2023 Mazda 6 20th Anniversary Review | Drive.com.au

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  • @leemace9638
    @leemace9638 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I’d rather the Mazda station wagon over any Mazda SUV 👍🇦🇺

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sadly you are in the minority. The wagon accounts for 30% of Mazda 6 sales - that's less than 200 units so far this year, against nearly 8000 CX-5s. Such a pity as this a really good looking car and lovely to drive.

    • @GlowingTube
      @GlowingTube ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The vast majority don’t want a low riding long vehicle, the sales of the CX5 are orders of magnitude higher. I really like the 6, unfortunately these days it’s a niche offering that is unlikely to be replaced due to poor sales.

    • @JacksonGrant
      @JacksonGrant ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually know a lot of people who prefer wagons as a family car that handles better, costs less to purchase and run, is safer and looks better than SUVs. But alas, the smart value conscious buyers usually buy second hand cars and therefore the market is controlled by the others.

    • @bencemervay
      @bencemervay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We have just bought a used Mazda 6 wagon. I really like it.

  • @alexanderswagin9618
    @alexanderswagin9618 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hi all. From a Mazda 3 skyactiv x owner and having had a close look at two examples of the current Mazda 6 wagon I am on the same page as the reviewer. Excellent quality, a well laid out interior, infotainment doesn’t need touch screen. Apart from being cleaner, much safer on the move and far less distracting. Concentrate on the road, anything else is dangerous, the cause of a lot of accidents. Complain all you like about the price, but very little else will have the ambience and quality. Anything cheaper will look cheap. A lot of modern German cars definitely don’t have the built from solid materials feel anymore never mind the confusing sub-menus and haptic buttons with no feedback. Mazda keeps it simple, elegant and easy to access. As for the Korean products, woeful interiors, too much piano black and poor reliability long term( check out how many recalls for Kia/Hyundai overseas). Sorry, Japanese made only.

  • @ATLcentury334
    @ATLcentury334 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Mazda6 wagon is stunning. Here in the U.S., wagons are scarce as hens teeth. I wish there was some way we could import one but we know that’s impossible. We own a 2015 Mazda6, people are still asking us what kind of car is it because it’s so beautiful. Not everyone wants a TRUCK!

  • @ericokompatzki7110
    @ericokompatzki7110 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Honestly, the fact it doesn't have a power tailgate is a plus in my book

  • @disruptioninworldcommunica4857
    @disruptioninworldcommunica4857 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I don't get it. What is wrong with all the car reviewers. Do they not actually drive cars? What exactly do you need in an infotainment system that Mazda does not have? Do you want to play Farmville on it or something while driving? It has Android Auto and Apple Carplay if you need that.
    Mazda's approach is both aesthetically pleasing (no fugly ipad sticking out of the dash) and ergonomically perfect. The central controller with it's rotary dial and buttons is literally far superior to any touch screens, especially when driving. What are the most common tasks you would use infotainment during a drive? Changing music or radio stations, maybe dialing a phone and looking at navigation. Mazda's system excels in all of those things. I can scroll through my hundreds of music folders and playlists on USB on highway speeds or in city traffic without being a driving hazard. Literally impossible with touch screen only. I can also switch to phone and scroll through my phone contacts list with ease without ever changing my position - all with the buttons at the tip of my fingers and the controller. Or I can switch to message apps to look incoming messages. All without taking my eyes off the road or having to lean forward to touch the screen.
    There's a reason this system originated from premium driving oriented brands like BMW and Alfa. And guess what, the new 300k $ Aston Martin SUV does not have a touch screen either because it has the central controller. And apps like Waze lock themselves anyway when you're driving so you can't fiddle with them during driving either.

    • @EnShinNoi
      @EnShinNoi ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It has kind of reached a point of ridiculousness. Shopping for a car based on its infotainment screen would be like shopping for a mobile phone based on how well it flew through the air...

