I have to wonder if they just couldn't get certain features out the door before the display's launch. Having an A13 and 64GB of memory means this display has the horsepower to become at least a decent standalone 'Apple TV' display. But some of the engineering aspects-from the non-user-serviceable power cord and mounting bracket/VESA mount-to the thickness of the display in general-are baffling. If they just took the iMac, swapped the guts for a display controller, and used an external magsafe power supply like the iMac, I think people would've been happier.
@@huggyuk storage *is* memory though, it's just non-volitile, and we have come to often use the word 'memory' for volitile RAM and 'storage' for non-volitile memory like HDDs and SSDs
I expect the reason it has this config is that is the smallest HAND die that meets the spec apple need for the HAND controler within the A13. As to why they are using an A13 apple llikly have 1000s of these that have binning issues meaning they cant use them in phones but are completely ok in a monitor (1 to 2 cpus cores with defects is not going to impact the use case here at all). Apple has used binned chips in the past in the HomePod mini getting binned Apple Watch cpus.
Considering that we are talking about an Apple product, I think it’s safe to assume that it is this way because they wanted it to be this way. These are not mistakes that could be explained by some engineers screwing up and some validations getting skipped. These are all things that would have been decided on the marketing requirements level. My best guess is that someone at Apple is really pushing for internal power supplies because they look nicer. That would explain why the Mac Studio and this display both have internal power supplies. They probably didn’t like how it would look to have three external power supplies if you had a Mac Studio with two matching displays. I suspect that the stand is both a cost saving measure and an upsell strategy. You are more likely to get the more expensive solution if you are worried that you can’t upgrade later. Is this wrong? Idk.. Maybe? In practice, I don’t think this matters as long as Apple doesn’t force you to use their displays with their computers.
Overengineered the heck out of that power supply but fogot to design a power cord that can be removed easily. Apple just likes to do one good thing at a time.
This is the AC power cable from the wall outlet unlike the iMAC Macsafe which is DC from external power supply. DC voltage is lower and it has circuitry to detect proper attached before it let the current run. You can't do that with AC from the wall outlet so you have to make the connector very strong especially when you have less than an inch to plug it in.
As an electronics engineer myself, I think the power supply is INSANE amount of over engineering for a chassis that thick, BUT that said, I LOVE IT. I've seen all sorts of low profile components but I've never seen anyone CUT INTO the board, to make them even lower in profile. I mean, the Capacitors? They're LONG AF! but they knew, if these weren't this long, they would've been fat and a design hazard. The Common mode Chokes are another highlight of the low profile design. But in some places, since the thickness allowed it, they chose to go with Through hole Diodes, which is weird, but I get that makes the work easy. Also, Current ratings might've been an issue. I know this post doesn't belong here, but maybe someone finds it as interesting as I do. :)
As electronics engineer you shouldnt be surprized by cutouts for components in low profile power supply. That kind of design is common as mud in all sorts of low profile power supplies for monitors and TVs. And those are not through hole diodes, that, most likely Y type caps or MOVs. Diode bridge is through hole, yeah. And most important, that power supply was not designed by Apple. It was designed by power supply manufacturer SoluM (see silkscreen logo on PCB). SoluM was spun off from Samsung Electro-Mechanics in 2015. So, all impressive parts in Apple designed by Samsung :)
To me it just looks like this display and the iMac were developed by two completely different teams that didn‘t talk to each other (maybe because of secrecy shenanigans inside Apple). Otherwise I really can‘t explain the two baffling dissimilar approaches for a very similar thing.
The display is handled by their professional team who make the MacBook Pro this display and things like the Mac Pro and studio whilst the iMac is made by the consumer line unless it is a pro mod where the teams interact
I wonder if someone will make an open source bootloader or some sort of jailbreak that will allow an OS to run, would be interesting to see if people can hack the hardware to make proper use of that a12 chip
@@KangJangkrik it's already technically running iOS, it wouldn't take much more than a method of running a custom ipsw etc to get this running, the hard part would be creating a new bootloader
@@TheMilanMovies yes that are for sure the screws for the stand but what about the holes for a vesa mount? are they already in the back just covered by the backplate? or maybe there will be external vesa mounts which are fitting these seven screw holes i mean woul be great for people which would like to upgrade by themself without bringing the display to an apple store.
@LPF Yep. Scrap an all in one display and computer to launch a computer and a separate display that use bits (even the literal same LCD panel) from the all in one computer. I'd applaud the genius if I didn't hate the ethics haha
iMac magsafe, iphone magsafe and macbook magsafe are all dc connectors with lower wattage, after the external power supply. In this case we are talking up to 240V ac connector, it needed to be a different beast (obviously didn’t need to be stuck).
@@FernandoAES 🤔 I heard that it has to be fixed connector so a) there is lower risk for the after shock but most of all 2) easier to get through regulations and testing 😆 I’m still surprised about this solution because, instead of packing line, they have to consider already in assembly line what kind of plugs are used in the area they ship the goods in. When you have a separate power cord they can just add it as the final accessory with localized information and packaging.
@@kperttul At least with solid state displays they don't have to manufacture different versions for northern and southern hemispheres as used to be required for collimations magnets, etc. on cathode ray tube displays to accommodate different polarity of the Earth's magnetic field. :-)
After seeing this I'm convinced that this design was originally going to be the new 27" iMac but then at some point, likely within the last year, they decided to go forward with the Mac Studio as the only pro-summer desktop, so as to not have them compete against each other. They then converted this into the separate Studio Display and hastily converted it to use the A13 instead of a M1 Pro or M1 Max. There is just way too much tight integration and effort here for what is really ancient display panel, this it way over engineered for what it delivers.
This is a very compelling point, and I think I could add to that: Supply chain issues. Apple seems to have avoided most of this, but I think they were unable to secure enough supply (of some component) to make this a M1 iMac. The power supply and internal design is very costly, as pointed out; if they could make this for both the possibly low-volume Studio Display _and_ the higher-volume iMac, then I think they would. But for some reason they couldn't make it, or at least release models of both the 27-inch iMac and the Mac Studio that would make sense on the market. Also: The Mac Studio looks like it was designed for Intel, with its enormous cooling, as a follow up to the trash can Mac Pro. Possibly shelved when they decided to make the current Mac Pro (and standalone display), but then pulled out again because they could smack an M1 Extreme inside. EDIT: And shelved because Intel didn't deliver on efficient CPUs that would fit the thermal envelope. Possibly also shelved because the external GPU saga is _something_. I think there has been some amazing developments within the chip team and with Rosetta 2 that actually made some products push ahead way faster, combine this with the general shortages, making the lineup and release schedule seem a bit odd.
I honestly think you're right that this is the case... Why do it the way they did other than to make a little more money? I think they were trying to turn their lemons into lemonade. I wish they made it an all in one with the M1 Max or Ultra. My 2014 Mac is on its death bed, and I'm not about to replace it with this... $4000 to 6000 dollar setup...
Yes, I agree. Maybe the A13 boards were prototype development boards just like Mac Mini Developer kit (A12Z chip), maybe they just found another way to repurpose the already in stock A13 as the only iPhone which was being sold at that point was iPhone SE 2 (2020) and now they updated it to iPhone SE 3 (2022). I guess they just didn't want to take loss on the already in stock A13, so slap it on the iMac 27inch Prototype, use it as an ISP and Audio Chip and call it a day as a monitor.
