Gary Neville & Jamie Carragher Train to be Linesmen! | The Referees Part 2
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Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher go head to head in the official assistant referee offside test! Will they flag offside goals accurately?
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you can obviously tell the linesmen were loving having the tables turned on the defenders who regularly curse at them about their decisions LMAO
Especially by two top level defenders, who often complained lol
You seem to have summarised and understood the whole point of the video
Lies again? Referee slow
Being a linesmen is rough.. I knew found respect for how hard it must be while a crowd of 50,000 are telling you you're shit.
yeah feel bad for them . If they make one mistake , everyone will hate him . People had no idea how hard it is to become a reff/linesman .
but its also their job . they get paid for that .
Not going to lie, getting to the right position all the time when having to run half the field... They get a line on this and it still is very tough... I'm going to have a hard time giving them too much crap now on these calls...
Nick Tenney I’m a referee myself and I have also been a linesman (you learn both in the course). Im 16 and have been refereeing for a year and a half. The running down the line isn’t the hard bit. All you do is follow the last defender. The hardest bit is trying to decide within a couple of seconds if the player is offside or not. And to stick with your decision. And also to try and watch the ball and the attacker at the same time
X_Online for. Poo
I tried this on a Sunday league and it was hell on earth it’s so hard the pros don’t get enough credit
seems really hard i've changed my view on linesmen
younes boss i
And with the pressure of being infront of thousands of fans.. not easy
...how did you only just realise how difficult the job is? Have you not watched football before?
PMS FC You don't have to stare at the linesman to realize how close some decisions are.
PMS FC But that was your excuse for not realizing how difficult of a job it was, despite having watched football before.
we dont give refs enough credit tbh
they get payed to do a job. They dont deserve credit just less stick
true but we still give players credit even though they get paid to do a job. They get way too much hate
Why shouldn't they deserve credit? When a ref plays a great advantage which leads to a goal when he could have blown up for a free kick, that doesn't deserve credit?
Pay them the same at the players, than you can give them stick.
Connor Yup, Mike Dean deserves loads of credit tbh.
Perhaps it might be an idea to send the captain of every team to one of these courses.
Carl T I know this is a late reply but that’s a brilliant idea. Could send the managers as well as they like to complain
OH stop it you softies
Good idea then get each linesman to go and train with a premier league team and see how they get on at that
@@fredearlam7594 hold my beer i'll go train with them and whilst i'm there teach them all how to play football useless overpaid gits.
They do it on purpose. It's part of the game to influence refs.
Keep in mind that these are easy conditions for a wide variety of reasons:
1) There is only one striker and one defender and Garry & Carry know that only those two are relevant. In a real game it can get much more complicated with multiple defenders and attackers fighting for positioning - and good luck keeping track of who was passively offside and then becomes actively involved seconds later.
2) Garry & Carry have to only look out for offside and are not distracted by other possible decisions that a linesman has to routinely make.
3) They know the small time window when the pass is coming in.
4) They know at which height the defenders will approximately cross and thus can adjust their positioning beforehand.
5) They don't have to run up and down the entire side line all the time.
6) Their view is completely unobstructed.
Great points. They can also hear when the ball is being kicked which wouldn’t be easy in a noisy stadium
So what. They do this for a living. They train multiple times a week. Of course it's hard for Carra and Neville, who's never done it before, but don't make up excuses for the pro refs, just because they are shite. Most of your points aren't even valid.
mate this whole thing is just like pro gaming. They do nothing else all day long to become extremely good but there will always be a situation where you get lost and make a mistake. Being a ref is one of the hardest things to do
Actually this is harder than most of the situations in the real game because normally defenders and strikes are running to a same direction, whereas here the players are running against each other and it’s very hard to say when the defender has passed the striker also considering the ball‘s location/has it already been passed in the exact moment. Also normally defender tries to stay between the striker and the goal and not just pass him. I know this for a fact because I‘m a ref and I’ve tried this myself, still you made very good points:)
@@olivierkepo this is why I've always said they should have some kind of mic in the ball so they can hear it being kicked
Did anyone else noticed mike dean and just laughed ?
