Why I Am Not a Baptist
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- Are mid-Acts dispensationalists Baptists? Can someone be mid-Acts Pauline dispensational and a Baptist at the same time? Learn more in this lesson, "I Am Not a Baptist."
Find the outline here: graceambassadors.com/midacts/...
Grace Ambassadors Bible Fellowship - September 26th, 2021
As a former independent baptist, I'm very glad you did this video. Amen and amen.
Amen, same here. I am also a former independent Baptist
Why did you leave?
Former Church of Christ here. I’ve learned that water baptism was for Israel who were to become a Nation of Priests. We, today, are spiritually baptized into the Body of Christ. One Lord, one faith, and one baptism! God bless you Pastor! ✝️❤️
Awesome! Good for you. I have talked to many "Church of Christ" people who are very stuck on water baptism to get saved. You have encouraged me today, thank you.
yes i agreed Jesus came not to baptize with water it was John Baptist baptism in the water of repentance Jesus came to baptise us with the Holy Spirit. The kicker in this is that Peter did baptize Cornellius the first converted , Peter transfer the water baptism who was for the Jews also to the gentile BUT this will end when Jerusalem and is temple will be destroyed in 70ad because water baptism came from the ritual of urification of the law and the temple being destroyed the law ENDED officially.
@@lina-zz9kk our spirit is regenerated at salvation not our flesh. Our flesh will NEVER be regenerated, that is why we get a new body for Heaven.
How is your water baptism working for you in denying your fleshly lusts?
If truthful it's not and never will until we are taken home!
@@michelhaineault6654 I will just agree to disagree with all of what you just said. No discussion necessary.
@@dkgrace6743 because Jesus did not come to baptize with water, but with the Holy Spirit? This is the hearth of the true Gospel.
Former independent fundamental Baptist here, I initially thought you were Baptist also I think it was due to the necktie and King James Bible. As I continue to listen I started spotting the difference and then I started asking questions at the Baptist Church I was going to. I eventually left because it wasn't lining up with what I was learning from the Bible. I consider myself in line with Pauline mid acts right division which were all concepts that I never learned in the Baptist Church
What differences?
Ditto!
You are an amazingly adept teacher of the word of truth, and I feel so blessed to be learning so much from you. Praise God, for finally having opened my eyes.
Great teaching brother, all the glory to God!
Such helpful teaching. We have many Baptist churches in the UK and they all teach as Justin explains.
So needed to understand where their teaching strays from scripture.
Thankyou JJ and GA
Thank you so much pastor for explaining the truth
So, I have been attending a congregation for 4 weeks, the said they were a non denominational church but next Sunday the will have some baptisms. I used to attend a Pentecostal church, left 15 years ago and just recently begun attending that nondenominational church. But, I did go yesterday. Most likely won’t return.
It's better to attend an online church like Justin's than to go to a place where the word is not rightly divided and preached correctly. Dave O'Steen from Hope bible church is another and David Reed from Columbus Bible church is a 3rd one.
@@lina-zz9kk You are sad.
@@dkgrace6743 i too came to that decision. That weekend after I decided to not go to my baptist church, i found a grace church 50 miles from me. What a blessing its been
I dont know about all but i never met a baptist that believes water baptism has anything to do with getting into the body or the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Baptist teach water baptism is an outward sign to the people around that you have been saved already. Every baptist i know teaches water baptism is the first step of obediance after you get saved and a lot of baptist churches do want you to be water baptized to be a member of their local church.
I have been to a church that teaches being baptized brings you into church membership and the body of Christ and the bride of Christ
@@sarahs7751 I think those are Baptist briders . Did they believe in osas?
