I play a lot of support and Leona this past split. I think W max is still very strong. and in fact I then max E not Q. E gets its cd reduced per level while Q wont. and I find that if i can move around fights and abuse my near unstoppable mobility I tend to win/live a lot more.
shit I like e so much, some games I'll even start with it so i can lv 1 trade ranged champs that i want to sweat with a good lv 1 follow up adc. like Twitch or Ashe. Edit: I'm dead, he did the E start right away for a similar reason haha.
tilterella. i use hexflash on aatrox support (check in my channel the video: aatrox f*** senna) and generaly i think its realy underrated on junglers. used to have it on skarner and gank mid from the chickens.
Good to see I wasn't the only one who maxed Q. I didn't do it for any good reason tho lol I think your constant use of hexflash is really interesting, maybe worth a vid? Again, keep up the epic stuff man, you da League GOAT :D
This is surprisingly effective on Taric, my duo and I abused the fuck out of this rune since its release. We used Taric + Lucian/Draven mainly. After you land the first cheese dive potential and 2v3 potential is insane. With Taric R.
@markuseleazarsison1759 Inspiration tree with everfrost, and hexflash, biscuits for healthy dives and cosmic insight. Secondaries were more situational but usually second wind/revitalize vs enchanters/poke lanes or conditioning/bone plating vs tanks
What’s the benefits of q max? For the damage? Isn’t level up q don’t reduce the cooldown of it, so imo it’s the worst skill to max out. Sorry if I’m wrong
the best evidence of this just happened at MSI 2024. Mikyx from G2 killed TES ADC with an hex flash, and it was one of the most dominant game of the series. It adds even more if you factor that TES was one of the favorites to win MSI and G2 was a team thought to not make it very far.
Absolutely loved the gameplay. Otherwise for the Q max debate, there shouldn't be any. It is not optimal as it doesnt decrease the cooldown or affect cc duration, and also increases the mana cost for no reason. The +25damages per level do not justify it as if you are looking for the maximum DPS possible, maxing E is by far the better option, with huge decrease of the cooldown and +40 flat damages for each point. W is also stronger than maxing Q because of the insane stat value it provides and the cooldown decrease. In resume : there could be a debate on wether you should max first W (more usual) or E, but always make sure you max Q as your 3rd and last spell ❤
isnt E max more usefull based on cd? PS: it is few months ago that i plaed league and u would main or for cd reduction and not q (it didnt reduce cd for lvl increase?)
double jungle is new meta , where one goes jungle item, and the other goes support item and both have smite. met it 2 times so far in new season and they dont lack XP and it is impossible to survive. both times it has been singed support with smite and Vi FULL critt jungle.
But why increase q rank? As far as i know, it only really increases the damage, ive always maxxed w first as it is free armor and mr and it reduces cdr, i generally max out q last as it seems to benefit the least from levels.
Honestly? I feel like the early skirmishing was pretty flippy. A lot went right tangentially for how things developed as the game went on. Trade your junglers and this puts your similarly well scaling ADC at a major disadvantage. I think the consistent play is to just wait on your lvl 4 when Viego is likely to show up and blow flash for decent setup and then utilize your hex-flash for thereafter. I don't disparage the level 1 bush cheese attempt as had that E connected it would have set you up to play how you wanted to. What I'm sceptical of is everything after the attempt failed.
BTW not telling you how to play or anything but you don't gain much by maxing q first on Leona, same cd just slightly more dmg, w max first is way better it gives u lower cd and more resistances
We need more leona. Also you should go for E flash instead of flash E (it's very easy) and always land an auto before Q (you often miss it, it's a lot of extra dmg), generalny your auto Q auto is very slow for no reason (for example on wards). Also try to open with Q more often instead of E, sometimes the situation lets you do so (enemies juke left and right to avoid phantom E and you quickly can get closer with proper moves), and yet you go for a risky E instead of 100% free Q E R. Also maxing Q is never worth it, literally never
@@Tilterella now I'm curious, why you decided to max Q? Gain from lower cooldowns on W and E outwages dmg gain on Q, and lower cd on E is especially helpful against poking supps. You also get more dmg from W/E too (and higher defences from W) so what's the reasoning? Maybe something changed (last time I played lol was like 2 years ago) but I reached master as otp leo on both euw and eune and it always bothered me how useless lvling up Q is. Not to mention the benefit of way better waveclear with leveled up aoe spells
onde day i wanna see tilterella going against koreans, i wanna see tilterella defeating faker. Thought i don't know why he is not contracted to be part of competitive LoL
engage supports always feel great when you play with a team that follows up on your engage. but most of the time they just watch and flame you just because they dont understand your play :V thank god i stopped playing this toxic game. but watching it is fun
I don't really get the q max. The ability is just as useful at rank 1 as it is rank 5. The stun doesn't go up, the cd doesn't go down. If you want more damage then max e and have more mobility, more cc, the same amount of damage increase. Even the w hits hard when maxed but it steals kills constant It's just bizzare that's the name of the vid, but you didn't really talk about your q at all or why you decide to max it. All the other information in this video is absolutely peak tho. Great video, confusing title.
