I FOUND THE BEST PPF AND ITS NOT XPEL
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- What is the best Paint protection film? Many call it PPF or clear bra or stone guard. Most people ask for XPEL by name... but is something on the market better? Lets compare Stek Dyno shield to XPEL Ultimate Plus
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As a fellow installer that is very much like yourself in terms of desiring the best products available I honestly can't thank you enough for doing stuff like this. We are constantly fixing cars done by other local shops that use xpel, I am so glad someone else is happy to call them out. The automotive detailing & customization industry really does need better quality control and some type of social regulations to call shops and companies out on this stuff. Thank you!
You should head over to my Instagram. I have a story on dealership PPF... It was pretty bad lol.
thanks for bringing this up. very rare to see channel on TH-cam dare to name brand names and do a comparison. orange peel texture from PPF is also my biggest gripe when it comes to PPF. so glad I found this video
I do my best to make videos I think are important to talk about! This felt very important. In my opinion this video upset some people at Xpel. I'd like to make a video about what happened honestly. Because it's pretty shocking.
Thank you for being thorough and helping people make informed decisions!
My pleasure 🙂
I'm not usually one to watch vid's of peeps talking for 25 minutes but I must say, you got that magic mind set!
I hope you enjoy the journey of wrap/protection films. Keep up the great work Champ!
Thanks for continuing to check out Status Detail Tyrone 🙂
I've definitely had a lot of fun so far learning. One of my first solo jobs was a lotus Evora GT roof and it was very difficult and took three tries. I was kind of defeated afterwards cuz I wanted it to be perfect and it just wasn't so we ended up not wrapping the roof. Scheduled him back in later on for fall maintenance and having my installer help me do it.
But I later found out from a very experienced installer who tried to do that same roof recently that it's incredibly difficult because it's kind of shaped like a basketball with a big divot in the center. So at least now I know one of my first solo jobs was probably extremely difficult thing to try. So getting so close hopefully means I actually don't suck and then I may be kind of good for a beginner lol.
If you want more status check out some of the hypercar detailing videos! I actually just made a playlist for that I'm at home page today so it's easier to find.
Enjoy 👍🙂
Passionate & bold! I almost cried. Subscribed!
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Looking forward to your new adventure installing this stuff! Great video and thoughts as well👍.
Me too! Truly excited for something that's not my normal process. It will be a true challenge to learn. Like learning a language. Once you understand it you can create endless sentences. Once ppf fully clicks I should be able to wrap any car with the fundamentals I Know. Should be fun. Or horrible... Who knows lol.
We’ll be here to support you the entire way! This is Daniel!
Hey Daniel! Looking forward to getting some Stek on some hypercars and super cars 👍🙂
I wish you were based in LA! Great video. Finding someone as passionate about their work as you is hard and I truly appreciate the pride you have in what you do.
Thank you !
I have multiple cars being shipped from out of state to us for details! Lmk if you ever want to send a car or friend our way 🙂🙂
@@STATUSDETAIL Not going to make financial sense for my new BMW i4 but I could see someone doing that for a car in the mid hundred thousands! By the way, how do you feel about Xpel XR and XR+ tint? Do you have a favorite instead of those popular options?
@@slazaruk totally understand. Agreed as well. Everything coming is over 100k.
In my opinion all tint is about the same as long as your buying a reputable brand and buying the highest tier of that Brand.
We use Llumar and the best they offer is ceramic IRX. I'm sure Xpel tint is good and I'm sure Stek makes nice tint too. I'd probably use stek tint but my installer has used Llumar for a very long time and they specialize in tint. So I trust there choice.
Tint is basically about heat rejection. So if your buying the best tint from whatever brand your basically buying really high heat rejection.
Thank you for posting such honest content. I wish I could bring my car to you. I am getting grief from xpel only ‘detailers’ about the sub par quality of stek. No surprise there. It’s great to see you still stand by stek as your PPF of choice. Keep up the great content. We humble consumers really appreciate it!
Thanks for watching!
I have seen and used Stek. Xpel and suntek. I believe it's not even close. I have seen many other films and feel the same way.
The stek customer service I have received is nothing short of totally incredible too.
What quality issues did the Xpel installers mention in regards to Stek?
. We have literally never had an issue with any of the roles. We once or twice had some issues that we thought were issues in the role but it turned out it had nothing to do with material and everything to do with us. That's been fixed and the issues we had been seeing are totally resolved.
According to most installers I have spoken to, xpel ultimate is more durable than EVERY other film on the market. They have no exact issues they can lay claim to, they just keep telling me that xpel is a superior product and stek is economy. Of course I’m not buying any of their pressure tactics. The hard sell makes me run a mile. Thankfully I have found a local installer who shares your view. He has installed all of the other brands and now chooses to work exclusively with stek. For me, it comes down to trust in the professional you’re hiring that they know their sh*t. If they have only ever worked with xpel, how can they possibly have all the facts?
@@chwearn most Xpel installers have no facts to back up why it's better.
Most Stek installers have fscts why it's better. They dont just feel that way.
That alone should make most realize what they want on there car
Exactly! Mine is currently at the shop. I can’t wait to see how the stek looks on.
@@chwearn From the very few videos on the topic I've found, they're right. STEK isn't the most durable--but it's always in the top 3. And guess what? XPEL isn't. What matters to me is that it's the most optically clear. Good durability is good enough. What's the point of protecting the paint if you're significantly sacrificing how it looks to do so?
I’m new on the business… I am researching about the film products. This video make my decision easier. I will start using Dyno on my first customers and from there on! Thanks for this Vid
My pleasure. Glad it helped. Not sure what region your in. Our rep is Daniel. He has been wonderful. I think depending on your area you may have a different regional guy.
this is a very good video presentation for us consumers to better understand the various types of PPF in the market and each brand's limitations. I am from Singapore and i heard so many brands of PPF, Stek, Xpel, Neon, UPPF just to name a few, and of course Xpel is the most marketable PPF everywhere, but like what you said, Xpel is targeting the rich, and normally, the rich wouldn't care the nitty gritty details before they make the purchase. I am not that guy. I'm glad I didn't get Xpel for my car, and from this video it justified my decision making of not using Xpel.
Glad you found the video helpful!
