Very informative video, I like it despite the camera angle. I wonder if You ever tried, and if so, what you think about NEMO spoon shape bags? I'm a side slipper, and I'm looking for something comfortable but not a quilt.
You know, I have never tried a spoon bag. Looking at the design of them never made sense to me for the style of side sleeping I do. I favor the "can opener" position. I don't need the wide footbox, but I do need the most room for my top knee that when in position, falls at about mid thigh on the bag, which in the spoon bags seems to be right where they start necking down. I think that they would work great for someone who tends to run from the knee down at night. While that isn't me, it may work great for other side sleeping styles than mine. But, like I say, I've never tried one. I would like to hear feedback from those who have. Thanks for watching, and I will do a follow up video that better frames my demonstrations on this. Matt
Thank you Matt for putting the video together. I was looking forward to this one. Actually last week, I was doing the same thing as you in this video. Rolling around on my living room floor in my existing sleeping bag, trying to see if I could move around inside it rather than the bag moving with me. I found, albeit a difficult way, of moving around inside my current bag, but then I found the issue of having my face stick straight into the side hood like you showed. Glad you also showed in there are ways around this, that being a down hood and neck gaiter. I decided to sell my current winter bag and will likely get an overfilled WM Kodiak, and then maybe a make a Climashield blanket and take that on extra cold nights.
Wow, that sounds great! One thing that I forgot to say when I half-jokingly said "You're going to die of hypoxia" breathing into your hood. In actuality, they say there is very little chance of that happening in a sleeping bag. Breathing into a sealed hood of a Gore Windstopper bag, however, could quickly create a dangerous situation. Especially at altitude. I've been really under the weather for weeks and wanted to get this out sooner with better camera work etc. But, hopefully the just of my solutions were evident. I told you I was going to do this one next and I really wanted to deliver on my claim. So, thanks a lot for your viewership and please let me know if you could how this develops for you. Take care, Matt
I don't recall if you were aware that if you order your Kodiak through Hermit's Hut, you will get the overfill for free. It will be custom built with overfill added. My son and I have purchased several bags this way. It's a better value if you are willing to wait a few weeks to receive it.
@@mattsmountainmadness I'm in no rush and I did see that Hermits Hut provides that service. There is a local dealer here that is willing to give me 15% off the total price of a bag, so when the time comes to purchase, I'll have to make a comparison on price.
Good information! Although the camera could've been positioned a little better thanks for all the accessories information. I now know for sure as a side sleeper that I won't be purchasing a mummy style bag.
Ya, the framing in this video is horrible. I want to remake this video soon, as there are many things that could have been better about it. I am glad you were able to get something out of it though. Thanks for watching! Matt
Love your videos and great info on your WM sleeping bags. Thank you, Matt! I am looking forward to the remake of this video with the angle adjustments, so everything you are explaining and demonstrating is easy to see completely. I really want to try out each of your sleeping bags and winter camp with you in the harshest snowy settings,too. I just don't have the money for the proper gear just yet, but I imagine someday I will.
@@nathankalana8616 Right on my friend, I will be taking you guys there in just a few months. I got my channel started a little late last year, but am gearing up for the best cold camping season ever in a few short months! Good luck in your ongoing gear acquisition and thanks for tuning in to my channel, Matt
Great tips, thank you.. Neck gaiter, balaclavas etc.. I'm now unsure if the Naturehike down mummy sleeping bag I'm considering purchasing is going to be to restricted as a side sleeper.. 80cm wide.. Even more difficult when trying to keep things affordable..!
Understandable. 80cm is 31 1/2", which seems like it should be a fairly roomy bag. (63" circumference) I am hoping it works out for you, Naturehike is a good value brand. I own 2 pair of their down pants and love them. Hopefully, the fit is right, and you won't have to keep searching for a decent bag that fits your budget. Best of luck! Matt
Thank you.. I decided on the Naturehike CW400 and love it.. It's a rectangle shaped sleeping bag so there's plenty of room to move in it (though I'm not a big guy!) and can also unzip it fully to create a duvet..
