And don’t have elective surgery! You could end up way worse off than before. 😂 It was so sad seeing how desperate Virginia was for youth and beauty-so accurate with how society is today.
Now that you mention it, I thought it was odd the college friend new she was waiting to meet her boyfriend. But why would she care or feel a need to compete when she already won? That whole thing makes no sense.
I thought this episodes production, directing and acting were some of the best this season and IMO the show overall. But Sadly it still fell victim to same issues that the entire AHS universe suffers from recently, writing and pacing. I agree that if they had've edited and cut down some scenes and added a little more of the cult aspect, I think this could've been a banger of an episode. Also 100% no lie, as soon as the Doctor came on screen I immediately thought of Death Becomes Her and Isabella Rossellini, such an underrated movie. Thanks for your review.
The runtimes are SUPER short for these stories and each episode has the same formula of a big ending reveal. It would have been interesting if her bandages came off halfway through accidentally. I’m curious if this group exists in the regular AHS world. Fiona probably was a member at one point 😂
I’m not sure if I believe that anymore because although some episodes refer back to the main show (rubber woman episodes, dollhouse, etc) you have episodes where catastrophic events take place like in “Drive In” where it seems like the world is going to end.
Unravels her bandages While she was on her pain meds then gasps and quickly wraps them back up in a half-assed manner, thinking "It's just a hallucination from the medications."
This universe? There is only one universe: the American Horror Story universe. Everything you see in AHS AND in AHStories takes place within that one universe, so basically the woman turned into a pig could visit the Murder House and Hotel Cortez in LA, the coven in New Orleans, the colony of Roanoke, etc.
The doctor definitely reminded me of Isabella Rossellini in Death Becomes Her. The episode started off so well. I love Judith Light. But the ending was terrible. It would have been interesting if Judith's character's bandages were really hiding a cocoon like skin, similar to a butterfly. At the reveal party she could had hunted Faye down for her final transformation, sacrificing her to become young again.
The endings are always what pisses me off. It’s like, we can imagine and write better than the actual writers. All shows for that matter. I feel like some shows should listen to their fans, and pull some people in for their ideas. Idk. I’m always disappointed since AHS season 4. I want more ties to the main show, like Dollhouse. They can use this show to expand more on the main show, and tie up loose ends.
The mom was selfish and only cared about herself. The daughter kept calling her mom but she always had to remind her she was her stepdaughter. I don’t think she cared about the daughter or thought of her as her family. Faye genuinely loved and cared for her that’s why she followed her to make sure she was safe. I think it was about them bringing out her true self. She was ugly on the inside so the dr brought the ugly outside. I think she deserved that part but I don’t think she deserved to be hunted down 😂. I really liked the episode. The ending was okay I just like the hunted part as the ending better. I hope they tie this episode to another episode so stuff can be explained a little more.
I think she was also supposed to be representing how a person could be ugly on the inside. She firstly goes into the office accusing the Dr of trying to scam her into being a client then gets into how she thinks and feels she is ugly. Then she gets home after the surgery and for the first time reminds her daughter she's just the step daughter. Then even tho the step daughter is trying so hard she still shoves her off for a "better" opportunity. Then lastly when the daughter shows up, worried, she then again repats to the Dr that she isn't her daughter just her step daughter kind of disowning her. I also think when she says she doesn't have any friends and she even ran off her maid I think thats why the dr agreed because she proved how selfish and ugly she was inside. Everything she did in the episode was for herself. Even putting herself into more debt. And I also agree it would be nice if they slowed down a bit and gave us more thrills and less set ups...because i pretty much understood what was happening after that first visit lol all the at home stuff could have been completely cut out.
the plastic surgeon lady looks very much like Lisle Von Rhuman ; the Beautiful lady in ‘Death Becomes Her’ That gives the main characters a special potion to stay young beautiful. This had to have been on purpose! Death Becomes Her is not only an iconic film, but first of many that deals with themes of beauty and how far people are willing to go for beauty.
This is seriously just like that twilight zone episode flipped. I was underwhelmed. Didn’t feel original at all. But as always, I live for your reviews! Love you! ❤️❤️
This episode left me with so many questions. None of it made sense. But like you said, if it wasn't for Judith Light being the star, I wouldn't have found it enjoyable. Sidenote, I can't wait for you to do Nip/Tuck!
If you guys havent seen the original twilight zone this episode is heavily influenced by an episode called "eye of the beholder" they even used the same pig face they just twisted the story. Got some AHS Cult vibes in here too. I think this is the 2nd best episode this season next to dollhouse.
For me it was okay but some things were just so random, like that ending... I haven't been liking Manny Coto's writing lately but I honestly enjoyed the story. The acting was probably the best thing of this episode! In my opinion, Rebecca Dayan was a great addition to ahs in general and Judith was amazing as always. Looking foward to the final two episodes and to your reviews of them! :)
@@EJMoreno it really was. and the way that her step daughter joined them at the end was very side too, it didn't matter if her biological mother was apart of the cult :( besides from that i was not a fan of this episode at all, just because of the situation of how she wanted to be happy with her appearance and the plastic surgeon gave her a pig face.
Agreed, Judith Light transformed this character as written and gave her a voice. Watching the cruelty inflicted on her disturbed me. She might have been silly and difficult, but her stepdaughter cared enough about her to sneak into her suv to follow her bc she was worried, which told me that she was worth loving. Watching the cruelty inflicted on a sad person who just wanted to feel pretty again was just ugly.
Ioved the acting Judith and the Isabella reference death becomes her. I knew some kind of weird cult stuff was going to happen. But I thought they where going to sacrifice the step daughter and she was going to enter the cult. Still better than the first season though. I just didn't want another bummer ending. Thank you for the reviews as usual you are on point!