Thanks for your reply. I am so glad I found your channel. You are an "Old Sout".....that's good. By that, I mean you are a believer in old school pride in what you do! That can't be bought! I don't think it can be taught, either! You're born with it. I love my guy here in St. Louis. However, if he ever leaves STL, I'll head up to see you in Chicago! Don't let the "haters" discourage you ever. Those guys have nothing better to do!!! Good luck!
Thanks Bob! And thank you for watching my videos and being a part of the channel! I'm looking forward to seeing you around the channel and in the comments! Be sure to check out my Instagram too and feel free to dm me with questions there too👍🙂
I definitely have a lot of passion for this. Check out the 993 barn find and Bugatti detail videos. Also the "the S$!t that matters" video. I think you will enjoy them 🙂
Great video sir!
I had my entire vehicle done with STEK Dynoshield. 2021 Tesla Model Y bulk installation. Afterwards I ceramic coated the car in GTECHNIQ Halo. It looks incredible. I tell everyone who will listen about this film. I wish you much success.
Awesome to hear. For future maintenance you can try gtechniq exo too. Exo is designed to bond to a base coat ceramic.
Because dyno has a ceramic later on it already exo dies a great job bonding to it!
@@STATUSDETAIL
I have a bottle on deck
I will add it later this year.
Thanks!
Is it necessary to ceramic coat it after?
@@tron1007r I don't have enough long term experience with the OEM built in ceramic to safely say.
Our ceramic does bond to it well and simply is peace of mind and we bs j it with warranty.
Most ppf customer do full front. The difference in not ceramic coating the front is huge. $300 or so? Better to uniformly cost it l in one product.
Just my opinion tho
How did you apply it? Using the the buffering machine? Or by hand with a a pad
Great vid, first time hearing about Stek. Most forums claim Xpel ultimate and Suntek Reaction has been the best ppf
Glad you found the channel! Suntek Orange peel is very similar to Xpel.
Very impressed with this video and considering adding PPF installs to expanding my business. A year later what is your thoughts on STEK PPF ??
I should have done it sooner. STEK is incredible 👍👍👍
I'm enjoying this hyper-detailed review.
Thanks for checking out the channel! I see your watching multiple videos 🙂
Be sure to check out the GT4RS video and GT3 Touring videos. Those have great PPF information as well!
@@STATUSDETAIL Will be watching those next! Thank you.
From this video, i just got my Lexus Dyno Stealth film coated. Thank you!
Enjoy 👍
I will find out soon enough ! Thank you brother
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So glad I found you
So glad you found us 🙂🙂
Great info thanks 👍
Happy I can help
Thanks for this great comparison. Please could you also do a comparison of Stek vs Suntek?
I'll save you the time. Stek is considerably more clear and less orange peel. Like clear as day. Suntek glue is also much less strong. Pros and cons to that last one
Are we talking about SunTek Reaction or their old films?
@@rodstawaa I think Aztec is better than everything that I've ever seen.
Have not installed reaction. I believe I have installed the normal suntek line tho.
Ove got xpel installed now 2 years now and very satisfied so far
Glad to hear it. Installer is important!
Just like he said in the video, because you didn't know any better 😉
Wonderful. Thank You So Much
Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Hey! Have you tried GSWF Platinum?
As for XPEL, I knew something was up with them, how come every basic youtuber is showing their product and saying it's the best. Now I know that it's due to their marketing. Appreciate this video and the info contained within.
Never heard of that particular brand you mentioned.
@@STATUSDETAIL Search it up and let me know what you think. I've used their self-heal one. It's pretty durable.
The name GSWF stands for global supplier of window film. So, that may have to do something with the quality of their product.
I'm looking for a matte PPF and a ceramic tint, shortlisted 3M, Xpel and STEK. This video really helped me finalize the PPF, definitely going for STEK Dyno matt. But I'm still confused b/w STEK Nex and Xpel Prime XR plus, do you recommend Xpel clear nano ceramic tint over STEK?
I believe all tint is roughly the same when you pick top level of each respective brand.
I am not a tint expert. My installer uses Llumar if your interested. I believe getting a amazing installer is more important than the 5% difference between the better brand.
I have seen so many bad tint jobs lol. I know because we rip them out a few days after they went in and fix that shops work. Doesn't matter what they had before.
PPF is actually similar. I just have a speciality for all things paint. So getting Stek plus a top notch install is obviously two birds one stone
In the future I hope to give more information on tint quality.
I hope that helps.
@@STATUSDETAIL Thanks man, again amazing work with the details in the video. Really helped me.
Looking forward to getting ppf on the front of my car. My front bumpers have been destroyed by rocks. I had my current car’s front bumper repainted last year and it already has a few chips
I can highly recommend Stek ppf 🙂
@@STATUSDETAIL I’ll have to reach out when I order my next car then. How well does the ceramic coat protect vs dust (obv washing is still a must). I’m currently downtown near the L combined with regular dust drives me absolutely nuts and I’m sure that dust is severely contaminating my paint
My local installer put Stek on my headlights and Suntek on the front 1/3 of my Tacoma. I to was super impressed with the hydrophobic nature of the film. But now about 2 years in it has lost some of the hydrophobic properties. I was going to follow some of the processes in your other videos for adding a proper ceramic coating but quite clearly the one I have applied to both the painted and ppf parts of my truck are no longer sheeting water like they used to. The PPF feels smooth still but at this point would you recommend cleaning the PPF surface with Gyeon Prep before adding a true ceramic like Gtechniq Crystal Serum or would a clay bar be necessary first. I'm a little hesitant to clay film.
I don't trust Stek or any ppf with built in ceramic to last. That's why we ceramic over it every time.
So you confirm what I already known lol
CSL is great.
Clay can help. A good soap like carpro lift or gyeon foam can help. Gyeon restart soap can help too potentially.
If none of that works. Then gyeon prep and coat it CSL and exo.
To clarify clay should be only used if surface is rough. If it's smooth you really shouldn't need to.
I'd rather have you do a light polish with something like Carpro reflect. Optional but good idea.
@@STATUSDETAIL thanks so much for the tips. Love your videos. I used to detail at a Porsche dealership when I was going to college and the 993 was brand new. The red TT you did brought back some fond memories.
