of GDP goes towards its research. A meagre 0.5% is how much. Also see the history of India in International mathematics olympiads. And people take pride in names of Arybhatta and Srinivas Ramanujan, accomplished mathematicians hailing from our country, having absolutely no idea on how shameless they are to speak of such high mathematicians while having no clue about how India has depressed in its mathematical capabilities. How can India with its binary position on engineering or medical, the closeminded ness of people, and its complete blindedness for pure research be a country to flourish with new ideas? I dont think India actually wants thinkers, i think it wants 'Iitians.' It feels like things are changing slowly but steadily, but haha no chances for me I am leaving my schooling this year, I guess the only option left for me is to be another 'IITian!'
Hello sir, I am a masters student in physics in IItg... I remember my math tuition teacher used to write a problem on board and asked us to solve it by ourselves ... We used to love trying that question in the beginning mostly we could not but one day suddenly we did solve it on our own... That happiness used to be precious. I used to think of that problem whole day and night.. It used to be great Ig students will not understand how to study or learn at a young age by themselves so we need more good teachers who should make them understand Thank you
Hello sir , I have done MSC in operation research from iit Mumbai and have been math faculty in Allen for few years. I totally agree with you sir but I also have to say some points. 1) Nowdays students dont eve have the time to think . 2) 2 years is very less to finish jee syllabus so student is forced to learn and mug up techniques else if he starts developing thinking then he will lose everything and may not even get admission in decent college also. 3) In our country if one tries to develop creativity in subject he will fail everywhere and time will be gone. 4) in this rat race and less time students cant sit patiently and think and think. Not possible to spend so much time.will have to go with flow.
Hello sir/mam, i am regular school student in 11th class going in allen delhi for preparing jee , You are mentioning some points which made me kinda scared is it really not possible a student who has started preparing from 11th class and can crack jee....with regular school.. pls enlighten me I am ready to listen the truth . Pls enlighten me with reality. Thanks and pls reply
@@zoro8800 hi dear ! Well here is the reality! 1) never try to learn the subject from heart as it wastes time. Prepare strictly as per syllabus. 2) practice from good study materials like from fiitjee ,narayanan, test series etc .. 3) dont waste time thinking and thinking developing creativity etc...u cant afford ..only 2 years and 3 huge subjects. 4) see the solutions and try to understand the techniques used in solving them and remember them. 5) u have to be choosy smart and to the point . U r not here for olympiads... 6) dont waste time learning proofs of everything. U cant do this in 2years Have lots to say....but not possible to write here.🙂
@@robinieor as you last mention i cant do this in 2 years , so If I work hard for 2 years and I get above 94percentile in jee mains should i take a drop and if possible can you give your email or number if we can contact I very much respect you. Thanks for sharing reality and i will work hard daily and follow your points sincerely and see how things go .. thanks
Considering the language skills development part, I feel the best way I have learnt it by being the editor of my school magazine and participating in literary activities like debating, or even simply giving a speech. These things are usually ignored as wastage of time, but seriously, with the right efforts can be extremely rewarding. This might just as well be an anecdote, or probably a good communication/ language development strategy, who knows ?
It is a very good way to utilize one skills in practice. But then one needs to have a certain threshold quality of skills to become the editor of a school magazine in the first place!
Studying same text again n again is enough!!. You can get familiar with any alien language even without having any relevant knowledge if you study it repeatedly and consciously. by 3rd or 4th time you will capture the formulas and pattern of that language. You be able read between lines , figure out patterns and even solve questions effectively without practicing. But that can be little frustrating and require somewhat more dedication.
Good advise. I have had this perpetual complaint that students nowadays do not spend any time with a course/subject book. Unless that level of devotion is there, learning remains very shallow and superficial. I also ask students to read fiction/non-fiction to also develop reading habits and understand how sentences are constructed. Again, this advise falls on deaf ears.
Only few people truly appreciate the powers that reading confers on them. If it could somehow be demonstrated with irrefutable evidence, we wouldn't need to keep advising them.
I was lucky enough as my parents did not force me to take tuitions. I have always relied on self study and have always pperformed quite decently in olympiads and IIT Jam. I can relate this with your words of wisdom❤❤❤❤
Well said, I recommend you suggest people to do something called "olympiads" conducted by HBCSE. Although this is popular in case of physics and chemistry (also due to coaching) but for maths it's not as common as the other two subject reason being very few people actually teach it. The problem solving mentality you develop by doing olympiads is insane and will most definitely help you in the future.
Writing out your thoughts helps one to organise, evaluate and clarify them. Reading comprehension helps in building logic and analytical ability and problem identification and problem statement. It also develops imagination to fill in the missing pieces or identifying assumptions built into problem. I've found it extremely useful to use a private wiki to jot down my initial thoughts on a topic and incrementally add, subtract, modify and most importantly clarify my thoughts by finding gaps in my thinking. Basically it's like being able to observe and inspect one's thoughts objectively and critically as a third person would. It allows one to extract the core essentials from the incidental. Kind of like the Pensieve used by Dumbledore in Harry Potter where he brings out different memories and stirs them and isolates the essential ones from the incidental ones. Many of the important works done by cutting edge scientists was done in the form of pen and paper letters for long distance communication. I think this really helped them to focus and concentrate their mental faculties and review their line of thinking/approaches while explaining to others half formed ideas or intuitions or identify missing pieces or faulty reasoning or backtrack to a branch not taken. Similar techniques are used in AI to generate decision tree and prune dead end branches and evaluate/backtrack different options/branches in depth wise or breadth wise manner.