This reminded me alot about the eye of the beholder episode from the twilight zone. Fairly good episode but too short, i want to know more about the beauty cult and Faye's bio parents.
Is anyone else watching this because the episode is messed up on Hulu and you can’t see past where the doctor said I want to do your reveal publicly tonight? I haven’t seen anything past that because it just goes into commercial and then starts over
I think they should make the episodes an hour + like they do with AHS episodes so the episodes are flushed out and we are satisfied with the entire storylines of the episodes.
This episode also seems to be a big homage to the Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder". If you haven't seen it, you can see why it's a reference if you look up photos from the episode.
Love you EJ! This episode gave me Death Becomes Her vibes but obviously much darker. The surgeon even reminded me of the bombshell surgeon in DBH, LOVED IT!!!!
I think the butterfly tattoo aspect of this, is a homage to Hostel. All members have an Elite hunting tattoo in hostel that tells each other who they are.
I did fall asleep on some of it, I thought it was because I was tired from working overnight lol. The story was great, just didn't do a complete storytelling job for me. I did like the Death Becomes Her and Twilight Zone references. The black and white version of course! This could have been made a little better that's for sure.
Sorry you are sick friend..I have been sick for a month with pneumonia...I miss oxygen..I hope you feel better soon love...this one was weird and intriguing at the same time...but could be the meds as well :) thank you for reviewing even though you felt awful ...that is dedication..side note..you still looked fabulous..I also got the death becomes her vibe..did anyone else notice that picture in the dr office of the pig getting hunted and stabbed with spears? The black and white photo in her office? A little foreshadowing...
I think the ending in a way was trying to say that the main character was "ugly" on the outside but also on the inside. Her daughter kept trying to help her because she cared about her, but her step mother kept throwing her under the bus over and over in lieu of her own selfish desire. In the end the only character that had that inner beauty became beauty on the outside. Kind of brings the message of the surgeon full circle. Even though in my opinion they weren't that successful with quite pulling it off.
@@dannyt7269 It's not really a theory It's just what I think they were going for with the message. The members in the cult weren't "good" people necessarily but they thought highly of themselves while Virginia thought she was hideous. They had to love themselves in order to be beautiful. Even though they sacrificed someone, they may have been positive people otherwise, as the doctor kept pushing for a positive mindset
I was definitely getting Isabella Rossellini vibes from the doctor but I also was thinking of the twilight zone episode where the girl is undergoing plastic surgery because she’s hideous and everyone around her is beautiful and then the twist is that according to our society she is actually the beautiful one and everyone else is “ugly” because they have pig noses but obviously it is not so in their society. I was legitimately thinking about this episode as I was watching because of the plastic surgery and bandages and stuff and I wasn’t even expecting at the end for them to have turned her into a pig. I was like omg how did I not think of that🙄😂
❤️ Judith Light. Kinda reminded me of the Twilight Zone surgery pig nose episode. I was not expecting that. I was expecting Judith Light’s search for youth to mimic Death Becomes Her but with a cult-like twist in the end in order to maintain her beauty. People do just about anything in true life in search of the Fountain of Youth. I mean the urine part of the episode is true. Gross, but true. Great job, as always! You always make me laugh and smile with your reviews. Oh, and Bella…🤣 Can’t wait to see the final episode with Alicia Silverstone.
This one reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode “The Eye of The Beholder”, but the surgeries were reversed. I hope the people who have seen that episode know what I mean.
FInally! A great episode after nearly two whole seasons! This is exactly what this show should be. Honestly, they have got to stop handing the show over to the youth...they absolutely butcher it. None of the young talent have been strong enough to carry the absurd themes of this show. None of them. I struggle to even call most of them 'talent'. This episode had me in suspense and I felt sick at the horrors at the end. Truly so great. I shudder to look through the comments as I do worry that these comments will somehow affect the outcome of what we have for future seasons. Perhaps the same people who dismissed the superb Cult season of AHS that resulted in the two worst seasons we've had. Perhaps even the people who champion that awful, *awful* doll episode of this season as some kind of saviour? Whatever. This episode was excellent!
@@EJMoreno Oh yeah Gabourey was amazing in her episode...just the material failed her. I thought Cody was average to bad in his episode and I also hated the episode. I also thought he was horrendously bad last season. His turn as Michael is still his absolute best.
I forgot I was watching AHS for the first 20 minutes of this episode. I’m saying that in a good way not in a bad way. This episode was OK it wasn’t bad but it wasn’t anything exciting or great. The pig face unwrapping reminded me of an episode of the twilight zone they did something kind of like that.
@@EJMoreno Me and my bff are fanatics for classic horror. My Dad would watch the old Alfred Hitchcock Presents and Twilight Zone and I’d go sit next to him and enjoy. I’m the youngest of six so by the time I came around my parents didn’t care what I watched they were to worn out by my siblings. 😂
The surgery stuff is pretty creepy and I often say gaslighting is the scariest thing in horror. It’s not a perfect episode but I did like it more on a revisit than I expy
Death Becomes Her is one my absolute favorite movies! I saw the parallels and I got excited! They just couldn’t stick the landing (as usual ) but I think it’s better than the last few episodes (sn: I was so disappointed in Bloody Mary, i just knew it would be the highlight of the season). I think they might revisit Coven or another AHS season by the end of this season.
the actress who played the daughter in this ep plays a lead character in the series 'Severance'! an absolutely brilliant series which is underrated bc it was made by AppleTv+. and SHE WAS AMAZING IN IT!!! I was hyped to see her here lol. Severance is like a season-long-episode of Black Mirror (but even better!), so if you like that type of show you should absolutely check it out! it has 97% ratings on rotten tomatoes rn. the finale ep got me on the edge of my seat the whole time. 11/10 would reccommend 🔥🔥
I ❤️ your shirt!! And yes, I agree with your review. It was nice but nothing special. Judith Light is iconic and I kind of anticipated some craziness with the reveal of her face but, yeah it was just ok for me.