Thank you so much! I was just sitting here wondering if viewers pick up on my "Dry humor" and now I'm assured at least one does! Thanks for your support! Take care, Matt
See, I never ever would have known that such an item even existed, had you not viewed, and commented on my channel. It's late now, if I start checking them out I might be up 'till 3 am. So, I'll check them out tomorrow, sounds very interesting. Thanks, Matt
Ok, I checked them out. I also learned more about neoprene than I did before, thank you for that! It also brought back a memory from 10 years ago when my son lent me a neoprene balaclava that looked just like the dive hoods. When he gets back from the mountains, I will ask him if he remembers what exactly it was. I remember it was very warm, and it makes total sense to me now why it would. Basically varying thicknesses of closed cell, fully waterproof, insulation. Does a dive suit trap all of your perspiration? I mean, when you take it off, is it wet inside? I would guess so, since neoprene is fully waterproof. That would keep your hood from collecting moisture in the down. My guess is that would be at least as warm as my expedition merino wool balaclavas, if not more so. Minus single digits F maybe? I remember having a mild panic attack trying to take it off lol!
@@mattsmountainmadness Yes, Matt - a neoprene dive hood would trap humidity derived from perspiration. The only thing with it might be to get used to putting it on and off, bcz of its snug fit... but that remains a matter of growing routine. Neoprene is quite flexible, so one could stretch the heck out of neoprene-made dive hood in the attempt to minimize any trouble wearing it.Furthermore, if worn at cool/cold temperatures, there would hardly be any sweating involved which, at times, could make it slightly challenging. What one could apply though is some talc on its inside to make it slide easily over skin and hair.
@@camouflage962 Right on. I could definitely see just getting used to the routine of taking it on and off would be like any other learning process, and the idea of only applying what is necessary for the temperature to minimize sweating, aligns with my practice of not using too much bag for the conditions so that I can sleep a little cool to ensure my bag is trapping as little moisture as possible. Thanks again!
I saw that the prices were really a great value for the warmth they provide. Reading up on neoprene, it holds up to all environmental degradation. Including UV rays. The 1 neoprene balaclava I tried was super warm.
my local camping shop try to tell me i need a four season down sleeping bag! i think they are a bunch of grifters! the down bag was only -6c and my mummy bag was -10c. man buying camping gear is hell because there are so many grifters!
I have had that chill down my backside. I turn from side to side within my bag. It is a pretty inefficient way to sleep in a mummy bag, but it is what I need to do to get sleep. That position leaves a pretty big air pocket in front and behind. Maybe bring a down jacket or sweater in the bag with you to take up that space that may or may not be there. That is what comes to mind. On colder nights I often bring a light jacket with me in the bag, and place it behind my back or around my knees. That has helped me at least a couple of times. I am not sure if this experience is helpful in your case. The other thing that comes to mind is making sure I have a good seal around my neck to keep drafts from coming into my bag. At the end of the day, side sleeping in a mummy bag is akin to trying to put a rectangular peg in an oval hole. Adjustments must be made. I wish I had more ideas for you. Hopefully what I shared helped. Thanks for watching and commenting on my channel! Matt
Unless the bag is a tight fit to where you are compressing the down, getting a semi-rectangular style bag would likely only make the cold spots worse due to increased dead air space.
👍 Thank you for the feedback. My video skills and editing skills are still rudimentary at this point. I will strive to improve production quality. I have been under the weather for some time. I wanted to get a video out and unfortunately, this was the best I could do. I hope you were able to get something out of the video, in spite of my amateur production work. Take care, Matt
.... however, be aware of blocking your ears when sleeping unprotected in areas where one should better remain awake... at least having one of a group watching out for any sort of potential threat by predetors or so... like on Baffin Island, or Alaska.... maybe in Montana ?
that keeps pretty warm, offering a snug fit, being sufficiently waterproof when applied outside water, I reckon
I reckon your right!
Very informative video, I like it despite the camera angle. I wonder if You ever tried, and if so, what you think about NEMO spoon shape bags? I'm a side slipper, and I'm looking for something comfortable but not a quilt.
You know, I have never tried a spoon bag. Looking at the design of them never made sense to me for the style of side sleeping I do. I favor the "can opener" position. I don't need the wide footbox, but I do need the most room for my top knee that when in position, falls at about mid thigh on the bag, which in the spoon bags seems to be right where they start necking down. I think that they would work great for someone who tends to run from the knee down at night. While that isn't me, it may work great for other side sleeping styles than mine. But, like I say, I've never tried one. I would like to hear feedback from those who have. Thanks for watching, and I will do a follow up video that better frames my demonstrations on this. Matt
HAhahah you're a trip dude- thanks for breaking down all the WM bags so well!
