Appointable, But Not Matched | I Didn't Get into Training (Residency)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2024
- Keeping it real - waiting and seeing, but it's looking like this year is not my year.
Timestamps:
00:00 I Didn't Make It
01:00 What actually happened
04:07 What happens next
09:15 Being happy for others
13:07 The UK medical job market
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Good luck doctor, what makes this worse is that the UK has a shortfall of neurosurgeons, the infrastructure is simply lacking.
Kudos to you for being Open and honest about the application process. People are quick to speak about their successes, but not about the challenges along the way. You are an inspiration ! I’m sure you will get the training number in future application cycles!
Keeping you in my Du’ah 🤲🏽 InshaAllah you get it next round!
This is 1000x more helpful than a 'yay I matched video' yet also 1000x less likely to be made, so thank you for that.
Also you mentioned Radiology, perhaps a video on why you want to do those two specialties?.
Good luck Ollie. Really hope you get a post
Dear Ollie,
I'm sorry that you weren't successful this time, but do keep trying. Someone with your passion, communication skills and intelligence *will* make a success of their life even if things don't go exactly the way you want. I was in the same boat as you in the MTAS debacle of 2007 (joining the so-called "Lost Tribe"), and didn't get into my first choice of medical career. I also bashed my head against the door for a couple of further years before I understood that it would never open and I went into another specialty. I have to say I'm now happier than I probably would have been in my "first choice" specialty, so things change - medicine changes and people change. I would never have considered my current specialty in 2006, but it's changed beyond recognition since then and is far more satisfying and dynamic.
Regardless of what you choose to do, keep your head up, keep trying and I wish you the best.
Good luck Ollie..
Wishing you all the best in your career...
Rooting for you to get the job at the next round
Don’t put pressure on yourself - the nhs hardly has any jobs for you guys but we need the doctors! I’m an odp and it’s so hard to see you guys work your socks off and no rewards x
Wishing you all the very best in your career. Your attitude. dedication and clarity of communication is amazing. Thank you.
Best of luck Ollie. Fingers crossed for you 🤞
all the best brother keep your head up im sure it will work out!
Good luck Ollie!!
Massive respect to you Ollie, next year 💪
Thank you so much for explaining this all! I am hoping to apply to graduate medicine and have a few friends who just finished foundation training. It’s so eye opening to hear more about your views on the bureaucracy side of things as well. Wishing you all the best and will be supporting you from the sidelines!
Thank you for this. Your mindset is very illuminating. I have no doubt about your dedication and competence. The specialties are so competitive, reaching the level that you have is a monumental achievement in itself. Well done Ollie, you have a very logical and emotionally intelligent thought process and I admire your integrity and resilience. All the best for your future goals.
Would love to hear more about the other options you were referring to if you are not able to train in your particular area interest. Thanks for this video!
Good luck and I will be crossing my fingers for the next rounds.
A well worded review of your situation. What used to be the st3 bottle neck for those who could get core trainee jobs but not into spec training, is now becoming a core trainee bottle neck. Even cmt(imt) is becoming very competitive. So as the competition ratios for spec jobs increases, the competition is pushed down the line for all jobs before spec training, as you state.
The quality of candidates applying for spec training gets better each year as well, so this compounds it.
Keep your chin up, you know what you are about. There are many excellent trainees who don’t get in first time, has nothing to do with their candidacy, as much as the way the wind blows on the day. If the cascading/2nd round did not work out, look into roles relating to digital transformation. As I’m sure you are aware this is the next big thing on the agenda and a role in this field would be very unique at a further round
So sorry you didn't get the post you wanted. I'm sure it will work out for you. You have been an amazing role model for me. I'm a forty-something wannabe grad medic. I didn't get in this year but I'm reapplying in October. Sometimes the trajectory has a few twists and turns but I think everything works as it should in the end.
stay away from medicine it will ruin your life my friend. I say this as a grad medic myself.
I am praying for an amazing year ahead for you Ollie!🙌🏾 I have to say I’m always blown away by how you can articulate yourself with so much clarity - do you have any tips about this ?
Oh Ollie, I really feel for you and you are so brave to be honest on youtube about how hard the specialty selection process is. Ive sent you a message on linkedin if you decide you want to apply to radiology again.
Hit the nail on the head with the state of the job market for UK SHOs not in training! It almost seems like the only options for F3/4s are to find work overseas (Aus/NZ) or find jobs outside medicine for August☹️
Good luck, Ollie. 👍
Why on earth are we having such dedicated talent considering leaving. What an abominable waste. This is how we're going to drop further and further down in health outcomes on the world stage. So infuriatingly stupid.
I have no doubts that you will achieve everything you want. I believe in you!
Goodluck👊🏾
Good luck to you Ollie. The NHS has trully gone to the dogs with the way they treat their best and brightest
Keep trying, push forward , good luck
As a 4th year medical student this is incredible demotivating. I’ve even started studying for the USMLE as a plan b option. This problem with training in the UK is horrendous and seems to only be getting worse :(
Applying to med this year and didnt know it would be competitive even after graduating.
Ye learn a language in medical school, can always train abroad and come back.
I feel like it only gets harder tbh. At least in Australia specialty training is way more competitive than actually getting into med school
Good luck 🍀
IM GUTTERED , I FEEL THIS DEEP. im very sorry Ollie. please keep your head up. you deserved that post. im sorry again Ollie. Have you thought of going to do the training in Northern Ireland?
goodluck such a sensible overview on a crazy system
Loved this video! Could you make a video on age and medicine and how this deliberate strategy of keeping drs at SHO level affects age, relationships, finances etc. I'm a grad studying medicine, and Its difficult with finances.