That's a real possibility, but if this iMac was going to be a "Pro Version", it would need Pro Motion to match the 14 + 16 inch Macbook Pros. I don't think they could have cooled an M1 Pro/Max with a 1000 nit 27 inch Mini LED Display. It really could have been a cost issue with Mini LED, where Apple split the cost and decided to separate the computer from the display.
@@dsdddsd4543we This! The point about mini LED (and cooling) is very interesting, also regarding potential 120 Hz and 1000 nits...? It might be the key to why this wasn't just a home run 27-inch iMac-(pro)-to-go with an awesome XDR display built in - I would love to see someone delve into the details on what components might be missing from this kind of picture (yes oh yes puns indeed). Imho, it seems like Apple might have secured a lot of M1/Ax chips but might be tight on getting some other part of the picture to line up.
I don't believe this is the exact same display panel as the 5K iMac (stated at 2:10), they simply have the same size and resolution. It has a wider color range, better contrast, better brightness. I would be very surprised if the LCD panel had the same manufacturer model number as the iMac.
@Radu A. Right? It's amazing how they spent the R&D money and time to develop the connector for the iMacs, then went and did this. (Disclaimer, this was not a collection of my original thoughts, I'm pretty sure Luke and Linus expressed this realization on the WAN show, but I can't find the exact timestamp.)
@Radu A. Exactly. And the real irony here is that they went to the hassle of engineering a new socket/cord design despite already having a slick (and much-hyped) "mag safe" solution on the iMac, so we know that the lack of user friendliness is entirely intentional. Moreover, you know who gets to foot the bill for that antagonistic R&D cost in the end...
@@nimoy007 the iMac requires an external power brick. They wanted this monitor to be AC connectable, so they had to go a different road to keep that form factor.
@@carholic-sz3qv …thinner power supply doesn’t just happen. The types of capacitors used for power supply are NOT that small, there has to be clever circuit design, like use several smaller capacitors to replace a big one, etc. Samsung’s miniled tv also had to redesign the power supply to fit into the chassis.
@@AaronFigFront it’s nothing that only apple alone could make, it’s a flat design so the engineering and technology/parts to make it possible, plus the latest mosfets techs makes them more efficient and smaller
Seems like it would have been much, much easier to just sell us a 27" iMac like we have used for a decade. Now we have to spend twice as much money to get basically the same thing as we had before. Such a love-hate relationship with this company.
the main improvement on this would be moving to screws to hold on the display rather than glue otherwise it is quite reparable as screens go very reparable: PCBs can all be removed easily (no glue) IO is on its own dedicated seperate boards The PowerSupply might look odd but compared to an external brick this looks much more reparable as most external bricks form almost all vendors end up being filled with glue/resign since they expect to be dropeed/kicked etc when hot so need to secure all the internals very very well, they don't have that expectation with the screen so accessing and repairing the PSU should be a LOT simpler than your typical external brick. (talking board level repair here). Or course with an external brick you can just throw it away and create more e-wast.
Repair ability is irrelevant these days. We live in a use it and replace it society. When was the last time you got your shoes fixed instead of buying new?
@@joshuaorange8290 Recently got my sued soals replaced not that expletive, here in NZ basicly every shopping centre has a shoe smith who will do it rather quickly. An external PSU with 200W+ would need a custom connector to the screen and would cost a LOT (At least $300 if not $500) to replace for that price you can get a board level repair to fix the internal PSU.
they can but they won't. So it meets their agenda of "repairs are dangerous and should only be done by us". Apple is anti-repair so they have no interest in making it safe and easy.
@@AlkaVirus repair of the power supply brick is much much harder however. This single large flat power supply that is spread over multiple boards might well be one of the easiest modern PSU designed to repair given the easy access to all the components. I don't think apple is actively anti repair that is to say they do not put extra work in to make things harder to repair they just do not consider third party repair in thier designs. (in thier eyes they don't bother 'wasting time'' considering third party repair). As to safe, im not sure any there is any way to make a PSU repair 'safe' if your repairing a PSU the nature of the function of these units means they will have large capacitors and if you skew up best case you destroy the rest of the device worst case you start a fire. Even if apple stoped designing all other products and focused on 'safe' PSU repair (not replacement but true minimal e-waist repair) they would not be able to come up with a PSU design that was safer to repair (replacing the entire PSU is not good for the env remember). Given that nature of a PSU repair (were you go in and repair it rather than replace it) I think it is a rather good thing that its not trivial to attempt. This is the sort of component that you should only be approaching if your sure about what your doing as a f'up here can lead to issues that are rather nasty.
@@popcorny007 your well aware that an external power brick of this power rating (unless It had an included fan) would be much more likly to die meaning much more e-wast over all. also this is a monitor how many monitor out there have external power bricks? To be clear It would be much better if the opted to use some screws on the case so you could open it up without needing to replace the sticky strips around the display but at this point opening an iMac is not considered difficult for a repair location, in many ways a lot simpler than opening your typical external power supply.
But why put the power supply in the monitor? It just seems that they are creating a solution for something that wasn't a problem in the first place. I personally prefer to have my power cable detachable, in case it gets pulled.
all recent jailbreaks that does not utilize a bootrom/iboot exploit (which is extremely rare) required code execution on the device in the first place so probably a long time. We don't have code execution on the display in the first place because apps is not a thing.
@@Finder245 I think your correct in that the SoC is not decoding the display port signal (why would the A13 have a display port signal decoder after all). I think it is mostly operating as a hand holding device that the computer talks to to controle backlight, camera, speakers, mic etc.
It’s just a gorgeous designed display. I bought the one with the height and pivot stand and nano textured glass. No regrets for my corporate workflow , teams , PowerPoint and word docs. Single cable charges the MacBook Pro and connects the display. Aesthetically it’s a work of art. First prize would have been the Pro Display XDR but this was the more affordable alternative with the same design language.
"Apple's power engineering team clearly put a lot of effort into this" Looking at the markings on the power supplies it would seem they are in fact designed by SoluM, a South Korea power supply company.
@@greebo7857 SoluM are not a contract manufacturer; they are a display power supply design company. Apple subcontract a significant amount of design work for many of their products. Apple will have written the spec for this power supply, that is all.
My tinfoil hat theory is that the Studio Display is actually supposed to be an 27in iMac, but Apple decided nah and yoinked its M1/M1Pro chip and stuff like bluetooth / peripheral controllers and plopped back in a gimped A13 in its place.
@@chriswho12345 It looks like a pretty old project (thickness!), I think might be designed to be one of the very first ARM Mac's, even before the M1 was born. For me, this monitor looks like the missing link between an Aluminium Unibody iMac and current 24" one.
Base iPhone 11 is 64Gb they just took A13 and other chips like that 64Gb flash from broken iPhone 11's and soldered it there. Cheaper to use stuff you have laying around than to buy new ones.
Those cutouts for the Capacitors in the PCB has been a thing for decades, Slim-LCD and LED TV manufacturers have been doing this. I've opened quite a few Sony and Panasonics and they all have the same slick PSUs in them.
@@hishnash ...but it could have been an external power brick, like the one used for the iMac. Also, 95W is not a lot of power. MacBook Pro power brick provide that and they are inside a plastic enclosure. It looks like someone at Apple wanted to avoid having an external power brick at all cost, so they sacrificed repairability, and possibly reliability for it.