@@aaronlabeau that's awesome! Sounds like a cool time to be working at a Porsche dealership! Legendary cars.
My entire 2022 M4 Competition xDrive is wrapped in STek DynoShield. The PPF was done by a detail shop, in my local Sacramento area. They remove bumpers, door handles, rear thumbnail spoiler, side skirts, roof rails, and windshield trim. The STek is then bulk installed and everything is tucked under the trim. Doors were wrapped in one piece, and rolled around the back side of the door. Door handle PPFd, and reinstalled. Trunk PPFd in one piece, spoiler wrapped, and reinstalled over the PPF. No seams are visible from the outside of the car. Even the black window trim is PPFd. The car was also Ceramic coated with CQ Finest Reserve. Wheels removed, CCB calipers coated, really make the gold calipers pop. The wheels were also polished, and coated. Front windshield was also wrapped in STek DynoFlex. I went and watched the Urus video, and that's just a product of a cookie cutter PPF. I have 11,000 miles on mine, and it looks like it did the day it was installed. Full PPF, so I don't have to mess with swirls.
My opinion on PPF has changed a lot since I've discovered Stek. Sounds like you're a true believer as well and it sounds like the detail shop that did your car did a fantastic job 👍🙂
Do you have any pic to show will be great help. Thank you in advance.
How much was the job?
@@dealership_life $8,000
Thanks for letting everyone know what it actually costs to do the job right🍺🍺
Hey thanks for the vid. Does applying CSL/ExoV5 on a new STEK install work? My installer told me the hydrophobic tendencies of the film will reject a ceramic coating & suggested waiting 6-9 months, doing a light polish on the film & then installing CSL/ExoV5
What your installer told you is completely incorrect. we install basically immediately on Stek film. Including on my personal car that has been ridiculously glossy, hydrophobic and. Self cleaning. It's so easy to wash as well. I'm sure not every ceramic coating will play nice. But you gtechniq coatings definitely work incredibly well 👍👍👍
Awesome vid dude. I absolutely dislike the whole politics around Xpel, who and what to sell the products to. Their areas/territory managers are not helpful and lazy! Stupid threshold price increases just make it easy go the Stek way. Thanks for the info!
Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
Good real info I am a Stek Dealer installer shop as well and my opinion STEK is the best as well
Thanks for watching! Stek has been great so far 🙂
Hi great video! I Im new to this new PPF world as a consumer. I have a 2023 frozen grey metallic BMW in matte color on order and want to do a full frontal. But I don’t want to have the car look different front PPF - and I’m curious if ppf will change the matte color and finish. I’m curious how the matte version of Stek DynoMatte compares to Xpel Stealth on a matte colored vehicle?
You will definitely want a matte PPF
Dynomatte Will definitely be my choice if you were to do it with me
And it will literally not alter the appearance at all.
I'm factory mat cars it's the only situation that I actually recommend full body PPf.
If a bird poops on your car for example and you don't get it in time it will etch the paint and basically be impossible to fix and would require a repaint and because of situations like that it's nice having PPF. On a gloss car a situation like this can always be polished and fixed
We recently had a G wagon have really bad hard water from a bridge that was leaking onto it and basically caused a repaint issue because it was Matte
If it's a car you drive only on the weekends and on sunny days then it wouldn't worry too much If it's your daily driver and you're going to put 10,000 miles on it and keep it for 5 years you might want to do full body
@@STATUSDETAIL yea I trade my cars in frequently like every 2-3 years and garage kept. my 2020 GLS580 had 13,000 miles! Lol so I’m
Just gonna do full front and ceramic coat entire thing :) I just wanted to know if STEK DynoMatte was superior in clarity compared to Xpel Stealth. Glad to hear DynoMatte won’t change the appearance! :) thank you !
Can you do a PPF comparison video of the XPEL Ultimate Fusion, STEK DYNO, Suntek Reaction, Kavaca Ceramic Coated, 3M Scotchgard Pro, LLUMAR Valor, and any other known PPF brands that I missed?
That would make an awesome video but it's definitely going to be hard to all the films.
I can do my best to kind of look into this but it would be a bit of an undertaking. Definitely a great video idea!
@@STATUSDETAIL Ok cool, then I'll suggest as a starter Suntek Reaction and Kavaca Ceramic Coated PPF. I always heard a lot of good things about SunTek and Reaction is their newest PPF and Kavaca Ceramic PPF by the company Ceramic Pro I hear is good too with top tier clarity, dont even notice there's film on the vehicle. You should try those out first and then just do one big video on all the Films I mentioned in the first comment.
@@lbnycity89 I'll see what I can do👍
I agree with what you say about Stek as a installer who took Stek class. Crazy thing xpel dap software is the best and most accurate for pre cuts. I have tried different softwares and none of em come close to dap software. I wish Stek had soft ware.
I'm sure as Stek gets bigger they will want to introduce software. That's a big business especially if you release to everyone but discount to Stek PPF installers.
I was thinking of flying out to Cali from nyc to take the stek class. What are your thoughts about the training class?
@@etdancer I didn't take that specific class. But any PPF class is highly recommend. Installing ppf is ridiculously hard if you want to do it correctly
Thank you for sharing🍺🍺
My pleasure 🙂
My main concern is protection from rock chips. What difference does ppf make and do you think stek is best for rocks?
It's slightly thicker. I'd say that means more protection even if it's minimal.
But big rocks go past everything. But PPF is your best bet to stop chips.
I had my black gloss door pillars done in Stek, they did a crap job. Now getting them done by a different place in Xpel. Your observation of the orange peel is a concern because I don’t like that look but I don’t have much choice because I’m not likely going back to the first place that did it.
The installer is a big part of the equation 👍
@@STATUSDETAIL Having watched your video and listening to everything you said, which I believe is true, and watching a couple of other videos comparing Stek and Xpel, I can see the better texture clarity of Stek and the far better fluid repellence. I decided not to get it re done in Xpel, I’ve arranged to get it re done in Stek, hopefully installed to a satisfactory standard this time.
It wasn’t installed as bad as I’ve indicated, they just made a few obvious errors and a bit of damage to the car. I will just get the 3 pieces I’m most unhappy with re done. The greater orange peel effect in Xpel is something I would not want on this gloss black surface. The orange peel of the Stek is about the most I would be happy with. Maybe on other colours a bit more texture would be ok, but not on gloss black at eye height.