Sorry sir main aisa keh raha hoon, jhoonth nahi bol raha but ekdum similar aapke jaisa hi lagbhag-lagbhag mera bhi thought tha, aaj aapke video ko dekhne ke baad mujhe thodi aur clearity ho gayi. A huge thanks to you sir, aaj mujhe lag raha hai ki shaayad meri bhi thinking ability kaafi achchhi hai. Agar bhavishya me mujhe kabhi Indian education system ko badalne ka mauka mila to main aap jaise professors ki salaah jaroor loonga and mera end goal isi ko aquire karna hai and isi ke liye main jee ki preparation kar raha hoon.
Thank you. I wish you all the very best in this noble aspiration. You will have to be really in a great position yourself in order to able to improve the system.
Respected, professor. You said that a person needs to realise if he or she is good enough for jee or neet or not, but there have been innumerable cases where people who were not good enough for a very long time, but they worked hard to reach at the pinnacle in the scientific field. Lately, one of the fields medalists "june huh" is one such example. I believe, everyone can do anything, but i agree with your thoughts on developing the intuition by practicing.
Sir, I am started learning for JEE in mid class 11. I joined FIITJEE. But I enjoyed math so much that I used to complete the chapter and all it's problem before my tuition teacher started teaching in coaching just to show off to other kids. This was before 11th. I didn't like the mugging up style of teaching in FIITJEE. So, I left. I studied on own, although took a drop because I didn't read chemistry, still joined IIT KGP in 2021. BTW I enjoyed your MOS class in 2nd year in 2022.
After very much thinking i came to one conclusion that our school teachers can teach us the subject very well but because of the vast syllabus they only aim in completing the syllabus in due time they forgot that the students understand the topic or not if u agree like it
Im currently preparing for jee in class 12 and till 11th class..... I never picked up a book to read theory Bcz all these teachers used to say that "mujhse samajh lo book se samajh nhi aayega" And so i thought...... Books are only made for problem solving and not theory But since the start of 12th I've been studying on my own, from books, without any help And i can say for sure that it has helped me a lot, it saves a lot of time and my problem solving abilities have also improved a lot
Sir my school doesn't care much about teaching all they care is marks. I was a really bright student. Due to pressure to get marks i became stressed and went to average student. My mom says i need to het coaching to understand the topics as my school doesn't give importance to that . But i come home by 6:30pm from school so i only want to do self study. Can u pls say what to do about it to join coaching or do self study. If i do self study pls give some tips
It's quite convenient to take the high grounds and preach, its not easy for a teenager to tick all check boxes. The reality is resources are limited and everybody want to survive or climb the social ladder, no point in glorification of academia when it doesn't feed enough people. And it's true JEE Coaching industry comfortably pays teachers CTC of 1Cr whereas IIT Profs stagnate at around 30-40 LPA. Take criticism positively. 🎉
Very well articulated....tution or coaching classes now a days teaches different kinds of format of questions....and students simply learn these formats...so there is no development of problem solving skills....probably because of this reason the quality of IIT graduates is not the same that we used to get 40 years ago... No offence to current gener of IIT..
Blessed to have studied from Amit Gupta sir jee physics He helped me tu learn how to study physics rather than learning jee physics. The most crucial aspect of him was he anways emphasized on writing first and thinking twice 🎉
Thank you so much sir. I recall my introducing puzzles both numerical and non-numericals to my son hoping that sequential thinking will develop. Today he has made some strides forward in maths. Till class 9 he never needed a tutor and has always topped the class year on year. Each word from you resonates so strongly that I found it necessary to write this long. Thank you once again. ❤
Thanks to my school ,I was never forced to learn so called welldefined answers from my class notebook.They very well accepted the answers written by own language skills and vocabulary.And did not hesitate to give marks for my answers. Thank You sir .
Respected Sir, I totally agree to whatever you have said. Spoon-feeding during JEE prep was deeply disturbing. Fortunately, I had a few Excellent teachers who encouraged me to approach problems independently. Over the past 2 years in UG at IITG, I truly realised the importance of this, and why critical independent thinking is so important, especially in engineering.
This video is good but in context of jee it is plain stupid, jee is time limited examination with cut throat competition, you just don't have to solve problems you have to solve them faster to complete exam on time which comes through lot of practice and ultimately implementing methodologies as quickly as possible to a given problem
I don't think you have even watched the first couple of minutes, where I clearly state that I am talking about school students before +2. At the +2 stage, coaching is needed.
Sir I am student of class 12th N.Med I have own planning and strategy to solve questions but it takes much more time Many of the time, I feel depressed due over time taking and there is a limit of time under which we have to complete assignments. Stress is prevailing commonly between students of my age due to coaching,practical’s and five subjects how to over come this situation??? How I should prepare for jee advance and develop skills in time???
Video content is invaluable. I would greatly appreciate your recommendations for math problem-solving books suitable for students in class 6 and 7. I used to excel in maths. However, I've been encountering consistent challenges lately while helping my daughter with her math studies. This has tested my patience and energy, while also increasing my gratitude towards my own school teachers with each passing day. About the language skills, I faced it in my first year of engineering college. Eagrly waiting for your video on "suggestions for parents". Best Regards
Thank you. I am not aware of books which can directly help in levelling up problem solving at the 6th or 7th Standards. I suggest that the attitude towards problem solving be changed using the same textbooks the students are using. For this one needs to consciously avoid the practice of somehow finding the solutions from some source. Instead students should sit down unaided and try to think of solving the problem from different approaches. It is definitely going to be a frustrating experience in the beginning. But there is no other way to really learn problem solving. For Standard 9 and 10 there are some good books though. If there any specific suggestions you are looking forward to as a parent, I will be grateful to learn them. I can then think seriously about addressing them.
@@Prof_JCSir, I have been studying mathematics in a conventional way till now. I watch lectures, then solve illustrative examples from a book and then attempt back exercises on my own. Although not completely because you know we have limited time to manage all three subjects at once and just after solving examples and all we have already solved about 200 problems. Should i stop attempting illustrations and hop directly onto the back exercises?
