BMW F15 X5 NBT EVO Retro Fit "Cheap Way" Attempt & Fail: Part 1
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- BMW F15 X5 NBT EVO Retro Fit "Cheap Way" Attempt & Fail: Part 1
Mark has been slowly buy the components needed to fit NBT Evo in to his 2013 BMW x5. Mainly for the apple carplay feature but also for the newer faster interface the NBT Evo offers.
We were hoping to get it working in this video, but have ran in to trouble at the coding phase.
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BMW electronics specialist here. few notes:
an NBT Evo has 2 kinds of anti theft / anti tampering mechanisms.
One is Coding Lock, in a nutshell once it is VO coded with a VO that differs too much from what it was originally coded to it will lock itself, give 'no signal' on the screen and from that point on it can be detected in e-sys but no longer will be able to be coded. This protection can be removed by special means.
Second is Component Protection, once the Evo is installed in a car with a different VIN your FSC's (activation codes generated for the cars vin to enable nav, ispeech, carplay, sat radio, etc) it will reject all these codes. That's been this way since the CIC iDrive. Evo's took that a step further, once the fsc's are rejected component protection is triggered and you will not be able to import any fsc's anymore even if they were for the cars vin. Component protection can be removed by uploading a special FSC to the Evo that has te sole purpose to reset the tripped component protection and from there on you can import FSC's again.
During the coding process you need to be very careful and thoughtful to not trip these anti tampering mechanisms.
I guess you botched that and now it is coding locked since you said it cannot be coded anymore.
Best is to ditch the emulator and get an FSC set made to your vin (I can hook you up with that :) ).
Just do it properly man.
Next the ethernet problem.
ethernet is actually called OABR on the Evo.
It needs to run from the BDC module to the evo and from the ATM module to the evo.
You'll actually need both connections since for component protection to be initialised the first time it needs the OABR connection Evo BDC. Don't hook up an enet cable directly to the OABR, if you do your wiring properly you will be able to do all needed coding and what not via the OBD plug.
Get yourself an OABR loom from BMW (P/N 61 11 9 372 330) and an ATM retrofit wiring loom from ebay.
Lay the ATM loom from the trunk to the dash and remove the pins from the pre-installed OABR plug that connects to the evo.
Install the pins in the OABR plug connected to the loom from BMW. Then run the other end of the OABR loom over to the right side footwell where the BDC module lives. Remove the existing ethernet pins from the smallest connector on the BDC (these ethernet wires go to the quadlock and are not needed anymore) and plug the pins from the OABR loom into the connector on the BDC.
That's it for the wiring.
Oh and you'll also need the WLAN antenna for Carplay to work, they are dirt cheap over at BMW (P/N 61 11 9 372 321).
Feel free to send me a message if you want to go the proper route, i can help you with part numbers, schematics, even remote coding ;)
Hi Arno, that is the most helpful info, thank you! What is the best way we could get in touch? Do you have telegram or whattsapp that mark can message you on? If so please let me know at zeroto60tube@gmail.com
@@ZeroTo60Tube send me an email at arnobruynen@icloud.com, i’ll give you my phone number via mail 😉
Hi Arno, mark will email you shortly. I didnt want to get in the middle as the coding and programming goes over my head a little. But will be following along closely.
Hey Arno, I'm experiencing a similar problem with my F48, retrofitting an NBT EVO unit. I think I'm at a point to look for a specialist's opinion and expertise. How can I reach you?
Hey there
I would like to ask u a fee questions regarding the evo retrofit
Can u please provide me your contact info?
Best tegards
Steli
I don't have my F15 X5 50i any more but would still really like all of your videos, very informative thanks guys
Ahh what a nightmare. This kind stuff goes way over my head but it's still fun to watch. Useful information for people that don't want to brick their units by the way 😂
This "bypass" or can filter ist not required. Nbt evo can be coded to your vin without any problems.
Welcome to F/G series! It's attempt 1. E-sys is more finicky. BMW are trying to get people to brick modules. The only way I think to do it is to go through the X5 stock units and check settings like everywhere and then make sure the X4 unit is same. I think the headlight modules record mileage and VIN codes too
I'll tell you its been interesting learning about it all in the last 24 hours thats for sure.
Greetings from the US. Don't even have an n54 but love keeping up with the channel!