Thanks for your video, it’s helped me 👍🏼
@@aussie8114 I'm glad it helped!
Im getting a ZLE PPFD and the hood and various other pieces have satin wrap or finish.
I went with XPEL ultimate plus… Should I have went with XPEL stealth ( a satin finish )?
Some say XPEL ultimate plus should be invisible and not change the look of the gloss or the satin. Some say you should match the satin film to the satin wrap.
What do you suggest?
You need stealth on satin and matte. If you put gloss PPF on satin or matte it will go full gloss
Stek does make matte PPF as well
What’s your opinion on IVIOS Kaizer PPF? It seems to come from the same factory as STEK…
Never heard of it.
what about Xpel Ultimate Fusion I hear good things about it because it has a ceramic coating on it?
That should bead water similar to Stek but I have a hard time believing the orange peel situation has been addressed.
I hate XPEL also. 10 years promoting them to customers for them to start changing me retail without warning because I didn't meet their 20k annual purchase requirement or some bull during COVID. Now I'm getting to try better films like Suntek and STEK! Right on about STEK
I'm sorry to hear you had issues with them. You wouldn't believe... Or maybe you would... The stuff that happened after I released this video.
But your story is one I have heard multiple times.
I'm glad you tried Stek. It's by far the best I have found.
My installer likes suntek. Primarily because if the adhesive and it's ability to go back for dirt with minimal work lines. I notable perk. But it's obviously got more orange peel than Stek. So everything has it's ups and downs.
great video
Thanks Varun 🙂
How much time do you like to allow for PPF to dry and cure before releasing the car to the customer? Some shops say a full day while others say 2 days.
I typically have a car for about 2 days after I finish the last piece of PPF which means other pieces have been on for 2 and 1/2 for 3 days depends how much film we applied
Do you have to change plotter depth from Xpel to stek bc of the cap sheet?
We do not plot.
It is my understanding you pull the cap off before plotting.
So since they don’t have a system that self plots. How does ppl that want the plotting do it with Stek?
Check out a company called core.
There are a few other options but I forgot the name.
A bit later, still find this review to hold true? Is Stek still better than Xpel?
Also any feedback on GYEONS ceramic?
Lastly - do STek offer precut templates?
STEK is. Still the best PPF by far in my opinion.
STEK can be plotted with various softwares for installer's to use.
Gtechniq ceramic is the best
Film design out of Fort Worth Texas is a real good data base for paint protection
Interesting! I'll look into it. I have heard a lot about core as well. In the future I will probably have a plotter to plot very specific things. It's still my opinion that in most cases balking is best. But I also believe in very specific situations plotting can be very crucial and helpful.
Nicely Done! Thank You. Question. STEK Dyno Shied versus SunTek Reaction? Which one do we choose?
Stek is my favorite so far but I have heard good things about suntek.
I have heard especially from suntek installers that switched to Stek that Stek will stretch better during install and that's nahes the install better and smoother. In situations that typically require a relief cut Stek will stretch into.
Both very good films, from a consumer standpoint, you will never notice the difference. Side by side reaction is more hydrophobic though, also more expensive, but from an installer standpoint, dynoshield it's easier to work with especially from the adhesive standpoint. Suntek is known for having weaker adhesive, while stek is know for having strong adhesive, meaning less edges or high tension areas lifting over time.
Where can I buy a bulk roll, so far ive only found stek on aliexpress and alibaba...
STEK can only be purchased from Stek directly. You need to be certified by any PPF company and show that information to buy film or get certified by Stek directly. They only want qualified installers to install it. That's how most of the big PPF companies handle buying PPF.
So I have stek booked in later next week.
I asked them about cutting software. They told me they use cutting software but not from stek. I don’t think this really matters but I wanted to make sure it won’t cause issues.
I also heard stek is easier to remove then XPEL, should the need for that arrive.
They probably use CORE. it is very good.
@@STATUSDETAIL ok good to know. Is it true stek is easier to remove then XPEL ?
@@SHODUUP not sure. It is all a big paint in the ass to remove in my opinion. If it has been on for many years. It's not fun to remove lol
Why ceramic coating is required additionally if wrapping with dyno stek which already has hydrophobic properties?
The built in ceramic is nice but I don't see it lasting 7 years like our dedicated ceramic does. I've already witnessed on my personal car the stek hydrophobics take a bit of a beating in high wear lower rocker areas. As soon as I got Stek I put a piece on my car to test. My thoughts are correct.
It's great it's hydrophobic. It's great for anyone without ceramic budget because they do get built in ceramic.
But if you want it done correctly and the status way or the way id do my car.... You put the proper ceramic over Stek.
@@STATUSDETAIL which ceramic coat u recommend on top of stek color ppf ?
@@nathpuneet gtechniq ceramic has worked really really well! Some ceramic doesn't like to stick to the stek ceramic. But csl goes on like a dream. Exo is formulated to bond to a existing ceramic base coat. So it bonds to CSL great but it would also work great as a stand alone bonding to the base Stek. Ideally you always want CSL then exo if budget permits.
There is no ceramic coating that’s going to last 7 years on a daily without being topped regularly
Did you have to fly out to STEK to get trained and certified or do they offer a thing like xpel where you can have a trainer come to your shop to train you? We're weighing options between the two.
Also is there someone from STEK you would recommend us to get in touch with? I'm in north Florida.
We had a unique situation that allowed access to Stek pretty seamlessly.
My general understanding in non unique situations is if you take a ppf training class and can present some docs youd be good to go. The class would need to be from a semi reputable training environment/teacher. Like you need a certification from that class.
So you can technically do it locally if you have a class like that available. If you already have paperwork like this your basically good to go.
Stek does offer training but I forget the location.
The rep for my Chicago area is Daniel. But it's going to be different for Florida.
This is the phone number and email on the website. I think either one will get you to a rep in your area!
(425) 869-4006
info@stek-usa.com
I hope that's helpful 🙂👍
Just wanted to chime in. I'm going on 2 years as a stek certified installer and I believe the only training is done in their headquarters up in Seattle. I recommend this training to everyone that's interested, it was the best training I have ever done in 3 days. From the start it's hands on training. I came out feeling like a professional in 3 days from not nothing much.