Critical thinking is essential for higher order Mathematics. For example, abstract Mathematics which is g loaded iq, the measuring criteria is language and not math performance in aptitude tests. Language performance is the metric for abstract mathematics
There is an issue with the curriculum as well. The level of difficulty changes drastically from class 10 to class 11.
That forces parents to opt for the early coaching...
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Yes ,
Agreed
Yes I agree with this
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I think in schools, faculties must involve in teaching the first principles properly. There's no alternative to that. Teaching tricks is the worst ever thing one can do.
i agree , altho tricks are useful for solving when time is limited but first teacher should explain the question with a long and proper solution then he should aslo show from where that trick is originated
It needs alot of time .
@@tauseefahmad9253we have a lot of time , if school teach every thing perfectly then there would be no need for coachings till 10th
yea instead of directctly solving the adv questions 💀💀☠️
@@tauseefahmad9253that's why students(nerds) start preparing even before they born
I do regret a bit about how I used to give so many olympiads from early ages (from 1st to 7th) and heck even went to state level for the examinations. The skills that I learned through these examinations were so helpful to me and I had that genuine love/curiosity for the subject but from high school, I only focused on exams and relayed on that rote learning method, and now I'm currently in 11th but luckily our Maths, Chem faculty are superb in making that creative problem-solving skills, bless him! but now I've realized the only skills that matter in competitive exams are the problem-solving skills that I lost fortunately enough there is still time to implement this change. Thank you professor for opening my eyes
All the best! You are indeed fortunate to have such great teachers.
@@Prof_JC yes sir!, tysm
@@straightforwardchad there are no REAL olympiads in class 1 to 7 , ig u are talking about sof ones , those are fake and rely on formula and pattern based questions
@@Marvel173 local hain and yes im preparing for jee wbu
exactly bro the point of jee is to understand
what the hell is this question trying to say
thats it you just need to understand that
Sir, you really gave me a reality check in my academics. I'm fresher in 11th grade and started my syllabus 2 months before only, but now when I'm watching your video after video , I've realised that I was just trying to find a similar pattern in mathematics really forgetting that what the subject fundamentally demands- 'THINKING'. The points you mentioned in your videos are very precisely significant. Being confronted with a new question which demands an altogether new approach and not being able to solve that on the basis of my previous knowledge- or maybe knowledge of 'PATTERN'{usually provided by coaching institutes} , gave a lot of mental stress and self-doubt. Now, I'M REALLY GETTING MY ANSWERS.
It is truth ! Many Coaching teachers tell the solution methodology ,but they dont discuss the basics ,using that basics we can solve any problems in the life .!! Thank you Prof for Open Ideas that must spread among all so that Student can start focusing on self realisation of problem solving .
I realized what mathematical problem solving intuition meant only in my first year in college - and this was through my room mate. He solved Math problems like I solved Physics problems. Interestingly, he never went to a coaching institute. Explains a lot.
So great to see you here, Tanmay! We do have such gems in every batch, don't we?! :)
Great to see you making genuine and helpful videos, Jeevan Da. I binged watched so many of them :) Great work :)
I can absolutely relate on the intuition part in solving physics problems
Well said sir !
These days the school teachers don't even care if you can do problem solving through various approaches they just give us algorithms to solve and get the answer
Thankyou for addressing this
Proffesor , I am a student just passed class 12th this year and a dropper preparing for JEE . Sometimes I also think of it that, Mathematics is the language developed by humanity which co-relates and defines the working mechanism of nature and the universe (also making a new subject physics ). With its upcoming problems we definitely need solutions , but in schools and tutions i think in most cases we actually learn the given sets of problems and its given sets of solution as you said in this video . here i think the issue is the word GIVEN we directly learn the solution of the question we face and remember it by practicing it to a level instead of thinking about the solution for the question without minding how much time it would take .as many people already solved the question before using there time and came up with varios methods to solve it . i think we should learn the way to solve how we can do the problem properly at school and tution. but nothing we can do since we need to develop to learn many things sooner and also as examinations have a time limit for which we need to cope up with it . therefore we feel difficulty in preparing for examinations like jee and advance since we need to think to how to solve it before remembering the likely solution like in board examination. guide us the proper way using time in mathematics problems pofessor.
You have nailed the problem. Problem solving is a skill that is useful not only in Mathematics, all subjects of learning and the whole life at large. Those who follow your advice will be able be able to negotiate successfully the complex problems that life throws at you. I commend you for voicing these ideas so lucidly. A small supplement to your ideas. Learning to listen / understand and to comprehend fully what is being conveyed to you is very important before anyone venturing a response.
From the days of Macaulay, Indians have been trained to be clerks...IITians/IAS may be called glorified clerks...We are trained to serve the Master... Independent thinking, Exploration is simply not an Indian trait, dear professor... There may be few exceptions, but largely we as a nation pursue Security rather than Uncertainty...Most of our Start-ups are copied... We shun and shudder from Failure...Columbus could never have been born in India... I understand your point, but sadly it won't amount much....
Thanks for all your work🎉... it's always a pleasure to listen to you
well said!
That’s true. In my Class 10, I observed that many of the students could not do even simple and basic calculations. They didn’t know the basic methods and concepts of mathematics which are taught in lower classes. What you told about language is also true. Throughout my school life I was exceptionally good at English and the credit goes to FICTION BOOKS!! And I’ve often scored the highest marks in languages in my school.
We still had this "coaching institutes issue" some 30 years back when I was attempting various competitive exams. I could have done much better without them. They broke my confidence and exposed me with some some students who acted smart.
My advise is: don't rely on teaching, rely on learning. Going to IIT means, aiming to become leader. Eduction starts within. Empower yourselves.
Last but not least, I complete agree with the presenter here. I can see his seriousness as he kept the phone hanging so not to be bothered.
I am talking about coaching for students in class 6 to 10. This is a relatively new trend that was not present 30 years ago.