@@Finder245 But the display is not just powering the Mac, it is also providing power to the screen and to the other USB ports. You could put the tin a sealed plastic box but it would be much less reparable than this power supply due to the much higher level of protection you would need to give it given it being much more likly to be dropped, kicked etc in use.
If they make a bigger imac that looks like the studio display it will be just perfect. I think they can easily fit the board of m1 max chip if the put the PSU externally like the m1 imac
The Issue with putting gate PSU external is power, that magectic connection the M1 iMac users just cant provide that power levels needed. I think they would stick with internal PSU for such products were the thickness is not the ultimate goal.
They are a thing for sure but not very long cables, and the power supply in the brick would need a fan (not optimal if its sitting on the floor sucking in dust, pet hair etc).
@@hishnash i just said they could do this if they wanted to used the exact same design (which i really like). But i would also prefer it to be inside and the whole computer to be thicker
@bruh it does seem that way, but it is a bit surprising from Apple. They have the resources to design multiple competing products in parallel and only release the ones that make sense.
Well the 64GB of storage are when you take your screen along to work (every day) to use it as a external storage of course. Now you don't have to carry around a heavy USB thumb drive wou might lose on your Keychain anymore.
Not knowing Macs I also got it wrong because I assumed anything with active cooling has to be the computer. Who would build a display that needs a fan...
@@GeraldMMonroe brought to you by the same company, who decided it was a good idea to build a MacBook Air where the fan doesn't connect with the heat sink. GENIUS.
Most people don’t know or even care how a simple toaster works so no, they don’t know. That’s doesn’t make them dummer, they just aren’t interested in this kind of technology as we are. E.g. some are interest in biochemistry and gets this pandemic cured.
Samsung actually does the same thing with the power supplies in their ultra thin TVs and I believe LG has as well. I've even seen neat little end caps that go over the top end of the capacitors that solder to the board instead of using glue to hold them down.
The reason it is TB3 not 4 there is not TB dock within the display, to clarify a client device (like a screen) as having TB4 port on it that device needs to support TB dasichianing otherwise it is TB3 (TB3 is TB4 but without some of these additional features). TB daisy chaining would not make sense since to power the 5k display your already using more than 1/2 of the TB bandwidth so if you attach some other TB device to it its not going to end up with much bandwidth.
@@nickthaskater true, but for a display the table of TB3 vs TB4 makes 0 difference in functionality. They could even say USB-4 it would all be the same to the end use and even at a component lavel would all be the same controler.
@@nickthaskater But you cant really use this monitor as a TB hub since the 5k signal alone uses up more than 1/2 the bandwidth. Any TB device you would plug into it would be massively limited and would have issues as to support the 5k stream the TB is put into a mode that would be very problematic when it comes to semtric bandwidth.
Apple: Designing and producing a clever thin PSU to incorporate everything inside the chassis 😎 Also Apple: a MoUsE thAt cHaRgeS fROm tHe bOtTUm iNsTeAD Of thE TOp 🥴
So definitely no wifi? If it just had wifi this thing could have minimally been a standalone Apple TV. I get not running macOS from a A-series chip, but why not let it do Apple TV for like $3 more in hardware?
A big shout out for the clip used at 3:33, that is so funny LOL. In fact, it is no speaker vibration, just vibratory motors Mod in the monitor for FPS games.
Yeah, but the Studio Display's A13 Bionic chip lacks any of the Rosetta hardware that translates x86 apps into Apple Silicon ones. Meaning Rosetta will either work very slowly, or not work at all., probably the former, but who knows. Also the very limited 64GB of storage will ruin this thing plus the 4GB of ram.
I’m guessing they tried to stick an M1 Ultra in here and cooked the computer. We had stories from last year where Apple was having trouble with the 27” iMac and diverted their engineers to make sure the M1 iMac 24” made it out the door. I think they tried to turn this into the 27” iMac and failed to find a way to properly cool that M1 Ultra and made the decision to split up the display and the computer. Thus was born the Studio Display and the Mac Studio.
@@worththewatch1517 My theory is that the Mac Studio is the result of a failed attempt to make a 27” iMac. The M1 Max version would be the replacement for the iMac while the M1 Ultra would have been the replacement for the iMac Pro. The fans and heat sink on the Mac Studio are way too big to fit in this chassis that became the Studio Display. I’m assuming the Mac Studio has what Apple intended the 27” Apple Silicon iMac to have: an M1 Max or an M1 Ultra since the 27” iMac and iMac Pro Intel versions were identical form factors. I’ll bet they could have cooled an M1 Max… maybe… but I doubt there was any way to cool an M1 Ultra in this chassis, hence a decision to split computer and monitor into two. They probably have plans for the M1 Pro, likely a Mac mini to replace the Intel Mac mini that’s still being sold.
On a client device like a screen thee really is not difference. TB3 and TB4 are the same from a screens perspective, if there were a TB dock within the screen then it would be TB4 but as it is not it is TB3.
waitwaitwait, there's not a high end pro imac but they've used the same display in an imac to make the studio display and made a mac studio for which you're 'recommended' buying a studio display for?
Question. I am interested on rebuilding my MacBook Air 2013. The display is great. The battery, memory, power cord all needs updating. Any suggestions? Many thanks. Before I forget, I have a wonderful tool kit I purchased from ifixit and it has come in handy! Great call! Semper Fi
I'm curious peoples opinion on the vent holes placed at the top flat level of the aluminum exterior. Should we be worried about dust accumulating right through the top?? My old imac top was smooth and collected a lot of dust. I was grateful there weren't any vent holes there. That machine lasted 11 years. Will a can of air really get it clean in there? Is it safe to vacuum the top if it is unplugged?
My theory is that it is an iMac. However, the cooling solution and chassy might not be able to keep the M1 Ultra, which is the headline and the selling point of the bigger macs, cool enough. It might just ran over 80-90°C. I saw MaxTech's video on this and the gigantic m1 ultra copper cooler is the one that keep the temp in an impressive low temperature. But that is a giant thicc boi of a cooling solution. If it were on the cramp iMac chassy, the cooling may not be adequate since the heat of the 5K display, and that PSU + that powerful M1 Ultra chip might be a big problem for that little space of a chassy.
It would be cool if Apple stuck an M1 GPU inside that thing. Obviously it would be bottlenecked by that thunderbolt cable, but Apple could have stuck some M! GPU cores inside that thing, where it's just a cluster of GPU, RAM, and Encoder and decoder engines inside the studio display. The Studio Display has the cooling hardware for it, and Maybe something like a 32 core GPU, maybe even a 64 core could run in that thing to boost graphics performance for an M1 based mac. Include some memory, and Media engine blocks, and that would make for a better display
The entire display shell becomes electrically static to the touch for me when connected to a MBP 16" Intel. Doesn't happen with the Mac mini (likely because it's not supplying 100W of power to it). Putting the power supply inside was very weird. Even my keyboard, connected to the display over usb-c, seems to have voltage on it?
I am having a hard time trying to understand what a "monitor"/"display" is doing with iOS that isn't user accessible, the bionic chip and 64gb of storage... I feel Apple is collecting a LOT of data by using that display. I do not trust apple with all they have been doing with their products. All of their products seem to benefit them much more than their customers.
