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If you want to see something as close as possible to the original story, search 'mowgli 1967' on here. Don't watch the dubbed version, watch the subbed original. Trust me.
You had a lot to cover with this story, but there is one detail about Bagheera that was left out. In the course of the story, Bagheera reveals to Mowgli that he was born in captivity. When he got big enough, he decided he was a panther (black leopard) not a man's plaything, so he escaped. To me, this adds a great dimension to the cat. Even after captivity, he had enough compassion that he stood up for the cub of the very creatures that mistreated him, and taught him to respect the jungle.
Would just like to mention that the sloth bear (Baloo) actually gets into real fights with tigers. It's always on sight. So good on them for accurately portraying animal conflicts.
It's one of my favourite parts of the book. Every movie reiteration, I sit there hoping for them to show Kaa how he really is in the book instead of demonizing him just because he's a snake, and every time, I leave disappointed, as they change him into a villian, an idiot, or leave him out entirely.
Approachable Lion Fingers Crossed It looks like Andy Serkis might finally bring us Kaa as a Good Guy (except voiced by a Female) like he is in the Books.
I'm so on board with Kaa being a good guy! Usually snakes are the villains in popular culture, and it's refreshing to have a snake that's a hero for once!
@@willlyon7129snakes are portrayed as bad guys because of the story of Adam and eve but viper from Kung Fu Panda despite being a snake is ironically the sweetest member of the furious five especially towards po while the others were mean to him at first
You may not know this, but the original script of the Disney film was gonna be a hell of a lot darker than the version we got. The story would've been more line with what happened in the book, the wolves were gonna have much larger role, there were deleted songs such as "Song of the Seeonee", "Brother's All", and "The Mighty Hunter's". And the ending was gonna feature Mowgli being forced by Buldeo the hunter to lead him to the treasure chamber under monkey city. But then at some point during the journey, Mowgli would distract Buldeo as Shere Khan (who'd been following after them) would jump outta the bushes and attack, killing the hunter. Mowgli would then use the hunter's rifle to shoot the tiger in the face killing him instantly. Imagine if they'd gone with that version.
I watched the netflix version of this movie the other night and as I listened to you explain the original story, the netflix adaptation seems to have followed the path of the original story way more closely than the disney animated film did.
The only thing the disney cartoon had in common with the book was the characters, and the fact it was in a jungle. Other than that it pretty much is a different story all together.
It says it in the book, I have it, and her name is translated in the book as such, just like tabaque meant dish licker in that language. But perhaps Rudyard got it wrong, and mistranslated his own book.
@@JacobDreemurr Can you please tell me where exactly this happens in the book? Thanks. Because Kipling mostly named his characters fairly accurately, Bagheera is a play on the hindi word Baagh which is used for large jungle cats, Baloo is play on the word Bhaaloo which means a bear, Sher Khan is Sher (tiger) + a last name, Bandar Log is quite literally Monkey People. I always thought he named the mother wolf Raksha because Raksha quite literally means protection and it she who protects and adopts Mowgli as her own cub.
@@ShwetaGupta-hd6yk it's pretty accurate to this, though it eludes to him growing up, and returning to his adoptive human mother, as bageera pays the price of the bull to set him free of the jungle. He one day gets married, but it never goes into it in the story. This was a rather faithful adaptation. Oh, and it's in the beginning of chapter one that it tells that.
Yep, the producers of Lion King wanted Mufasa to die in a way that would rob nothing of his considerable power, and what better way than having him trampled in a stampede? I think they were influenced by the Shere Khan's death.
Honestly, the grand winner between the two would be the book version. The book is a bit more... Realistic, loveable, and has suspense here and there. The part with the monkeys was funny and Kaa should have been a good guy in the Disney version. It makes kids now think that all snakes are associated with the devil. Its really nice to see (or rather read) him as a friend and mentor to Mowgli. Baloo is great as a teacher, Bageera was great too, Shere Kahn is not so childish (like how instead of killing Mowgli when he had the chance, he finishes the valture's song and counts to five before he attacks) and is a bit more, how would you say it? Tiger like. The book is a great way to show humans that animals too have laws and lives like us.
I read this with my son. He loved the story, and it lead into a cool story about haw my dad had a pet mongoose while fighting in Vietnam. The unit had it to keep the 17 species on venomous snakes found in that area away.
Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland as a scathing satire on new controversial mathematic concepts, like imaginary numbers (you know, those things we learned about in high school). Carroll was super conservative and old school, and thought you'd have to be on drugs to believe in such advanced concepts.
Yup! The Chuck Jones animated movies of Rudyard Kipling's works are stellar!! I got to watch them on Nickelodeon in 1990 when I was home sick from school! I loved them so much I got the books from the library. And then, I loved those even more than the cartoons! I was the same way with CJs Phantom Tollbooth, Dr. Dolittle, The Little Princess, Secret Garden, and much of the Grimm's/Anderson's fairy tales. Late 1980s early 1990s Nick Jr. was truly spectacular! Special Delivery had the best shows! 😊✌️🕊️🌈
The animation in this film still astounds me. The physics are all accurate, the way the rain drops off of Bageera’s ear, their specific walk cycles, the hair movements. It’s just really cool to see how hard they worked back then.
Here I am 2023 just now finding your channel and I can’t stop listening and watching! I put on your videos pop in my headphones and I work or get my day going. Hell I’ll be cooking and listening to your videos hours later! 🙌🏽👏🏽
In Tarzan, Jane’s dad mentions Rudyard Kipling. So if all Disney movies take place in the same universe, either Kipling was writing about true events and the movie was the precursor to the book, or The Jungle Book is a movie in-universe like Kill Bill to the Tarantinoverse
Probably the latter since Tarzan in universe took place during the 1900s long before the TV was invented and when cinema was in its infancy. It's probably just a book/movie in that universe. Plus, I don't think Kipling would be able to understand animals, even in the Disney universe. (Although, what makes it stranger is that Tale Spin had Shere Khan as a character and the new Ducktales series is connecting all the Disney Afternoon shows, so maybe he's a fictional character in the main universe and is a real person in the Ducktales universe.)
The Jungle book (1892) is older than Tarzan (1912) or Tale Spin. Rudyard Kipling lived in India in the 19th century and he took inspirations from real life human kids raised in the Indian jungles by wild animals.
There is a second jungle book that Rudyard Kipling wrote that has some additional flashback stories where Mowgli learns how the jungle came to be and more stories that go in-depth on Mowgli's life after what transpired in the first book killing Shere-Kahn, I'm currently reading it, it's pretty good. I'd recommend looking into it.
6:37 loved the writing style, choice of words, the considerate reading of each passage (it show how much respect the reader has for the book), the attitude of the proud parent and an alpha personality replay to a much fierce predator seriously I need an audio-book of the jungle book in Jon solo voice as for the story, it actually does explain how messed up our society is pretty accurately
@@mersedehm.h1525 Nah. He just starved them out then called in Hathi the Elephant and his sons to wreck what was left of the village. The name of the chapter, I believe, was called 'Letting in the Jungle'.
@@Themercthatslides well i from india . in rathambore national park there are only 40 wolves left because they fear 500 leopards and 81 tigers . these tigers can kill crocodiles very easily . i think these wolves in the story would most likely not be himalayan wolf but smaller indian grey wolf which are about the size of wild dogs
I absolutely love the chapter with Kaa. It's my absolute favourite chapter because he's so badass! It really bugs me that Disney didn't want to depict snakes in a positive way in their movie adaptation, because Kaa was supposed to be like a mentor to Mowgli. The whole Scarlett Johansson casting in the live action was a disaster! There's this cool anime called _Jungle Book Shōnen Mowgli_ and it's one of the closest adaptations to Kipling's book. Kaa is even more badass in this series! 😀
b1njjj95 Couldn’t Agree more mate. You might like Andy Serkis’s Mowgli which is now on Netflix a lot more than Disney’s recent remake. At least in Mowgli Kaa is portrayed as a Good guy except played by another Actress Cate Blanchett who does do a much better job than Scarlett Johansson.