@@EJMoreno Exactly. Like choose who your main person was. If they were gonna do this reveal for Faye. They should of focused on her and how she’s being treated by her stepmom or that she felt like an ugly duckling.
I’m here for your Nip/Tuck review!! After I’m sure another disappointing season of AHS we need a old RM show to digest. And Nip tuck is so bad it’s good!
Ej I’d like to know what you think happened to the Carver and his sister at the end of the third season. Also I didn’t like the fact they kinda just forgot about the story of Eden poisoning Julia. Cant wait to watch.
The episode was mehhhh but when you said you would be doing nip/tuck I literally squealed!!! NOONE on TH-cam did that show I’ve been searching for years!!! I more excited about that than AHS 11 lol
I really enjoyed seeing Judith Light! I think she looks great, and wonder if maybe she had a lower facelift. If not, nice genes! I appreciate your being cool with plastic surgery, EJ. People get so high and mighty about it.
It look like a old twilight zone episode were the girl didn't like her looks she had surgery so she could look like her alien friends but this episode was ok Doll house was the best so far
My issue, I just felt like I knew where it was going during the entire elisode. The hunt was at least a twist, as you said. And yes, they tried to fit in the whole step-daughter, bio mom, now all the sudden she's in the cult and college beautiful thing - again... pacing! Slow-going during the episode until the last five minutes when they tried to fit in a whole new storyline. Why is the pacing so often the problem? Exasperating! 😖
I actually really liked this episode. I thought it was fun. When she said they were going to take off her bandages in front of everyone I thought girl your hair has been in bandages for a week and hasn’t been washed !!
Thank God for Judith Light. My love for her is the only thing that made this ep watchable...that and the weird pig face plot twist 😆. Also I'm embarrassed to say I didn't pick up on the Death Becomes Her callback. I watch the movie every few months 😅. Great review!!
Great review! I feel the same way, the episode was a bit boring and seemed to take forever to get to the climax. I’ve noticed they do that quite a bit 🥴
Kinda reminded me the That Twilight Zone episode Eye Of The Beholder buy not really. Lol. I want to be SCARED!! None of these episodes scare me. Everything is just MEH
Meh… just like “Bloody Mary” this ep started off strong and spooky starring Judith Light (brilliant in both “ACS: Versace” and “Who’s The Boss” decades ago) and New York City socialite Cornelia Guest… but once the bandages came off, the pig snout plot twist was ridiculous AF. As expected AHS tells a story within a story and the fact that many famous faces eventually ruin their naturally good looks with plastic surgery and typically end up botched with crazy facial expressions and barely able to blink. The secret society spin is real tho. 7 out of 10
@@EJMoreno this ep gave the same as “Bloody Mary” it started off strong and spooky, yet the last 15 minutes or so the storyline suddenly started getting corny and neither had a jaw drop ending that “Dollhouse” delivered. Only two eps left… can’t w82c the next!!
I LOVE Death Becomes Her 💜 and the twilight episode Also i was all here for judith light in an episode. I agree though so much promise for this ep that fell flat
I figured from the minute she had those bandages she was going to have a pig face because of the Twilight Zone episode, so I wasn’t shocked at the reveal. Maybe if I hadn’t seen the twilight zone I would have been shocked buy the whole thing was super anticlimactic for me. Though now I’m seeing the death becomes her references and wish they had maybe played with that a bit more.
Gurl I thought I was the only one that nip/tuck vibe I definitely started watching nip /tuck because of this episode plus she was already beautiful but the peer pressure and shame got too much to her .
Judith Light's character is the archetypical Jessica Lange's character in anything Ryan Murphy's: a superficial, vane (sometimes even soulless) beautiful older woman who cannot accept the fact her sex appeal has diminished, and decides to take extreme measures in order to, either "solve" her problem or deal with her bitterness.
Def a good one, I would have liked to know more about the daughter's background, I just notice the mom Judith played in the old tv show who's the boss.
I honestly wasn't mad at this episode. Yeah I'll agree the college ending felt thrown in and could've just been left out but otherwise I liked the stoey overall 🤷♂️
They killed the entire personality of the daughter for the shock value in the end, which, let’s face it, less of a shock value and more of the expected outcome in AHS. And about Virginia… I just felt sad the entire episode, man, cause I knew what was coming and hate it when old people get hurt in the shows like that. Reveal of the cult was too much on the nose and too short-lived. All and all, disliked it very much
Maybe this storyline wasn't meant to scare us. Nowadays in society we are caught up in our looks, beauty, fitness. The stepmom did all that, married a rich man, only to be lonely, and in debt. It's crazy be cause parts of my community people fanastize of how they want there baby to look. The baby need this skin color or hair texture. Overall we have allowed our looks to dictate the life we want only to be lonely, unhappy. Some people get into debt over plastic surgery just to be apart of the beautiful world instead of loving there flaws. And recently we have seen people go to different countries without validating there creditionals only to die later from surgery.
I also thought the whole "epilogue" with the stepdaughter now as a valuable (?) member of her cult, and the typical Ryan Murphy gay eye candy (for those who find that type appealing, I guess a majority) was uncalled. I think the stepdaughter's fate was pretty clear at the Judith Light pigification ritual scene.
I think they did her dirty and I’m wondering if the step mom did something to the biological mom ? Did she steal the dad years ago or something and that’s why they had the cult scheme to sacrifice her in the end ? I guess she finally go what she deserved in the end if that’s the case .
@@EJMoreno Add that in and take out the middle portion that didn’t work or just into the final moments to explain why they chose her in the end . All they had to do is make it seem cohesive and it would’ve added to this episode .