@@axethepenguin not to add to the conspiracy because I really doubt they are doing this, but they could do it the same way Smart TV manufacturers have been doing and logging what content you are watching and keeping a profile for marketing purposes. And if it has an A13, it technically does have connection to the internet through the Ultrawide Band that communicates with other iPhones (the tech inside the AirTags). The fatal flaw with this idea is that this monitor is designed to work with MacOS. What kind of additional data would they be able to get that wouldn’t be easier to get elsewhere? You’re already using their hardware and software and it even updates the firmware if it’s plugged into a Mac. Why even bother with the hassle and potential backlash? The simple answer is they probably had a bunch of binned A13s that weren’t good enough for going inside an iPhone or iPad. And they really wanted to add the camera enhancements like Center Stage to the webcam. So rather than designing a completely new chip that will take time and money to design and produce, they decided to just use old stock that they had to do the same thing.
@@ThatLaloBoy i instantly thought of the AirTag tech as well but now that you put it that way; i think the monitor might help with the VR/AR line up Apple is working on. Lots of companies use external cameras to help hand, leg & body tracking. Hololive girls use motion-tracking via webcams & sometimes iPhones to control their Avatar. and if I get a little more tin-foil hatty: It might be called the "Studio" , not for OUR studio but for Apple's "Studio". Just think of the day the first iPhone came out & the app store is kinda empty. Only those with an Apple computer could create apps. The studio line up will prob be geared to create new Apps for their VR/AR platform more effectively.
Can it render images on screen without the A13? Can one place the logic board of an iMac or Mac mini or even MacBook Pro in here and get a new 27-inch iMac?
This thing splits my opinion. In general i prefer an internal psu but i dont think i would pick that over a replaceable cable. it feels like it chose the worse of both options. The larger frame of an integral psu with the length restrictions and cost of replacement that come with a brick.
the cable can be removed it is replaceable. the fact is an internal psu with the cooling etc its getting is much more likly to live a long life than an external brick that will just get hot, drop of desk while hot etc.
cool, its a phone with 27" lcd panel, Apps are missing and is there a WLAN modul? this is no computer Monitor! I miss the lightning connector and the specs of RAM and SSD! I think the price is okay if I can put Apps and a browser on it.the next will have M1
2:19 I am not sure but I think you guys uses the rong screw driver😅 It looks like u are using a Torx for a different kind of screw that looks a like but is more rounded. This isn't the word thing you could do but it increases the chance of stripping the screw.
I have to wonder if they just couldn't get certain features out the door before the display's launch. Having an A13 and 64GB of memory means this display has the horsepower to become at least a decent standalone 'Apple TV' display.
But some of the engineering aspects-from the non-user-serviceable power cord and mounting bracket/VESA mount-to the thickness of the display in general-are baffling. If they just took the iMac, swapped the guts for a display controller, and used an external magsafe power supply like the iMac, I think people would've been happier.
I don’t think it has 64GB of memory. Storage yes, memory no.
@@huggyuk storage *is* memory though, it's just non-volitile, and we have come to often use the word 'memory' for volitile RAM and 'storage' for non-volitile memory like HDDs and SSDs
I expect the reason it has this config is that is the smallest HAND die that meets the spec apple need for the HAND controler within the A13. As to why they are using an A13 apple llikly have 1000s of these that have binning issues meaning they cant use them in phones but are completely ok in a monitor (1 to 2 cpus cores with defects is not going to impact the use case here at all). Apple has used binned chips in the past in the HomePod mini getting binned Apple Watch cpus.
Considering that we are talking about an Apple product, I think it’s safe to assume that it is this way because they wanted it to be this way. These are not mistakes that could be explained by some engineers screwing up and some validations getting skipped. These are all things that would have been decided on the marketing requirements level.
My best guess is that someone at Apple is really pushing for internal power supplies because they look nicer. That would explain why the Mac Studio and this display both have internal power supplies. They probably didn’t like how it would look to have three external power supplies if you had a Mac Studio with two matching displays.
I suspect that the stand is both a cost saving measure and an upsell strategy. You are more likely to get the more expensive solution if you are worried that you can’t upgrade later.
Is this wrong? Idk.. Maybe? In practice, I don’t think this matters as long as Apple doesn’t force you to use their displays with their computers.
Pandemic and Chip Shortages Give birth to interesting Engineering Choices
Overengineered the heck out of that power supply but fogot to design a power cord that can be removed easily. Apple just likes to do one good thing at a time.
Apple just want a minor issue so that if the customer wants to avoid it, they have to pay big money on the 5k$ XDR Display
(the cord design is on purpose)
Apple: can’t do more unless u pay more
This is the AC power cable from the wall outlet unlike the iMAC Macsafe which is DC from external power supply. DC voltage is lower and it has circuitry to detect proper attached before it let the current run. You can't do that with AC from the wall outlet so you have to make the connector very strong especially when you have less than an inch to plug it in.
Its never a mistake
Apple's galaxy brain engineering team.
They made a Laptop _without_ Fans & a Display _with_ Fans.
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Clearly, you have zero clue about engineering and thermal management. Go troll elsewhere and let the adults talk.
@@Gmon750 Clearly you have no sense of humour.
@@Gmon750 r/whoosh
@@Gmon750 r/whoosh
As an electronics engineer myself, I think the power supply is INSANE amount of over engineering for a chassis that thick, BUT that said, I LOVE IT. I've seen all sorts of low profile components but I've never seen anyone CUT INTO the board, to make them even lower in profile. I mean, the Capacitors? They're LONG AF! but they knew, if these weren't this long, they would've been fat and a design hazard. The Common mode Chokes are another highlight of the low profile design. But in some places, since the thickness allowed it, they chose to go with Through hole Diodes, which is weird, but I get that makes the work easy. Also, Current ratings might've been an issue. I know this post doesn't belong here, but maybe someone finds it as interesting as I do. :)
As electronics engineer you shouldnt be surprized by cutouts for components in low profile power supply. That kind of design is common as mud in all sorts of low profile power supplies for monitors and TVs. And those are not through hole diodes, that, most likely Y type caps or MOVs. Diode bridge is through hole, yeah. And most important, that power supply was not designed by Apple. It was designed by power supply manufacturer SoluM (see silkscreen logo on PCB). SoluM was spun off from Samsung Electro-Mechanics in 2015. So, all impressive parts in Apple designed by Samsung :)
Gotta say, the internals look as great as the external.
That power supply looks stunning!
thats apple in general
Form before function...
Once it breaks you're doomed to overpriced Apple support, because none other repair-shop can get the proprietary parts.
I like the way they engineer there stuff
Instead of making the inside look all pretty for whatever reason, they could put more effort into making it more repairable and upgradable
To me it just looks like this display and the iMac were developed by two completely different teams that didn‘t talk to each other (maybe because of secrecy shenanigans inside Apple). Otherwise I really can‘t explain the two baffling dissimilar approaches for a very similar thing.
The display is handled by their professional team who make the MacBook Pro this display and things like the Mac Pro and studio whilst the iMac is made by the consumer line unless it is a pro mod where the teams interact
I wonder if someone will make an open source bootloader or some sort of jailbreak that will allow an OS to run, would be interesting to see if people can hack the hardware to make proper use of that a12 chip
this thing could run iPadOS
A13*
@@juliet0001 This thing could run MacOS
or Asahi Linux, since Apple's OSes are proprietary
@@KangJangkrik it's already technically running iOS, it wouldn't take much more than a method of running a custom ipsw etc to get this running, the hard part would be creating a new bootloader
Did you miss one of the most discussed components, the stand ? How is that removed ?