Summary of This Video
Open your mind try to understand things by yourself dont rely on others brain. Train the brain so you can understand what the book trying to explaining you. Know the capability of your intellect.
I never took tutoring classes for any subject from nursery to +1 (im in +2 and use to watch physics wallah and other youtube videos)
I never thought that I need to memorize formula etc.. i just keep the whole thing in mind by making it a story like...teachers also helped me in this ..mom has a big role in this
Love you mom
I feel so bad that I discovered you so late sir!And you weren't on this platform when I was in high school😓but no worries because "Jab jaago tabhi savera",I will work on my problem solving skills from now on
Sir you dont know how much I feel relaxed while watching your videos. It seems real and motivative.
I am a language coach and yes you are right that language is critical to the learning process.All subjects are dependent on this learning
You are right sir right now I'm in class 10th and i do go to maths tution not because i want but my parents want and all i do there is to sit by my self and solve by my own i told them that i don't need a tution for maths but they Just don't listen. This have become some sort of ritual to send your child to coching and tution even if they don't need them
Sir I am in class 10, till class 8 end I also knew nothing about mathematics, in 9th I heard about IOQM but gave it in 10th. I qualified and now want to aim for INMO, but my main problem is that I try problems but then no one helps me out, My doubts remain unsolved most of the time 😢
The way you adressed the problem solving part it was very nice sir
I can also say that bhannat maths channel does exactly what you wanted a teacher should do.
Thanks for your insights. However, you don’t get sufficient time to think and act on solving J2E problems. Only an extensive mugged up and mapped methodology helps in solving this problem. That's why students are prepared like the way they are....May be it is time that you IITs redesign your intake methodolgy. Purely my impression.
You are very correct sir.developing originality rather than practising
Actually, in a subsequent video, I have emphasized the importance of practice. Originality is important but that is at a higher level which cannot be reached without first practising. And, this is backed by research by cognitive scientists.
Just saw the phrase "teaching tricks is the worst thing a teacher can do", well i am urrently in 11th and this is the exact thing that is done in the coaching institute where i go, i couldn't understand the tricks instantly as i tend to keep them in mind only if i practice them two to three times on my own, and then here i am stuck behind all other students in my institute... I agree that problem solving should be done on our own, but what if the problems are too advanced, we will have to rely on the tricks given. Also learning the problem solving skills for JEE on my own would take a very long time as compared to mugging up the tricks taught at the coachings...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I completely agree with you. I really appreciate in future also if you share your advice that will really help parents like me. Thank you once again.
Sir I'm in class 10th and I think my language skills are really good as I read a lot
But listening to you about problem solving skills now I wonder if I will actually be able to face JEE
Bcoz maths is my favourite subject and I did pretty well in maths whole year
But I'm not sure if that was because of good problem solving skills or just those mugged up methods
Can I still develop some skills or atleast know myself better in that aspect before choosing JEE
It's true. Nowadays many schools are taking exams as mcqs but the students are just mugging up just cz it is told that these questions will come(70% students). I think school should start changing those type of concepts where marks are given more importance than learning. Even though many teachers try to change those rules but still they can't cz we are told marks are more important than learning
Nice video sir. Kindly make a detailed video on how to develop the problem solving skill as you mentioned, right from child hood till JEE or say even for life situations. Thanks.
It is something you develop with observation
I also just focused on memorising the catalogue of methodology and somehow manage to get into a tier 1 college only to be annihilated by people with problem solving skills here. If I had assess myself earlier I might not even choosen engineering
I'm currently in 11th grade and unfortunately developed a dislike for math back in 7th grade due to a teacher who used humiliating punishments. Now, with a supportive math teacher in 11th grade, I still find myself struggling to catch up despite my efforts I'm hesitant to join coaching out of fear of falling behind there too . I'm unsure about what to do and I'm worried that I might achieve fewer marks in 11th grade .
I am in 10th and most of the teachers come and just gives to learn a problem, teacher should teach how to tackle a problem "sochna seekho"
2:03 Because coaching institutes have made it a business where innocent 10-11 year olds are caught in the trap
This year I cleared first level of maths Olympiad (IOQM) but couldn't clear 2nd level(RMO) CLASS 10th🥺
not me having stopped studying during covid so i had to discover problem solving during grade 9 . but i think problem solving is much easily developed when doing physics cause of sheer amount of imagination in it . where as imagination in maths is rather tough so using physics as a stepping stone is gd .
Read if you can G Polya's book "How to solve it?"
Great job - Prof.
Big effort by you . Thanks very much..
The only good video that utube has suggested
Most Important Video For every Student out there!!❤❤❤
Now In 10th And left with only 1 month of time
1. I Will put my all the efforts to #1 Read the fiction book almost 1hr in the morning and #2 Will start Giving 2hrs Daily to IOQM and Nsejs
Not have this kind of options till 9 & 10th Thanks to Pw
Sir I am Kolkata. Last yr my son cracked JEE MAINS AND JEE Advance with out any coaching. Nowa days school only take big money in return they don't teach
.Right from class VI th he loved Mathematic subject and he
Why not IIT profs create syllabus.
why not there is no mandate that whomsoever goes to coaching will not be admitted thereby forcing teachers at school level to solve the Jee question in schools.
Why not there is scheme of school visits not limited to elite schools but every village school to visit IITS.
why not a session by Iit profs to show how they make paper how they choose questions for jee.
Please make a video to make people understand the reality of coaching institues so that students stop wasting lakhs and lakhs Rs and understand the importance of self study
I agree with the problem solving problem,
But please tell me, why these so called prof. at college just can't make their class interesting?
Coaching institute may be approaching the bad method , but i am sure colleges are approaching the worst method.
Except few of the teachers, everyone is really making a mess.