Overall, I hated it. Acting was good, but the story just wasn’t. One thing I’ve noticed about AHS in general is the “hidden in plain sight” stuff. Like that was totally bohemian grove, and if you’re into conspiracy stuff (I am for the knowledge of what ifs 🤷🏻♀️), you’ll know what I’m talking about. Do I believe everything, absolutely not, however, this show either plays on conspiracy theory stuff on purpose, or it’s real. What if? 🤔
Honestly I’m conflicted about this episode…. I liked everything but the last like 10 minutes. It has my favorite opening of the entire series but the main character was just kinda to much of a asshole for me to feel bad for her. And I’ve never been much a fan of cult horror after stuff like Hereditary. I liked the pig body reveal but just eh
Yeah...it was veeery boring. Judith Light was great. I think Patti Lupone would've been great too. I love your desdain for Bella Thorne's acting, bc yeah, it was crunchy af
It was also a huge homage to the Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder" down to the darkness, bandages and the pig face.
Even the same season and episode number!
I got Death Becomes her from this.
My suggestion NEVER take candy or anything else including advice from your enemy/rival/frenemies it will always be in their advantage and Not yours.
👏👏👏👏👏 you're so right!
And don’t have elective surgery! You could end up way worse off than before. 😂 It was so sad seeing how desperate Virginia was for youth and beauty-so accurate with how society is today.
Now that you mention it, I thought it was odd the college friend new she was waiting to meet her boyfriend. But why would she care or feel a need to compete when she already won? That whole thing makes no sense.
It's called common sense. Something, most people in horror fiction (and reality) lacks.
I thought this episodes production, directing and acting were some of the best this season and IMO the show overall. But Sadly it still fell victim to same issues that the entire AHS universe suffers from recently, writing and pacing. I agree that if they had've edited and cut down some scenes and added a little more of the cult aspect, I think this could've been a banger of an episode. Also 100% no lie, as soon as the Doctor came on screen I immediately thought of Death Becomes Her and Isabella Rossellini, such an underrated movie. Thanks for your review.
So glad Death Becomes Her hits home for so many people. And agreed, more cult quicker could've helped this a bit
@@EJMoreno yesss death becomes her as well wow yea I’m a nerd
Yes totally was giving Isabella Rossellini vibes in death becomes her!!!
But they told her that beauty is inside but insist with all that act besides she is bitch to her step daugther who tried to warn her about them.
The runtimes are SUPER short for these stories and each episode has the same formula of a big ending reveal. It would have been interesting if her bandages came off halfway through accidentally. I’m curious if this group exists in the regular AHS world. Fiona probably was a member at one point 😂
Totally agree! We needed the reveal and time with the cult more
Everything of AHStories takes place within the one and only American Horror Story universe.
I’m not sure if I believe that anymore because although some episodes refer back to the main show (rubber woman episodes, dollhouse, etc) you have episodes where catastrophic events take place like in “Drive In” where it seems like the world is going to end.
Unravels her bandages While she was on her pain meds then gasps and quickly wraps them back up in a half-assed manner, thinking "It's just a hallucination from the medications."
I know they tried to make her unlikeable in the little time they had but I was not ready😅 she literally paid to be sacrificed. It’s a cult 😂
Lmao they didn't have the time to redeem her, so I was just like "meh" the whole time
You have become part of a ritual for me. I watch American Horror Stories and then watch your reaction. You are doing a great job!
That means so much! I really love being included in the AHS world. Wish I could do an aftershow for them
Samsies! 💜
I actually LOVED this episode. i was hooked! Def want more of this universe explored in another season
I am torn. It had an uneven flow, but I think overall I liked the idea. I wanted just more cult stuff, less stuff at home/set up
This universe? There is only one universe: the American Horror Story universe. Everything you see in AHS AND in AHStories takes place within that one universe, so basically the woman turned into a pig could visit the Murder House and Hotel Cortez in LA, the coven in New Orleans, the colony of Roanoke, etc.
@@ahsuniverseslays I'd like Fiona Goodman has found this doctor, maybe she would have killed them all
Love you EJ , your reviews on this show , the original AHS and Chucky are the best! You’re always consistent and the first to give your review!
That means the world! So glad you joined me for Chucky, which I can't wait to dive into Season 2 in a few months
Agreed.
The doctor definitely reminded me of Isabella Rossellini in Death Becomes Her. The episode started off so well. I love Judith Light. But the ending was terrible. It would have been interesting if Judith's character's bandages were really hiding a cocoon like skin, similar to a butterfly. At the reveal party she could had hunted Faye down for her final transformation, sacrificing her to become young again.
I like this
Yeah. I was thinking she would become some type of monster, but not for sacrifice.
Honestly you win the award for best idea! This could've saved the episode
@@EJMoreno Thanks ❤️ Love your episode reviews.
The endings are always what pisses me off. It’s like, we can imagine and write better than the actual writers. All shows for that matter. I feel like some shows should listen to their fans, and pull some people in for their ideas. Idk. I’m always disappointed since AHS season 4. I want more ties to the main show, like Dollhouse. They can use this show to expand more on the main show, and tie up loose ends.
The mom was selfish and only cared about herself. The daughter kept calling her mom but she always had to remind her she was her stepdaughter. I don’t think she cared about the daughter or thought of her as her family. Faye genuinely loved and cared for her that’s why she followed her to make sure she was safe. I think it was about them bringing out her true self. She was ugly on the inside so the dr brought the ugly outside. I think she deserved that part but I don’t think she deserved to be hunted down 😂. I really liked the episode. The ending was okay I just like the hunted part as the ending better. I hope they tie this episode to another episode so stuff can be explained a little more.