    • @YoureNowOnTV
      @YoureNowOnTV ปีที่แล้ว +8

      After reading these two comments my faith in humanity is restored. It’s a car not your living room with a 75” tv. Tired of reviewers doing what other reviewers do. Please review the car as it is to drive (The main reason we need one in the first place) then the rest later not the other way around.

  • @trancenut81
    @trancenut81 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Still looks great especially the Wagon. SUV practicality and sedan driving comfort.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely wagons for the win!

    • @thegreatwhitehonky
      @thegreatwhitehonky ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I ahve a 2016 wagon, love it wouod buy another one - a passat wagon R will be about 75k drive away. Tiny bit faster with a lot less features

  • @stevecovey1758
    @stevecovey1758 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm sold! I would buy two of them if Mazda would bring them to the United States!

  • @raedmohdhasan1285
    @raedmohdhasan1285 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    mazda 6 its a sweet heart. I bought three new mazda 6 model 2008,2011 2016 used 6 months as new and a 2020 and I must say all of them were great cars but 2020 was the best to drive and handle .Mazda6 despite being 10 year old car still looks better than Accord,Camry or Altima and the way it drives nd handles non of the mentioned do and will ever . Mazda6 is best of the lot but I feel sad in 20 years it does not sell in numbers as its competitors.

  • @poovaneswaransupramaniam19
    @poovaneswaransupramaniam19 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lovely review of the 2023 Mazda 6 touring...still love our 2016 Mazda 6 touring 2.5 na....in Malaysia..... definitely feels great driving the car, even after all these years.... greetings from Malaysia

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to hear you're enjoying your Mazda 6.

  • @_saifr
    @_saifr ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good looking cars inside and out. Love the wagon.

  • @abshassan
    @abshassan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got a dealer demo wagon, can save a lot of money. I got a 2022 Atenza with 6000km, and it was $44k; that's a $15k savings from new :)

  • @stephenwhitworth7701
    @stephenwhitworth7701 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great review and as someone that drives an Alfa 159 wagon, it's the one that gets admiring glances from me - it's a great piece of design and destined to be a modern classic.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That 159 wagon is an artwork though. One of the best - James

  • @froggy0162
    @froggy0162 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    All praise the wagon! Everything that’s not another fecking dumb suv gets my vote!!

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's such a good looking car too - even ten years on.

  • @JoelOman1980
    @JoelOman1980 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep. Exactly for this reason I got the MX-5 in 2022 (also, grown up kids, yadda yadda). I want a car to drive, not a car that drives me. Making the trip into part of the experience, even on my daily commute, not just getting from point A to point B. Cheers Mazda! Keep making cars for drivers!

  • @steveberdeaux3580
    @steveberdeaux3580 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We have an older a Mazda 6 with v6 2003 we really enjoy this car. As they said back then zoom zoom very true statement.

  • @johnsiew7039
    @johnsiew7039 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I still own the first generation GJ bought in 2013 when it first came out. It still drives well and has zero internal squeaks compared to my 2017 Merc W205 C300,. The interior of the C300 squeaks like a rat when it goes on rough surfaces.

    • @marlonbaird6070
      @marlonbaird6070 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah those mercs plastics are all made at the Geely factory in China

  • @peterjansen7854
    @peterjansen7854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pick mine up this friday, cant wait in Perth WA

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope you enjoy it! Once you've had it a while why not let us know your thoughts and leave an owner review at www.drive.com.au/submit-owner-car-review/

  • @YoureNowOnTV
    @YoureNowOnTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish car reviewers used a measuring tape for boots instead of volume. Volume means nothing if you are looking for info on how wide, long and high a useable space is. You don’t measure a room in litres so why measure that way in a car. It’s just a number on a manufacturers specification sheet.

  • @stendecstretcher5678
    @stendecstretcher5678 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent review. It was either a Sportage or Mazda 6. Looks like the Mazda 6 after watching this.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both are great cars - Sportage wins on tech, but that Mazda is just a lovely car to drive!