I also recommend reading *The Second Jungle Book.* It has more Mowgli stories including what happens to his human mother, a battle with the Dhole, and the final story. The Messed Up Tragedy of The Jungle Book? So few people know how to pronounce "Mowgli." It's *NOT* Mowgli, like, "mowing the lawn." It's pronounced, "Mao-glee," like the Chinese word for "cat." As far how DISNEY messed-up the story? Too many and I'm too tired to bother any more. Let's just sum my most annoying (no particular order): * Akela would NEVER suggest getting rid of Mowgli. Once part of the pack, they were bound to protect him to the death, as he was to them, especially Akela. * Father Wolf was not named "Rama." That was the name of the bull Mowgli rode when killing Shere Khan. * Shere Khan is a WHITE tiger. This adds to the fear he strikes in the hearts of Men. With his limp, people in the village thought that he was the re0incarnation of an old money-lender. Mowgli just laughs. * Baloo WAS NO DAMN HIPPY, and Kaa didn't want to want him (in fact, he was one of Mowgli's great teachers). Kaa even taught him how to talk to snakes, which saves Mowgli's life when he's in a pit of cobras. (7:59 - 8:24) Also, Bagheera was hanging out and spoke for Mowgli because he knew that Mowgli would be key in getting rid of Shere Khan once and for all. Being raised in captivity, he shows Mowgli the worn patch on his neck, where he once wore a majestic collar, he knew of Men better than any creature in the Jungle.
Gotta agree with most of what you say but the pronunciation of Mowgli. In India, we have always pronounced it as Mow-glee (possible with less stress on the "o"). Also, every time someone pronounces Akela as A-KEY-La I start to cringe. It's A-kae-la (lone / alone / solitary).
It would be nice to cover why the story was written. It's more messed up ... and it's very interesting. Who Rudyard Kipling was, and why he was exploring whether humans without human society and particularly without human language would turn out all right, is a really fascinating part of the story's background.
I wish you had also covered The Second Jungle Book. This includes Letting in the Jungle (where Mowgli puts a serious smackdown on the village when they try to kill his adopted parents), The King's Ankus (where Mowgli & Kaa find out how much trouble a gem encrusted dagger can be), Red Dog (where dingoes run wild in the jungle, Akela dies, & Mowgi uses a swarm of killer bees), The Spring Running (where Mowgi discovers that not everything about being human sucks), & finally How Fear Came (which occurred before Mowgi kills Shere Khan). This is any awesome addition to the first book! If you haven't read it, do! 🐺🐺🐺
meh, if you have the full story the entire village eventually gets murdered. there's this entire battle with wild dogs. oh and the story of the wild seals discribes some good ol' seal clubbing.
sm e No he wasn’t! People like you simply drastically misinterpret Rudyard’s words in his books! And you also seem to completely forget that Kipling lived in a completely different era and society! Everyone’s attitude was different back then! So basically if Kipling was alive today he wouldn’t be Racist!
There are actually a few more chapters to Mowgli's story than just the three. In the version I have, they make up at least half the stories in there. But, seeing as how they weren't adapted into the movie, I can see why going through them in this video would be a bit much, and would leave you with a rather long video. I definitely recommend everyone else read them if they can though! Also, super glad more people will know that Kaa is a good guy in the stories (he's even a close friend and teacher for Mowgli later on). Biggest pet peeve of mine is every movie making him into a villain.
YES! I think having Kaa as a villain fits into the usual bias against snakes that Disney was tapping. All their snakes, like Sir Hiss, were villains. Oh, and the further Mowgli stories come in "The Second Jungle Book." Also by Kipling.
Nechtan Tobar Segais I'll have to watch those some day. I remember seeing one once, but the most I remember was that Bagheera was female, which felt so strange.
Henry Stephens Definitely. Poor snakes. They deserve better representation. I guess the kindle version I got combines both of those then, so they just all seemed like one package.
It would have been good for them to be mentioned though, two of the stories demonstrate the role of the elephants in the jungle, which sharply contrasts Disney, not to mention it touches on how well suited to survival Mowgli became, which is also really important since... Disney pretty much decided he'd be what you'd expect if an entitle brat with the ability to talk to animals was just dropped into the jungle
"We all say so, it must be true" - the Bandar-log. i often think of that aspect of group behavior and how Kipling nailed it. facts don't matter, just shouts, and group think.
Raksha actually means protection not "the demon"... the word for demon in hind would be Rakshasa (pronounced like Raak+shus, though they would more resemble a race of orcs rather than any demons in any western mythology) old timey Hindi to English translations are ... strangely weird. also Akela would be "the alone one" in a badass kind of way not a sad lonely kind of way. Baloo closely resembles the Hindi word for bear probably because some of the alphabets in the Hindi word for Bear don't exist in the English alphabetical order. Baghera is one of the variations of the word for Panther in Hindi. Sher actually is the word for Lion, though that could be a regional variation thing, India does after all have like 1600+ different dialects many of which are full fledged languages with their own writing scripts. Also, weirdly Lungri is the Hindi word for a Female with one or both crippled legs, kinda derogatory in a mocking way.
Well Raksha also is the name of a deity which in Abrahamic religions thought of as a demon so don't waste your time It's not the language it's just what they are thought of Also in Buddhism this word is used to mean something along the lines of yaksha
@@lilith666line2 Since the story is set in India, I can tell you where Kipling got all the names from n Acezzeus is right n your pathetic whitesplaining(don't have to be white to do it, colonial mentality is enough) invalidation attempt is wrong.
@@prongs4137 well we should probably go back to how actually people believe what they mean It has nothing to do with what you are talking about here and whitesplaining are you fucking dumb or what you did not get my comment or are not perceptive??
@@prongs4137 As an indian, you embarrass me with your low mentality. whitesplaining isnt a real thing and if it was then Kipling is doing it amirite? Smh people having a soft discourse and you just run in here like a bull in a china shop REEE-ing about colonialism. pitiful
@@war1ock241 The fact that you think your claim to my nationality despite your obvious lack of any knowledge about India or Indian culture excuses your colonial bootlicking is disgusting. You call invalidation n then straight up abuse towards me on being called out for it "soft discourse". I'm embarrassed that people like you roam the earth calling themselves Indians using elitist racist pretense of civility for tone policing. Go bother someone else with your bitching n moaning. Colonial trash.
Dude, how are you making a living out of this channel? You’re making just under $1k/month on average, your patreon and TH-cam earnings combined; that’s nothing. You deserve much more for the in-depth research you do for your videos!
Maybe they could portray Kaa like Loki is portrayed in the original norse mythology. Not exactly evil, only chaotic. It could go like this. Just like when we take drugs to escape from our own reality, I think Mowgli himself could ask Kaa to hypnotise him and play with him as if he was his personal toy whenever he's unhappy at his village and wishes to forget his life.
But that would not be Kaa, and certainly not Mowgli. In the book when Kaa starts her dance to hypnotize the monkeys Baloo and Bagheera, tell Mowgli to look away or he too will fall prey to the python, both of them clearly scared of becoming part of Kaa's dinner, but Mowgli tells them it's just a snake doing stupid circles in the ground, completely unaffected by Kaa's dance. (Then he gets scolded since that snake just saved his life and what not.) Further along the book, Mowgli spends a few chapeters with Kaa, who teaches him a few lessons, and show's him a few interesting things, for Kaa is so old she's one of the wisest animals. And when Kaa and Mowgli hang out usually Kaa coils up so that Mowgli can lay down ontop of her body as a sort of comfortable chair.
Kinda mad I never watched the Netflix one, I think I was annoyed with all the live action Disney stuff for some reason getting made so I ignored it. But now I’ll definitely watch it.
@@Marcos.c That's nothing scary at all. I've heard and seen way worse as a kid. Stories like these help kids understand what choice and consequence is, and that helps them become better at making choices in their lives. The world today is full of pussies.
This is the law of the jungle as old and as true as the sky the wolf that shall keep it may prosper but the wolf that shall break it must die as the creeper that girdles the tree trunk the law runeth forward and back for the strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack
@@albindominic5737 Notice it's the strength, not every part of their life. And it still says the strength of the pack is the wolf; the INDIVIDUAL! Also nothing about a leader.