I think she was also supposed to be representing how a person could be ugly on the inside. She firstly goes into the office accusing the Dr of trying to scam her into being a client then gets into how she thinks and feels she is ugly. Then she gets home after the surgery and for the first time reminds her daughter she's just the step daughter. Then even tho the step daughter is trying so hard she still shoves her off for a "better" opportunity. Then lastly when the daughter shows up, worried, she then again repats to the Dr that she isn't her daughter just her step daughter kind of disowning her. I also think when she says she doesn't have any friends and she even ran off her maid I think thats why the dr agreed because she proved how selfish and ugly she was inside. Everything she did in the episode was for herself. Even putting herself into more debt.
And I also agree it would be nice if they slowed down a bit and gave us more thrills and less set ups...because i pretty much understood what was happening after that first visit lol all the at home stuff could have been completely cut out.
Oh really great breakdown!
@@EJMoreno thank you 😊 really love your channel and opinions!
Oh so she's ugly cuz she's selfish but people who literally hunt her down r gorgeously nice and thus beautiful,?? Dafuq
the plastic surgeon lady looks very much like Lisle Von Rhuman ; the Beautiful lady in ‘Death Becomes Her’ That gives the main characters a special potion to stay young beautiful.
This had to have been on purpose!
Death Becomes Her is not only an iconic film, but first of many that deals with themes of beauty and how far people are willing to go for beauty.
This is seriously just like that twilight zone episode flipped. I was underwhelmed. Didn’t feel original at all. But as always, I live for your reviews! Love you! ❤️❤️
Thanks for joining again 💙💙💙
This episode left me with so many questions. None of it made sense. But like you said, if it wasn't for Judith Light being the star, I wouldn't have found it enjoyable.
Sidenote, I can't wait for you to do Nip/Tuck!
If you guys havent seen the original twilight zone this episode is heavily influenced by an episode called "eye of the beholder" they even used the same pig face they just twisted the story. Got some AHS Cult vibes in here too. I think this is the 2nd best episode this season next to dollhouse.
Totally a must watch!
I wonder what Fiona Goodman would have done if she found this facelift, Would she have killed the whole cult or become the leader?
I just finished the episode and I just had no words. It was all over the place
A little all over. It had a great central idea and lost it with too much else
I don't get it... How was it all over the place? It was litterally ONE storyline throughout the episode
For me it was okay but some things were just so random, like that ending... I haven't been liking Manny Coto's writing lately but I honestly enjoyed the story. The acting was probably the best thing of this episode! In my opinion, Rebecca Dayan was a great addition to ahs in general and Judith was amazing as always. Looking foward to the final two episodes and to your reviews of them! :)
So glad you've joined for these episodes! The last two will be noteworthy, I love a good finale
this episode just made me sad 😭
Totally agree! Seeing the fight for beauty and the pain she dealt with, really sad
Same here! And it seemed like they borrowed from the pig people Twilight Zone episode. The ending was weak.
@@EJMoreno it really was. and the way that her step daughter joined them at the end was very side too, it didn't matter if her biological mother was apart of the cult :( besides from that i was not a fan of this episode at all, just because of the situation of how she wanted to be happy with her appearance and the plastic surgeon gave her a pig face.
Agreed, Judith Light transformed this character as written and gave her a voice. Watching the cruelty inflicted on her disturbed me. She might have been silly and difficult, but her stepdaughter cared enough about her to sneak into her suv to follow her bc she was worried, which told me that she was worth loving. Watching the cruelty inflicted on a sad person who just wanted to feel pretty again was just ugly.
8:41 sent me 😂 cause sameee lol great review EJ!
😂😂😂
Ioved the acting Judith and the Isabella reference death becomes her. I knew some kind of weird cult stuff was going to happen. But I thought they where going to sacrifice the step daughter and she was going to enter the cult. Still better than the first season though. I just didn't want another bummer ending. Thank you for the reviews as usual you are on point!
I thought she was going to sacrifice the step daughter too.
This reminded me alot about the eye of the beholder episode from the twilight zone. Fairly good episode but too short, i want to know more about the beauty cult and Faye's bio parents.
Exactly
Tooo short! Give these at least 55 mins, come on! Make a proper short film
I just commented the same thing! So happy another person agrees!
It reminded me a bit of Twilight Zone's "Eye of the Beholder" (1960).
What IS beauty, who dictates it, & how much are we willing to sacrifice for it?
I do like that for sure
That shade on Bella 😂😂😂 oh EJ you crack me up
I can't. That episode scared me
Is anyone else watching this because the episode is messed up on Hulu and you can’t see past where the doctor said I want to do your reveal publicly tonight? I haven’t seen anything past that because it just goes into commercial and then starts over
I think they should make the episodes an hour + like they do with AHS episodes so the episodes are flushed out and we are satisfied with the entire storylines of the episodes.
This is definitely a nice spin on the twilight zone episode called “Eye of the Beholder “
This episode also seems to be a big homage to the Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder". If you haven't seen it, you can see why it's a reference if you look up photos from the episode.
When she took her bandages off, her face reminded me of the characters on The Twilight Zone's episode Eye of the Beholder.
Love you EJ!
This episode gave me Death Becomes Her vibes but obviously much darker. The surgeon even reminded me of the bombshell surgeon in DBH, LOVED IT!!!!
Aww thanks for watching! I would love a darker take on that movie
Nip/Tuck was THE ish. It’s one of my favorites.
💙💙💙 so so good
This episode revealed the reasons to avoid a surgery like that. 🤣
Welcome back!
Yes almsot back to normal here
How do you know you weren't chanted over you during surgery? Just wait till you're knocked out, then chant time! 😈👹😱😂🤣
Yikessss, never doing that again lol
@@EJMoreno Chanting over the BBL! 😂 😂 🍑
Did you ever see the series called From on Epix? You should check it out!