@@joserboi awesome! Thanks for the information 🙂🙂👍👍
If you go with xpel, be prepared to sell your soul to them, as you will never be able to offer any other products to your customers outside the xpel lineup.
Any thoughts on Avery Dennison PPF ? 👀
Not really lol
Is it also better than the new version of expel which is ultimate fusion?
In my opinion yes. That still has crazy orange peel and other issues. They have also done weird things with warranty.
What I heard (not saying it's true) is Stek-treated panels blend in better with the panels that have no PPF. For example you have PPF on the hood but not the fenders.
On the other hand, Xpel Ultimate Plus is supposed to eliminate the orange peel issue.
I'm not sure what you mean by Xpel ultimate plus eliminates orange peel issue.
Xpel In my opinion has the worst orange peel of any professional legitimate PPF.
Stek is so clear you can't tell when a panel has ppf or not. On some cars it's actually improving the orange peel lol.
In my most recent video I actually show the difference between a panel with and without Stek. I edited the video a couple weeks after I filmed it and I actually thought the panel initially had PPF on it but that was actually the panel that didn't have it.
Stek is super legit
@@STATUSDETAIL Glad I mentioned it. I have a choice between two different installers here. One does Xpel, the other Stek. Both installers are top rated on Yelp. Thanks.
Have you tested the Gyeon PPF? I’d be interested in your opinion if so. I have 2 choices when it comes to PPF close to me. It’s either Gyeon or XPEL. The Gyeon has a ceramic coating on the film apparently however they can’t extend the pattern at all whereas the XPEL can be. Any help appreciated.
Gyeon PPF is not available in America. I have it from a reliable source so I definitely cannot name that stek PPF is considerably better than Gyeon. You know my thoughts and opinions on xpel if you've watched this video and watch my other videos.
The most important factor is getting a really good installer because the worst film being installed by the best installer will look the best in terms of edges and longevity of everything looking nice. The Sweet spot is finding a great installer who also uses a great film. If you can't find a great film I would lean towards finding your best installer. So gyeon or xpel won't matter. Especially if one of the installers has 15 years under his belt and one has two for example. But even a guy who has 15 years could be doing it the fast cheap easy way and the guy with two years experience could be really pushing the bar to do amazing stuff. So probably stop by the shops take a look at what the work looks like and decide for yourself
@@STATUSDETAIL It’s a bit of a minefield to be honest. I will take your advice and go on and have a look. The Gyeon installer said they can’t extend the PPF so there will be a 2mm or so line in places. The XPEL did say he would extend if needed to tuck in.
@@harshhell4185 it can be hard to find a good place. Don't be afraid to look an hour away or even further if it means you get a good installation that will last many years
Been using both film for yrs. Xpel holds better and Stek is better on the gloss level and flattening paint job. Hydropobicity on Stek is determined depending on the cars is situated but wouldnt last very long liek 6months max but at least it does come with it. Both need extra ceramic coating on top of ppf for preventing self-healing failure and maintaining overall gloss level, look and feel. Yellowing is happening on any film however, it is really parking condition dependant, just avoid the UV and watermarks etc. I prefer Stek shield for overall look and finish. Great video btw.
Agree with a lot of what you said. Especially the ceramic. We ceramic over everything. Id never trust any brands build in ceramic to PPF. I appreciate it during the install steps tho. Clean up and squeegee feel. The clarity is the biggest deal to me.
I think this guy and I might be related as I've never come across anyone else as insanely OCD and perfectionist as I am . I'm in Chicago and going to be a client asap!
Shoot me a dm on Instagram or checkout statusdetail.com and go to the contact us page.
I'd love to earn your business! Be sure to check out my other videos. Especially the hyper car detailing ones. Then you can really see how crazy detailed I am lol.
Great video 👍✌️🇨🇦
Thank you for watching 🙂
Looking at getting stek and had expel before and appreciate your honesty That’s hard to get these days Thanks ✌️🇨🇦
@@gk9417 my pleasure 🙂
I’ve felt xpel suntek and stek and stek feels the best when it comes to quality
Same and agreed
Hey man, have you had a look at Hexis Bodyfence X also?
I have not. But I hear about it on PPF groups on fb. My understanding is Stek is still more clear. As in less orange peel.
Ahh yea that makes sense, based in the UK and not many people use Stek! But a few have started using Bodyfence, I had felt that orange peel issue with my old xpel ultimate +!
So thinking Bodyfence X and Gyeon Mohs
@@henrychen5936 I have heard a lot of good about body fence.
I'm currently interested in seeing the new carpro ppf. But it seems difficult to get a sample... In my opinion that's never a good sign.
Stek sent me a sample free asap. They have been great to work with and that's certainly part of the equation too.
@@STATUSDETAIL Didn’t even realise Carpro were coming out with a PPF too, but yes I get what you mean, speed from a manufacturer means things like warranty issues likely are dealt with quicker too!
I’m guessing you are yet to try the Gyeon PPF also?
@@henrychen5936 carpro ppf just came out. Not sure it's officially available yet I'm USA. But this year for sure.
Gyeon ppf is not available in USA.
I have heard Stek is more clear than gyeon tho. Orange peel wise
Why didn’t you test the Gyeon ppf films? I can’t seem to find any useful reviews or comparisons about those ppf’s.
Great question with a great reason.
I did reach out because I have a good relationship with the Gyeon guys. But the Gyeon PPF is not available in America yet. I was also told some other things that are likely confidential. But interesting! Lol
One of our friends at Gyeon had only good things to say about STEK.
@@STATUSDETAIL Thanks for the insights! My fathers car is booked in 3 weeks for a full Gyeon and I will get back to how it turned out. My taycan will be next once it shows up 😬
@@KoenDries That's awesome I'm definitely curious how the feedback if you can comment or shoot me something on Instagram. You must be outside of America because like I mentioned we don't get it so I can't really get my hands on it
Which one is better against yellowing? Planning to use ppf on my white vehicle
All modern PPF should not yellow at this point in my opinion basically every manufacturer will offer a roughly 10-year warranty against it. Stek has ten year warranty against the yellowing
@@STATUSDETAIL thank you for the info!