Sorry if i am sounding rude , but it's just a true word.
even my math teacher accepts this. He doesn't like to go by these mug up the solution way but he is bound to make us do cause many teachers might not give marks to other good methods.. Instead he tries to make sure we dont mug up method without understanding concept by inserting other ques types in between which he didnt teach to see if we are able to think on our own and come up with our answers and also advices us to do olympiad problems
You are indeed fortunate to have a good teacher like him.
But IITs has reduced weitage of Math by making Chemistry and Physics really very simple in Advance exam. Why student should invest more time in Math when he can get more markets in same effort by focusing on Chemistry and Physics.
It was an amazing video sir
Hello Sir
I am in class 12 standard right now and take a drop in next year i.e. 2024 . After watching your video I understand the way to you want teach us to focus on prolem solving but i did not have these teacher who taught us problem solving . can you please make a video related to taking some examples so i can really understand more. but feel a bless that you really taught to try learn maths not mugging it by methologies
Couldn't be more true!!! Applies to phy also...
Indeed.
Absolutely correct sir ❤❤❤
Hello sir.
I'm in class 9 currently and wish to give jee in future. Problem solving is a must as you talked about in the video. Outside school textbooks, what will you recommend to start on? I've finished the syllabus and wish to be exposed to higher level problems that will help me for JEE.
Really looking forward to your suggestions !
Let me see if I can come up with some good book recommendations. Just arbitrarily something won't be much helpful to anyone!
Problem toh bata diye par ab solution kaise milaga ncert aur rd sharma toh bana chuka wahi sab formula application karke , par kuch hard jismein khud se Jayda sochne ka jarurat pade waisa konse book mein milega
Sir please do something for extra attempt for jee advanced. In this year I have secured 98.2264 percentile in jee mains 2024, but I can not give jee advanced because it is my second drop year. For Jee Advanced we have to qualify the jee mains . So my question is if we have three attempt in mains then why it is not for advanced ??
Great video, prof JC. Also, could you suggest some good fiction books as I am trying to get into reading more fiction now ?(I am a first year student in BS-MS Natural Sciences program.)
Thank you for the comment. Could you tell me what kind of things you like reading or would like to read? I ask this because for someone trying to get into reading, the worst one can do is to pick up a book whose content or style does not match at all with one's likes!
1984 by George Orwell would be a great choice......
For a beginner Animal farm or Journey to the centre of the earth by Jules verne would be better.....
with due respect,
Syllabus has changed a lot,without knowing differentiation lograthim in math,it is coming in derivativion in physics
Students are given formulas to byheart to solve such
Jee has different syllabus from state board ,why is it so?
Then students from humble bk ground without any reservation quota can't dream of jee
Why jeeexams are conducted before board exams
Are the education dept giving enough training to teachers to teach physics chem math in an interesting way? Half the teachers just spit the steps n moveon,
Syllabus must be diluted
Are practicals shown n asked by the students to do every week?.before 25 yrs we had practicals every week n did religiously but nw 2 days they are asked to do
IIT professor should understand that we what they learnt in their skl is not in class 11 n 12 ,simply they syllabus is made such that students are running from pcmcn pcmb
The stream which helped in I ndias development has become an aversion nw
Educators should think in different angle
Yes sir teacher teach us method but not idea behind it, the way inverter thought 😭
Thank you sir. Why indians not getting nobel prize
👋👋👋I'm from Kharagpur ❤
Achhha 2 min me ham creative bane .it is entrance exam solely responsible for that
Well said sir.
Whats opinion regard icse schools??
Rightly said
🙏🙏🙏 no words😮
I'm currently in 10th,now i realize how important are language skills.Actually,i would always face a problem when reading science fiction books to cope up with the language used in books but now thanks for awakening me and i will also work on problem solving skill.Thank you sir 😃😃😃
Physics book is much much harder to read by ncert in 12th 😢 facing that without coaching and dummy student yt student
woh tab hota hai jab aap usko ek burden leto ho toh,i believe tht physics and mathematics will never be a burden for me yes it's hard at some points like rotational mechanics and calculus but u must love facing hard things 🙃🙃😕
@@ypfilmsypfilms1630 brother, right now you are at the lowest level of basics, come in 11th will get small heart attack 11th physics is much harder than 12th as an experienced student
Let's see what happens to this optimism in two years.
@@_souradeepdebnath_ ok
Very well said sir
1. I used to read a lot till class 10th and as a result despite not having prepared for entrance since class 9 I was able to interpret questions better than most of my fellow batchmates enrolled in such coachings prior to me
2. Till class 11 I had teachers who used to make me strictly mug up methods and I started hating the subject . But in class 12 I got a teacher who used to give most questions for brain storming and thanks to this I started loving the spirit of math again and aced math in advanced
There is value in the classical way if doing things.
@@Prof_JC classical as in, the natural way of doing things or the convenient way?
@@etcetera1674 Classical.
where are you now bro
if you aced jee adv , then you must be in some good IIT with a decent branch, may i have the pleasure of knowing 'em ? please.
I love the fact that now CBSE taking this fact seriously and introduced competency based questions
Well said.but we have a long way to go.parents have not embraced it properly
Respected Sir! This is extremely fundamental. This should be labelled as the zeroth lesson of every subject/coursework available in the realm of academics at any level. Thank you so much Sir for these words. 🙏🙏🙏
Very well said prof. For context I was lucky for math I never memorized anything from childhood and derived almost all the formulas from furst principles. I used to create my own problems and try to solve them myself for fun. This I think developed a lot of independent thinking in me that enables me to solve challenging problems in my career now. The usual excuse is it takes time to solve things by urself without looking at formulas, but this time spent really helps u to learn. For context, I have a PhD in Electrical engineering, have some 200+ granted patents ( US/international) and now working on Autonomous Driving research, that is pretty challenging and u dont find a formula to solve it in any book. We have to build innovation ourselves, and definitely learning problem solving skills at a young helps later in ur career. I didnt study at an IIT but I think I am doing decent. It is ok if you dont get into a great school, but learning good problem solving skills is more important.