Kinda late to the party here but my favorite Jungle Book movie is the 1942 live action version with Sabu. It is well adapted from the books and is gorgeously filmed. I also like the Soviet version animated by Soyuzmultifilm as it is closer to Kipling's version than the Disney animated film from the 60's and the art work is beautifully stylistic. Last time I looked both were available on TH-cam.
It is a damn shame that Jon only has a million subscribers. This is one of the most creative and interesting channels on all of youtube IMO. With so many people that love Disney, I would think that more people would be interested.
I truly appreciate how much care and research you put into these stories and bringing to light A lot of classical literature and authors that may be a lot of young people have never heard of
For those of you who were Cub Scouts, Rudyard Kipling was on the founding Board of Directors when the Cub Scouts were formed, hence the many Jungle Book references.
I love the first live action movie, especially when Mowgli is leading the white men to the treasure and Bagheera is spotted. I can't remember what the white guy said, but Mowgli responded with "because to him, you are food" - one of my favorite movie lines
I actually read the book when I was a smaller child, and despite it being a lot darker than the 1967 movie, I honestly grew up with both. There were a lot of things in the book I didn't notice quite as much as a kid when I first read it, but I loved it even back then, and now that I am older, I love it even more, probably my favourite book ever. The Disney film also has a special place in my heart, again, you can kinda say I grew up with both of these and always looked at them as two separate things that both really worked for different reasons.
The Jungle Book is probably one of my favorite books of all time, and that says a lot since I'm a bookworm! Riki Tiki Tavi is my favorite of all the short stories. Kipling's way with words was phenomenal.
Zena222 do you mean the Chuck Jones one? Yah! There were live action and animated versions of the same story made in the Soviet era of Russia, but fourteen years apart! The animated film came first, in 1965, while the live action version was released later, in 1979.
Slapstick Genius you're right! I didn't know about the live action. The animated was '75 but I just remember seeing it in the '80s on Saturday mornings.
So the monkeys in the original Jungle Book tale are basically the Hyenas in the Lion King. ... Raksha: "Everything the grass touches is our jungle." Mowgli: "Wow...What about that rocky place over there?" Raksha: "That is the monkey territory. You must never go there."
Fun Fact: The animated series TaleSpin was loosely based on The Jungle Book. It had Baloo, Louie and Shere Khan. It didn't have Bagheera, Kaa or Hathi, but it did have Shere Khan's pilots that look like the panther, and the villain Thaddeus Klang was an expy of Kaa, although he was a cobra and not a python. Jim Cummings voiced Kaa in the prequel series Jungle Cubs, reprised his role in Villains At The House Of Mouse and in the sequel The Jungle Book 2. Jim also voiced Louie in TaleSpin and voiced his identical twin brother Larry in an episode of House Of Mouse. Although Louie didn't appear in The Jungle Book 2, he appeared in the cutscenes and was once again voiced by Jim. The late Tony Jay voiced Shere Khan in TaleSpin, episodes of House of Mouse and the aforementioned sequel. Jim also voiced Bagheera and Hathi in the DVD cutscenes. Also, Cree Summer took over as Louie's voice actorin the second season. I don't remember the original's name. Hathi was voiced by Rob Paulsen in the first season and Stephen Furst (who voiced Booster in Buzz Light-year of Star Command and Tantor in the Tarzan movie) in the second season.
@@crixxxxxxxxx that's a rabbit hole you're going down. At *some* point the _Homo_ genus decided to start clothing itself. Or at least wearing enough to cover the _'bare necessities'_ (see what i did there?)
I was just surprised at this because in tn the movies, both the animated original and the live action remake, Mowgli still had that cloth diaper looking thing. I wonder if this was the same with Tarzan. Him being naked in the original book and his iconic loincloth not coming in until the earliest films.
I learned three things from this thing: 1. Mothers are badass roasters in the jungle 2. Even animals are racist (the monkeys) 3. Animals really like abusing their kids. Badly. Soo... I guess, the more you know? XD
I've been watching your messed up origins for a while and I have to say by far this is my favorite TH-cam channel. Very informative and interesting, your delivery is spot on. Great Job can't wait to see what's coming in 2019!❤❤❤
I recently found your channel and I love these vids! It's a mix of nostalgia and being mindblown about the real stories behind childhood classics. You're a great storyteller!
You did a damn good job, Solo man-cub. I highly identified with the original book as a young girl---and probably read it all at least 10 times through. You left out one thrilling tale that is often overlooked, however. There is another story of Mowgli when he is about 17 years old, and he's in peak physical condition, a Master Hunter ~ well known and respected throughout the jungle. Then word comes that an invasion of the Dhole, the 'Red Dogs' is heading their way. Will Mowgli defeat the enormous pack of red dogs before they bring chaos and their bullying, greedy, devouring ways? Let's see if you can hunt down that rare chapter and read it for yourself. Personally---I loved the songs and poetry of them along with all the rest, but then, I am getting old. They are a part of the literary art seldom used now-a-day. I appreciate you including excerpts from the text in your video. Thank you...even though my comment may never be read, as it's two years later, I just had to add it. Good Hunting!
From somewhere deep in memory this surfaced : "Now this is the law of the jungle, as old and as true as the sky, And the wolf that respects it will prosper, but the wolf that denies it will die, For the jackal may follow the tiger, but the cub when his whiskers are grown, Remember the wolf is a hunter, go out and find food of thine own!"
Cub right of the right of the yearling From all of his pack he may claim Full gorge once the killer has eaten And none may deny him the same Lair right is the right of the mother From all of her year she may claim One haunch of each kill for her litter, And none may deny her the same Like the creeper that girdles the treetrunk, The Law runs both forward and back. For the strength of the pack is the wolf, And the strength of the wolf is the pack
"The Adventures of Mowgli" is an old school animation movie and not an exact adaptation but closer than the old jungle book. And I think it has a very certain charm to it.
The Jungle Book is one of my all time favorite Disney animated movies but I absolutely loved Kipling's All the Mowgli Stories & The Jungle Book. Rikki Tikki Tavi is a classic in its own right. At least Sher Khan didn't fall over the edge of something...
I started to read the story you linked. I am already entranced in the story. It is written beautifully. Thank you for providing the link. My love for reading grows stronger Everytime I see your "Messed up origins" videos. ☺️♥️
So I just saw this video and I realized something. As you say when Messua calls Mowgli, Nathoo she's certain he's not her son since he doesn't respond. Well, of course not. Let's say he is their missing son, he wouldn't have heard that name for years so he wouldn't react upon hearing it. He would only react to the names from the jungle.
Do you know : The story revolves around Ḥayy ibn Yaqẓān, a little boy who grew up on an island in the Indies under the equator, isolated from the people, in the bosom of an antelope that raised him feeding him with her milk. Ḥayy has just learned to walk; imitating the sounds of antelopes, birds, and other animals in his surrounding, he learns the languages of the animals around him; and he learns to guide himself to the actions of animals by imitating their instinct. He makes his own shoes and clothes from the skins of the animal, studies the stars, till he reaches a higher level of knowledge of the finest of astrologist. His continuous explorations and observation of creatures and environment led him to gain great knowledge in natural science, philosophy and religion. He will conclude that, at the basis of the creation of the universe, a great creator must exist. Ḥayy ibn Yaqẓān lived a humble modest life as Sufi and forbade himself from eating meat. Once 30 years old, he meets the first human, landed on his isolated Island. By the age of 49, he will be ready to teach other people about the knowledge he gained throughout his life.
Dude, you do a great job at this. I just found ya & have pretty much been binge streaming your old content. Not once have I thought That’s x minutes I will never get back. Your 2 John Henry vids were the shit & I would really like to here Riki Tiki Tave if you haven’t done it! Thanks bro 😎
There is a second jungle book. The first story is How Fear Came. The animals gather at a waterhole at the Water Truce and Hathi the elephant tells them the story of how the jungle came to be. The next story is The King's Ankus in which Mowgli comes across an ancient sword unaware that men will kill each other to possess it. The third is Letting in the Jungle where Mowgli rescues Messua and her husband from the villagers as a result of them fostering him. They also believe he's a witch and he destroys the village with the help from Raksha and the wolf pack, Bagheera, and Hathi. The fourth story is Red Dog where the wolves are threatened to be wiped out by a marauding pack of dholes. Mowgli stops this with the help of Kaa. The final story is The Spring Running where Mowgli encounters Messua and he is torn between staying with her and returning to the jungle.