I'm not saying I know it all or anything. But where can I buy this so I can DIY my own vehicle in bulk? The few shops around me are trying to push me to Xpel which tells me they have ulterior motives and aren't doing the best job.
Stek can only be installed by a certified Stek installer
@@STATUSDETAIL 😭😭😭... How do I get certified? 🫠
@@RobertoMezquiaJr contact STEK 👍
I'm having the PRO I work with put on a full wrap of Stek-Dyno, and then he's putting on SIN as a top layer? Think that is the best combination???? Great video...thank you!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Your going to love stek dynoshield. Obviously the other factor is a good installer. Because a great product installed bad can look like a bad product. But I'm sure your installer will do a great job!
I'm unfamiliar with SIN but I'm assuming it's a ceramic coating. I would still ceramic coat over the hydrophobic layer on Stek film. So sounds like you have a good process going down 🙂
@@STATUSDETAIL I'm sorry....typo on my end. It's SKIN.
@@bobstl8647 that makes sense! Skin and EXO are essentially the same product. Carpro makes Skin. Gtechniq makes EXO
They are both designed as ceramic topper's meaning they get installed on existing ceramic base costs. So this is perfect for dynoshield Because it will bond well to the built in ceramic in dynoshield
You're dead right with the reason why expel forces you to buy their coatings, but the point you're missing is that you shouldn't ceramic coat ppf as the film already has the properties in it and a film is soft when ceramic coating drys hard. Stek is an amazing product and does not need any coatings over it I personally think. Also a cap sheet is for protection plus stopping orange peal, so this possibly shows with expel
I've already tested the built in ceramic it's not good. It wears off practically immediately. Addressed this in a few videos. Nice to have but no substitute for real ceramic
STEK Dynoshield vs XPEL Stealth?? I personally like the matte finish I see by the latter, but this video is very compelling.
Both fims showed in this video are gloss. I have not compared matte films yet.
@@STATUSDETAILhave you compared them yet? I need help with stek dynomatte vs stealth!
@@Louishouiller my biggest thing was clarity. That kind of goes out the window with matte films. Every Matte film will have a slightly different Sheen. So it's probably best if you can see a couple of them in person or online comparisons and decide what you prefer.
Stek is an amazing company with amazing warranty. So if you can find someone who has that it would be my recommendation. The most important thing though is going to be to find a great installer. Is the best installer near you uses Suntek for example then that will be the best option if he is the best installer. Matt jobs are very hard to do because everything needs to be wrapped perfectly or you'll have gloss sticking through different spots. So to me having the best film with a mediocre install will always look worse. But in Matte film world I don't think there's a huge difference among all the options.
What do you say about ultimate fusion
Hydrophobic yes. As clear as Stek no. Clarity is number one to me.
totally agree, Xpel is good, but overpriced, charges more for the infused version, stek are super cool guys, and im proud to be an installer
Agreed!
I think Xpel now has a 10mil film that's geared towards people who drive a ton or take their car to the track.
Yep correct. Stek does too. 10 mil is harder to install. Doesn't stretch as easy
Hi,
how about STek Shield Effect series, it have 5 years of warranty, is there any big difference with Dyno series?
I'm unfamiliar with that. Dyno is 10 year tho
@@STATUSDETAIL here in India, we have that Shield Effect with 5 yrs warranty, and it’s similar to Dynolite. How about Dynolite?
@@anoobgeorge I don't believe that's sold in USA.
@STATUS DETAIL the dynolite is, sold from stek USA under the name of ProShield. 5 years warranty, as opposed to the 10 year dynoshield.
It is more affordable, but up here in Canada the hydrophobic top coat wears off in about 2 winters, with all the salt and such on our winter roads.
@@luisorozco3744 interesting! Yea I don't have much confidence in any built in ceramic anything. We coat over the ppf 👍
Can you please comment on Clearguard Alpha. Thank you!
No experience with that one sorry.
Scratch resistance is better from what I've seen with CGA. I think it has some of the best clarity too
@@g8rcb what's CGA stand for? I'll be honest I've never seen a better clarity film then stek many people in the ppf industry who don't work for Stek have told me that too lol. Those people will remain nameless.
Abbreviated clearguard alpha. I think you might be surprised. The hydrophobic properties are pretty good as well
@@g8rcb I have never heard of that is it in USA?
What about ceramic pro Kavaca?
I'll need more feedback on it. But my general understanding is Stek is more clear.
A person I fully trust that installs Stek is trying kavaca soon. I'll be curious on his opinion
What is meant by ‘bulk install’? thanks!
Bulk means you roll an entire piece of film out and then custom cut all of the film to perfectly fit. Plotter cut means the giant printer essentially pre-cuts everything and then you put it on the car. Both have pros and cons. We currently prefer bulk.
Do you have the customer service contact for STEK? An installer in Lyman, Maine is not sending a refund check to me and I need to contact customer service to try to get this resolved.
oh no sorry to hear this. go to stek main website and use the contact us page or DM on instagram maybe
@@STATUSDETAIL I left a message with STEK on their site so we’ll see if I hear back.. but if you come across any info or maybe info for a STEK rep or something. Would greatly appreciate it
@@malcolmh5736 good luck. The website should work. They are really active on Instagram too. Maybe Facebook? I'm not on FB much. But I'd dm on insta too
@@STATUSDETAIL thanks. I’ll try both insta and fb
@@STATUSDETAIL can’t find on insta
Always question these beat them up videos because on the other side, the beater wants to be a winner 😏
Not sure I understand your question
What are your thoughts on dynomatt?
Have yet to see it in person but I'm sure Stek and Xpel stealth are virtually the same end result... A matte car. I am curious if Stek matte is still crazy hydrophobic!
@@STATUSDETAIL I believe it is. Will know soon enough lol
@@mikem5389 my experience with stek do far has ben great. So if your getting dynoMatt I'm sure your going to enjoy it👍👍
@@STATUSDETAIL the dynomatt does not have the hydrophobic top coat nor the 10 years warranty like the dynoshield does. I'd recommend coating matte ppf
@@luisorozco3744 that's helpful to know. We coat over dynoshield too tho.