9:44 bot lane was even with a lot of 2v2 and 3v3. then diana came bot and brand didn't. if it had been the other way around, your aggressive playstyle would've been punished. don't mean to be overly forthright. but hearing you at 10:35 was quite annoying so i felt like i had to be forthright
Any one here play Leona? If you think Q max is Suboptimal then you're obligated to Subscribe. Those are the rules I don't make them
Love the videos and the gameplay!
I used to play a bit of Leona. Was mostly a tank support main. Naut, blitz, thresh and a little bit of Braun Leona.
I play a lot of support and Leona this past split. I think W max is still very strong. and in fact I then max E not Q. E gets its cd reduced per level while Q wont. and I find that if i can move around fights and abuse my near unstoppable mobility I tend to win/live a lot more.
shit I like e so much, some games I'll even start with it so i can lv 1 trade ranged champs that i want to sweat with a good lv 1 follow up adc. like Twitch or Ashe.
Edit: I'm dead, he did the E start right away for a similar reason haha.
I max W but I'm allready subscribed. I'm also a filthy animal so...
tilterella. i use hexflash on aatrox support (check in my channel the video: aatrox f*** senna) and generaly i think its realy underrated on junglers. used to have it on skarner and gank mid from the chickens.
My man pooping out videos like its Christmas
Hi! Quick question. What the fuck does this mean?
@@BatttleBun he means it s wow thst he posts so many videos, usually we were waiting weeks for a new vid :))
you shit tons on christmas?xD
Good to see I wasn't the only one who maxed Q. I didn't do it for any good reason tho lol
I think your constant use of hexflash is really interesting, maybe worth a vid? Again, keep up the epic stuff man, you da League GOAT :D
As a Poppy support hexflash enjoyer, this pleases me. Great video!
This was a masterclass in how important tilt is in game play. You managed to mindcontrol the entire enemy team into fighting over nothing.
I have been maining Leona since Season 5 and I'm still learning new things
I love the uploads! :DD
Keep 'em coming!
This is surprisingly effective on Taric, my duo and I abused the fuck out of this rune since its release.
We used Taric + Lucian/Draven mainly. After you land the first cheese dive potential and 2v3 potential is insane. With Taric R.
can i ask what runes do you use for taric?
@markuseleazarsison1759 Inspiration tree with everfrost, and hexflash, biscuits for healthy dives and cosmic insight.
Secondaries were more situational but usually second wind/revitalize vs enchanters/poke lanes or conditioning/bone plating vs tanks
What’s the benefits of q max? For the damage? Isn’t level up q don’t reduce the cooldown of it, so imo it’s the worst skill to max out. Sorry if I’m wrong
You are absolutely right, Q should be maxed last. But the gameplay was on point 😊
Tilt has stated that he personally maxes Q so he can decide when to take a last hit.
I personally always preffered maxing E. At level 9 you can stunlock enemies so hard
DAMN WTF TILT I ain’t even had enough times sit down today and watch all the vids. GOOD STUFF!
banger video, glad youve been pumping out the uploads lately
the best evidence of this just happened at MSI 2024. Mikyx from G2 killed TES ADC with an hex flash, and it was one of the most dominant game of the series. It adds even more if you factor that TES was one of the favorites to win MSI and G2 was a team thought to not make it very far.
Alternatively, I raise you a Hob, alongside a cash back, and a treasure hunter.
Hexflash on engage is just too good.
What in the Command & Conquer is this music in the background, loving it!
Absolutely loved the gameplay. Otherwise for the Q max debate, there shouldn't be any.
It is not optimal as it doesnt decrease the cooldown or affect cc duration, and also increases the mana cost for no reason. The +25damages per level do not justify it as if you are looking for the maximum DPS possible, maxing E is by far the better option, with huge decrease of the cooldown and +40 flat damages for each point.
W is also stronger than maxing Q because of the insane stat value it provides and the cooldown decrease.
In resume : there could be a debate on wether you should max first W (more usual) or E, but always make sure you max Q as your 3rd and last spell ❤
Hell yeah just finished the previous video while eating and was looking for something to watch to finish my food and there a second upload
isnt E max more usefull based on cd?
PS: it is few months ago that i plaed league and u would main or for cd reduction and not q (it didnt reduce cd for lvl increase?)
He maxes Q so he can take last hits, not because it's good.
Would love to see you play Alistar like this with Hexflash and extreme lane control, you could even build AP and actually do fucktons of dmg too
I want to see my favorite league content creator do some crazy Alicopter shit and destroy people with it
double jungle is new meta , where one goes jungle item, and the other goes support item and both have smite. met it 2 times so far in new season and they dont lack XP and it is impossible to survive. both times it has been singed support with smite and Vi FULL critt jungle.
Yo love the thumbnail and gameplay as always top notch
spiderman naut is really fun should give it a try
Love the videos and the gameplay!