Mowgli is pretty much the original Solid Snake. One of the earliest examples I know of a "rookie" character who is thrown into the setting's harshest survival gauntlet only to just naturally get it all on lock down bit by bit. One of the reasons I am so unhappy about the way Konami fell from grace as one of the best video game companies is because, if you looked at the early demos of Hideo Kojima's Fox Engine, there was this "we could totally make a Jungle Book game with this" vibe to it. I don't think this was a coincidence. During that time, a lot of the director's inspiration was coming from some pretty standard classic literature curriculum type stuff, like Melville and such. It makes me really hope that once Kojima Productions expands to a certain point, they'll have the time and resources necessary to actually make a compelling Jungle Book game. I think a game where you play as a kid hero with survival mastery on par with that of the tough soldier archetype would just naturally catch on so well. :0
Matthew Hecht it’s interesting how Kipling used pseudo Sanskrit for his character names. Baloo is short for “bhallukha,” which means “bear” in Sanskrit. And “Bagheera” means “little tiger.” The Sanskrit word for tiger is “baagha.”
@@catshepherd3102 the sanskrit word for tiger is "vyāghra" which becomes bagheera or baagh in Hindi. Kipling set this story in forests of central India, and used the language of this region, which is a dialect of Hindi. Most words in Hindi are derived from Sanskrit, that is why they sound similar.
In the book's sequel, Mowgli learns the village will kill his foster parents. He decides to have all of his large animal friends destroy the village. Looks like Mowgli learned the bare necessities of revenge in the books.
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Love your orgin stories!! 👍
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Jon Solo It's about time. I been wanting to see this episode for a long time
Jon Solo dude u didn’t show my comment I was the one who started it
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“She doesn’t even go here” hahaha my favorite thing. “Pulling a mean girls” that’s so perfect
Bruh this is why i went to the comments cuz that was low key funny XD
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This explains the new Netflix Mowgli film. So much closer to the original story than Disney's adaption. Nice
Dominique94 It certainly is. I disliked the Disney cartoon. It made all the animals goofy.
Sybille Stahl exactly
If the CGI and voice actors were as good as the Disneys version, and had this plot line, it wouldve been pretty cool
If you want to see something as close as possible to the original story, search 'mowgli 1967' on here. Don't watch the dubbed version, watch the subbed original. Trust me.
Yeah you're right!!
You had a lot to cover with this story, but there is one detail about Bagheera that was left out.
In the course of the story, Bagheera reveals to Mowgli that he was born in captivity. When he got big enough, he decided he was a panther (black leopard) not a man's plaything, so he escaped.
To me, this adds a great dimension to the cat. Even after captivity, he had enough compassion that he stood up for the cub of the very creatures that mistreated him, and taught him to respect the jungle.
I think it's also shown in Jungle Book anime
Hence his exclamation, "By the broken lock that freed me!"
Bagheera was able to escape his cage because the lock was broken.
"I'll keep you updated on jungle news, little brother."
"Thanks Bro. Tell mom I said hi."
I died.
Would just like to mention that the sloth bear (Baloo) actually gets into real fights with tigers. It's always on sight. So good on them for accurately portraying animal conflicts.
the description of kaa beating up the monkeys is one of the most badass things i've ever seen
It's one of my favourite parts of the book. Every movie reiteration, I sit there hoping for them to show Kaa how he really is in the book instead of demonizing him just because he's a snake, and every time, I leave disappointed, as they change him into a villian, an idiot, or leave him out entirely.
The Adventures of Mowgli had Kaa vs the Bandar-log.
Approachable Lion watch the russian animated movie maugli
Approachable Lion In the Shonen Mowgli cartoon Kaa is pretty good
Approachable Lion Fingers Crossed It looks like Andy Serkis might finally bring us Kaa as a Good Guy (except voiced by a Female) like he is in the Books.
"Until he spots a pretty young thang" 😂
Ha!!!!!! XD
So This Is A More Foreign Version Of Adam And Eve!
"she doesn't even go here"
janiece warfield that girl did it on purpose!
Just like you
"She doesnt even go here!" I literally spit out my drink!!!!😂😂😂
I'm so on board with Kaa being a good guy! Usually snakes are the villains in popular culture, and it's refreshing to have a snake that's a hero for once!
I blame western society
@@willlyon7129And the muslims, greeks, egiptians and even indians, and many others. Snakes are associated with evil in many cultures
@@willlyon7129snakes are portrayed as bad guys because of the story of Adam and eve but viper from Kung Fu Panda despite being a snake is ironically the sweetest member of the furious five especially towards po while the others were mean to him at first
I saw Kaa as more of a neutral character, although he is definitely more good than bad.
You may not know this, but the original script of the Disney film was gonna be a hell of a lot darker than the version we got. The story would've been more line with what happened in the book, the wolves were gonna have much larger role, there were deleted songs such as "Song of the Seeonee", "Brother's All", and "The Mighty Hunter's". And the ending was gonna feature Mowgli being forced by Buldeo the hunter to lead him to the treasure chamber under monkey city. But then at some point during the journey, Mowgli would distract Buldeo as Shere Khan (who'd been following after them) would jump outta the bushes and attack, killing the hunter. Mowgli would then use the hunter's rifle to shoot the tiger in the face killing him instantly.
Imagine if they'd gone with that version.
That would have been so good
Sounds sick where do I find those deleted scenes
Sounds wonderful! 8 year old me wouldn't have liked it though.
I watched the netflix version of this movie the other night and as I listened to you explain the original story, the netflix adaptation seems to have followed the path of the original story way more closely than the disney animated film did.
The Lemon God I mean it’s a kid film
Hi
The only thing the disney cartoon had in common with the book was the characters, and the fact it was in a jungle. Other than that it pretty much is a different story all together.
"father wolf is like 'oh god what do you want.' " LOL
"Pulling a Mean Girls" gonna start using that now
*looks at Shere kaahn and points at him*
*ShE dOeSnT eVeN gO hErE!*
*sher khan
Why did I laugh so hard when he said "pretty young thang" 😂😂😂😂😂
Because it's funny
bad translation, the name Raksha dose not translates to "The Demon" but it actually means "protection".
Rakshasa is Demon
@JonSolo
It says it in the book, I have it, and her name is translated in the book as such, just like tabaque meant dish licker in that language. But perhaps Rudyard got it wrong, and mistranslated his own book.
@@JacobDreemurr Can you please tell me where exactly this happens in the book? Thanks. Because Kipling mostly named his characters fairly accurately, Bagheera is a play on the hindi word Baagh which is used for large jungle cats, Baloo is play on the word Bhaaloo which means a bear, Sher Khan is Sher (tiger) + a last name, Bandar Log is quite literally Monkey People. I always thought he named the mother wolf Raksha because Raksha quite literally means protection and it she who protects and adopts Mowgli as her own cub.
@@ShwetaGupta-hd6yk it's pretty accurate to this, though it eludes to him growing up, and returning to his adoptive human mother, as bageera pays the price of the bull to set him free of the jungle. He one day gets married, but it never goes into it in the story. This was a rather faithful adaptation.
Oh, and it's in the beginning of chapter one that it tells that.
@@JacobDreemurr
Is his book in multiple languages..?
I find it funny how Baloo and bagera's personalities were changed for the disney movie
Basically reversed, essentially.
joshua larkins That’s exactly what I said.
Shere khan’s death in the original book is like Mufasa’s death.
Max Mantell no it not cause scare the one who kills Mufasa by throwing him off the cliff if not for him doing that the he would have never died
brittany burney Rewatch the viedo and movie again.
Yep, the producers of Lion King wanted Mufasa to die in a way that would rob nothing of his considerable power, and what better way than having him trampled in a stampede? I think they were influenced by the Shere Khan's death.