Can I know approx. How much will it cost me worth of material to do a 4 doors sedan car?
That's a great question and I still ask the stek guys and installers I trust on stuff like this. Because I'm still not always correct and guess high to be on the safe side.
Depends on if it's a s4 or a A8L. Obviously the A8L would use considerably more material. Your ppf reps can usually help with this. I know my Stek rep has helped me!
@@STATUSDETAIL golf 7R .. how much in your opinion it will cost me worth of material?
@@abdallahmoussa1983 truly not sure. $1000? Full body.
Which is better stek or 3m?
Did you watch the video? It should be pretty clear what the answer is.
Stek is the best PPF we have found. So it's better than 3m and every other brand.
3m in my opinion is one of the worse PPF brands actually.
Where can you find the supplier?
Stek website and reach out to become a installer 👍
Where is your shop located?
We are in Aurora IL 🙂
What do you think of STEK colored PPF, did you try it?
I have samples. It looks pretty interesting. In general I've always been a big fan of stealth PPF because PPF is all about value. As in will you get good value out of it if it stops chips.
But when the value is from changing the appearance of your car like from gloss to Matt and you get benefits of PPF the value goes through the roof in my opinion.
So when you have a white car and you want a purple one and you do dyno purple Plus you get rock chips protection It's kind of the same story.
I haven't personally put it on a car yet but I would imagine that it can't be wildly difficult maybe just slightly more difficult than normal.
Assuming the install isn't too complicated I would say it's a pretty cool idea. It's definitely better than vinyl wrap because the life span of vinyl wrap is pretty low especially for anyone who's meticulous because it scratches way too easy and there's no way to fix it once it's scratched. Stek films will self-heal but that's not going to last forever but even still you can polish PPF and restore a lot of it back to normal and you just can't do the same for vinyl after a certain point
@@STATUSDETAIL thanks for the detailed answer
@@zvika my pleasure. Thank you for being part of the channel 🙂
they have a cut software now im using it
its called CUTZ
I heard about this recently. Very cool and exciting for STEK. I still bulking but kicking idea around of plotting some stuff and bulking majority. Love that stek has the software if I want it 👍👍👍
Are u aware of dupont ppf ? Is it good ?
never heard of it
That orange peel problem applies to black cars too?
The problem is orange peel in the material. It will add it to anything. Because the material has it. STEK simply doesn't have it in the material.
@@STATUSDETAIL what about Avery Dennison supreme defense does that has orange peel? I have two places near my house. They only use Xpel or Avery.
@@RS7byGmbH not much experience with that one. STEK is the only one I've seen of a y brands with no texture added
UPPF is crystal clear ppf film. Ultra easy to install also
Never heard of that one
How were you able to buy the film without being an Installer?
Based on having a PPF installer who has experience. You basically need proof of having done a PPF training class from any training facility. You can of course do the training with STEK too. My installer is the same I use today and is incredibly good. He has also been my teacher and has helped make me really good. So if you have content showing you do complex PPF installs that is likely enough proof you have way more experience than just one training class. As one training class won't be enough experience to perfectly do a full body 911 for example. But if you have physical paper proof of training or digital video proof id imagine your good to go. They just don't want to sell to someone who has literally zero experience saying sell me film so I can learn. They want to sell you film so you can retail it. Make money. And make the film look good so you don't misrepresent the product with a poor install.
If you install Xpel or suntek and have for years and have a training certificate from the beginning of learning you can switch to STEK immediately. Our installer made us qualify to buy immediately 👍
I got stek ppf installed,there are swirl marks all over it, after 8 months ,is this normal? Are they gonna be there permanently?
They will likely come out with a heat gun.
The better question is how do you care for you car. Do you have wash or auto wash.
Do you dry wipe or wipe the whole car down with quick detail when it's dirty.
Swirls don't just happen. They are introduced with friction. So your doing something that's way to aggressive. PPF or no PPF you still must treat it as paint and be careful.
@@STATUSDETAIL i spray water on the car using a bottle spray n clean it with a microfiber towel 500gsm in one direction , i never clean it dry
Once in a month or every two months,a full wash is done ,I get the washing done in the stek authorized installer wash shop, where they do full detailed washing with shampoo, it involves pressure washing, i feel this is where I think the car picked up swirls coz the cleaning guys handle lot of cars n not gentle with whole wash even when the staff is notified it's a ppf car
The issue is,It's not self healing, i parled the car under hot sun n those swirl marks are still there
If you're saying that you have a dirty car in front of you and you spray water on it and wipe it with a 500 GSM towel. Then I am 100% sure that you are scratching and swirling that car every single time you've done that for 8 months.
The shop that's washing your car could definitely be adding to it. Just because someone's an authorized anything doesn't mean that they're using a good process or rotating towels and wash pads often as they should.
I'd recommend you do a full proper wash like I show on my channel. If you don't have time then don't wash it. The swirls are coming from improper washing.
They might not self heal anymore because that layer only lasts so long and if the car was cleaned improperly many times then that layer is likely done.
You can sometimes polish out some swirls in ppf.
@@STATUSDETAIL ok, thank you, i will do that, this is my first car, n this was the instructions told by my installer, so i have followed their advice
@@guy6345 that's frustrating. To many installers think the film is bullet proof and will heal out everything.
Do your best to treat it like real paint. We want the self healing to save us on the little things. But wiping a full car down with towels and water will swirl for sure. So we begin to ask to much of that self healing layer and after awhile it just doesn't have any self healing left.
I definitely recommend my video on multiple micro fiber towels for washing. I recommend washing a car when you want to wipe or do a fast quick detail wipe down. Meaning there's no substitution for a proper wash with a hose or a pressure washer soap and water. Because these methods provide the most lubrication and lubrication means less swirl marks.
The only time in my opinion you should be wiping a car that may be dirty is when a bird will poop on it in your driveway for example. You don't want to leave that on for a week until your next wash cuz I can cause a lot of damage to your paint. So you definitely want to wipe that off as soon as possible with some kind of cleaner. This world marks you get from that will be far less extreme than the huge etching from the poop.
I hope that's helpful and I hope some of the other videos I have in my channel regarding car washing can help you out!