Probably with those seven pentalobe screws in the middle of the chassis you can see at 4:09
@@TheMilanMovies yes that are for sure the screws for the stand but what about the holes for a vesa mount? are they already in the back just covered by the backplate? or maybe there will be external vesa mounts which are fitting these seven screw holes i mean woul be great for people which would like to upgrade by themself without bringing the display to an apple store.
@Carl Gunderson it doesnt remove? didnt you see the screws on the back?
@@TheZPremio it isn't *meant* to be removed would be the more accurate statement.
@Carl Gunderson It can be changed at a later date, but only at an apple store, not by the user.
The display is what the imac should've been
Whats wrong with the iMac?
@@jeanbutinfrench I think he's talking about the big bezels
@LPF Yep. Scrap an all in one display and computer to launch a computer and a separate display that use bits (even the literal same LCD panel) from the all in one computer. I'd applaud the genius if I didn't hate the ethics haha
Bro facts!!!
thats actually true, you nailed it, i would love a thin Apple display without any speakers, camera, etc at a much better price
I wonder why apple spent so much time to reinvent the power supply, instead of just copying the iMac magsafe connector.
iMac magsafe, iphone magsafe and macbook magsafe are all dc connectors with lower wattage, after the external power supply. In this case we are talking up to 240V ac connector, it needed to be a different beast (obviously didn’t need to be stuck).
@@FernandoAES FINALLY someone with brains, THANK YOU. Finally someone that know the difference between low-voltag DC and 110-240V AC.
@@FernandoAES 🤔 I heard that it has to be fixed connector so a) there is lower risk for the after shock but most of all 2) easier to get through regulations and testing 😆 I’m still surprised about this solution because, instead of packing line, they have to consider already in assembly line what kind of plugs are used in the area they ship the goods in. When you have a separate power cord they can just add it as the final accessory with localized information and packaging.
@@kperttul They still probably add the right cord just before packaging. It does just plug in, just very hard to pull out.
@@kperttul At least with solid state displays they don't have to manufacture different versions for northern and southern hemispheres as used to be required for collimations magnets, etc. on cathode ray tube displays to accommodate different polarity of the Earth's magnetic field. :-)
After seeing this I'm convinced that this design was originally going to be the new 27" iMac but then at some point, likely within the last year, they decided to go forward with the Mac Studio as the only pro-summer desktop, so as to not have them compete against each other. They then converted this into the separate Studio Display and hastily converted it to use the A13 instead of a M1 Pro or M1 Max.
There is just way too much tight integration and effort here for what is really ancient display panel, this it way over engineered for what it delivers.
This is a very compelling point, and I think I could add to that: Supply chain issues.
Apple seems to have avoided most of this, but I think they were unable to secure enough supply (of some component) to make this a M1 iMac. The power supply and internal design is very costly, as pointed out; if they could make this for both the possibly low-volume Studio Display _and_ the higher-volume iMac, then I think they would. But for some reason they couldn't make it, or at least release models of both the 27-inch iMac and the Mac Studio that would make sense on the market.
Also: The Mac Studio looks like it was designed for Intel, with its enormous cooling, as a follow up to the trash can Mac Pro. Possibly shelved when they decided to make the current Mac Pro (and standalone display), but then pulled out again because they could smack an M1 Extreme inside. EDIT: And shelved because Intel didn't deliver on efficient CPUs that would fit the thermal envelope. Possibly also shelved because the external GPU saga is _something_.
I think there has been some amazing developments within the chip team and with Rosetta 2 that actually made some products push ahead way faster, combine this with the general shortages, making the lineup and release schedule seem a bit odd.
I honestly think you're right that this is the case... Why do it the way they did other than to make a little more money? I think they were trying to turn their lemons into lemonade.
I wish they made it an all in one with the M1 Max or Ultra. My 2014 Mac is on its death bed, and I'm not about to replace it with this... $4000 to 6000 dollar setup...
Yes, I agree. Maybe the A13 boards were prototype development boards just like Mac Mini Developer kit (A12Z chip), maybe they just found another way to repurpose the already in stock A13 as the only iPhone which was being sold at that point was iPhone SE 2 (2020) and now they updated it to iPhone SE 3 (2022). I guess they just didn't want to take loss on the already in stock A13, so slap it on the iMac 27inch Prototype, use it as an ISP and Audio Chip and call it a day as a monitor.
That's a real possibility, but if this iMac was going to be a "Pro Version", it would need Pro Motion to match the 14 + 16 inch Macbook Pros. I don't think they could have cooled an M1 Pro/Max with a 1000 nit 27 inch Mini LED Display. It really could have been a cost issue with Mini LED, where Apple split the cost and decided to separate the computer from the display.
@@dsdddsd4543we This! The point about mini LED (and cooling) is very interesting, also regarding potential 120 Hz and 1000 nits...?
It might be the key to why this wasn't just a home run 27-inch iMac-(pro)-to-go with an awesome XDR display built in - I would love to see someone delve into the details on what components might be missing from this kind of picture (yes oh yes puns indeed).
Imho, it seems like Apple might have secured a lot of M1/Ax chips but might be tight on getting some other part of the picture to line up.
Wonderful teardown and impressive engineering inside the display! 👏😎
I don't believe this is the exact same display panel as the 5K iMac (stated at 2:10), they simply have the same size and resolution. It has a wider color range, better contrast, better brightness. I would be very surprised if the LCD panel had the same manufacturer model number as the iMac.
Extra vibration montage was epic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
2:23 Linus Tech Tips be like:
"Use the force, Luke!"
Honestly, Apple, it shouldn't be this hard to design a user-friendly power cord.
So, open the whole thing to get easy access to the power cord ? O.o Easy peasy.
@Radu A. Right? It's amazing how they spent the R&D money and time to develop the connector for the iMacs, then went and did this. (Disclaimer, this was not a collection of my original thoughts, I'm pretty sure Luke and Linus expressed this realization on the WAN show, but I can't find the exact timestamp.)
@Radu A. Exactly. And the real irony here is that they went to the hassle of engineering a new socket/cord design despite already having a slick (and much-hyped) "mag safe" solution on the iMac, so we know that the lack of user friendliness is entirely intentional. Moreover, you know who gets to foot the bill for that antagonistic R&D cost in the end...
The shadeeee they basically called Linus a weakling 🤣
@@nimoy007 the iMac requires an external power brick. They wanted this monitor to be AC connectable, so they had to go a different road to keep that form factor.
That power supply is a thing of beauty. Crazy.
Lol….. it’s not! They just made a much larger/slimer power supply.
I’ve never seen board cut outs for the coils to fit into like that, have you?
I notices it after i see your reply. Jeez that whole for coil is really fantastic design.
@@carholic-sz3qv …thinner power supply doesn’t just happen. The types of capacitors used for power supply are NOT that small, there has to be clever circuit design, like use several smaller capacitors to replace a big one, etc. Samsung’s miniled tv also had to redesign the power supply to fit into the chassis.
@@AaronFigFront it’s nothing that only apple alone could make, it’s a flat design so the engineering and technology/parts to make it possible, plus the latest mosfets techs makes them more efficient and smaller
Seems like it would have been much, much easier to just sell us a 27" iMac like we have used for a decade. Now we have to spend twice as much money to get basically the same thing as we had before. Such a love-hate relationship with this company.