Having come out of Calvinism, I now can't even say I believe in their "T" of Tulip because by it, they do not just mean totally depraved, but they take it a step further to mean a total inability to believe the Gospel when you hear it unless God regenerates you first. Then the "ulip" is all a result of & built upon this horribly gone-wrong assumption. Thanks for this great video, Justin. Appreciate your ministry so much!
to chose is a work salvation
@@michelhaineault6654 Believing is the only thing we CAN do in this dispensation of grace. 1 Cor. 15:1-4, the only gospel that saves today & it's never a work to quit your own work to put your trust in the perfect work of another (Christ) on our behalf. The righteousness OF Christ ( not our own) which is imputed to us when we believe it.
@@mickeyfoeller771 The "T" for inability is already included in John 1:13. Some dead corpse will NOT resurrect himself to life again. That's what made Erwin Lutzer take his students to preach the gospel on a cemetery to visualize to them.
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER....that's a dumb thing to do.
Contrasting being physically dead and spiritually dead can only go so far. The truth is, a living breathing person that's merely spiritually dead still has a brain, heart, mind, ears, soul.....ect.
God gave every person enough to get saved, all they need is the Gospel and the Holy Ghost.
@@KingjamesAV1611 Ephesians 2:1: "And you HAS HE MADE alive, who were DEAD in trespasses and sins;"
Colossians 2:13: "And you, BEING DEAD in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, HATH HE QUICKENED together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;"
DEAD IS DEAD and a dead man doesn't resurrect himself. That's why the Bible says, HE (God) HAS MADE (us) ALIVE. John 1:13 No one is born again by himself.
Excellent. Thanks, Justin! Makes total sense. Thanks for sorting it out. So glad you did this video as I've been getting mixed signals - now by you explaining it and my reading my KJB, I get it. I can't be a baptist either.
It’s so awesome 😎 to understand the separation. .!! Rightly divide.. I took bible college threw the mail. And said James don’t match Paul. Then 15 years later I found a right teacher. Now I have 5 teachers only now instead of 20. Lol awesome 😮
Amen, I enjoyed this teaching. I could challenge on some verses by playing devils advocate, but what you cover is great. I took Brother Mcklean's dbi course online years ago. That man was a Great servant of God and a pioneer in MAD, helped me be a mid acts guy. I've tried for years to refute guys like him and les feldick but once you see it in scriptures you will never unsee it. Praise God for you brother. I may come out your way and worship God with you on a Sunday or two. Be well and God bless
Many baptist churches believe that only they are the Bride of Christ, and that they are the only church that has been commissioned to preach the gospel.
They get this doctrine from a little book called The Trail of Blood that documents their succession all the way to John the Baptist, who they say was the first Baptist.
They also believe that they are the only ones who have the authority to send out missionaries to start another local church. They call these churches independent but they're not, the missions board keeps the pastors in line as they will cut off their funds if they stray from their particular doctrines.
Also they water baptise new believers into the assembly and their baptism also allows them to attend to the Lords table.
Yes, I have already been denied access to the Lords table as I wasn't dipped in water in Germany. 🤦🤦
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER and, that denial perhaps was to your benefit, I came out of baptist church where you become a member upon water baptism, and then allowed to Lord's table, the problem with that was that a bunch of false converts even witches in disguise joined, I have seen a baptist pastor baptize in water more witches and imposters than true believers, it's a mess.
Bible is final authority if you are going to be consistant with the bible you can not be a
Baptist or any other denomination with confustion with the contradictions in the scripture , Pauline mid acts is the way to Go.
People dont see the danger of mixing us with Isreal in propecy mixing law and grace exactly what Paul was trying fix in the church threw right doctrine and our new identity .
Allot of People know what mid acts teach and know that its the truth but still choice to go by what makes them feel good like going to a church that teaches wrong doctrine they might be saved but thats not honouring Jesus .
Keep up the good work Grace Ambassadors by trying to make all believers of one mind in christ Mid Acts Dispinsational and this teaching far more consistant and biblical than any other .
Thanks for being courageous to expose the wrong doctrine out there 👍
@@lina-zz9kk
Lina it sounds like your fighting a battle within yourself .
My question is as your not a bible beliver.
what are you living for ?
What the evidence what your living for realible ?