Bring back Arshavin he needed a bigger part! He’s bloody hilarious that man
Hitc sport lol
Ryan Sheehan he’s bloody annoying that man.
Yes 😂😂😂
Why Mike Dine hate chelsea
All the previous comments have been flagged offside by carragher
Lol
After this I've changed my perspective on linesman and refs... players can rest for a bit but the officials can't. 90 minute concentration. A lot harder than I thought
Are you serious? The refs don't run with the pace players do and the one linesman can rest when the attack is on the different side of the pitch, vise versa. Do you even know football?
KASPER RDS do you even know refereeing? Refs have to run as fast as the players to keep up with the game. It might seem like a easy job but trust me, to be a good ref you have to be in fit. Refs run on average 11.6km in a game (assistants 6,5km) whereas a professional football player runs in a premier league match about 10.8km
@@kasperrds6968 Super late but as linesmen your also watching, not just resting. You still calling outs for your side of the field, watching play for anything the ref missed. Believe me, nothing about it is easy.
@@kasperrds6968 we make 245 decisions a game. A highly involved player makes about 70-80 touches in a game, about 10-15 of which are mistakes.
Linesmen have a tough job, they probably don't get enough credit because they probably get about 90% of decisions correct. But let's be honest come the 1st the game of the season, the first decision they get wrong I'm gonna be screaming obscenities at them and threatening to set fire to their house when they're asleep. It's football.
It's not football without screaming @ the officials over decisions that go against u.
Thats the beautiful thing about football. You can be completely irrational 😂
Reminds me of south park's "it's a jersey thing"
@@prideofmanny2981 😂
Why are all these referees bald? Must be a stressful job!
Lol
The woman isn’t
@@Tom-cc6eq thanks for clarifying
@@harevstortoise no problem!
5:58 all the best referees of PL
Anthony taylor is a knobhead
Linesman have always impressed me. It's so so hard to get it correct and most of the time they do get it right, even when it's cm precision
I wanna try it in person cuz usually I’m the first to say “no it’s clearly on/off” and I’m usually right. From the tele though of course but yeah
At the end when the main referee was explaining his theory to them, he's absolutely right. At best, human reaction time will have a minimum of 0.1/0.2 seconds of delay. In that time, the quickest athletes will have traveled close to 1 or 2 meters further forward. So if he looks 1 or 2 meters offside, he's probably onside due to the delay of reaction time and human error.
2:49 I just come here when I'm sad to hear Carra's Elmo laugh
It still amazes me how much chemistry Gary & Jamie have, great show!
I used to be a ref and assistant ref for local youth football, and damn is it hard. Forget the players, I don't care if you're the defender tasked with shutting down Messi, the referee has the hardest job on the pitch.
For real, this is actualy hard...
I did my referee license here in Germany at age 14 and I was once a linesman at a youth match on a smaller playing field. It was the toughest job I ever did and I'm not joking. Since then I never questioned a decision a ref or a linesmen had to make.
Shows like this can actually help remind many fans that refs are just human beings who have to learn their trade and can from time to time make mistakes. Plus most of them are just extremely nice relatable lads
they be perfect linesmen😂😂
its easy for us to say "Oh That Was Off" when we're in front of the tv screen !! Refs r always there to do their best ...i know that sometimes it doesnt happen...but now with VAR, lets just hope these situations r cut to a minimum !! During the Confederations Cup...VAR took way too long !! Sometimes, some decisions can be made by the VAR instead of asking the ref walk all the way to the monitor, watch the incident, n make a decision !! This can easily take 3mins off the clock !!