That's really inspiring! Where did you get your PhD from?
मुझे तो केवल इतना बेकार लगता है की हिन्दी माध्यम में पढ़ाई करना और हिंदी बोलना इंडिया में इससे bda कोई पाप नही ।😢😢😢😢😢😮😮😮
I do understand your problems with coaching institutes. It really is a major issue in the education of India, but one must understand that the system of coaching institutes is nothing but a consequence of the JEE exam. The JEE exam has to check the engineering capacity of all the students in India. The number of students applying to this exam is a very big number, expecting all of these students to have 'olympiad level' thinking is really not something which is feasible, for people may not be able to have all the facilities. And this is not to say that these students are dumb, the ability to think is something which one can awake to at any age, the student could become a genius in his 4 years at college. Thus it makes sense for there to be a premilinary exam not so focused on problem solving ability and thus it shows the opportunity for existence of JEE MAINS.
Now it is valid to expect people who want to give the next exam to be quite good at thinking. But dare I say that for all the reputation that JEE advanced has for being the toughest exam and IIT being best college, this is a bunch of horseshit. One must understand this from a students level. JEE advanced is an exam which has 3 subjects; Maths, Physics and Chemistry, and covers vast territory of each subject. The questions given in the exam are quite tough, the number of questions are can be a big number, ranging from 54 to 60, and has a time limit of 3 hours.
You mention olympiads opened your eyes in mathematics. Then you must be aware of the struggle you went through to solve each and every question. The persistence you need to have and the dedication. Being able to think and have new ideas is not something you can do on spot, must be something you would have learned that, it takes hours to solve a single question for the first time, which is reciprocated and shown in olympiads, which tend to have a handful of questions and a rather large time span for the exam. Consider this with the JEE advanced exam, and you find that rather than being a more thinking based paper, it is still much more towards a JEE MAINS type category, mug up and win examination. Their really isn't enough time in the exam to be able to think of new ideas. One must be able to recollect known ideas in exam.
Just want to say, I speak as someone who is giving their 12th. The JEE advanced exam is just not something which is made for revolutionary thinkers. One must understand that JEE advanced really is just another exam which exists to 'crack' and get a good '1 crore package' to show your relatives.
The other problem is the view of society. It happens quite often that people who pass JEE Advanced and get good ranks in the previous batches come and visit the school. They all come give us some advice talk about their 'package' and leave. I noticed one thing in all of them. All of them were directly or indirectly bragging about their 'IITian status.' This made me realise that inside themselves the only thing they were proud of was their achievement to get into some pretty building but not of their own engineering skills. I don't think once in their life had the considered their skills to be something of importance.
Another instance I would like to share is a talk with a friend of mine who could be considered a 'topper' of the campus. I wanted to know what his passion was, I was just asking him his favourite topics, subjects. He was just completely blank. He just told me I do all of three subjects equally, otherwise my rank will go down. Mind you he is one of the 'top rankers' from our school which has branches all around India. One must understand, why will a student want to become a much better thinker if he has a much better chance of becoming an 'IITian' by simply mugging up. After all there must be some benefit to a student for them prefering to actually using their brains for once in their 17 years of existence.
It is unfortunate but India as a country just doesn't value new ideas as much. Very simple way to show this is by how much of India's share of GDP goes towards its research. A meagre 0.5% is how much. Also see the history of India in International mathematics olympiads. And people take pride in names of Arybhatta and Srinivas Ramanujan, accomplished mathematicians hailing from our country, having absolutely no idea on how shameless they are to speak of such high mathematicians while having no clue about how India has depressed in its mathematical capabilities.
How can India with its binary position on engineering or medical, the closeminded ness of people, and its complete blindedness for pure research be a country to flourish with new ideas? I dont think India actually wants thinkers, i think it wants 'Iitians.'
It feels like things are changing slowly but steadily, but haha no chances for me I am leaving my schooling this year, I guess the only option left for me is to be another 'IITian!'
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Hello sir,
I am a masters student in physics in IItg... I remember my math tuition teacher used to write a problem on board and asked us to solve it by ourselves ... We used to love trying that question in the beginning mostly we could not but one day suddenly we did solve it on our own... That happiness used to be precious. I used to think of that problem whole day and night.. It used to be great
Ig students will not understand how to study or learn at a young age by themselves so we need more good teachers who should make them understand
Thank you
@deepdatta2052 you are in which coaching ?
Hello sir , I have done MSC in operation research from iit Mumbai and have been math faculty in Allen for few years.
I totally agree with you sir but I also have to say some points.
1) Nowdays students dont eve have the time to think .
2) 2 years is very less to finish jee syllabus so student is forced to learn and mug up techniques else if he starts developing thinking then he will lose everything and may not even get admission in decent college also.
3) In our country if one tries to develop creativity in subject he will fail everywhere and time will be gone.
4) in this rat race and less time students cant sit patiently and think and think. Not possible to spend so much time.will have to go with flow.
Hello sir/mam, i am regular school student in 11th class going in allen delhi for preparing jee , You are mentioning some points which made me kinda scared is it really not possible a student who has started preparing from 11th class and can crack jee....with regular school.. pls enlighten me I am ready to listen the truth . Pls enlighten me with reality. Thanks and pls reply
@@zoro8800 hi dear ! Well here is the reality!
1) never try to learn the subject from heart as it wastes time. Prepare strictly as per syllabus.
2) practice from good study materials like from fiitjee ,narayanan, test series etc ..
3) dont waste time thinking and thinking developing creativity etc...u cant afford ..only 2 years and 3 huge subjects.
4) see the solutions and try to understand the techniques used in solving them and remember them.
5) u have to be choosy smart and to the point . U r not here for olympiads...
6) dont waste time learning proofs of everything.