@@lina-zz9kk
So you believe that the bible is reliable at penticost the falling of spirit to 3000 thousand jews .
Do you believe paul recieved a mystery and a different gospel the gospel of grace ?
Also what the final authority experence ,culture , feelings etc ?
Is truth exculsive ?
@@lina-zz9kk
Im typing on my phone which is more slow the comp
Your saying that justin is just copying Mc lean this is from men , but its our job to see what is most reasonable and makes the most sense and i have chosen M.A.D it clear up all the confusion and give liberty i can see hyprocrisy in main stream christianity.
But what i dont understand is you dont have the postion to make them claims as you can not even tell me whats your final authority ?
Whats the motive behind continually trying to prove this teaching wrong without biblical support ?
why you are trying to persuade me to listen to you ?
Am i lying if i say that this men made book as you claim has given me a foundation ?
I ask you again is truth exclusive ?
Im a KGB bible believer its has proven to me its trust worthiness more than men in his wisdom .
@@lina-zz9kk
Lina its changed my life im serious its given courage in things i could never do on my own strength this book super natural , if i told you would not believe me what this book has done for me .
Without it im lost
Will you be doing a part 2 of this message, I hope, that discusses the practical ways you and I cannot be a Baptist?
I'm not a Baptist. I'm a Christian.
John The Baptist is not my GOD.
But JESUS CHRIST so I'm a CHRISTIAN 😊
Dispensationalism holds that both the Old Testament and New Testament are interpreted using literal grammatical-historical interpretation. As a result, they reject the idea that the meaning of the Old Testament was hidden and that the New Testament can alter the straightforward meaning of the Old Testament.
WOW ,I LEFT THE BAPTIST CHURCH ALSO,THANK YOU BROTHER JUSTIN, SORRY I WROTE IN CAPS NOT ANGRY JUST CANNOT SEE VERY GOOD
The Pastor at the Independent Baptist Church I went to said Paul was a apostle not a missionary
When I was growing up in Tennessee my mother was Pentecostal so was my grandmother I went to church with them regularly, but my parents were divorced and after the divorce my dad lean toward the Baptist Church so when I would go to church with him I would always feel like I was being pulled both ways in separate directions especially when it came to understanding the trinity because they don't agree on it the Baptist also don't believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost
We who are in the body of Christ are baptized by the spirit, not with the spirit.
@@BrownBrown270 Actually it's BOTH by 'impregnation' with the Spirit of God. We got a NEW Spirit, making ourselves a "new creation in Christ".
What is your belief in communion?
We only have baptist and Catholics and pentacostals in our city
I heard a preacher say when tracing on acts 2:38 they were not baptized in determining in The Name of Jesus andvtherevwasvnonwater baptism in acts 2 :3:38 how would you do that?
You're so smart to tell people why you should leave the Baptist church and question their distinctions.
We should all be grace-full like yourself.
Shame on these hell-fire preachers 🍌🤸♂️🦄🤸♂️
Jesus said hisself that we must be baptized of water AND of the Holy Spirit
Jesus told that to the 12. Paul says Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach the gospel. The gospel Paul preached included the DB&R of Jesus unlike the kingdom gospel the 12 and Christ preached during his earthly ministry to the circumcision. Water baptism was commanded in the 12s ministry by Christ and Paul thank God he only baptized a few in 1 Cor 1 before he says Christ sent him not to baptize but to preach the gospel. Christ sent Paul with info the 12 didn't have about mystery revelation from Christ that is a gospel that saves those that believe. The water baptism practiced by 12 and Christ in the red letters is not what Christ revealed to Paul for how we are saved in the dispensation of the grace of God.
Were Quakers grace believers?
Baptism is for identification in Jesus Christ
I'm guessing that repentance was for Israel and not for the Body of Christ?
It would nice if the moderator told me what he is before he told me what he is not. The battle of doctrines with the battle of interpretation of scripture. Dispentationalist? True Church?😇💒
Justin said it many times what he is - mid-Acts, Pauline right division dispensationalist.