I taught Shere Khan lived in the end of the Jungle book original story
Long live the king
that intro... ICONIC
Right? I love it!
It is wonderful
Honestly, the grand winner between the two would be the book version.
The book is a bit more... Realistic, loveable, and has suspense here and there. The part with the monkeys was funny and Kaa should have been a good guy in the Disney version. It makes kids now think that all snakes are associated with the devil. Its really nice to see (or rather read) him as a friend and mentor to Mowgli. Baloo is great as a teacher, Bageera was great too, Shere Kahn is not so childish (like how instead of killing Mowgli when he had the chance, he finishes the valture's song and counts to five before he attacks) and is a bit more, how would you say it? Tiger like. The book is a great way to show humans that animals too have laws and lives like us.
I didn't realize Rikki-Tikki-Tavi was also part of the jungle book. One of my favorites.
I read this with my son. He loved the story, and it lead into a cool story about haw my dad had a pet mongoose while fighting in Vietnam. The unit had it to keep the 17 species on venomous snakes found in that area away.
@@russelltreat6077 that's awesome!
I thought of the song. Not related. but I love that song
Aka Mongo the Mongoose if we're using _Jungle Cubs_ as a basis.
I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE RIKI TIKI TAVI, MAH CHILDHOOD!!!!!!!
This was my dads favorite movie to watch with me!! We would dance and sing to bear necessities, his favorite song. I miss him so much. RIP
Please do Messed up Origins about Alice in Wonderland!
Definitely 😁
Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland as a scathing satire on new controversial mathematic concepts, like imaginary numbers (you know, those things we learned about in high school). Carroll was super conservative and old school, and thought you'd have to be on drugs to believe in such advanced concepts.
Didn't he already?
He already did that one .o. Look good on all the video he made
Please do Messed up Origins about Oliver and Company!
I LOVE Rikki Tikki Tavi!! Used to watch that at my grandparent's house all the time :)
Same here. I bet they have it uploaded to TH-cam somewhere
Me too!
Yup! The Chuck Jones animated movies of Rudyard Kipling's works are stellar!! I got to watch them on Nickelodeon in 1990 when I was home sick from school! I loved them so much I got the books from the library. And then, I loved those even more than the cartoons! I was the same way with CJs Phantom Tollbooth, Dr. Dolittle, The Little Princess, Secret Garden, and much of the Grimm's/Anderson's fairy tales.
Late 1980s early 1990s Nick Jr. was truly spectacular! Special Delivery had the best shows! 😊✌️🕊️🌈
I used to watch it too! : )
I loved Pinwheel too!
The animation in this film still astounds me. The physics are all accurate, the way the rain drops off of Bageera’s ear, their specific walk cycles, the hair movements. It’s just really cool to see how hard they worked back then.
Here I am 2023 just now finding your channel and I can’t stop listening and watching! I put on your videos pop in my headphones and I work or get my day going. Hell I’ll be cooking and listening to your videos hours later! 🙌🏽👏🏽
Netflix saw this and made it a movie.
it's actually made by warner brothers tho
Also, they didn't make a movie from seeing this, the classic story is well-known. If u were just kidding, sorry for explaining the obvious!
Is okay. Yeah it was more of a joke. Also I’m aware that it was made by Warner bros but Netflix promoted it and paid for part of it so.....
@@kaiyas9464 let's get this bread epic gamers
Too bad the movie sucks
I have the beautifully illustrated children's book for Mowgli's Jungle Book. It's such a fun read and the illustrations are gorgeous.
I have the book version of Bambi xD
I'm jealous! Might have to find me one of those
I have all the Disney illustration books! Well, they're my dad's but I used to read them when I was little
No it's not from Disney's book line. It's based off the original tale.
I have one with Lassie.
In Tarzan, Jane’s dad mentions Rudyard Kipling. So if all Disney movies take place in the same universe, either Kipling was writing about true events and the movie was the precursor to the book, or The Jungle Book is a movie in-universe like Kill Bill to the Tarantinoverse
Probably the latter since Tarzan in universe took place during the 1900s long before the TV was invented and when cinema was in its infancy. It's probably just a book/movie in that universe. Plus, I don't think Kipling would be able to understand animals, even in the Disney universe. (Although, what makes it stranger is that Tale Spin had Shere Khan as a character and the new Ducktales series is connecting all the Disney Afternoon shows, so maybe he's a fictional character in the main universe and is a real person in the Ducktales universe.)
The Jungle book (1892) is older than Tarzan (1912) or Tale Spin.
Rudyard Kipling lived in India in the 19th century and he took inspirations from real life human kids raised in the Indian jungles by wild animals.
*"Tarantinoverse"* 😂
The 1994 Jungle Book film is a real combination of Mowgli and Tarzan.
There is a second jungle book that Rudyard Kipling wrote that has some additional flashback stories where Mowgli learns how the jungle came to be and more stories that go in-depth on Mowgli's life after what transpired in the first book killing Shere-Kahn, I'm currently reading it, it's pretty good. I'd recommend looking into it.
Do tell what happens after the main story is over
6:37 loved the writing style, choice of words, the considerate reading of each passage (it show how much respect the reader has for the book), the attitude of the proud parent and an alpha personality replay to a much fierce predator
seriously I need an audio-book of the jungle book in Jon solo voice
as for the story, it actually does explain how messed up our society is pretty accurately
Damn Mowgli was so much more badass than what Disney showed
Is it true that he killed all the villagers with the help of animals?
my language isn't english so i didn't understand the video well.
@@mersedehm.h1525 Nah. He just starved them out then called in Hathi the Elephant and his sons to wreck what was left of the village. The name of the chapter, I believe, was called 'Letting in the Jungle'.
I don't see why the Wolf Clan can't fight Shere Khan they out number him 10 to 1
@@jalenikezeue4114right since sheer khan is a smaller bengal tiger
@@Themercthatslides well i from india . in rathambore national park there are only 40 wolves left because they fear 500 leopards and 81 tigers . these tigers can kill crocodiles very easily . i think these wolves in the story would most likely not be himalayan wolf but smaller indian grey wolf which are about the size of wild dogs
I absolutely love the chapter with Kaa. It's my absolute favourite chapter because he's so badass! It really bugs me that Disney didn't want to depict snakes in a positive way in their movie adaptation, because Kaa was supposed to be like a mentor to Mowgli. The whole Scarlett Johansson casting in the live action was a disaster!
There's this cool anime called _Jungle Book Shōnen Mowgli_ and it's one of the closest adaptations to Kipling's book. Kaa is even more badass in this series! 😀
b1njjj95 Couldn’t Agree more mate. You might like Andy Serkis’s Mowgli which is now on Netflix a lot more than Disney’s recent remake. At least in Mowgli Kaa is portrayed as a Good guy except played by another Actress Cate Blanchett who does do a much better job than Scarlett Johansson.
@@cameronturk4388 Thanks for the recommendation! I'll check it out!
Also the chapter with the white cobra was so cool
Good voice, though.
Yeah, the movie version of him scared me as a kid. Still does to this day. I don't get why they made him a freaky villain
I also recommend reading *The Second Jungle Book.* It has more Mowgli stories including what happens to his human mother, a battle with the Dhole, and the final story.
The Messed Up Tragedy of The Jungle Book? So few people know how to pronounce "Mowgli." It's *NOT* Mowgli, like, "mowing the lawn." It's pronounced, "Mao-glee," like the Chinese word for "cat."
As far how DISNEY messed-up the story? Too many and I'm too tired to bother any more. Let's just sum my most annoying (no particular order):
* Akela would NEVER suggest getting rid of Mowgli. Once part of the pack, they were bound to protect him to the death, as he was to them, especially Akela.
* Father Wolf was not named "Rama." That was the name of the bull Mowgli rode when killing Shere Khan.
* Shere Khan is a WHITE tiger. This adds to the fear he strikes in the hearts of Men. With his limp, people in the village thought that he was the re0incarnation of an old money-lender. Mowgli just laughs.