U cant do this in 2years
Have lots to say....but not possible to write here.🙂
@@robinieor as you last mention i cant do this in 2 years , so If I work hard for 2 years and I get above 94percentile in jee mains should i take a drop and if possible can you give your email or number if we can contact I very much respect you. Thanks for sharing reality and i will work hard daily and follow your points sincerely and see how things go .. thanks
Considering the language skills development part, I feel the best way I have learnt it by being the editor of my school magazine and participating in literary activities like debating, or even simply giving a speech. These things are usually ignored as wastage of time, but seriously, with the right efforts can be extremely rewarding. This might just as well be an anecdote, or probably a good communication/ language development strategy, who knows ?
It is a very good way to utilize one skills in practice. But then one needs to have a certain threshold quality of skills to become the editor of a school magazine in the first place!
Language is the key to the treasure of knowledge
Studying same text again n again is enough!!. You can get familiar with any alien language even without having any relevant knowledge if you study it repeatedly and consciously.
by 3rd or 4th time you will capture the formulas and pattern of that language. You be able read between lines , figure out patterns and even solve questions effectively without practicing. But that can be little frustrating and require somewhat more dedication.
why does sir look like abhilash from TVF aspirants 🤣
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I left tuition in 7th and never went again
i never regret and in future also not
Good advise. I have had this perpetual complaint that students nowadays do not spend any time with a course/subject book. Unless that level of devotion is there, learning remains very shallow and superficial. I also ask students to read fiction/non-fiction to also develop reading habits and understand how sentences are constructed. Again, this advise falls on deaf ears.
Only few people truly appreciate the powers that reading confers on them. If it could somehow be demonstrated with irrefutable evidence, we wouldn't need to keep advising them.
true
really understanding it is quite literally the best thing that could possibly happen to one
Sir, can you make another video on how to increase problem solving skills? In detail, how can I do myself?
I was lucky enough as my parents did not force me to take tuitions. I have always relied on self study and have always pperformed quite decently in olympiads and IIT Jam.
I can relate this with your words of wisdom❤❤❤❤
your parents are maybe broke
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People like the commenters here are everywhere but good positive ones are also here so just focus on the work.
Well said, I recommend you suggest people to do something called "olympiads" conducted by HBCSE. Although this is popular in case of physics and chemistry (also due to coaching) but for maths it's not as common as the other two subject reason being very few people actually teach it. The problem solving mentality you develop by doing olympiads is insane and will most definitely help you in the future.
No its popular this time over 90k+ students gave IOQM
@@madhavgupta5810 prmo is ok but studying little bit of actual olympiad math helps more
@@prithujsarkar2010what you mean ioqm is fake? Or you mean IMO shortlist problems
@@prithujsarkar2010 What is actual? RMO problems? Most people will feel dejected after seeing the RMO paper! It is simply waaay to hard for them!
Writing out your thoughts helps one to organise, evaluate and clarify them. Reading comprehension helps in building logic and analytical ability and problem identification and problem statement. It also develops imagination to fill in the missing pieces or identifying assumptions built into problem.
I've found it extremely useful to use a private wiki to jot down my initial thoughts on a topic and incrementally add, subtract, modify and most importantly clarify my thoughts by finding gaps in my thinking.
Basically it's like being able to observe and inspect one's thoughts objectively and critically as a third person would. It allows one to extract the core essentials from the incidental.
Kind of like the Pensieve used by Dumbledore in Harry Potter where he brings out different memories and stirs them and isolates the essential ones from the incidental ones.
Many of the important works done by cutting edge scientists was done in the form of pen and paper letters for long distance communication. I think this really helped them to focus and concentrate their mental faculties and review their line of thinking/approaches while explaining to others half formed ideas or intuitions or identify missing pieces or faulty reasoning or backtrack to a branch not taken.
Similar techniques are used in AI to generate decision tree and prune dead end branches and evaluate/backtrack different options/branches in depth wise or breadth wise manner.
Sorry sir main aisa keh raha hoon, jhoonth nahi bol raha but ekdum similar aapke jaisa hi lagbhag-lagbhag mera bhi thought tha, aaj aapke video ko dekhne ke baad mujhe thodi aur clearity ho gayi. A huge thanks to you sir, aaj mujhe lag raha hai ki shaayad meri bhi thinking ability kaafi achchhi hai. Agar bhavishya me mujhe kabhi Indian education system ko badalne ka mauka mila to main aap jaise professors ki salaah jaroor loonga and mera end goal isi ko aquire karna hai and isi ke liye main jee ki preparation kar raha hoon.
Thank you. I wish you all the very best in this noble aspiration. You will have to be really in a great position yourself in order to able to improve the system.
@@Prof_JCsir wo mujhe pataa hai ki ise kaise karna hai bas aapki blessings chaahiye.
Respected, professor. You said that a person needs to realise if he or she is good enough for jee or neet or not, but there have been innumerable cases where people who were not good enough for a very long time, but they worked hard to reach at the pinnacle in the scientific field. Lately, one of the fields medalists "june huh" is one such example. I believe, everyone can do anything, but i agree with your thoughts on developing the intuition by practicing.
Sir, I am started learning for JEE in mid class 11. I joined FIITJEE. But I enjoyed math so much that I used to complete the chapter and all it's problem before my tuition teacher started teaching in coaching just to show off to other kids. This was before 11th. I didn't like the mugging up style of teaching in FIITJEE.
So, I left.
I studied on own, although took a drop because I didn't read chemistry, still joined IIT KGP in 2021.
BTW I enjoyed your MOS class in 2nd year in 2022.
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@@Marvel173 KGP
My reading, writing, vocabulary is amazing but when it comes to speaking, it's a dumpster fire.
After very much thinking i came to one conclusion that our school teachers can teach us the subject very well but because of the vast syllabus they only aim in completing the syllabus in due time they forgot that the students understand the topic or not if u agree like it
Salute to you sir......