LeftKing But it's added back in stoppage time so no big deal
Football Center ~ Yes n No ~ i watched a couple of Confederations Cup games...n the whole process was a bit all over the place !! They need to make it more effective ~ The Refs cant be getting an Alert 30sec after the incident ~ then +30s for listening to the alert ~ then 15s to run to the monitor ~ then 30s to watch the incident ~ then make a decision ~ then another 30s goin back to the pitch to correct wtv decision was made !! This amounted to an average of 2-3min per incident ...n it occured at least Twice in the games i watched !! Stoppage times were still 3-5min at then end ...when it shud hv been 8min !?! its not realistic !! Either stop the clock when theres an incident or everything must be done in 1minute max, which would require the VARs to make some decisions themselves !!
LeftKing will there be VAR next season in PL?
That's why there are proposals to stop the clock during things like that, and change the match time to 60 minutes
They should just have an "over ref" to make calls on the VAR and tell the ref in his earpiece. Easy. No more than 5-15 secs.
Such good insight, loving this series of videos!
Being a referee is a hard job even when the ref is right but fans are still put pressure on you
Wow my respect for refs has increased a lot. Looks really tough at such a fast pace
This is fantastic!! To see the real life of a ref from ex-players point of view shows just how hard it really is.
That little bit of info on the end- discussing how a meter away looks vs is was very helpful tidbit for those of us who do this.
refereeing is a tough job. Respect. Split seconds to decide.
I won't blame lineman on slightly wrong decision from now on. 😅😅
Fantastic insight, thanks to soccer am the officials and carra and nev for putting this on the YT
More of these, please
can they do this again to remind us how hard the linesman job is? maybe they can bring micah richards along as well
0:41 hey it's Mike Dean 😂
Bobby Madley ripping them for bad decisions but he's probably the worst match official I've seen in years😂😂
Jack Allison apart from the fact that isn't madley
Cameroni123 ™ nor in the crowd behind them
Cameroni123 ™ o b
You can't even identify who the fuck Bobby Madley is and yet you know what makes a good match official?
Dustin Edwards madley is there in the crowd at the back whispering in the other fellas ear
Gives a new appreciation for how tough their job is!
@2:50 bunch of ladies
Debanjan Ghosh 😂😂😂😂😂
Arre Bhai Bhai😂😂
Fascinating really, for the stick they get but how difficult it really is.
These guys are better than VAR
Could the filming of the replays be any worse! The camera man doesn't seem to realise that you need to see the point at which the ball is played through to judge offside!
1:10 "he s panicking once you get one wrong you're done" haha true words
Anyone else watched it at 0.25 speed for GNevs last one 😬
Great series, really good insight into the minds of the refs and seeing what they go through.
This just makes me want video refereeing more, look how tough it is, especially in at premier league level
This aged like milk lol
This is great banter
As a life long fan Iv given lineo's and refs a lot of stick over the yrs but this is an excellent video to see just how hard it is to get tight decisions right with the naked eye.
What people forget is that the ball kicker and the potentially offside player are often not in the assistants field of vision together. Angles can help but you have to be looking across the line so need to use sound to indicate when the ball was kicked. Lining is much harder than PROPER assistant role.
when you see a drill like this you realise how hard it is, wow!
I tried to be a linesman once in a nothing game and that was hard to judge offside. Tough job for sure making those calls.
Very very nice insight.
To hear a ref chant "You don't know what your doing!" hahahaaha
Yes, they can be tough and that's exactly why video replays should be brought into the game.
Why are all the comments from the last few days
They made it look more difficult, because the defender moves in the opposite direction. However, most of the times, the decision has to be made when the defenders keep hold of their position until the attacker makes a run that they follow afterwards (so, movement in the same direction), or at set pieces, that again, both teams move in the same direction
This challenge should've included a keeper so the striker can have a shot that way if he scores or misses you can fully understand the pressure of a linesman.
Just proves the need for VAR for certain calls.