Big lol at the “extra vibration in the speaker system being a major problem” 😂
This: "If they can make a power supply this thin, I think they can figure out how to make repairs safe and easy". Straight to the point.
the main improvement on this would be moving to screws to hold on the display rather than glue otherwise it is quite reparable as screens go very reparable:
PCBs can all be removed easily (no glue)
IO is on its own dedicated seperate boards
The PowerSupply might look odd but compared to an external brick this looks much more reparable as most external bricks form almost all vendors end up being filled with glue/resign since they expect to be dropeed/kicked etc when hot so need to secure all the internals very very well, they don't have that expectation with the screen so accessing and repairing the PSU should be a LOT simpler than your typical external brick. (talking board level repair here). Or course with an external brick you can just throw it away and create more e-wast.
Repair ability is irrelevant these days. We live in a use it and replace it society. When was the last time you got your shoes fixed instead of buying new?
@@joshuaorange8290 Recently got my sued soals replaced not that expletive, here in NZ basicly every shopping centre has a shoe smith who will do it rather quickly.
An external PSU with 200W+ would need a custom connector to the screen and would cost a LOT (At least $300 if not $500) to replace for that price you can get a board level repair to fix the internal PSU.
they can but they won't. So it meets their agenda of "repairs are dangerous and should only be done by us". Apple is anti-repair so they have no interest in making it safe and easy.
@@AlkaVirus repair of the power supply brick is much much harder however. This single large flat power supply that is spread over multiple boards might well be one of the easiest modern PSU designed to repair given the easy access to all the components.
I don't think apple is actively anti repair that is to say they do not put extra work in to make things harder to repair they just do not consider third party repair in thier designs. (in thier eyes they don't bother 'wasting time'' considering third party repair).
As to safe, im not sure any there is any way to make a PSU repair 'safe' if your repairing a PSU the nature of the function of these units means they will have large capacitors and if you skew up best case you destroy the rest of the device worst case you start a fire. Even if apple stoped designing all other products and focused on 'safe' PSU repair (not replacement but true minimal e-waist repair) they would not be able to come up with a PSU design that was safer to repair (replacing the entire PSU is not good for the env remember).
Given that nature of a PSU repair (were you go in and repair it rather than replace it) I think it is a rather good thing that its not trivial to attempt. This is the sort of component that you should only be approaching if your sure about what your doing as a f'up here can lead to issues that are rather nasty.
take all those parts out, how to put them back ?
Play the video backwards.
ifixit team is quite frankly one of best individuals, I have ever seen.
How did you remove the stand? I want a VESA mount but its like 10 week wait so wondering if its possible to do it myself
Fun fact: the studio display is actually running a very, very locked down version of iOS!
Repairability score?
The x-ray view of iFixit uncovers all. Best of luck team your job is awesome.
We should all focus on the fact you could've easily swapped dead power supply if it was external.
But it would be massive brick. As the display provides a loaf of power delivery over the TB and ISB poerts
@@hishnash So happy to sacrifice repairability for a minor inconvenience :(
And Apple dares to call itself environmentally conscious.
@@popcorny007 your well aware that an external power brick of this power rating (unless It had an included fan) would be much more likly to die meaning much more e-wast over all.
also this is a monitor how many monitor out there have external power bricks?
To be clear It would be much better if the opted to use some screws on the case so you could open it up without needing to replace the sticky strips around the display but at this point opening an iMac is not considered difficult for a repair location, in many ways a lot simpler than opening your typical external power supply.
Not like any other monitor as an external power supply? I'd really love to see one.
@@hishnash but when the repairman did a little mistake (like splitting stubborn glue goes wrong), then the entire device being a trash
How did they think the studio display was the imac? Do they live under a rock?
yo you got some cuties working at fixit. I need to get to that office.
Fun fact: There were board cutouts for caps on the 27” LED (and Thunderbolt) Cinema Display’s power supply already…
There are board cutouts in the power supply of about every cheap TV since about 5 years.
But why put the power supply in the monitor? It just seems that they are creating a solution for something that wasn't a problem in the first place. I personally prefer to have my power cable detachable, in case it gets pulled.
wonder how long it'll take someone to make the display into a standalone computer...
difficulty will be breaking the iBoot signature, not sure if there are any iBoot level jailbreaks yet.
all recent jailbreaks that does not utilize a bootrom/iboot exploit (which is extremely rare) required code execution on the device in the first place so probably a long time. We don't have code execution on the display in the first place because apps is not a thing.
While I don't know for sure, I doubt that the SoC can drive the display.
@@Finder245 I think your correct in that the SoC is not decoding the display port signal (why would the A13 have a display port signal decoder after all). I think it is mostly operating as a hand holding device that the computer talks to to controle backlight, camera, speakers, mic etc.
It already runs iOS 15.4
It’s just a gorgeous designed display. I bought the one with the height and pivot stand and nano textured glass. No regrets for my corporate workflow , teams , PowerPoint and word docs. Single cable charges the MacBook Pro and connects the display. Aesthetically it’s a work of art. First prize would have been the Pro Display XDR but this was the more affordable alternative with the same design language.
Wow that power supply is impressive!!
Too bad for the lowest quality capacitors money can buy "capxon"
seriously?!? capxon?!?
Why not put A13 in the display , so after some time it can show message that is no longer supported and you need to buy new one.
"Apple's power engineering team clearly put a lot of effort into this"
Looking at the markings on the power supplies it would seem they are in fact designed by SoluM, a South Korea power supply company.
I doubt SoluM designed them, but of course they will have made them. don't tender out design.
@@greebo7857 SoluM are not a contract manufacturer; they are a display power supply design company.
Apple subcontract a significant amount of design work for many of their products. Apple will have written the spec for this power supply, that is all.
Apple paid for it, so that's at least partial credit.
The studio display is what the iMac should’ve been in the first place
My tinfoil hat theory is that the Studio Display is actually supposed to be an 27in iMac, but Apple decided nah and yoinked its M1/M1Pro chip and stuff like bluetooth / peripheral controllers and plopped back in a gimped A13 in its place.
The using old parts. That’s smart
@@chriswho12345 It looks like a pretty old project (thickness!), I think might be designed to be one of the very first ARM Mac's, even before the M1 was born. For me, this monitor looks like the missing link between an Aluminium Unibody iMac and current 24" one.
same idea
@@piker-pl maybe they had two competing prototypes and one became iMac 24 and this instead of iMac became monitor.
Honestly, I could see them doing that. I mean, the design definitely has the makings of an AS 27" iMac.
Apple making electric toothbrush:"let's put a A14 in it
Tim Cook:"why not"
No, the M1 Toothbrush
Please take apart the height adjusting mechanism. Great content guys!
Her: he's probably talking to other girls
Him: this power supply is stunning!
3:11 Did I actually hear 64Go of storage ...for some reason... ?
What's going on here ?
Do Apple need 64Go of storage to activate AirPlay on this ?
With the price of solid state as it is, it probably wouldn't be worth it to source 32 even if it worked.
Base iPhone 11 is 64Gb they just took A13 and other chips like that 64Gb flash from broken iPhone 11's and soldered it there. Cheaper to use stuff you have laying around than to buy new ones.
Those cutouts for the Capacitors in the PCB has been a thing for decades, Slim-LCD and LED TV manufacturers have been doing this. I've opened quite a few Sony and Panasonics and they all have the same slick PSUs in them.
Well my ultra thin power supply blew up. Just be careful if your Display starts to play up.
This monitor is so confusing. It performs like a $600 monitor but is built like a $5000 one
5k screen? $600? r u kidding?