Today I actually understood the meaning of a teacher in IIT.....
Im currently preparing for jee in class 12 and till 11th class..... I never picked up a book to read theory
Bcz all these teachers used to say that "mujhse samajh lo book se samajh nhi aayega" And so i thought...... Books are only made for problem solving and not theory
But since the start of 12th I've been studying on my own, from books, without any help
And i can say for sure that it has helped me a lot, it saves a lot of time and my problem solving abilities have also improved a lot
Thanks for sharing your story. I hope your juniors in high school (below +2) will learn an important lesson from this.
Sir my school doesn't care much about teaching all they care is marks. I was a really bright student. Due to pressure to get marks i became stressed and went to average student. My mom says i need to het coaching to understand the topics as my school doesn't give importance to that . But i come home by 6:30pm from school so i only want to do self study. Can u pls say what to do about it to join coaching or do self study. If i do self study pls give some tips
It's quite convenient to take the high grounds and preach, its not easy for a teenager to tick all check boxes. The reality is resources are limited and everybody want to survive or climb the social ladder, no point in glorification of academia when it doesn't feed enough people. And it's true JEE Coaching industry comfortably pays teachers CTC of 1Cr whereas IIT Profs stagnate at around 30-40 LPA. Take criticism positively. 🎉
I neither see any question nor any criticism. You are just stating facts.
I literally memorized whole maths in 10th and scored 98.9 with 99/100 in maths 😂
Bro
Math should be axiomatic, not based on short tricks
Very well articulated....tution or coaching classes now a days teaches different kinds of format of questions....and students simply learn these formats...so there is no development of problem solving skills....probably because of this reason the quality of IIT graduates is not the same that we used to get 40 years ago...
No offence to current gener of IIT..
Blessed to have studied from Amit Gupta sir jee physics
He helped me tu learn how to study physics rather than learning jee physics.
The most crucial aspect of him was he anways emphasized on writing first and thinking twice 🎉
which coaching were you in
Your point is perfect sir.... Due to this language problem i face major problem in class. 11th now as a neet aspirant i trying to solve this.
Thank you so much sir. I recall my introducing puzzles both numerical and non-numericals to my son hoping that sequential thinking will develop. Today he has made some strides forward in maths. Till class 9 he never needed a tutor and has always topped the class year on year. Each word from you resonates so strongly that I found it necessary to write this long. Thank you once again. ❤
I must commend you on taking such care for your son's proper education.
Thanks to my school ,I was never forced to learn so called welldefined answers from my class notebook.They very well accepted the answers written by own language skills and vocabulary.And did not hesitate to give marks for my answers. Thank You sir .
You are indeed fortunate to go to such a great school and have such great teachers. It is a privilege.
IIT professor shocked that kids join coaching from grade 6 ?
How ironic
Respected Sir, I totally agree to whatever you have said. Spoon-feeding during JEE prep was deeply disturbing. Fortunately, I had a few Excellent teachers who encouraged me to approach problems independently. Over the past 2 years in UG at IITG, I truly realised the importance of this, and why critical independent thinking is so important, especially in engineering.
This video is good but in context of jee it is plain stupid, jee is time limited examination with cut throat competition, you just don't have to solve problems you have to solve them faster to complete exam on time which comes through lot of practice and ultimately implementing methodologies as quickly as possible to a given problem
I don't think you have even watched the first couple of minutes, where I clearly state that I am talking about school students before +2. At the +2 stage, coaching is needed.
@@Prof_JC watched complete video and my comment was for +2 students because your thumbnail will attract more such students
@@Prof_JC I am an ug student and after watching your video I will spend my day practicing what you have said i.e. problem solving and comprehension
Sir I am student of class 12th N.Med I have own planning and strategy to solve questions but it takes much more time Many of the time, I feel depressed due over time taking and there is a limit of time under which we have to complete assignments. Stress is prevailing commonly between students of my age due to coaching,practical’s and five subjects how to over come this situation??? How I should prepare for jee advance and develop skills in time???
Sir i am extremely confuse that how can i aquire problem solving
Video content is invaluable. I would greatly appreciate your recommendations for math problem-solving books suitable for students in class 6 and 7. I used to excel in maths. However, I've been encountering consistent challenges lately while helping my daughter with her math studies. This has tested my patience and energy, while also increasing my gratitude towards my own school teachers with each passing day.
About the language skills, I faced it in my first year of engineering college.
Eagrly waiting for your video on "suggestions for parents".
Best Regards
Thank you. I am not aware of books which can directly help in levelling up problem solving at the 6th or 7th Standards. I suggest that the attitude towards problem solving be changed using the same textbooks the students are using. For this one needs to consciously avoid the practice of somehow finding the solutions from some source. Instead students should sit down unaided and try to think of solving the problem from different approaches. It is definitely going to be a frustrating experience in the beginning. But there is no other way to really learn problem solving. For Standard 9 and 10 there are some good books though. If there any specific suggestions you are looking forward to as a parent, I will be grateful to learn them. I can then think seriously about addressing them.
@@Prof_JCSir, I have been studying mathematics in a conventional way till now. I watch lectures, then solve illustrative examples from a book and then attempt back exercises on my own. Although not completely because you know we have limited time to manage all three subjects at once and just after solving examples and all we have already solved about 200 problems. Should i stop attempting illustrations and hop directly onto the back exercises?
@@ishanvasisth Even if you are not doing all the problems from the back, it is fine. Going through the solved examples first is okay. I also do it.
@@Prof_JC sir can you recommend the ones for class 9 and 10?! I'd be grateful for your answer
@@vishwwaspatil I am thinking of making a video about the books which really helped me at school. Or at least a community post.
Critical thinking is essential for higher order Mathematics.
For example, abstract Mathematics which is g loaded iq, the measuring criteria is language and not math performance in aptitude tests.
Language performance is the metric for abstract mathematics