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I think the butterfly tattoo aspect of this, is a homage to Hostel. All members have an Elite hunting tattoo in hostel that tells each other who they are.
I did fall asleep on some of it, I thought it was because I was tired from working overnight lol. The story was great, just didn't do a complete storytelling job for me. I did like the Death Becomes Her and Twilight Zone references. The black and white version of course! This could have been made a little better that's for sure.
A bit better for sure, but it offered enough
Sorry you are sick friend..I have been sick for a month with pneumonia...I miss oxygen..I hope you feel better soon love...this one was weird and intriguing at the same time...but could be the meds as well :) thank you for reviewing even though you felt awful ...that is dedication..side note..you still looked fabulous..I also got the death becomes her vibe..did anyone else notice that picture in the dr office of the pig getting hunted and stabbed with spears? The black and white photo in her office? A little foreshadowing...
Sending you good vibes as well
Ohhhhh, I'll be interested in your Nip/Tuck reviews. I watched every season when they first aired.
I think the ending in a way was trying to say that the main character was "ugly" on the outside but also on the inside. Her daughter kept trying to help her because she cared about her, but her step mother kept throwing her under the bus over and over in lieu of her own selfish desire. In the end the only character that had that inner beauty became beauty on the outside. Kind of brings the message of the surgeon full circle. Even though in my opinion they weren't that successful with quite pulling it off.
Not sure that theory works when the people we know in the cult (the old guy and his gf) aren’t good people.
@@dannyt7269 It's not really a theory It's just what I think they were going for with the message. The members in the cult weren't "good" people necessarily but they thought highly of themselves while Virginia thought she was hideous. They had to love themselves in order to be beautiful. Even though they sacrificed someone, they may have been positive people otherwise, as the doctor kept pushing for a positive mindset
@@TECfan1 I follow what you mean now.
I was definitely getting Isabella Rossellini vibes from the doctor but I also was thinking of the twilight zone episode where the girl is undergoing plastic surgery because she’s hideous and everyone around her is beautiful and then the twist is that according to our society she is actually the beautiful one and everyone else is “ugly” because they have pig noses but obviously it is not so in their society. I was legitimately thinking about this episode as I was watching because of the plastic surgery and bandages and stuff and I wasn’t even expecting at the end for them to have turned her into a pig. I was like omg how did I not think of that🙄😂
Lmao the pig reveal was like soooo obvious but I was still surprised. They got me gal lol
Love the t-shirt.. My all time fav rap group ever!!! Awesome review!
❤️ Judith Light. Kinda reminded me of the Twilight Zone surgery pig nose episode. I was not expecting that. I was expecting Judith Light’s search for youth to mimic Death Becomes Her but with a cult-like twist in the end in order to maintain her beauty. People do just about anything in true life in search of the Fountain of Youth. I mean the urine part of the episode is true. Gross, but true. Great job, as always! You always make me laugh and smile with your reviews. Oh, and Bella…🤣 Can’t wait to see the final episode with Alicia Silverstone.
This one reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode “The Eye of The Beholder”, but the surgeries were reversed. I hope the people who have seen that episode know what I mean.
Right, if I heard that chanting around me I would’ve been out if there too.💯
😂😂😂😂
You always have the best shirts!
I almost rewore a shirt this week and freaked out lol
I like how you integrate the clips into the videos.👍🏾 Is that a butterfly tattoo on your wrist by chance?🤔🦋🤣
FInally! A great episode after nearly two whole seasons! This is exactly what this show should be. Honestly, they have got to stop handing the show over to the youth...they absolutely butcher it. None of the young talent have been strong enough to carry the absurd themes of this show. None of them. I struggle to even call most of them 'talent'. This episode had me in suspense and I felt sick at the horrors at the end. Truly so great. I shudder to look through the comments as I do worry that these comments will somehow affect the outcome of what we have for future seasons. Perhaps the same people who dismissed the superb Cult season of AHS that resulted in the two worst seasons we've had. Perhaps even the people who champion that awful, *awful* doll episode of this season as some kind of saviour?
Whatever.
This episode was excellent!
Honestly you are onto something with the older cast leading. Or at least AHS regulars. Dennis, Gabby, Cody, and now Judith have done the best so far
@@EJMoreno Oh yeah Gabourey was amazing in her episode...just the material failed her. I thought Cody was average to bad in his episode and I also hated the episode. I also thought he was horrendously bad last season. His turn as Michael is still his absolute best.
Dollhouse was literally *amazing* idk what you on
I forgot I was watching AHS for the first 20 minutes of this episode. I’m saying that in a good way not in a bad way. This episode was OK it wasn’t bad but it wasn’t anything exciting or great. The pig face unwrapping reminded me of an episode of the twilight zone they did something kind of like that.
Yesss I know Twilight Zone had that episode. Honestly a good inspiration is that classic show
@@EJMoreno Me and my bff are fanatics for classic horror. My Dad would watch the old Alfred Hitchcock Presents and Twilight Zone and I’d go sit next to him and enjoy. I’m the youngest of six so by the time I came around my parents didn’t care what I watched they were to worn out by my siblings. 😂
I liked this episode and agree with you that the story dragged in the middle. Good to see Judith Light and Cornelia Guest.
Idk why but for me it’s absolutely the most disturbing episode and that scares me so much
The surgery stuff is pretty creepy and I often say gaslighting is the scariest thing in horror.
It’s not a perfect episode but I did like it more on a revisit than I expy
Death Becomes Her is one my absolute favorite movies! I saw the parallels and I got excited! They just couldn’t stick the landing (as usual ) but I think it’s better than the last few episodes (sn: I was so disappointed in Bloody Mary, i just knew it would be the highlight of the season). I think they might revisit Coven or another AHS season by the end of this season.