So... this is the one church not a denomination?
I’m in North Texas and have not found ANY churches that that line up with Pauline teaching, Rightly dividing and not requiring Water baptism. Thank goodness for the internet! Still hopeful🕊️🤍🕊️
Grace Bible Church
Grace Bible Church is located on the east side in the Meadowbrook section of Fort Worth, near the intersection of Interstate 30 and Loop 820
Agreed that we must be a member of the church, however there weren’t any buildings that Jesus claimed, so being a member of a congregation is more in alignment with Jesus’ instruction. Being a member of a church building is often the behavior I’ve noticed from all by lack congregation to mixed culture to majority Caucasian and so on. Religion has gotten way out of hand, thus the distancing from would be great young leaders.
You threw me off at 28:30 when you stated that you can't be saved without being member of a church. Since that fully contradicts the simple saving gospel i dont understand what scripture supports that claim. Did i misunderstand something? I'm pretty sure that being a member of the body of Christ has nothing to do with man-made buildings.
Sorry to say that J M Carrol is all but one less representative of Baptist notion of Baptist origin. Guess some good work like "Baptist Concepts of the Church and their Antecedents" by Paul S. Fiddes in The Oxford Handbook of Ecclesiology Edited by Paul Avis (2018) will help to impress or validate the clouded idea of Baptist in this talk. God blest.
There are Baptists who are saved by grace through faith in the blood of Christ and would declare that beloved brother Paul, apostle of the Gentiles, is the pattern for believers and THEN go so far as to claim-using Acts 9:18 as proof text-that Paul was baptized in water. ;-)
Paul was baptized in water. He was a hebrew.
@@BrownBrown270 being Hebrew doesn't have anything to do with being baptized in water.
I was water baptized twice in 2 different Independent Baptist churches. First when I was 10, then the last time when I was 29 because I was told if I am not water baptized I am not in the church (Landmarkist, brider garbage).
@Clay Shrader yes. Baptist ministers tend to over emphasize the necessity of a local church, compulsary membership before you can be involved to ministry, church building, attendance, attire, tithes, firstfruits, never fund raising, extreme on office of the pastor, submission, rule over you, pastoral leadership etc. As if God will only deal with believers if they are continueing in a local assembly. As if people will be misserable if they have no local membership.
@@paulinegrace3153 I have no local membership since the LORD Jesus saved me in 2005 as in my German neighbourhood there are only Laodicean congregations. I am not baptized in water either but in the Spirit, that's enough.
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Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years?
The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist.
Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on TH-cam, which shows the real causes of Christian sects and atheism. The video reveals a prophecy about the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the end of the world. Watching this video will bring joy to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
Miracles and Wonders were given to the apostles especially as a token of divine authority. It was the task of the later church leaders to "make disciples" by not leaving the apostles' path. Apparently, they did. Sad but true. Nevertheless, EVERY single born again child of God can STILL decide in their Spirit to return to the full counsel of God once again and to reject false leadership. 🙏
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER What can we know about the Church of Christ? What was she like? We know about the Church of Christ only what is known from the books of the New Testament. We do not know of any other Church of Christ outside the New Testament. What was the Church of Christ in the books of the New Testament? Certainly not symbolic and not invisible, but a strictly hierarchical organization consisting of believers baptized with the Holy Spirit, where the Gifts of the Holy Spirit were manifested.
As written: *"Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues."* (1 Corinthians 12:27-28).
This was the Church of Christ in the first century, but for 2000 years we no longer see such a Church of Christ, there are no Apostles, no prophets, no one has miraculous powers and gifts of healing. But we see gatherings of people headed only by teachers speaking in the name of Christ, but not having the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said: *"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover"* (Mark 16:17-18).
There we also read: *"So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following"* (Mark 16:19-20).
I would like to draw your attention to these words: *"the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following".*
that is, miracles reinforce the word of God and they are important for the preaching of the teachings of Jesus.