* Baloo WAS NO DAMN HIPPY, and Kaa didn't want to want him (in fact, he was one of Mowgli's great teachers). Kaa even taught him how to talk to snakes, which saves Mowgli's life when he's in a pit of cobras.
(7:59 - 8:24) Also, Bagheera was hanging out and spoke for Mowgli because he knew that Mowgli would be key in getting rid of Shere Khan once and for all. Being raised in captivity, he shows Mowgli the worn patch on his neck, where he once wore a majestic collar, he knew of Men better than any creature in the Jungle.
Beautifully well done, Disney butchered it imo. The books are so much better ♥️♥️
Mao is Native American for cat too.. my tribe anyways
Gotta agree with most of what you say but the pronunciation of Mowgli. In India, we have always pronounced it as Mow-glee (possible with less stress on the "o"). Also, every time someone pronounces Akela as A-KEY-La I start to cringe. It's A-kae-la (lone / alone / solitary).
I thought it was pronounced as ‘more-glee’ I swear it is 😂
Molly O'Kami I'm pretty sure it is more like the way he says mowgli but without as much emphasis on the o sound and this is not Chinese
It would be nice to cover why the story was written. It's more messed up ... and it's very interesting. Who Rudyard Kipling was, and why he was exploring whether humans without human society and particularly without human language would turn out all right, is a really fascinating part of the story's background.
I wish you had also covered The Second Jungle Book. This includes Letting in the Jungle (where Mowgli puts a serious smackdown on the village when they try to kill his adopted parents), The King's Ankus (where Mowgli & Kaa find out how much trouble a gem encrusted dagger can be), Red Dog (where dingoes run wild in the jungle, Akela dies, & Mowgi uses a swarm of killer bees), The Spring Running (where Mowgi discovers that not everything about being human sucks), & finally How Fear Came (which occurred before Mowgi kills Shere Khan). This is any awesome addition to the first book! If you haven't read it, do! 🐺🐺🐺
The wild dogs of India are dholes. Dingoes live in Australia.
This one wasn't as messed up as I was expecting, so I was pleasantly surprised. It did seem to have a relatively happy ending.
meh, if you have the full story the entire village eventually gets murdered. there's this entire battle with wild dogs. oh and the story of the wild seals discribes some good ol' seal clubbing.
There are many left out parts and stories. The Jungle Book is full of messed up shit.
Also Rudyard kipling is a HUGE racist
@@theMRsome12 Only pussies would find that scary. The Jungle Book is not messed up.
sm e No he wasn’t! People like you simply drastically misinterpret Rudyard’s words in his books! And you also seem to completely forget that Kipling lived in a completely different era and society! Everyone’s attitude was different back then! So basically if Kipling was alive today he wouldn’t be Racist!
There are actually a few more chapters to Mowgli's story than just the three. In the version I have, they make up at least half the stories in there. But, seeing as how they weren't adapted into the movie, I can see why going through them in this video would be a bit much, and would leave you with a rather long video. I definitely recommend everyone else read them if they can though!
Also, super glad more people will know that Kaa is a good guy in the stories (he's even a close friend and teacher for Mowgli later on). Biggest pet peeve of mine is every movie making him into a villain.
The Russian animated adaptation, "The adventures of Mowgli" has Kaa as one of the good guys.
YES! I think having Kaa as a villain fits into the usual bias against snakes that Disney was tapping. All their snakes, like Sir Hiss, were villains. Oh, and the further Mowgli stories come in "The Second Jungle Book." Also by Kipling.
Nechtan Tobar Segais I'll have to watch those some day. I remember seeing one once, but the most I remember was that Bagheera was female, which felt so strange.
Henry Stephens Definitely. Poor snakes. They deserve better representation.
I guess the kindle version I got combines both of those then, so they just all seemed like one package.
It would have been good for them to be mentioned though, two of the stories demonstrate the role of the elephants in the jungle, which sharply contrasts Disney, not to mention it touches on how well suited to survival Mowgli became, which is also really important since... Disney pretty much decided he'd be what you'd expect if an entitle brat with the ability to talk to animals was just dropped into the jungle
Fun Fact: Mowgli's name was originally pronounced "Mau-glee".
Fun fact: That's how it's always pronounced in actual English-speaking countries (not America).
@@WiggaMachiavelli Fun fact: you're a delta bravo.
I was so confused why everyone said Mo-gli, as I've always said it as Mau-gli
In Hindi, Mowgli was originally pronounced Maoagli.
@@WiggaMachiavelli no I speak English not from America and over here literal at no one says it like that we say it correctly
“But that’s a story for grownups”
Me: the jungle por-
*Slaps
“ *What are you doing step bear!???* “
*"Step bear I'm stuck!*
Podcast - SørenCast Z okay boomer
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I love that mowgli's wold mom is named Raksha, literally meaning protection!!
Wolf* but yeah, that's really cool. All the names are pretty fitting
I’ll never get bored of a messed up origin story from Jon Solo
"We all say so, it must be true" - the Bandar-log. i often think of that aspect of group behavior and how Kipling nailed it. facts don't matter, just shouts, and group think.
Raksha actually means protection not "the demon"... the word for demon in hind would be Rakshasa (pronounced like Raak+shus, though they would more resemble a race of orcs rather than any demons in any western mythology) old timey Hindi to English translations are ... strangely weird. also Akela would be "the alone one" in a badass kind of way not a sad lonely kind of way. Baloo closely resembles the Hindi word for bear probably because some of the alphabets in the Hindi word for Bear don't exist in the English alphabetical order. Baghera is one of the variations of the word for Panther in Hindi. Sher actually is the word for Lion, though that could be a regional variation thing, India does after all have like 1600+ different dialects many of which are full fledged languages with their own writing scripts.
Also, weirdly Lungri is the Hindi word for a Female with one or both crippled legs, kinda derogatory in a mocking way.
Well Raksha also is the name of a deity which in Abrahamic religions thought of as a demon so don't waste your time
It's not the language it's just what they are thought of
Also in Buddhism this word is used to mean something along the lines of yaksha
@@lilith666line2 Since the story is set in India, I can tell you where Kipling got all the names from n Acezzeus is right n your pathetic whitesplaining(don't have to be white to do it, colonial mentality is enough) invalidation attempt is wrong.
@@prongs4137 well we should probably go back to how actually people believe what they mean
It has nothing to do with what you are talking about here and whitesplaining are you fucking dumb or what you did not get my comment or are not perceptive??
@@prongs4137 As an indian, you embarrass me with your low mentality. whitesplaining isnt a real thing and if it was then Kipling is doing it amirite? Smh people having a soft discourse and you just run in here like a bull in a china shop REEE-ing about colonialism. pitiful
@@war1ock241 The fact that you think your claim to my nationality despite your obvious lack of any knowledge about India or Indian culture excuses your colonial bootlicking is disgusting. You call invalidation n then straight up abuse towards me on being called out for it "soft discourse". I'm embarrassed that people like you roam the earth calling themselves Indians using elitist racist pretense of civility for tone policing. Go bother someone else with your bitching n moaning. Colonial trash.
Dude, how are you making a living out of this channel? You’re making just under $1k/month on average, your patreon and TH-cam earnings combined; that’s nothing. You deserve much more for the in-depth research you do for your videos!
Maybe they could portray Kaa like Loki is portrayed in the original norse mythology. Not exactly evil, only chaotic. It could go like this. Just like when we take drugs to escape from our own reality, I think Mowgli himself could ask Kaa to hypnotise him and play with him as if he was his personal toy whenever he's unhappy at his village and wishes to forget his life.
True
But that would not be Kaa, and certainly not Mowgli. In the book when Kaa starts her dance to hypnotize the monkeys Baloo and Bagheera, tell Mowgli to look away or he too will fall prey to the python, both of them clearly scared of becoming part of Kaa's dinner, but Mowgli tells them it's just a snake doing stupid circles in the ground, completely unaffected by Kaa's dance. (Then he gets scolded since that snake just saved his life and what not.) Further along the book, Mowgli spends a few chapeters with Kaa, who teaches him a few lessons, and show's him a few interesting things, for Kaa is so old she's one of the wisest animals. And when Kaa and Mowgli hang out usually Kaa coils up so that Mowgli can lay down ontop of her body as a sort of comfortable chair.