I would love them to revisit another season ASAP!
I don't have hulu subscription to watch but I love your review videos 🙂
OMG that is wild. Wish I could help but I'll make sure to give ya all the details
@@EJMoreno thanks! You give the best breakdown!!
I am confused why did they do that to her also why did the daughter recover so easily
Judith Light is so awesome that I enjoyed the episode. I'd love to see her become AHS series regular.
Climax scene of this episode was the darkest (and best) 🧟♀️
AHS is just not giving, knowing what i’ve seen and watched from previous seasons and the OG of which each season had a strong build
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the actress who played the daughter in this ep plays a lead character in the series 'Severance'! an absolutely brilliant series which is underrated bc it was made by AppleTv+. and SHE WAS AMAZING IN IT!!! I was hyped to see her here lol.
Severance is like a season-long-episode of Black Mirror (but even better!), so if you like that type of show you should absolutely check it out! it has 97% ratings on rotten tomatoes rn. the finale ep got me on the edge of my seat the whole time. 11/10 would reccommend 🔥🔥
I ❤️ your shirt!! And yes, I agree with your review. It was nice but nothing special. Judith Light is iconic and I kind of anticipated some craziness with the reveal of her face but, yeah it was just ok for me.
The reveal was wild but the actual effect was just okay. Honestly the bandage look was somehow creepier!
And thanks for the shirt compliment! ❤️
Yea, I like the idea but the execution was a little messy. So I agree with that. And omg Perle so looked like Isabella. I screamed. Love DBH.
I feel like DBH is such a good reference for AHS so I appreciate what they did. But come on, clean up that script
@@EJMoreno Exactly. Like choose who your main person was. If they were gonna do this reveal for Faye. They should of focused on her and how she’s being treated by her stepmom or that she felt like an ugly duckling.
I didn't care for this episode 😦 by the way I love your Shirt ❤️
Thanks for the shirt love. I love me some classic Bone Thugs
I’m here for your Nip/Tuck review!! After I’m sure another disappointing season of AHS we need a old RM show to digest. And Nip tuck is so bad it’s good!
Ej I’d like to know what you think happened to the Carver and his sister at the end of the third season. Also I didn’t like the fact they kinda just forgot about the story of Eden poisoning Julia. Cant wait to watch.
The episode was mehhhh but when you said you would be doing nip/tuck I literally squealed!!! NOONE on TH-cam did that show I’ve been searching for years!!! I more excited about that than AHS 11 lol
I noticed Nip/Tuck doesn't have a lot of love. I think I wanna break it down one season at a time, and you know I can't wait for the Carver storyline
Cant wait either! And don’t forget the Sarah Paulson episode lol.
I really enjoyed seeing Judith Light! I think she looks great, and wonder if maybe she had a lower facelift. If not, nice genes! I appreciate your being cool with plastic surgery, EJ. People get so high and mighty about it.
Yeah Judith looks amazing! I feel like they even tried to deglam her for this at times! And yes I am pro doing what you want
She definitely has had one, as soon as the episode started I pointed it out to my fiance.
It look like a old twilight zone episode were the girl didn't like her looks she had surgery so she could look like her alien friends but this episode was ok Doll house was the best so far
looks like death becomes her + reverse twilight dimension
You nailed it
My issue, I just felt like I knew where it was going during the entire elisode. The hunt was at least a twist, as you said. And yes, they tried to fit in the whole step-daughter, bio mom, now all the sudden she's in the cult and college beautiful thing - again... pacing! Slow-going during the episode until the last five minutes when they tried to fit in a whole new storyline.
Why is the pacing so often the problem? Exasperating! 😖
The pacing really does throw some things off. For a limited runtime...use every damn minute you have lol
@@EJMoreno And don't try to fit too much in. Do one storyline really well. Instead of doing a deserving to the second story.
I actually really liked this episode. I thought it was fun. When she said they were going to take off her bandages in front of everyone I thought girl your hair has been in bandages for a week and hasn’t been washed !!
Thank God for Judith Light. My love for her is the only thing that made this ep watchable...that and the weird pig face plot twist 😆.
Also I'm embarrassed to say I didn't pick up on the Death Becomes Her callback. I watch the movie every few months 😅.
Great review!!
When that woman came out with that harsh bob, I got instant Death Becomes Her vibes!
@@EJMoreno she even looks like her!
Great review! I feel the same way, the episode was a bit boring and seemed to take forever to get to the climax. I’ve noticed they do that quite a bit 🥴
Yuuppp! And once the climax happens, it's basically over
Kinda reminded me the That Twilight Zone episode Eye Of The Beholder buy not really. Lol. I want to be SCARED!! None of these episodes scare me. Everything is just MEH
Yeahhhh I am missing the horrorrrrr. I enjoy some of the ideas but Milkmaids at least made me feel something
@@EJMoreno I totally agree
Meh… just like “Bloody Mary” this ep started off strong and spooky starring Judith Light (brilliant in both “ACS: Versace” and “Who’s The Boss” decades ago) and New York City socialite Cornelia Guest… but once the bandages came off, the pig snout plot twist was ridiculous AF. As expected AHS tells a story within a story and the fact that many famous faces eventually ruin their naturally good looks with plastic surgery and typically end up botched with crazy facial expressions and barely able to blink. The secret society spin is real tho. 7 out of 10
7 out of 10 is totally fair!
@@EJMoreno this ep gave the same as “Bloody Mary” it started off strong and spooky, yet the last 15 minutes or so the storyline suddenly started getting corny and neither had a jaw drop ending that “Dollhouse” delivered. Only two eps left… can’t w82c the next!!
My interest came and went tbh. I just wanted to know what it was heading to.