@@geostel hahaha same thought
@@geostelidk display market is 5k display for 600 cheap or expensive?
4:12 Wow that power supply is very impressive. I think it's over engineered. It looks so beautiful, but looks useless
Provides 95w of power to attached laptops and power to Other usb devices at the same time so needed
Agreed in the the PC world but in the Mac world very needed and appreciated!
@@hishnash ...but it could have been an external power brick, like the one used for the iMac. Also, 95W is not a lot of power. MacBook Pro power brick provide that and they are inside a plastic enclosure. It looks like someone at Apple wanted to avoid having an external power brick at all cost, so they sacrificed repairability, and possibly reliability for it.
This would only someone say who has absolutely no idea about electrical engineering
@@Finder245 But the display is not just powering the Mac, it is also providing power to the screen and to the other USB ports. You could put the tin a sealed plastic box but it would be much less reparable than this power supply due to the much higher level of protection you would need to give it given it being much more likly to be dropped, kicked etc in use.
No internal antennae at all? Was secretly hoping they would be able to enable Airplay or Apple TV functionality at some point
Would require apple to get extra certification, anything that emits wireless communications needs a load more certification.
@@hishnash Good context. Thanks!
If they make a bigger imac that looks like the studio display it will be just perfect. I think they can easily fit the board of m1 max chip if the put the PSU externally like the m1 imac
The Issue with putting gate PSU external is power, that magectic connection the M1 iMac users just cant provide that power levels needed. I think they would stick with internal PSU for such products were the thickness is not the ultimate goal.
@@hishnash High current DC connectors are a thing. You can push 240W over a USB Type-C port. Larger connectors can deliver a lot more power.
They are a thing for sure but not very long cables, and the power supply in the brick would need a fan (not optimal if its sitting on the floor sucking in dust, pet hair etc).
@@hishnash i just said they could do this if they wanted to used the exact same design (which i really like). But i would also prefer it to be inside and the whole computer to be thicker
@bruh it does seem that way, but it is a bit surprising from Apple. They have the resources to design multiple competing products in parallel and only release the ones that make sense.
Well the 64GB of storage are when you take your screen along to work (every day) to use it as a external storage of course.
Now you don't have to carry around a heavy USB thumb drive wou might lose on your Keychain anymore.
How would they NOT know that the smaller, 24", BLUE iMac that is obviously an iMac...is the computer? Do these people know anything about tech?
I was thinking that like how
Not knowing Macs I also got it wrong because I assumed anything with active cooling has to be the computer. Who would build a display that needs a fan...
The display looks similar to the internals of a MacBook I don’t blame them bro lol
@@GeraldMMonroe brought to you by the same company, who decided it was a good idea to build a MacBook Air where the fan doesn't connect with the heat sink. GENIUS.
Most people don’t know or even care how a simple toaster works so no, they don’t know. That’s doesn’t make them dummer, they just aren’t interested in this kind of technology as we are. E.g. some are interest in biochemistry and gets this pandemic cured.
Samsung actually does the same thing with the power supplies in their ultra thin TVs and I believe LG has as well. I've even seen neat little end caps that go over the top end of the capacitors that solder to the board instead of using glue to hold them down.
Thanks
What bizzare design choices. Next think you now, they will shove a built-in helium tank and an ice-cream maker into the display.
Its amaZing how many people guessed wrong when it was so easy to tell the two apart. People really are oblivious and do NOT pay attention to details.
At 3:45 you note that it has a Thunderbolt 4 port, yet Apple's marketing cites it as Thunderbolt 3.
The reason it is TB3 not 4 there is not TB dock within the display, to clarify a client device (like a screen) as having TB4 port on it that device needs to support TB dasichianing otherwise it is TB3 (TB3 is TB4 but without some of these additional features).
TB daisy chaining would not make sense since to power the 5k display your already using more than 1/2 of the TB bandwidth so if you attach some other TB device to it its not going to end up with much bandwidth.
@@hishnash the point is the comment in the video is wrong.
@@nickthaskater true, but for a display the table of TB3 vs TB4 makes 0 difference in functionality. They could even say USB-4 it would all be the same to the end use and even at a component lavel would all be the same controler.
@@hishnash it makes a difference if you're using the monitor as a hub.
@@nickthaskater But you cant really use this monitor as a TB hub since the 5k signal alone uses up more than 1/2 the bandwidth. Any TB device you would plug into it would be massively limited and would have issues as to support the 5k stream the TB is put into a mode that would be very problematic when it comes to semtric bandwidth.
Apple: Designing and producing a clever thin PSU to incorporate everything inside the chassis 😎
Also Apple: a MoUsE thAt cHaRgeS fROm tHe bOtTUm iNsTeAD Of thE TOp 🥴
forcing wireless is the reason, all apple desktops look clean af
So definitely no wifi? If it just had wifi this thing could have minimally been a standalone Apple TV. I get not running macOS from a A-series chip, but why not let it do Apple TV for like $3 more in hardware?
What is the solution you used to loosen the glue on the speaker enclosures? IPA? Acetone?
Thanks in advance
Making a tear down look so easy! Amazing thank you!
A big shout out for the clip used at 3:33, that is so funny LOL. In fact, it is no speaker vibration, just vibratory motors Mod in the monitor for FPS games.
In the intro couldnt they tell which is which by the color?? The studio display would be the silver one, and the blue (stand) one the iMac?
They could've easily made the studio display into an imac.
Yeah, but the Studio Display's A13 Bionic chip lacks any of the Rosetta hardware that translates x86 apps into Apple Silicon ones.
Meaning Rosetta will either work very slowly, or not work at all., probably the former, but who knows.
Also the very limited 64GB of storage will ruin this thing plus the 4GB of ram.
@@TheStopwatchGod
Its not about the A13 chip. They could’ve put an m1 in it and made it into an iMac.
I’m guessing they tried to stick an M1 Ultra in here and cooked the computer. We had stories from last year where Apple was having trouble with the 27” iMac and diverted their engineers to make sure the M1 iMac 24” made it out the door. I think they tried to turn this into the 27” iMac and failed to find a way to properly cool that M1 Ultra and made the decision to split up the display and the computer. Thus was born the Studio Display and the Mac Studio.
@@techinrl9869
Who said to put an M1 ultra? They could’ve done with an a base M1 or M1 pro
@@worththewatch1517 My theory is that the Mac Studio is the result of a failed attempt to make a 27” iMac. The M1 Max version would be the replacement for the iMac while the M1 Ultra would have been the replacement for the iMac Pro. The fans and heat sink on the Mac Studio are way too big to fit in this chassis that became the Studio Display. I’m assuming the Mac Studio has what Apple intended the 27” Apple Silicon iMac to have: an M1 Max or an M1 Ultra since the 27” iMac and iMac Pro Intel versions were identical form factors. I’ll bet they could have cooled an M1 Max… maybe… but I doubt there was any way to cool an M1 Ultra in this chassis, hence a decision to split computer and monitor into two. They probably have plans for the M1 Pro, likely a Mac mini to replace the Intel Mac mini that’s still being sold.
Will there be a video on parts interchangeability between the iPhone SE 2 vs 3? (especially the battery)
When are you guys getting more series s replacement parts online
Is the Thunderbolt port TB3 (Apple) or TB4 (voiceover)?
On a client device like a screen thee really is not difference. TB3 and TB4 are the same from a screens perspective, if there were a TB dock within the screen then it would be TB4 but as it is not it is TB3.