For 2000 years, including our time, we have not seen any believers who have accompanied or are accompanying these signs. But in the books of the New Testament we read that in the first century, believers performed many miracles.
As written: *“And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people”* (Acts 6:8).
*“Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them”* (Acts 15:12).
*"Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. And there was great joy in that city"* (Acts 8:5-8).
Where are Stephanes, Barnabas, Pauls in our time? Where is Philip, who brings great joy to the cities?
In which church do the blind gain sight? Where are the lame and bedridden jumping for the joy of being healed? Where are demons cast out? Where are the dead raised? Where are the Prophets? Where do they lay hands on the sick and get rid of sickness? Such miracles are not performed in any church, anywhere in the world.
Jesus said: *“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.”* (John 14:12).
But where are these believers now doing the works of Jesus and even more than Jesus himself did?
The Church of Christ was destroyed in the first century and for 2000 years false churches appear that claim to be the Church of Christ but do not have the testimony of God, that is, miracles. It was by miracles that God testified about the Church of Christ, just as he testified about Jesus.
As written: *“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:”* (Acts 2:22).
God testified about Jesus, and then about the Church of Christ by miracles. But the Church of Christ was destroyed in the same way as Christ was killed in due time, and therefore the signs and wonders that accompanied the Church ceased, and now She has been buried for 2000 years, but will rise in the last days as Jesus rose again.
The prophecy of the death and resurrection of the Church is present in the parable of the ten virgins (Matthew 25:1-13).
"Revelation" also prophesies about the emergence of the Church: *“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:”* (Revelation 12:1).
The emergence of the Church will just be a great sign of the imminent Coming of Christ.
@@edvardzv5660 I can recommend a little book entitled 'The Pilgrim Church' by Edmund Hamer Broadbent it gives a short but good overview about the REAL early churches and how they developed. They didn't leave much of information because they were so often persecuted and their writings destroyed. Yet the gospel couldn't be extinguished. We will meet all of them SOON with Christ, in the air! 🙏👰💖 I think the booklet is also available in the internet as PDF File? I have read in German as I am from Germany. Blessings your way MARANATHA! 😁
We belong to Christ not any Caesar! Amen!
In KJV it say Ana Baptist
lot churches but not Southern Baptists think i cant get saved cause i live with my bf
If you are purposefully living in sin, they are probably right. Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
@@brotherrobert9560 All sin is purposeful. So, I guess according to you, you’re going to burn for all eternity in the lake of fire too.
@@pattyabma2586 read the Colossian letter.
@@brotherrobert9560 I have. Many, many, many times so.
@@pattyabma2586 the first part of chapter 3 talks about the sin that the Colossians had been able to put of. Paul then goes on to tell them to put off the other things. The first section seems to be the purposeful sins. The 2nd part is the incidentals. Things that happen without much thought such as anger. Just food for thought
They do say catholic in the Bible
The word Catholic is not at all in the king James Bible. Other corrupt Bibles probably have that word.
On the point of baptism being for Jews only I think is misleading. Jesus told the apostles in Matthew 28:19 “go ye therefore and teach ALL nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Ghost.
I find it interesting that mid acts people are hung ho on 1 baptism but the day there are 2 body’s. Seems a little hypocritical to me.
The FINISHED work Jesus accomplished is of UTMOST importance. SO SO MANY religions DO NOT believe in the FINISHED work of Jesus for salvation!!!
You know nothing of Baptist teaching or history. You took an extreme view of Landmarkers and said that is baptist. I know a lot of baptist preachers who do not baptize people, and who do not go back to John for the starting of the church. I do not know any real baptist that say it is water baptize that puts you into the body of Christ. Your view of Baptist theology is flawed.
Look harder. The SBC in general do not teach this about baptism. The Missionary, Freewill, General, etc, do teach this about baptism. Either salvation or special rewards for those baptized by specific groups or pastors.
it is sad that there are so many millions that do not want the truth, these people are no different than those who have come and gone, tell me what I want to hear, and none of that works stuff because I won't have it.