Totally feel that. That middle section really dragged this down
So I've not got to watch this one yet so far Dollhouse was my favorite
anyway I can watch it besides on Hulu?
Judith was the best part of the episode.
As per usual! She usually understands an assignment
Had a tales from the crypt vibe kinda
But ehhhh
Love your shirt by the way
Get well soon EJ
Thanks! Almost there, beating this cold slowly but surely
I LOVE Death Becomes Her 💜 and the twilight episode Also i was all here for judith light in an episode. I agree though so much promise for this ep that fell flat
I figured from the minute she had those bandages she was going to have a pig face because of the Twilight Zone episode, so I wasn’t shocked at the reveal. Maybe if I hadn’t seen the twilight zone I would have been shocked buy the whole thing was super anticlimactic for me. Though now I’m seeing the death becomes her references and wish they had maybe played with that a bit more.
Gurl I thought I was the only one that nip/tuck vibe
I definitely started watching nip /tuck because of this episode plus she was already beautiful but the peer pressure and shame got too much to her .
Judith Light's character is the archetypical Jessica Lange's character in anything Ryan Murphy's: a superficial, vane (sometimes even soulless) beautiful older woman who cannot accept the fact her sex appeal has diminished, and decides to take extreme measures in order to, either "solve" her problem or deal with her bitterness.
Haven’t seen it yet but read about it. Like the Irishness in there, is this one worth it?
Id say it's fun for the idea, not the best execution
It's a reimagined version of the 1932 film the most dangerous game.
Yeah The Most Dangerous Game is probably the most referenced movie in modern film. So many have tried their take
Def a good one, I would have liked to know more about the daughter's background, I just notice the mom Judith played in the old tv show who's the boss.
Oh yeah more woth the daughter could've helped.
I honestly wasn't mad at this episode. Yeah I'll agree the college ending felt thrown in and could've just been left out but otherwise I liked the stoey overall 🤷♂️
The mother was desperate and too much gullible I’m like the hell with her
They killed the entire personality of the daughter for the shock value in the end, which, let’s face it, less of a shock value and more of the expected outcome in AHS. And about Virginia… I just felt sad the entire episode, man, cause I knew what was coming and hate it when old people get hurt in the shows like that. Reveal of the cult was too much on the nose and too short-lived. All and all, disliked it very much
Maybe this storyline wasn't meant to scare us. Nowadays in society we are caught up in our looks, beauty, fitness. The stepmom did all that, married a rich man, only to be lonely, and in debt. It's crazy be cause parts of my community people fanastize of how they want there baby to look. The baby need this skin color or hair texture. Overall we have allowed our looks to dictate the life we want only to be lonely, unhappy. Some people get into debt over plastic surgery just to be apart of the beautiful world instead of loving there flaws. And recently we have seen people go to different countries without validating there creditionals only to die later from surgery.
I love Judith light....it was corny but I liked it....hey listen to your step daughter is the message 😆😆👍🏾🤦🏾♀️
Yes corny but it was nice to see Judith eat this up and the end was a good kind of WTF
@@EJMoreno true brotha 😉🤓
was eh-ok for me, made me more ready for season 11
Yeah! Season 11 will certainly be an adventure 😂
I also thought the whole "epilogue" with the stepdaughter now as a valuable (?) member of her cult, and the typical Ryan Murphy gay eye candy (for those who find that type appealing, I guess a majority) was uncalled. I think the stepdaughter's fate was pretty clear at the Judith Light pigification ritual scene.
I think they did her dirty and I’m wondering if the step mom did something to the biological mom ? Did she steal the dad years ago or something and that’s why they had the cult scheme to sacrifice her in the end ? I guess she finally go what she deserved in the end if that’s the case .
Stealing a man means you deserve to die ? 🤣🤣🤣 weird thinking
Oh a bit more added to the biological mom stuff could've helped. Honestly I would've liked this more if it had like 15 more mins to it
@@EJMoreno Add that in and take out the middle portion that didn’t work or just into the final moments to explain why they chose her in the end . All they had to do is make it seem cohesive and it would’ve added to this episode .
Man u tripping this show was cool although when she unmask her at the end I was like come on they got that from twilight zone
Total twilight zone vibes
Have u review vampire diaries and the originals yet ?
I have not! I wish I could get into it but shows like that take a lot of time to binge
Yay Nip/Tuck!!!!!!
Yes yes! It's coming. Staying in the Ryan Murphy universe this year
@@EJMoreno I love it! 🦵
Overall, I hated it. Acting was good, but the story just wasn’t. One thing I’ve noticed about AHS in general is the “hidden in plain sight” stuff. Like that was totally bohemian grove, and if you’re into conspiracy stuff (I am for the knowledge of what ifs 🤷🏻♀️), you’ll know what I’m talking about. Do I believe everything, absolutely not, however, this show either plays on conspiracy theory stuff on purpose, or it’s real. What if? 🤔
Honestly I’m conflicted about this episode…. I liked everything but the last like 10 minutes. It has my favorite opening of the entire series but the main character was just kinda to much of a asshole for me to feel bad for her. And I’ve never been much a fan of cult horror after stuff like Hereditary. I liked the pig body reveal but just eh
The pig reveal was a fun moment. The cult stuff either needed to be more, or just rework it
@@EJMoreno just like milkmaid what happened this episode isn’t what I expected. But I don’t think that’s a good thing this time around
The ending is way too sad, I felt bad for the sacrificed
Yeah...it was veeery boring. Judith Light was great. I think Patti Lupone would've been great too. I love your desdain for Bella Thorne's acting, bc yeah, it was crunchy af
Omgggg Patti Lupone is a great pick and has the AHS legacy! Good call
It was kinda slow took me a while to get into it