Why did they need a power supply so big inside of there is one outside? Thanks.
I reckon they're laying the groundwork for a future imac studio
Wonderful teardown.
Is the front screen/glass panel serialized? Could you swap two of them between two different displays?
4:15 just look at how they arranged the capacitors!
I’d like to see a tear down of the iPad Air 5 then compare it to either the newest pro or iPad Air 4?
waitwaitwait, there's not a high end pro imac but they've used the same display in an imac to make the studio display and made a mac studio for which you're 'recommended' buying a studio display for?
Yes and instead of 2k it’s now closer to 5k for everything
@@Jushwa I said it somewhere else but I'd applaud the business decision if I didn't hate the ethics of it so much
Are the contestants from another planet?
So can you use it as a standalone PC?
You can't, it just enables Siri on old Macs iirc.
3:31那个片段，惊现马鹿😂
That power supply is wild!
It’s not lol…
It could have been iMac Pro, just more storage, an M1 Pro or M1 Max options and there you go, a 2nd gen iMac Pro with no chin and slim bezels.
So, is it an over designed monitor?
Does the logic board have a Bluetooth/Wifi wireless chip?
Question. I am interested on rebuilding my MacBook Air 2013. The display is great. The battery, memory, power cord all needs updating. Any suggestions? Many thanks. Before I forget, I have a wonderful tool kit I purchased from ifixit and it has come in handy! Great call! Semper Fi
Why don't these have an IEC power connector like every other device anywhere?
I'm curious peoples opinion on the vent holes placed at the top flat level of the aluminum exterior. Should we be worried about dust accumulating right through the top??
My old imac top was smooth and collected a lot of dust. I was grateful there weren't any vent holes there. That machine lasted 11 years. Will a can of air really get it clean in there? Is it safe to vacuum the top if it is unplugged?
There is way more possibilities with this display then Apple is letting on and I'll wait for the next iMac to purchase. Thanks for the great share!
Apple should've let us use it as an Apple TV.
Agree
This
It’s just lacking wifi I think
Would have to downscale to 4K.
What type of display is inside Monitor ??? Brand, ect. ?
My theory is that it is an iMac. However, the cooling solution and chassy might not be able to keep the M1 Ultra, which is the headline and the selling point of the bigger macs, cool enough. It might just ran over 80-90°C. I saw MaxTech's video on this and the gigantic m1 ultra copper cooler is the one that keep the temp in an impressive low temperature. But that is a giant thicc boi of a cooling solution. If it were on the cramp iMac chassy, the cooling may not be adequate since the heat of the 5K display, and that PSU + that powerful M1 Ultra chip might be a big problem for that little space of a chassy.
It would be cool if Apple stuck an M1 GPU inside that thing.
Obviously it would be bottlenecked by that thunderbolt cable, but Apple could have stuck some M! GPU cores inside that thing, where it's just a cluster of GPU, RAM, and Encoder and decoder engines inside the studio display.
The Studio Display has the cooling hardware for it, and Maybe something like a 32 core GPU, maybe even a 64 core could run in that thing to boost graphics performance for an M1 based mac. Include some memory, and Media engine blocks, and that would make for a better display
The entire display shell becomes electrically static to the touch for me when connected to a MBP 16" Intel.
Doesn't happen with the Mac mini (likely because it's not supplying 100W of power to it).
Putting the power supply inside was very weird. Even my keyboard, connected to the display over usb-c, seems to have voltage on it?
Why didn't they put a os on it??
I am having a hard time trying to understand what a "monitor"/"display" is doing with iOS that isn't user accessible, the bionic chip and 64gb of storage... I feel Apple is collecting a LOT of data by using that display. I do not trust apple with all they have been doing with their products. All of their products seem to benefit them much more than their customers.
idk what data they can collect if you don’t sign it in
@@axethepenguin not to add to the conspiracy because I really doubt they are doing this, but they could do it the same way Smart TV manufacturers have been doing and logging what content you are watching and keeping a profile for marketing purposes. And if it has an A13, it technically does have connection to the internet through the Ultrawide Band that communicates with other iPhones (the tech inside the AirTags).
The fatal flaw with this idea is that this monitor is designed to work with MacOS. What kind of additional data would they be able to get that wouldn’t be easier to get elsewhere? You’re already using their hardware and software and it even updates the firmware if it’s plugged into a Mac. Why even bother with the hassle and potential backlash?
The simple answer is they probably had a bunch of binned A13s that weren’t good enough for going inside an iPhone or iPad. And they really wanted to add the camera enhancements like Center Stage to the webcam. So rather than designing a completely new chip that will take time and money to design and produce, they decided to just use old stock that they had to do the same thing.
@@ThatLaloBoy yeah, I thought so! People may say apple may be the company to do something like this, but it’s not exactly practical
@@ThatLaloBoy i instantly thought of the AirTag tech as well but now that you put it that way;
i think the monitor might help with the VR/AR line up Apple is working on.
Lots of companies use external cameras to help hand, leg & body tracking.
Hololive girls use motion-tracking via webcams & sometimes iPhones to control their Avatar.
and if I get a little more tin-foil hatty:
It might be called the "Studio" , not for OUR studio but for Apple's "Studio".
Just think of the day the first iPhone came out & the app store is kinda empty.
Only those with an Apple computer could create apps.
The studio line up will prob be geared to create new Apps for their VR/AR platform more effectively.
Is this thing an LG like previous iMac and Apple Displays or is it completely proprietary?
Can it render images on screen without the A13? Can one place the logic board of an iMac or Mac mini or even MacBook Pro in here and get a new 27-inch iMac?
How did the contests not know the look of the new iMacs, “pretty sure this bright blue one looks like an iMac”.
What's a computer?
This thing splits my opinion. In general i prefer an internal psu but i dont think i would pick that over a replaceable cable. it feels like it chose the worse of both options. The larger frame of an integral psu with the length restrictions and cost of replacement that come with a brick.
the cable can be removed it is replaceable.
the fact is an internal psu with the cooling etc its getting is much more likly to live a long life than an external brick that will just get hot, drop of desk while hot etc.
Apple: "We spent a ridiculous amount of R&D to place the Power supply inside the Monitor!"
Everyone else: "...." *power brick* "....yeah."
the imac is literally blue, why did none of them see that
scripted 😂
I wonder why most didn't notice iMac's blue colored chasis. Apple displays don't have colored chasis.
It looks very neat and organized on the inside. That, of course, has its price.
It looks really Pleasing!
Form before function...
Once it breaks you're doomed to overpriced Apple support, because none other repair-shop can get the proprietary parts.
Almost all apple products in the last 10 years are more beautiful inside than outside
@@trancenut81 The outside of the Studio Display also looks beautiful in my opinion. An aluminum unibody and minimalist design.
@@timmy7201 apple stuff doesnt break, really.
cool, its a phone with 27" lcd panel, Apps are missing and is there a WLAN modul? this is no computer Monitor! I miss the lightning connector and the specs of RAM and SSD! I think the price is okay if I can put Apps and a browser on it.the next will have M1
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I am not sure but I think you guys uses the rong screw driver😅 It looks like u are using a Torx for a different kind of screw that looks a like but is more rounded. This isn't the word thing you could do but it increases the chance of stripping the screw.
The intro - "I guess the qualifications to work at ifixit are very low..."
I cannot find teardown iMac 7 GPU (two ports) is there any?