The new Mowgli movie on netflix is super spot on to your whole video. Mind blown
It was sad bhoot
Kinda mad I never watched the Netflix one, I think I was annoyed with all the live action Disney stuff for some reason getting made so I ignored it. But now I’ll definitely watch it.
@@Kara.Davis. yeah it was super sad
@@dyllanrodriguez2828 yes you definitely have to check it out
Messed up origin?? That was freaking adorable!
So you like that bagheera and baloo kill everyone in the village for not accepting mowgli
@@Marcos.c That's nothing scary at all. I've heard and seen way worse as a kid. Stories like these help kids understand what choice and consequence is, and that helps them become better at making choices in their lives.
The world today is full of pussies.
@@Marcos.c that's not what happened
whyualive • 55 years ago I do
RCMark • 55 years ago *Y E S*
I didn't know that Rikki Tikki Tavi was part of the Jungle Book book. I LOVE that story also!
Me too I want to get a jungle book copy
I played mowgil in a school play. It’s a hard part to play. Very dynamic character.
I appreciate Jon matching his shirt to the story. :)
What do you mean by that? Haha. Sorry I just wanted to know.
This is the law of the jungle as old and as true as the sky the wolf that shall keep it may prosper but the wolf that shall break it must die as the creeper that girdles the tree trunk the law runeth forward and back for the strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack
Hallelujah. :>
Few I’m not the only one that knows it off by heart
That's not a song kid, that propaganda
commies
@@albindominic5737 Notice it's the strength, not every part of their life. And it still says the strength of the pack is the wolf; the INDIVIDUAL!
Also nothing about a leader.
Before watching this video, I already knew that Kaa was more of an ally in the book, rather than a villain.
ShadowSora8491 Same here
Same as bro!
Scarlett Johansen was terrifying in the live action version.
Which really makes me upset how they change Kaa from helping Mowgli escape from the monkeys
I always saw Kaa as more of a neutral character, although he is more good than bad
Kinda late to the party here but my favorite Jungle Book movie is the 1942 live action version with Sabu. It is well adapted from the books and is gorgeously filmed. I also like the Soviet version animated by Soyuzmultifilm as it is closer to Kipling's version than the Disney animated film from the 60's and the art work is beautifully stylistic. Last time I looked both were available on TH-cam.
It is a damn shame that Jon only has a million subscribers. This is one of the most creative and interesting channels on all of youtube IMO. With so many people that love Disney, I would think that more people would be interested.
The Second Jungle Book is my favorite book. I especially love, "Red Dog," the penultimate chapter. It's just an epic, great story.
Yeees, was looking for this comment
Red Dog has the only battle scene that's ever made me cry.
Also the one with the white cobra
“Akela deal with this fool” lol this video was great !
I truly appreciate how much care and research you put into these stories and bringing to light A lot of classical literature and authors that may be a lot of young people have never heard of
The part about not getting a response to the name Nathoo makes perfect sense, ofc he wouldn’t know that name, he was too young to remember it
For those of you who were Cub Scouts, Rudyard Kipling was on the founding Board of Directors when the Cub Scouts were formed, hence the many Jungle Book references.
Cub Scouts is where I learned the original Kipling version of Jungle Book. I thought the story was so much cooler than the movie.
That's pretty awesome.
Wait why did Mowgli get punished for being kidnapped?
Well he did want to go with them in the first place
*_“pretty young thang”_*
😂😂😂😂 SORRY I CANT ITS TOO FUNNYYY HSBDBDEJEJ
Hahaha. I get you there brother.
I love the first live action movie, especially when Mowgli is leading the white men to the treasure and Bagheera is spotted. I can't remember what the white guy said, but Mowgli responded with "because to him, you are food" - one of my favorite movie lines
"Akila deal with this fool" Love this XD
I actually read the book when I was a smaller child, and despite it being a lot darker than the 1967 movie, I honestly grew up with both. There were a lot of things in the book I didn't notice quite as much as a kid when I first read it, but I loved it even back then, and now that I am older, I love it even more, probably my favourite book ever. The Disney film also has a special place in my heart, again, you can kinda say I grew up with both of these and always looked at them as two separate things that both really worked for different reasons.
Anyone had to read rikki-tiki- tavi for school?
Me
yes
Yes. I read it in 7th grade.
My favorite story in the Jungle Book
Yes
The Jungle Book is probably one of my favorite books of all time, and that says a lot since I'm a bookworm! Riki Tiki Tavi is my favorite of all the short stories. Kipling's way with words was phenomenal.
I liked the cobras in that story.
When are they gonna make live action versions of Rikki Tikki Tavi and White Seal?
Kristie Clark I doubt they'll make live versions. I still remember the animated Riki Tiki Tavi from the 80s.
Zena222 do you mean the Chuck Jones one? Yah! There were live action and animated versions of the same story made in the Soviet era of Russia, but fourteen years apart! The animated film came first, in 1965, while the live action version was released later, in 1979.
Slapstick Genius you're right! I didn't know about the live action. The animated was '75 but I just remember seeing it in the '80s on Saturday mornings.
I've read the original story as compared to watching the disney version and it will forever be one of my favourites.
Really Great Video.
So the monkeys in the original Jungle Book tale are basically the Hyenas in the Lion King.
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Raksha: "Everything the grass touches is our jungle."
Mowgli: "Wow...What about that rocky place over there?"
Raksha: "That is the monkey territory. You must never go there."
Which gives me a question, how did an orangutan end up in the jungle of India?
@@willlyon7129there is no orangutan in the original jungle book, he was only added in the Disney movie
I just like how you tell the origin of stories. Thank you, I like the funny comments and sarcastic remarks... keeps me coming back!!!
Fun Fact: The animated series TaleSpin was loosely based on The Jungle Book. It had Baloo, Louie and Shere Khan. It didn't have Bagheera, Kaa or Hathi, but it did have Shere Khan's pilots that look like the panther, and the villain Thaddeus Klang was an expy of Kaa, although he was a cobra and not a python. Jim Cummings voiced Kaa in the prequel series Jungle Cubs, reprised his role in Villains At The House Of Mouse and in the sequel The Jungle Book 2. Jim also voiced Louie in TaleSpin and voiced his identical twin brother Larry in an episode of House Of Mouse. Although Louie didn't appear in The Jungle Book 2, he appeared in the cutscenes and was once again voiced by Jim. The late Tony Jay voiced Shere Khan in TaleSpin, episodes of House of Mouse and the aforementioned sequel. Jim also voiced Bagheera and Hathi in the DVD cutscenes. Also, Cree Summer took over as Louie's voice actorin the second season. I don't remember the original's name. Hathi was voiced by Rob Paulsen in the first season and Stephen Furst (who voiced Booster in Buzz Light-year of Star Command and Tantor in the Tarzan movie) in the second season.
Wait. So Mowgli was completely naked throughout the original story except during his time with the man village? Not even a loincloth?
Completely naked. The only time he was clothed was in Tiger Tiger. All other chapters from the first and second books has him naked.
Why would a baby raised by wolves and isolated from other humans think to clothe himself?
@@crixxxxxxxxx that's a rabbit hole you're going down. At *some* point the _Homo_ genus decided to start clothing itself. Or at least wearing enough to cover the _'bare necessities'_ (see what i did there?)
P.C.J. Ngassa Adults in early societies decided to clothe themselves. Children alone in the jungle probably wouldn’t care.
I was just surprised at this because in tn the movies, both the animated original and the live action remake, Mowgli still had that cloth diaper looking thing. I wonder if this was the same with Tarzan. Him being naked in the original book and his iconic loincloth not coming in until the earliest films.
I learned three things from this thing:
1. Mothers are badass roasters in the jungle
2. Even animals are racist (the monkeys)
3. Animals really like abusing their kids. Badly.
Soo... I guess, the more you know? XD
Sounds like America
Kids (and adults) need to learn BOUNDARIES. Try it some time.
Willow-Creek-64 you’re pretty right about the story. Same for the animal kingdom of actuality.