Why spek dont sell to the diy people? Need one for the diy
It's incredibly difficult to install PPF. They want the brand and product to be aligned with high end installers so the high end product looks as it should on the cars.
Even with a ceramic coating on it the Xpel wrap isn’t that slippery. Disappointing
I had decent results ceramic coating Xpel. But my ceramic process on Stek is awesome. It really adds a slickness that feels like paint. It feels and looks like paint and that's a huge deal to me
@@STATUSDETAIL I’ve had 4 cars done wjth Xpel and they always start out slippery then taper off. I’m hoping the long term slippery effect last longer on Stek. I’m gonna give it a go on the gt3 touring
@@MW-uy3np I think your going to love it👍 make sure you get ceramic applied over the Stek base ceramic. Don't rely on just the built In Stek coating in my opinion
Sign me in!!!
We can do Stek on your GT4 RS 😃🙂👍
ayy you know his serious when he has a bottle of baby oil next to it
Baby oil? I think you meant baby shampoo. That's what we use to make slip solution 👍
My bad but ayy Great video you saved me from the rabbit whole of ppf BS Thanks alot
What about Suntek?
Suntek is decent but Stek is better in my opinion.
Suntek adhesive is not strong enough. Orange peel looks like digital camo pattern. It's relatively easier to install because of of the adhesive. But also often takes longer to install too
What about Kavaca?
I'll need to get my hands on it and try it.
Difficult to do tho as I'm not going to sign up just to try it. Someone want to send me some lol?
@@STATUSDETAIL My C8 is getting Kavaca on Thursday and it seems like it's the best in the market. Kavaca comes with its own ceramic coating and self healing technology. I'll post video when my car is done.
So I'm not saying the stek isn't a great film or company but your not even a ppf installer... So after you install film for years then come back and make a video saying one is better than the other. You should really work with both products for a length of time before you make your mind up enough to make a video saying something is better than the other.
I've seen Xpel and 3m for years. I've worked with Xpel. Stek and suntek now. Still not even close. Stek is best.
I look forward to your 3rd comment on one of my videos that's also negative 👍
@@STATUSDETAIL This comment wasn't negative I don't agree with your attention getting title as whats best is relative to the person making the assumptions. I think a better title would have been why I like stek over xpel ppf. I'm not here to be negative.. But when you talk a big game you gotta be able to back it up and I don't see that level of expertise from your content., YOur damn sure not doing bespoke detailing you might have a few clients with money believing it but it just isn't the truth. Again not being negative just telling you what i see just like your comparison between films. The truth is the truth. My only other comment was about you buffing a car without a light on it.. I mean come one thats not bespoke at all hell it isn't even good..
@@gerridhodges4084 polishing or compounding a car while actually having a light on is the mark of an expert?Many people don't. I'm one.
Let me guess your an Xpel installer who got upset.
Everything you said is your opinion.
It's my opinion that you're being negative on this channel and watching more than one video finding things wrong with what I do.
If that's the case then I'm not sure why you're wasting your time here?
Make your own videos and tell world tour opinion is your best bet 👍
15 years ppf installer here, tested most big brands out there, used suntek for 8 years back when they only offered 1 option for ppf, switched to stek and been installing stek for the past 3 years, xpel rep been coming to my shop for the past year, keeps giving me free samples and incentives to become an xpel dealer and I'm not interested. Xpel is a subpar film and does not even come close to the entry level suntek, let alone the dynoshield.
@@luisorozco3744 very interesting to hear Xpel coming to you trying to get you to switch. Especially after all the stories of them literally banning installers.
Xpel did not like this video. They did some unethical things after seeing it in my opinion.... Dm me on Instagram if your curious to hear the story lol.
Appreciate your input on the channel. Hope to see you around the channel 🙂
How the fuck to buy this film from them???? Do I need to register as installer!??
Correct! You can only buy Stek products if you are a authorized installer.
You can't buy it like Xpel on the website by the foot. That's marked up retail in smaller bulk sizes. The autherized Xpel installers can buy larger bulk roles at a discount.
To purchase Stek you basically need some credentials showing your able to professionally install PPF.
Contact your installer and get them to order it.
DynoMat compared to XPEL Stealth ? Any noticeable differences?
We have not installed dynomat on a car yet actually! In the past we did stealth tho.
I dont expect it to be any different besides the obvious difference in adhesive between the two brands. I'm use to the stek adhesive and slip solutions now so it would be easy. Especially because matte installs are far more forgiving than clear installs.
Matte films don't have hydrophobic too coats in both cases but we ceramic everything no matter what
STEX website shows the Dyno mat is hydrophobic and is warranted for 10 years . I have a sample 2x2 feet of Stealth , I will try to get a sample of the DynoMat .
@@nickgrace5363 oh no kidding. I have a sample of it actually. Never sprayed water on it.
Another Stek installer told me it wasn't hydrophobic so that's what I was going off.
I'll need to ask the rep and do my own research in it. Don't want to put bad information out!!!
Salesman vibes
I'm unsponsored and make videos about process and products I believe in. If it sounds like a sales pitch it's because I run a business and this is my product of choice. But no one forces or pays me to make like this.
You can get Stek from anyone. Wint bother me. I think it's the best tho.
You can go get Xpel or suntek or whatever ppf you like. But those are simply not as clear as Stek.
how's 3m PPF?
Id use STEK or suntek before 3m
So you prefer having rock chips over having ppf on the car. Respect to your intelligence
Dude for real what are you talking about This entire video is about us installing paint protection film on cars lol!
@@STATUSDETAIL in ppf group on Facebook you made a video about Xpel and stek and you said yourself you were against ppf for a long tome
@@rudimuharemovic3688 I think your confused. This video is about Xpel and Stek. I have another video from awhile ago about the disadvantages of ppf.
Anyone that sells ppf and says it's the best thing ever with zero drawbacks is simply not giving you the full unbiased story.
This video is about how in my opinion Stek is a better product and what I'd want on my car.
If interested I currently have no ppf on any of my 3 cars.
@@STATUSDETAIL I think you are confused! Why should I listed someone who said he was against ppf for a long time. No matter how shitty film might be id still want it over having rock chips.
@@rudimuharemovic3688 I didn't tell you to listen to me.
You can decide who you'd like to get your information from. Are you here to complain or to contribute something?