It looks a genuine hard job. They do deserve more credit lol
This is the hardest job in football
my respect for linesmen and referees has increased dramatically, ggs to them
i think more players/ex pros should try this to do what refs and lineman do so they understand how difficult it is.
Just so you know, Mike Mullarkey was Finals Assisstant ref at FIFA WC 2010.
Good to see Peter Bosz training Neville and Carragher and showing them what it's like to be a linesman..
Only thing he's good for..
Thank goodness for VAR
This two should have a tv show
That bit about them giving onside if it looks slightly offside is probably because of human reflexes and processing speed. You can only register the ball being kicked, then the player running past with a slight bit of delay. The speed the players are moving at is enough that the distance they appear to move is longer than reality.
The best duos in football
I FEEL TRAINING AND REFRESHER COURSES WE IMPROVE THEM
Is that daylight rule still on? Hahahaha love carra
These two should have a sitcom of their own
Why can't we have a camera replay similar to the one in this video. The camera can follow the linesman and be used to help with looking at offsides
this was really cool to see ..... i wish we could get a live feed of the conversations between the officials during a match.
bit of revenge for the linesman!
This kind of thing is tough!
The referee uniform for grade 8 and 7 referees is so much like dang
I ran the line for a Sunday league team today, good fun but need to have max concentration and block out the crowd, coaches etc
0:42 that legendary shot !
What ref has that weird manic laugh lol
Your mum I think
@@akmedia8206 good one?
Been a professional boxing judge for years now, it’s incredibly difficult. As a longtime futbol fan.... I’ve always said that being a linesman’s got to be one of the hardest, if not the hardest job in sports officiating.
Samuel Munoz I’m a football referee myself and am a linesman too (you learn both in the course). And I have to be honest. I find being the referee more difficult than the linesman. And I’ve only been doing it for 1 and a half years so I’m not really experienced
Jamspell Oh I wouldn’t doubt that. I’m sure they’re both incredibly difficult, a referee especially with having your head on a swivel constantly, positioning and the speed of the game multiplies. Lucky for me, I’m sitting stationary and it’s in a fairly small ring. I just remember after about the 7th/8th round, I’m absolutely mentally exhausted from the speed concentration mixed in with ALL the noise from the crowd. Good on ya, keep up the good work 👍🏽. Lol it’s nice having someone understand what we do.
A lot harder than we all think
Fair play to the linesmen, it is difficult and for 90 mins too!
The legend Atkinson!
Lol I got this recommended in 2020 (end of July)
I might get gary neville to manage my games no offside 😂 😂
really the TV channels should show the real time replay from side on as well as slow-mo
6:15 The fastest players sprint flat out at >30kph. So an average defender closing speed with an average attacker accelerating into a run might be 30kph. 30kph is 8.3 meters per second so the attacker will separate from the defender by a meter in 0.12 seconds. Sound travels 344 meters per second, so in 0.12 seconds the sound of the ball being kicked would travel 41.28 meters, or just about the width of a soccer pitch. These are all rough numbers but what I'm wondering is if these referees are using the sound of the ball kick, because by the time that sound arrives on a marginal decision they could look offside by a small amount, and that would explain the phenomenon of that 1 meter compensation (even for experienced referees) the referee describes here.
Nice!
Having watched this, it seems like a nightmare job.
Hard to give them stick sometimes because its such a difficult job but they are paid to make the right decisions.
there not superhuman no amount of money will make them get every decision right
I hope my local team have indoor training ground . Looks great .
EXCELLENT!
I've been a linesman for my brothers sunday league team and I tell u what it is bloody hard and I was 17-18 years old then
5:56 THE BOYS ♥️
Look at Carra at 4:37
Jamie acts like Jim Carey when he raises the flag
Refs were probably thrilled these two former players came and did this, it shows just how challenging it is getting offside calls right. Much respect refs.
Carra definitely had a heavy night
they use the force
not shouting at a linesman again. this is some elite stuff
Good idea!
Sian Massey 😍
this gotta be the hardest job in the world!