  • @aus_life
    @aus_life ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Electronic tailgate could be due to chip shortage. Would be nice if they used the infotainment from the Mazda 3 etc.
    What do you get? Good driving, high quality and reliability, reliability, reliability.
    What’s the saying, once you’ve had Mazda, you never go back.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's it! Mazda note they have very high customer retention and it is easy to see why. I'd forgive the boot if they put the media system in from the CX-30 - surely that wouldn't have been too hard! James

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The car isn't engineered for an electric tail gate. It wasn't a thing for Mazda in 2012, when the first iteration of this car hit the road. The cost to put it on the platform now wouldn't make sense. It is the same reason the car has a generation older touch screen setup. Frankly I was surprised they put the turbo motor in it in the last refresh in 2018. What they have done is refine everything on the car since its launch and its now one of the most, if not the most polished car Mazda builds. Everything works and everything is going to last a long time. It is a fantastic long termer.

  • @napoleonnz
    @napoleonnz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If they called it a hatchback instead of a wagon they'd double their sales overnight!

  • @josephpereira1390
    @josephpereira1390 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you can get a second hand mazda 6, i think you get the most value. I bought a 2018 mazda 6 wagon turbo for 26k.. its really similar to the one here for half the price.. i extended the mazda warranty on it too to cover servicing. Very happy!

  • @lilyofthevalley8960
    @lilyofthevalley8960 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you put a bike easily in the wagon?

    • @davidliang7855
      @davidliang7855 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The boot is not long enough to do it without back seats down. Only the size like rs6 can do that.

    • @kevindanenberg
      @kevindanenberg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My bike fits in my 6 sedan with the larger back seat down. Just need to take the front wheel off. A little awkward to maneuver it in, but it works. I would LOVE the wagon! Alas, I am in the US.

  • @sjh4803
    @sjh4803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are the front seats comfortable for a long drive? How long is the thigh support compared to say a BMW3 ? Can you retro fit a full size spare ? These will be the deal breakers rather than no auto boot etc

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! Good support and good driving position. They don't have adjustable thigh support like a BMW though. Putting a full size spare may not be possible due to the size of the 19-inch wheels, but a space saver is far better than a can of goo or a 13-000 number.

    • @sjh4803
      @sjh4803 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Drivecomau Space saver usless on Sunday night half way between Jindabyne and Cooma, that isnt getting you home.

    • @alphillips5478
      @alphillips5478 ปีที่แล้ว

      Useless?
      How so?@@sjh4803

  • @noelsaw
    @noelsaw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish we had this in U.S.

  • @Rally4Life1982
    @Rally4Life1982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The downside of a wagon is its length. Although this isn't that bad. I draw a line at about 4800mm.

    • @alphillips5478
      @alphillips5478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well you didnt listen
      The WAGON is actually SHORTER than the sedan!

  • @matt3312
    @matt3312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    James fair review but I do think youre being picky about the tailgate which is hardly a dealbreaker. The size of the infotainment screen is actually quite large enough and the rotary wheel dial is very easy to use when the car is in motion compared to a touch screen - by far!!
    I've just taken delivery of a new 20th Anniv Sedan in Rhodium White which is just gorgeous and I'm absolutely loving driving it .... i was never a Mazda fan before it and the car along with the customer service at Ringwood Mazda have made it a simply fabulous experience compared to the succession of Honda's I've had for the last 15 years!

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha, agreed it was being picky but a power boot would just be a nice touch this far into the car's life. I regularly have bags or boxes in both hands and can't live without the kicker/powered tail on the X3. I'm thinking of others like me :)
      Agree the screen itself is nice, but when you see what the system in the CX-30 looks like, you just feel that Mazda could have ported that across. Congrats on the purchase - Mazda had a white 20th Anniv sedan at the launch and it looked fantastic!
      James

    • @alphillips5478
      @alphillips5478 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree - capacitive screen touch is MUCH QUICKER

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ....yes James, you are being picky. An electronic tailgate means more weight and thats a problem with modern cars. They have become heavier and the gains in fuel efficiency is stiffled by more copper and steal.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah... but not that much weight :) The convenience in a wagon when dealing with school bags and shopping etc far outweighs any mass metrics.