Isa 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
Isa 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
Jer 5:30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;
Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
These have a form of godliness, and they force fit the word of God into their form to make it say what they want it to say and get fighting mad with anyone who dares to disagree with them!
They have a spirit of hostility, some have major attitude problems, how dare you say osas is a false doctrine! then they proceed to regurgitate all of their top verses that supposedly proove osas, and they will never answer the scriptures that stand against their osas.
even going so far as to claim there are no scriptures against osas!
Don't feed the trolls, they will have to take their masks off when troughing...
If Jesus was baptised by water, then it is good enough for me. I would not become of getting baptised by crucifixion. The vast majority of Christians have been baptised and water was a part of the tradition. Does being baptised by water prevent them from salavation? Are they Christians? It seems to me you are quibbling over petty details. 😇💒😎
Ok not this denomination but another? I have no denomination and i don't want one. So he's not Baptist but I'll bet he's of another denomination. Research whatever you're in.
Water baptism and John's baptism are not the same. Philip water baptism is identity with Christ nothing to do with John's baptism.
All water baptism is the same. It was designed to purify Israel to be Priests in the Kingdom.
Where does scripture indicate that to Philip?
@@rickorider The eunuch was a proselyte to the Jews, as he attended their feasts and bought an expensive Isaiah scroll. This was OT scriptures and Philipp would explain him the NT covenant from OT like preaching to a Jew.
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER Thankyou yes so true but Philip did not present the death burial and resurrection of Christ as payment for sins as Paul does in his epistals. The revelation of the mystery could not have been known at this time. Philip was preaching Christ according to prophesy and not the mystery that came later through Paul.
@@rickorider John 1:29 "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, *Behold the Lamb of God, which TAKETH AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD."*
Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: *FOR HE SHALL SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS."*
The gospel of remission of sins by Jesus Christ was already declared much earlier and especially in the OT prophecy of Isaiah chapter 53.
If you bring the gospel to Jews you must show them the Old Testament. Compare what Zev Porat does in Israel among the Rabbis TODAY (messiahofisrael Channel). But the "baptism" topic is connected to Jewish understanding of "cleansing" but not primarily connected to the church (AFTER the book of Acts which is describing a historical timeline of transition, not doctrine).
Not a Baptist...maybe not a Christian either.
🚩 complete disconnect from the church's historical interpretation of baptism
🚩dispensationalism...🤡
If this is actually in earnest, then someone needs to debate James White on baptism.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Not ONE in a denomination, ONE IN CHRIST JESUS!
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. HIS VOICE!
Seems that nicolaitan spirit (that The Lord Jesus Christ hated),( Nico, to conquer, laity, the people) has taken over the churches, with doctrines, dogma, and creeds made by man. It was not so at the beginning, that's where we need to go back to, Calvary, and live thru the true vine that is eternal, the Lord Jesus Christ. You said, our doctrine differs from their doctrine! It's not our doctrines, it is THE SPOKEN WORD of God, 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (there's only one way we are shown the Baptism in the Book of Acts, all 3 were Baptised in this manner, the Jews, the Samaritans and THE GENTILES).
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Amen.
THINK: WHAT DID SATAN SAY! 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH.
DONE! WHO WILL SIT IN THE TEMPLE SOON?
Lord God have mercy on any man who takes away or adds to the WORDS of the book of this prophecy. Amen.
Amen.
I am not in agreement with him on several levels. I trust God, not one who attacks others by splitting hairs and making false claims about the Baptist faith and message. They are not perfect but you seem intent on dragging down the saints and creating division within the body of Christ.
The only baptism that wash our sin it's by being BAPTISM IN JESUS BLOOD ( we are crucify with Christ) and the only baptism that saves its TO BE BORN FROM HEAVEN.