I've been watching your messed up origins for a while and I have to say by far this is my favorite TH-cam channel. Very informative and interesting, your delivery is spot on. Great Job can't wait to see what's coming in 2019!❤❤❤
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There's a Netflix live action version that seams to be closer to the original story
It's actually Warner Bros. But I see what you mean.
It's not closer at all, it's just darker. The story is nothing like the novel.
@@matyaskassay4346 its still a litte closer tho
I agree when Bagheera lies to Kaa Saying those insults to Him it's really Funny
+Nicolás Cangeles Learn to use your notifications and replies. And stop just randomly type new threads and never reply in them.
Nicolás Cangele reckless as a wounded buffalo :)
I recently found your channel and I love these vids! It's a mix of nostalgia and being mindblown about the real stories behind childhood classics. You're a great storyteller!
"Thanks bro! Tell Mom I said hi." 😂
You did a damn good job, Solo man-cub. I highly identified with the original book as a young girl---and probably read it all at least 10 times through. You left out one thrilling tale that is often overlooked, however. There is another story of Mowgli when he is about 17 years old, and he's in peak physical condition, a Master Hunter ~ well known and respected throughout the jungle. Then word comes that an invasion of the Dhole, the 'Red Dogs' is heading their way. Will Mowgli defeat the enormous pack of red dogs before they bring chaos and their bullying, greedy, devouring ways? Let's see if you can hunt down that rare chapter and read it for yourself. Personally---I loved the songs and poetry of them along with all the rest, but then, I am getting old. They are a part of the literary art seldom used now-a-day. I appreciate you including excerpts from the text in your video. Thank you...even though my comment may never be read, as it's two years later, I just had to add it. Good Hunting!
Seems a lot of people don't even realize there was a Second Jungle Book. I love both of them!
From somewhere deep in memory this surfaced :
"Now this is the law of the jungle, as old and as true as the sky,
And the wolf that respects it will prosper, but the wolf that denies it will die,
For the jackal may follow the tiger, but the cub when his whiskers are grown,
Remember the wolf is a hunter, go out and find food of thine own!"
How did you remember this
@@isabellabean1933
It just stuck in my mind at an early age, though I'm a bit hazy about the middle line ...
Cub right of the right of the yearling
From all of his pack he may claim
Full gorge once the killer has eaten
And none may deny him the same
Lair right is the right of the mother
From all of her year she may claim
One haunch of each kill for her litter,
And none may deny her the same
Like the creeper that girdles the treetrunk,
The Law runs both forward and back.
For the strength of the pack is the wolf,
And the strength of the wolf is the pack
5:22 Now I understand why in Mowgli legends of the jungle movie why Shere Khan has a bent paw when he walks....
Lael Wildgoose he might have been hurt by his own estranged mother, who kicked him out of her den when he grew up.
Baloo is my favorite character!
Hay could you do a mess up origins of 101 Dalmatians , if there is one ????
Love your videos. Came across your channel yesterday and have been binging ever since. Liking the fact that you got a shere khan on your shirt too.
"The Adventures of Mowgli" is an old school animation movie and not an exact adaptation but closer than the old jungle book. And I think it has a very certain charm to it.
And the wolf dad is like “oh god what do you want”
I LAUGHED SO HARD XDDDDD
The Jungle Book is one of my all time favorite Disney animated movies but I absolutely loved Kipling's All the Mowgli Stories & The Jungle Book. Rikki Tikki Tavi is a classic in its own right. At least Sher Khan didn't fall over the edge of something...
Well researched and that shirt is so on theme! 🔥🔥
I started to read the story you linked. I am already entranced in the story. It is written beautifully. Thank you for providing the link. My love for reading grows stronger Everytime I see your "Messed up origins" videos. ☺️♥️
I've jus become hip to your channel and i jus wanna thank you for the education and entertainment for me an my children as well
So I just saw this video and I realized something. As you say when Messua calls Mowgli, Nathoo she's certain he's not her son since he doesn't respond. Well, of course not. Let's say he is their missing son, he wouldn't have heard that name for years so he wouldn't react upon hearing it. He would only react to the names from the jungle.
Do you know : The story revolves around Ḥayy ibn Yaqẓān, a little boy who grew up on an island in the Indies under the equator, isolated from the people, in the bosom of an antelope that raised him feeding him with her milk. Ḥayy has just learned to walk; imitating the sounds of antelopes, birds, and other animals in his surrounding, he learns the languages of the animals around him; and he learns to guide himself to the actions of animals by imitating their instinct.
He makes his own shoes and clothes from the skins of the animal, studies the stars, till he reaches a higher level of knowledge of the finest of astrologist. His continuous explorations and observation of creatures and environment led him to gain great knowledge in natural science, philosophy and religion. He will conclude that, at the basis of the creation of the universe, a great creator must exist. Ḥayy ibn Yaqẓān lived a humble modest life as Sufi and forbade himself from eating meat.
Once 30 years old, he meets the first human, landed on his isolated Island. By the age of 49, he will be ready to teach other people about the knowledge he gained throughout his life.
Missile1 possibly the first notable fictional wild child.
Lmao Why can I imagine Kaa, entering the Monkey Ruin Like *WHICH ONE OF YOU BITCHES CALLED ME A YELLOW EARTH WORM!*
Dude, you do a great job at this. I just found ya & have pretty much been binge streaming your old content. Not once have I thought That’s x minutes I will never get back. Your 2 John Henry vids were the shit & I would really like to here Riki Tiki Tave if you haven’t done it! Thanks bro 😎
3:14 Volture: "You can let go now, Baloo!"
Baloo: "Are you kiddin? There's *teeth* in the other end!"
There is a second jungle book. The first story is How Fear Came. The animals gather at a waterhole at the Water Truce and Hathi the elephant tells them the story of how the jungle came to be. The next story is The King's Ankus in which Mowgli comes across an ancient sword unaware that men will kill each other to possess it. The third is Letting in the Jungle where Mowgli rescues Messua and her husband from the villagers as a result of them fostering him. They also believe he's a witch and he destroys the village with the help from Raksha and the wolf pack, Bagheera, and Hathi. The fourth story is Red Dog where the wolves are threatened to be wiped out by a marauding pack of dholes. Mowgli stops this with the help of Kaa. The final story is The Spring Running where Mowgli encounters Messua and he is torn between staying with her and returning to the jungle.
Mowgli is pretty much the original Solid Snake. One of the earliest examples I know of a "rookie" character who is thrown into the setting's harshest survival gauntlet only to just naturally get it all on lock down bit by bit. One of the reasons I am so unhappy about the way Konami fell from grace as one of the best video game companies is because, if you looked at the early demos of Hideo Kojima's Fox Engine, there was this "we could totally make a Jungle Book game with this" vibe to it. I don't think this was a coincidence. During that time, a lot of the director's inspiration was coming from some pretty standard classic literature curriculum type stuff, like Melville and such. It makes me really hope that once Kojima Productions expands to a certain point, they'll have the time and resources necessary to actually make a compelling Jungle Book game. I think a game where you play as a kid hero with survival mastery on par with that of the tough soldier archetype would just naturally catch on so well. :0
According to Kipling it is pronounced Mow-ghli. Mow rhymes with Cow.
Matthew Hecht it’s interesting how Kipling used pseudo Sanskrit for his character names. Baloo is short for “bhallukha,” which means “bear” in Sanskrit. And “Bagheera” means “little tiger.” The Sanskrit word for tiger is “baagha.”
@@catshepherd3102 the sanskrit word for tiger is "vyāghra" which becomes bagheera or baagh in Hindi. Kipling set this story in forests of central India, and used the language of this region, which is a dialect of Hindi. Most words in Hindi are derived from Sanskrit, that is why they sound similar.
Raghav my education has expanded :) Thank you, Sir.
@@catshepherd3102 probably because English was his second language. Hindi was his first.
14:38 that shot looks epic
In the book's sequel, Mowgli learns the village will kill his foster parents. He decides to have all of his large animal friends destroy the village. Looks like Mowgli learned the bare necessities of revenge in the books.