You betcha!
Thank you Matt for putting the video together. I was looking forward to this one. Actually last week, I was doing the same thing as you in this video. Rolling around on my living room floor in my existing sleeping bag, trying to see if I could move around inside it rather than the bag moving with me. I found, albeit a difficult way, of moving around inside my current bag, but then I found the issue of having my face stick straight into the side hood like you showed. Glad you also showed in there are ways around this, that being a down hood and neck gaiter. I decided to sell my current winter bag and will likely get an overfilled WM Kodiak, and then maybe a make a Climashield blanket and take that on extra cold nights.
Wow, that sounds great! One thing that I forgot to say when I half-jokingly said "You're going to die of hypoxia" breathing into your hood. In actuality, they say there is very little chance of that happening in a sleeping bag. Breathing into a sealed hood of a Gore Windstopper bag, however, could quickly create a dangerous situation. Especially at altitude. I've been really under the weather for weeks and wanted to get this out sooner with better camera work etc. But, hopefully the just of my solutions were evident. I told you I was going to do this one next and I really wanted to deliver on my claim. So, thanks a lot for your viewership and please let me know if you could how this develops for you. Take care, Matt
I don't recall if you were aware that if you order your Kodiak through Hermit's Hut, you will get the overfill for free. It will be custom built with overfill added. My son and I have purchased several bags this way. It's a better value if you are willing to wait a few weeks to receive it.
@@mattsmountainmadness I'm in no rush and I did see that Hermits Hut provides that service. There is a local dealer here that is willing to give me 15% off the total price of a bag, so when the time comes to purchase, I'll have to make a comparison on price.
Sounds like an equitable offer!
Good information! Although the camera could've been positioned a little better thanks for all the accessories information. I now know for sure as a side sleeper that I won't be purchasing a mummy style bag.
Ya, the framing in this video is horrible. I want to remake this video soon, as there are many things that could have been better about it. I am glad you were able to get something out of it though. Thanks for watching! Matt
Love your videos and great info on your WM sleeping bags. Thank you, Matt! I am looking forward to the remake of this video with the angle adjustments, so everything you are explaining and demonstrating is easy to see completely. I really want to try out each of your sleeping bags and winter camp with you in the harshest snowy settings,too. I just don't have the money for the proper gear just yet, but I imagine someday I will.
@@nathankalana8616 Right on my friend, I will be taking you guys there in just a few months. I got my channel started a little late last year, but am gearing up for the best cold camping season ever in a few short months! Good luck in your ongoing gear acquisition and thanks for tuning in to my channel, Matt
Great tips, thank you.. Neck gaiter, balaclavas etc.. I'm now unsure if the Naturehike down mummy sleeping bag I'm considering purchasing is going to be to restricted as a side sleeper.. 80cm wide.. Even more difficult when trying to keep things affordable..!
Understandable. 80cm is 31 1/2", which seems like it should be a fairly roomy bag. (63" circumference) I am hoping it works out for you, Naturehike is a good value brand. I own 2 pair of their down pants and love them.
Hopefully, the fit is right, and you won't have to keep searching for a decent bag that fits your budget. Best of luck! Matt
Thank you.. I decided on the Naturehike CW400 and love it.. It's a rectangle shaped sleeping bag so there's plenty of room to move in it (though I'm not a big guy!) and can also unzip it fully to create a duvet..
This was so good! I'm glad I've subscribed... you're one funny guy! 🙂
Thank you so much! I was just sitting here wondering if viewers pick up on my "Dry humor" and now I'm assured at least one does! Thanks for your support! Take care, Matt
Make that "two"....😅
I am a diving instructor and qualified to confirm that those diving hoods are meant to be applied preventing excessive heat loss ... try one out....
See, I never ever would have known that such an item even existed, had you not viewed, and commented on my channel. It's late now, if I start checking them out I might be up 'till 3 am. So, I'll check them out tomorrow, sounds very interesting. Thanks, Matt
How cold do you think they would be effective to - air temperature wise? Are we talking 35 degrees F, just below freezing or say -20?