Water baptism never been by immersion as it came from the rituals of purification of the law and the law ended officially in 70a.d. with the destruction of the temple.
Michael...: So, do you have some of that with you somewhere? Also, I believe the Law ended when Jesus spoke to Paul and the Age of Grace began - Acts chapter 9
Is the One baptism in Ephesians 4:5 Jesus' blood baptism?
@@tamarin2k Not really, Jesus came to baptize us with THE SPIRIT and not with water. To be born again, we have to be born front the Spirit.... and Christ is the Spirit. Blood baptism refer to Jesus perfect offering at the cross this is why we are crucified with Him ( in is blood) and this allows us by true Grace and faith to be baptized with the Spirit BECAUSE we are purified from ours sins trough Jesus.
@@michelhaineault6654When were we crucified with Him? 2000 years ago at Calvary? Before the foundation of the world? The moment we are born again? Back up to verse Ephesians 2:5, I have a hard time understand that maybe because I live inside the domain of time and God doesn't. When we are born again, the Holy Spirit adds us into body of Christ. Is it when we are considered crucified with Him?
@@tamarin2k Gal.2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Paul represent is new life trough is death with Christ , we have to die for to be resurrected. It's a spiritual resurrection, we are born again in the Spirit and Christ is the Spirit who dwell in us. We have been resurrected with him after being dead with him and the second death will have no power over us. We are now eternal, not our body but our spirit...Christ Spirit is eternal and he live in us and we in him. We have crucified our old sinful nature.
Well ..... Hes right.....hes not a Baptist! 😂
Im a KJV Dispensational independent Bible Believing Baptist and we definitely do NOT agree. 😊
Mid-acts is wrong. The church started before Paul.
Acts 2:47, says " the Lord added to the CHURCH daily....."
Hebrews 9: 16 tells you "a Testament starts at the death of a testator". (The Cross or The New Testament)
Then the biggest blow to Mid-acts, is Paul saying out of his own mouth.....in Romans 16:7 that there were others "IN CHRIST" BEFORE HIM.
Can't get around that my friend.
You are a hyper-dispensationalist!
And as a baptist, i don't hold to water baptism for anything more than "a good conscience towards God". 1 Peter 3 :21
There are at least 7 baptisms in the Bible.
I agree, Paul is the Apostle to the gentiles, but you make a HUGE mistake if you don't at least "spiritually apply" the other books of the New Testament.
Maybe not doctrinally in every case, but "the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much" ...... definitely still applies to today!!
why you are not a Baptist you made up your own faith😆
@Bible Alone How many times was Lord Jesus Christ baptized?
@@sangre5670 HIC EST PATER IACII NON PREDICAT CHRISTUM CRUCIFERUM😁
@@biblealone9201 Ha! Ironically, Presbyterians, Baptists, and Church of Christ members all disagree on the tenets of water baptism. Which camp do you fall under and how do the other 2 not make up their own faith to you as well?
@@jaylonbachman this camp Jn 20:21, "As the Father has sent Me, I also send you."
Jn 17:18, "Even as thou hast sent Me into the world, so I have sent them into the world."
Jn 17:22-23, "And the glory that thou hast given Me, I have given to
Matt. 28, 18-20: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye, therefore. and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mark 16:16 - Jesus says to the crowd, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." But in reference to the same people, Jesus immediately follows with "He who does not believe will be condemned."😁😁
@@biblealone9201 right, so all 3 camps use those verses. So again, which camp do you fall under? Do you believe water baptism is necessary for salvation? Do you believe in sprinkling infants? Or do you believe we are just under Israel’s program because you don’t rightly divide?
Dispensationalism is an heresy.
Michael Haineault: Why do you say this?
@@4671Michael read 2Peter3
This type of dispensationalism is right out of the twisted corrupt mind of Satan and his minions. Who divide the Scriptures to a point of utter confusion in the guise of "properly dividing". Furthermore it shows a lack of understanding as to who God is and how He has always worked and will continue to work to draw ALL humans to Him from the fall of man until the new heaven and new earth. To believe what this man teaches you need to literally tear out all books of the Bible except for the epistles of Paul.