    • @1969cmp
      @1969cmp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Drivecomau ...but, this trinket plus that trinket as well as this and that one and over time 150kgs of weight has been added. How much does a modern Corolla weight v an early 80s Falcon.

    • @НиколаГеоргиев-ш2б
      @НиколаГеоргиев-ш2б ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Besides, the mechanical one will surely last way longer (important for second-hand buyers).

  • @eurekasimplywellness
    @eurekasimplywellness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 always my favourite of mazda

  • @d.j.z.j
    @d.j.z.j ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it compare to skoda wagons? Similar price point?

  • @cat_luver16
    @cat_luver16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish they had this in the US

  • @d.j.z.j
    @d.j.z.j ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice but are they still up tpdate info wise compared to everything new. Hmmm i have the 2009 mazda 6 luxury

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has everythign you need and if you can live without the turbo and fancy wheels the Touring Wagon makes a big argument for itself when it comes to value and has a slightly smoother ride too. Especially as most Mazda 6 wagons imported are the Touring trim level, so you will find Mazda have the most stock of them and you might also pick up a demonstrator.

  • @aswinelberts1555
    @aswinelberts1555 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I drive one 2022 model in the Netherlands

  • @bryanmurphy3328
    @bryanmurphy3328 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice car. Can't wait for the next model. Should be a knock-out.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here's hoping we see another anniversary milestone for the '6!

  •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that the Mazda doesn’t have electric boot. I hate that option… it takes so long to open and close. And apple CarPlay works perfect with the buttons around the knob. You press music goes to music, you press map goes to map…

  • @alphillips5478
    @alphillips5478 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought you were a bit ''hard''.
    I have a 2014 Mazda6 wagon
    I NEVER use the Infotainment ''Dial "" - NEVER
    Its a ''gimmick'' borrowed from BMW
    Screen is capacitive and its much quicker/simpler to use.
    Screen SHOULD be bigger in the 2023 version - agreed as should tail-gate auto-lift
    Wish current speed indicator was a DIGITAL NUMBER displayed
    I love my Mazda - its RELABLE, handles like a small car, brakes ''on a dime'' (well almost) and gets great fuel economy!
    Im hoping for ALL ELECTRIC version and 1000Nm of torque! POW!

  • @Hsiaonick
    @Hsiaonick ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG~the conclusion was marvelous~

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! Thanks for that, James is gun

  • @jldkrank
    @jldkrank ปีที่แล้ว

    If they add the i6 turbo from the cx 90 I'd buy one tomorrow

  • @rorymorunga5573
    @rorymorunga5573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely agree with the tailgate comment my 2019 CX5 has an electric tailgate so doesnt make sense that a 2023 model wagon cant have that.

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer ปีที่แล้ว

      Your cars hard points weren't settled in 2012.

  • @GlowingTube
    @GlowingTube ปีที่แล้ว

    It still looks good even though it’s over 10 years old. Unfortunately at the asking prices the vast majority of buyers are preferring an SUV. Sure the enthusiasts will bemoan how SUVs dynamics are worse and how the shift to SUVs is all wrong. The majority don’t care about dynamics in the highly regulated road system they want height, ground clearance for kerbs, driveways and speed humps and the practical upright and short form factor.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spot on. The fact you can go dollar-for-dollar into a CX-5 says why the SUV has more than 10x the sales of the 6 (7949 to 623 YTD sales)

  • @JeremyGeduldt
    @JeremyGeduldt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Mazda 6 Tourer Stationwagen Audi RS8 Avant Stationwagon doesnt even come close to an SUVs boot capacity that is just Sporty Stationwagons that go fast .

  • @thegreatwhitehonky
    @thegreatwhitehonky ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally disagree with you negative comments on the mapping system. As someone who's constantly racing around the city to multiple addresses the wheel function for navigating the maps or radio is a breeze. I drove a VW golf what a nightmare trying to enyre an address. You literly have to stop and enter an address.