Thanks man!!!! It’s all sorts of BmW issues we try and cover and the cheapest way we can fix them. Appreciate the support everyone gives us by watching and following along
My brother did this on his F30 3 series he installed the ID6 with touch screen. The very first time you connect a new unit to the car it will look for the vin and if it’s not the same it will lock itself. This is the security feature. He had it bench coded and all works fine I’ll see if I can get you the details from where.
Super interested in this. All the options from the US are really expensive as you said. I’m happy to do it to my F20 once you guys have it working
This reminds me of when I did a NBT retrofit into my E70. You can certainly connect to them standalone over ethernet.
Keep up the good work. All the best lads. Look forward to more n54 goodies!
Thanks man!!! More N54 stuff coming. Been on a parts haul for mine, so will try and do a week or 2 of content on it soon.
this is perfect.. i have both x5 f15 diesel and e92 335i lol.. love this channel!
Awesome! Thank you!
I have an e93 335i and I am planning/ hoping for an F15 35d. :-) keep the content coming.
Could you do a video on a first time set up of ISTA+ ?
My 2017 F15 head unit model is NBT Evo but it does not have AppleCarPlay
Did you manage to fix the bricked evo system?
Someone remoted in and reprogrammed it for us.
What’s name of the bypass cable for vin ?
You probably coded your VO to the NBT EVO, perhaps even with a different country code? EVO will lock itself and you need a so-called VO FIX or patch. This will allow the EVO to be coded to every VO (as long als SALAPA matches). Also, in this patch, you can patch the unit to your VIN with according FSC's so you won't need an emulator any more:) It also includes Carplay. Check it out at FEMTOEVO
Was there ever a part 2?
There wasn’t! Sorry. We’ll got it working but it took a long time and I didn’t get a chance to film it.
@@ZeroTo60Tube have any tips or coding the nbt evo ? I’m about to install mine and there isn’t much on coding
Hi thank you for this video. I wanna ask you what happened at the end did you upgrade NBT to NBT EVO work for you? If yes do you have a link with everything you used? Thanks!
Unfortunately we never managed to get it to work. Mark used a specialist to do the custom coding and activate apple car play.
Bimmertech in the USA is great for getting this done.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I was about to buy one N BT Evo head unit. Good thing I didn’t I think it’s not worth it. It’s better to move to a model. Thank you.
hello, thank you very much for this video ;) i Have x5 F15 with nbt third generation like you. I would like to do same retrofit to evo id6 with touch screen. My problem is that i have rse modul and rear screens, i would like to know if i must replace rse modul and rear screens to evo also? thank you in advance for your reply if you can help me... Regards
How many 3 letter acronyms can we use in one episode?
andrew lots of wizardry going on there better you guys than me i would be at control alt delete by now lol. scoot over and have a look at pickles salvage in qld lot 627 335i coupe clean title ends 12 tommorow lunch cheeeeep cheers arnie
She's up to 6k now. What idiot was it thats made everyone see so much value in these old N54 powered BMWs.....
@@ZeroTo60Tube hmmmm let me think andrew mine is coming along a treat 2 quarter panels and a roof later my e90 coupe 92 for the purists is now starting to take shape all i need is a right fender if you know of any plastic ones
Once you've set the vin correctly on the NBT EVO you should be able to remove the ali-express dongle.
If you've managed to brick the NBTEVO with a wrong VIN then you'll need a full fsc repair set - that will also get you the car play activation.
You'll find some good suppliers of FSC sets on www.bimmerscene.com
However if your going to use the ATM from the M3 you are going to need to code it to the VIN to match the ATM and use the ali-express vin blocker..
Thanks for the info. Will make sure Mark has been on bimmerscene. Talking to him this morning, he is thinking of not bothering with the ATM module now. He was hoping to use it for Nav and remote access, but with car play he will be satisfied. Need to find out more about the FSC repair set i guess.
fyi: I used femtoevo for my fsc codes and it worked like a charm
Did you guys ever get the NBT evo installed?
Hey will yes, we’ll sort of, it’s still not working for gps location. This is a much bigger task than anticipated.
We are trying to get a gps chip fitted to this nbt.
Where’s part 2?
It never got filmed. Had to get a guy to supply some FSC codes and a few other things to get it working.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Oh okay cool then. Seems like an expensive and tedious.
@@tirolekubu8578 can help remotely with coding/programming, Carplay and nbt activation.
@@bimmercodingaustria how do I contact you?
Can you make a video or give a detailed comment about what was needed?