Would you also consider moving abroad? Australia or USA?
Just found your channel... fascinating to hear about this from an American perspective. Our Match system is by no means perfect but does sound quite a bit more flexible and forgiving than yours, even for competitive specialties. Makes me wonder if more British doctors are going to start wanting to come to the US for further training. Thanks for sharing!
I would consider the US as an alternative with your credentials and profile you could have a chance with one of the more competitive specialities overseas. If you’re willing to go through the steps and apply to see what happens nothing to lose other than cash and time
Love and support doc
Please pitch something to the BMJ about training post positions! It's so unfair :/
It's difficult because there aren't really a huge number of neurosurgery training places so you're applying to a very competitive specialty for only a few available posts. That being said, any experience you can gain in the medical profession will not be wasted. Even if you were to take this year to do EM/AM/Gen surg/Gen ICU as a locum and get ready to apply again, the benefits of the exposure to a more broad range of patients will be of assistance in future neurosurgical jobs as you will have a more nuanced understanding of the appropriate management of comorbidities and the potential challenges that may be encountered in the pre-, peri-, and post-operative stages. In highly specialised surgical fields it can be easy to remain "hyper-focused" on the specialty with the result being the unintentional neglect of other parts of the picture so having extra experience in understanding the complicated medical patient is often greatly appreciated by your colleagues. Medical experience is never wasted. Very few people get their envisioned neat linear path through their career. It may take a bit of time to get where you want to be but sometimes the scenic route affords you opportunities that may otherwise not have come your way. Good luck.
Sorry to hear you didn't make it. The reality is that so many great, competent doctors will fail to get into training posts despite great credentials, and despite the fact we need them! Healthcare in the UK is failing doctors and patients alike. Those lucky enough to get into training have to contend with poor conditions, pay and lack of opportunities. This is why so many are leaving after CCT. The training in the UK is recognised and respected around the world but sadly, with the new GMC changes being enforced I feel it will lag behind in years to come. Sorry for the rant.
Not the same but I got a good GMSAT score etc but a poor MMI interview so didn't get in this year either. Sucks but have to go again.
even if you got a training number, I've seen people get kicked out at st8 just before cct, or drop out at st6/st7 because of difficulties with progression.
Respect your transparency, and I'm certain you will match into the career you desire in good time Insha Allah. Best of luck for your future.
Do USMLE and leave?
Could you please do a video on how to work on your portfolio to make it competitive ?
Is matching in opthalmology as hard as neurosurgery?
Ollie,
I know you wanted to be a paediatric neurosurgeon upon qualification would a clinical fellow year on paediatrics be useful for you?
Prayers for all present and future prospects, so much respect and appreciation for your thinking so much of helping others in their vocational development 🙏🏻
i would think tiwce about neurosurgery- not the best route to choose in retrospect for myself. no future in the UK really
Liverpool got one of the best neurosurgery hospitals Ollie
He I'm sure will know this. I'm sure he was speaking hypothetically, picking a city at random.
What about a fellow in critical care or a&e - still exposed to neuro patients without “neuro” if that makes sense
I now have a plan b job lined up thankfully! But if I needed to take another year I'd definitely consider crit care
@@OllieBurtonMed brilliant so glad!
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
why not do GP?
A good question. I don't think I enjoy general medicine enough to get through either the training or last as a good GP. I want ultimately to be a specialist and some sort of interventionalist ie putting my hands on a patient and doing something and hopefully they get better.
I am calling the UK PM and tell Rishi (I call him Rish) that he needs to get this fixed ASAP. He doesn't have anything else to worry about right now, so he will get on it. We got your back, Ollie.
I thought neurosurgeons had to rotate to a new hospital every 6-12 months, so why don’t the top 15 just accept their job offer since they’re going to another hospital in a year or so anyways doctor?
PAs will replace middle grade docs sooner or later.
You shouldn’t be too picky. Being a consultant, even in a specialty that wasn’t your top choice will not compromise your “academic integrity” 🙄
Training to become and then working as a Consultant is an absolutely monumental task.
Almost all specialties are becoming extraordinarily competitive.
It’s one thing to put in the effort for something you want, it’s another thing to put that same effort into a job you’d rather not do. To top it off UK medicine does not pay well.
It’s not surprising that he (and many other SHOs) would rather leave medicine altogether or find greener pastures.
If you didn’t want to get a reduction in staffing and the perspective of everyone else because you wanted more money and screwed over your colleagues. You didn’t need a pay rise. The money you wanted to should have gone to the ambulance service. You guys get paid too much yet the ambulance service barely able to get minimum wage.
Don't take it personally ollie but I told you so. The government used your strikes. To reduce your ability to meet your patient safety requirements.
I feel terrible forou
Hi if I am on medication and it's out of stock the doctor give me a defrant medication and it's making me sick I told him that but he won't give me anything else he just says it's that or nothing what can I do about that as the doctor had loads of people complaining about him what can I do to get my medication changed to a different one can you help me plz I ask over doctors thear but thay say its only that doctor that can give you that medication thear no over doctor at the doctors that can give you that medication but he won't change it the old doctor that's left give me a defrant one till it come back in to stock but this nuw doctor won't do it he give me the one that macks me sick every day wen I have it can you help me to tell me what to do plz