Ok, I checked them out. I also learned more about neoprene than I did before, thank you for that! It also brought back a memory from 10 years ago when my son lent me a neoprene balaclava that looked just like the dive hoods. When he gets back from the mountains, I will ask him if he remembers what exactly it was. I remember it was very warm, and it makes total sense to me now why it would. Basically varying thicknesses of closed cell, fully waterproof, insulation. Does a dive suit trap all of your perspiration? I mean, when you take it off, is it wet inside? I would guess so, since neoprene is fully waterproof. That would keep your hood from collecting moisture in the down. My guess is that would be at least as warm as my expedition merino wool balaclavas, if not more so. Minus single digits F maybe? I remember having a mild panic attack trying to take it off lol!
@@mattsmountainmadness Yes, Matt - a neoprene dive hood would trap humidity derived from perspiration. The only thing with it might be to get used to putting it on and off, bcz of its snug fit... but that remains a matter of growing routine. Neoprene is quite flexible, so one could stretch the heck out of neoprene-made dive hood in the attempt to minimize any trouble wearing it.Furthermore, if worn at cool/cold temperatures, there would hardly be any sweating involved which, at times, could make it slightly challenging. What one could apply though is some talc on its inside to make it slide easily over skin and hair.
@@camouflage962 Right on. I could definitely see just getting used to the routine of taking it on and off would be like any other learning process, and the idea of only applying what is necessary for the temperature to minimize sweating, aligns with my practice of not using too much bag for the conditions so that I can sleep a little cool to ensure my bag is trapping as little moisture as possible. Thanks again!
My dude i love your sleeping bag bro i lkve it alot the bigger the thicker the better
Couldn't have said it more clearly myself! Thanks for watching! Matt
Np my dude@@mattsmountainmadness
hey, thx - great instructional video
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching! Matt
Thank you so much.
You are so welcome! Thank you for watching 👀! Matt
... and it could be purchased at a very reasonable price...
I saw that the prices were really a great value for the warmth they provide. Reading up on neoprene, it holds up to all environmental degradation. Including UV rays. The 1 neoprene balaclava I tried was super warm.
what about a diving hood ?
For me, I think I'd need to whack a couple feet of hair first, to make it feasible!
my local camping shop try to tell me i need a four season down sleeping bag! i think they are a bunch of grifters!
the down bag was only -6c and my mummy bag was -10c. man buying camping gear is hell because there are so many grifters!
@SuperEarther There are too many sleeping bag manufacturers out there, and they all want you to buy theirs.
@@mattsmountainmadness yeah its a mine field
been trying my mummy bag and always have a cold spot on my back no matter what side i sleep on. any ideas?
I have had that chill down my backside. I turn from side to side within my bag. It is a pretty inefficient way to sleep in a mummy bag, but it is what I need to do to get sleep. That position leaves a pretty big air pocket in front and behind. Maybe bring a down jacket or sweater in the bag with you to take up that space that may or may not be there. That is what comes to mind. On colder nights I often bring a light jacket with me in the bag, and place it behind my back or around my knees. That has helped me at least a couple of times. I am not sure if this experience is helpful in your case. The other thing that comes to mind is making sure I have a good seal around my neck to keep drafts from coming into my bag. At the end of the day, side sleeping in a mummy bag is akin to trying to put a rectangular peg in an oval hole. Adjustments must be made. I wish I had more ideas for you. Hopefully what I shared helped. Thanks for watching and commenting on my channel! Matt
@@mattsmountainmadness will try these thanks! maybe a mummy bag is wrong for me and i should try a different sleeping bag?
Unless the bag is a tight fit to where you are compressing the down, getting a semi-rectangular style bag would likely only make the cold spots worse due to increased dead air space.
@@mattsmountainmadness thanks!
it would help if i could see the bag you have the camara pointing up too high 😒
👍 Thank you for the feedback. My video skills and editing skills are still rudimentary at this point. I will strive to improve production quality. I have been under the weather for some time. I wanted to get a video out and unfortunately, this was the best I could do. I hope you were able to get something out of the video, in spite of my amateur production work. Take care, Matt
I hope you are doing better and no worries about video perfection. I think we all got several tips from your fun video!
.... however, be aware of blocking your ears when sleeping unprotected in areas where one should better remain awake... at least having one of a group watching out for any sort of potential threat by predetors or so... like on Baffin Island, or Alaska.... maybe in Montana ?
Prudent advice right there.