Putting out alot of videos lately! Thank you for the entertainment Sir!!
i know im making the diference when he talks about leona Q max.
Love your vids!
Dude this content is crazy kkep doing it
Damn two videos in one day? Love it
But why increase q rank? As far as i know, it only really increases the damage, ive always maxxed w first as it is free armor and mr and it reduces cdr, i generally max out q last as it seems to benefit the least from levels.
Is that Command and Conquer red alert 2 music I hear?!
Honestly? I feel like the early skirmishing was pretty flippy. A lot went right tangentially for how things developed as the game went on. Trade your junglers and this puts your similarly well scaling ADC at a major disadvantage. I think the consistent play is to just wait on your lvl 4 when Viego is likely to show up and blow flash for decent setup and then utilize your hex-flash for thereafter.
I don't disparage the level 1 bush cheese attempt as had that E connected it would have set you up to play how you wanted to. What I'm sceptical of is everything after the attempt failed.
BTW not telling you how to play or anything but you don't gain much by maxing q first on Leona, same cd just slightly more dmg, w max first is way better it gives u lower cd and more resistances
Damn that mindgame on lvl1
Two videos in one day? Who are you and what have you done to Tilterella?!
Love your comments, more videos like this please ❤
is that crit viego? because i feel like he is so squishy
Leonapilled Qmaxxing
crime is taking bone plating against two poke champs instead second wind
I'm wondering how long it will take for you to discover Alistar.
nice video and all, but please start using e flash xD, love ur vids btw
I’ll try
We need more leona. Also you should go for E flash instead of flash E (it's very easy) and always land an auto before Q (you often miss it, it's a lot of extra dmg), generalny your auto Q auto is very slow for no reason (for example on wards). Also try to open with Q more often instead of E, sometimes the situation lets you do so (enemies juke left and right to avoid phantom E and you quickly can get closer with proper moves), and yet you go for a risky E instead of 100% free Q E R. Also maxing Q is never worth it, literally never
I was closely listening until you mentioned Q max being suboptimal. Now I must ignore the rest.
@@Tilterella now I'm curious, why you decided to max Q? Gain from lower cooldowns on W and E outwages dmg gain on Q, and lower cd on E is especially helpful against poking supps. You also get more dmg from W/E too (and higher defences from W) so what's the reasoning? Maybe something changed (last time I played lol was like 2 years ago) but I reached master as otp leo on both euw and eune and it always bothered me how useless lvling up Q is. Not to mention the benefit of way better waveclear with leveled up aoe spells
@@Michal235 the game has changed bro
@@maggotdog2176 yeah but did Leona? Does she have lower cd on Q with level ups or what? What made it worth it, I'm really curious as a big Leona fan
What is it with the upload pace? My prayers have been answered🙏
Enjoying the video after video
Honestly, fimbulwinter is by Far a Leona Core item, she needs a lot of mana.
Just play safe bro
That was a fun game to watch :)
me playing leona with ghost ... can't use this rune lol
3:20 that was 3 for 2, not 2f2 aka copium
Nah, 3f3
That Vayne made me so mad throughout the entire video.. nice job though:)
When will we see a Poppy support video? 😯
when the enemy picks Zac
@@Tilterella dreams do come true ✨️
@@Tilterella What happens if you Poppy ult Zac's passive blobs? Does it just one shot em? Or does it send them flying?
onde day i wanna see tilterella going against koreans, i wanna see tilterella defeating faker. Thought i don't know why he is not contracted to be part of competitive LoL
New to the channel so forgive me if it’s already been done but Alistar video soon?
the first time I played alistar I ended up on twitter being flamed by everyone so i've been afraid to attempt that one since
@@Tilterella understandable. Great Leona vids regardless. Keep up the good content!
isn't max q just mean more damage while W and E reduce CD
controllable damage yea
@@Tilterella as long as people knows what they are doing am fine with it
Did you just change the video title??
A man of the people
engage supports always feel great when you play with a team that follows up on your engage. but most of the time they just watch and flame you just because they dont understand your play :V thank god i stopped playing this toxic game. but watching it is fun
Poor jinx xD
Said op rune requires you to have a brain, which most league players don't have(including me)
Bros just pulling videos out of his ass, God damn!
I don't really get the q max. The ability is just as useful at rank 1 as it is rank 5. The stun doesn't go up, the cd doesn't go down.
If you want more damage then max e and have more mobility, more cc, the same amount of damage increase.
Even the w hits hard when maxed but it steals kills constant
It's just bizzare that's the name of the vid, but you didn't really talk about your q at all or why you decide to max it.
All the other information in this video is absolutely peak tho. Great video, confusing title.
Fixed
9:44 bot lane was even with a lot of 2v2 and 3v3. then diana came bot and brand didn't. if it had been the other way around, your aggressive playstyle would've been punished. don't mean to be overly forthright. but hearing you at 10:35 was quite annoying so i felt like i had to be forthright
what is this anticlickbait thumbnail lol
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3 minutes ago 101 views, bro fell off
First Views is crazy
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