You dont understand what your saying paul uses the hole bible in his epistles to make his points .
Paul recevied information that was kept secret and revealed to him specifically
Rom 16:25,Col 1:25-27,Eph 3:7-9 .
All scripture is for our understanding and learning but we dont put ourself in any context, Paul was the apostle of Grace the apostle of the gentiles we are not under a covenant,law,Isreal but a new creature the body of christ . Paul Quotes
2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Saying we are to throw out the whole bible and just leave paul letters is just a flesh- carnal reflex to hearing something you might of never heared before Mid Actd Dispensational right divison .
If you dont see the need for this teaching then let it it be 👍
@@wardashimon-australia33 Gospel of Grace is and has always been the way to salvation. From the fall of man to the new heaven and new earth. Nothing new was given to Paul, Paul is referring to his conversion when he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. Jesus said "In the volume of the book it is written of me". Jesus of prophecy is the same Jesus of "mystery", Jesus in the flesh was God in the flesh. God is the same yesterday and forever. And yet you place Him as one that changes His mind constantly on how we are to come to Him. That is wickedness. Hyper-dispensationallism is wickedness. This teaching of the "Paul introducing Grace" Is contrary to the Word of God and is wickedness. To believe that salvation is simply believing in Jesus Christ without confession is contrary to the Word of God and is not salvation. If there is no repentance there is no salvation, if there is no confession there is no salvation, if there is no faith there is no salvation. Paul did not teach another Gospel. Peter and Paul's doctrine agree.
@@joelrast4084
God showed his grace to people threw out the bible by giving people what they dont deserve at times,
but a more in depth knowledge Gods grace Jesus revealed after the death burial and resurrection of jesus to Paul the apostle of grace with an update of what was not known before .
God is the same yesturday today and for ever but his instructions change to men ,
thats why you have to be dispensational unless there will to many contradictory instructions and you end up making yourself Isreal which is a huge problem.
Paul and Peter did teach the death burial and ressurrection but they did not teach the same thing peter was teaching under a covenant Paul is not , but grace was given to both but forfill there purposes.
Why peter is under a covenant is because God made a everlasting promise to fathers about Isreal about being a channel of blessing to the world Gen 12:1-3,
as Isreal is fallen in this despinsation God is working differently its called the dispensation of grace Eph 3:2, grace is on the throne not the law Rom 5:21.
You can only get saved by grace in this dispensation, confession of sins and repentance which is law requirements that is not how the bible instructs us to operate today.
Your fighting the wrong battle saying this teaching is from the devil i would say opposite would be more correct .
@@wardashimon-australia33 confession of sin and repentance are not under the law, but are requirements for salvation. For the law convicts, always has always will. If you are not saved you are under the law whether Jew or Gentile. And the law condemns all to death. But salvation is recognition of God, who He is what He requires, and repentance and confession to Him and Him alone coupled with belief in the Lord Jesus Christ. This is in Romans 10. The Jews an many men today are trying to appease God with their righteousness, but it will never work. For we need His righteousness. This is taught throughout the Scriptures and to all alike.
The Spirit within me rejects your interpretation.
I am praying that you'll come to the true knowledge of the Bible
@@joelrast4084
Last thing and i let you go confession is a under the law.Leviticus is the book of law
After all, God told Israel to ordain priests to whom men confessed sins for forgiveness (Lev 5:5-6). Men came to John the Baptist confessing their sins (Mat 3:6). God in Christ ordained authority for the apostles to forgive sins also:
“Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them…” - John 20:23
Look if you have a sin problem and continually struggly with it you be thanking god for his grace that his holding back his judgement and given all things freely (Grace).
What does this miss guided pastor do with Acts 8:35-39
This man is dangerous,turn him off
This man is a heretic
santan has to appreciate this dog
This is a clear cut cult
Satan