  • @d.j.z.j
    @d.j.z.j ปีที่แล้ว

    9 l is thirsty per 100 km. What is it like extra urban? 11 l per km?

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I live in Tassie and we have the non turbo model of this car and engine. Around town we are 8.3 and on the highway around 6.2. Turbos are a little more thirsty so add a litre to each of those figures if you have a light foot. Problem with the turbo is you tend to drive it harder and that of course, pushes the fuel consumption up. The non turbo prefers to be driven more sedately and also has cylinder deactivation which the turbo doesnt.

  • @d.j.z.j
    @d.j.z.j ปีที่แล้ว

    Dash still analog?

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The dash is a combination if 7.0-inch main digital display in the instrument cluster with analog gauges for the tacho, fuel and temperature dials.

  • @guntureprasetyo6103
    @guntureprasetyo6103 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review and comfort a car

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! It is indeed a comfortable car.

  • @Arokisme
    @Arokisme 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you sell secondhand unit of mazda 6 elite estate wagon 20th anniversary? Pm me sir, thanks

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can search new and used cars for sale at www.drive.com.au/marketplace to find Mazda 6 wagons available from dealers near you.

  • @glenn6661
    @glenn6661 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought one recently- 23 Atenza wagon, Had a fault causing vibration at speed since new, took it back in 5 days after delivery, they couldn't fix it. Took it back in again before the monthly inspection. Has been at the dealers service dept for more than 5 weeks now. Their mechanics couldn't fix it, escalated to a technician from Mazda, couldn't fix it. Escalated to a specialist technician, still trying to work out what is causing the defect. They have ignored my requests to exercise my ACL rights to replacement or refund. I don't wish this on anyone. Really let down with Mazda, had higher expectations.

  • @JeremyGeduldt
    @JeremyGeduldt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2003-2008 first generation Mazda 6 second generation 2008-2013 third generation 2013-2023 facelifted 2019 or perhaps earlier the 4th generation Mazda 6 should arrive down under 2025 than to Britain & Europe it should return To South Africa by the end of 2025 .

  • @karentiger5117
    @karentiger5117 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to put a naturally aspirated 6 cylinder with turbo if possible

  • @TenzWang88
    @TenzWang88 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes, still no update on best selling cx5 is very stupid business strategy of Mazda.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว

      The CX-5 was given a refresh in late 2022 so still a bit early to expect any news of a subsequent update. We expect it'll get it's annual model year adjustment in late 2023 at this stage.

  • @yunghanhuang8188
    @yunghanhuang8188 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taiwan has NA but turbo

  • @marlonbaird6070
    @marlonbaird6070 ปีที่แล้ว

    My problem with mazda is their fuel consumption in all their cars but yet brilliant

  • @JeremyGeduldt
    @JeremyGeduldt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mazda Estate Vauxhall Insignia Estate wow Mazda 6 Estate is cheaper than sedan .

  • @automtr
    @automtr ปีที่แล้ว

    That shade of red oof. This is the only car I would trade in my 2019 Atenza Wagon for lol
    Thou I like my interior dark choc brown better than this lighter brown.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really is a lovely colour. Paired with the tan interior the 20th Anniv is a ripper spec. The GT SP still represents the best value though - pity you have to take it with all the black trim.

  • @perpetualgrin5804
    @perpetualgrin5804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm used to ancient Aussie sixes, this car left me disappointed. Often on the highway the larger engine will be more economical and more pleasant behind.

    • @1969cmp
      @1969cmp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 2015 Kia Optima. A very good highway cruiser and no problems taking over road trains on the Stuart Highway which I have driven in an AU3 SR Falcon and a 2007 DB2 380SX. All good cruisers. I'm surprised that the 6 wouldn't also be a suitable vehicle for the Aussie highways. If I wasn't planning on replacing the Optima with a ute or SUV, a Camry or 6 would be my target cars.

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm. I've had eight and six cylinder Falcons and have a VF SS Commodore in the garage too. Never felt the 6 was underpowered for highway work and we have the non turbo model. Its a four so knock it down a couple of gears if you need to. The car has manual shift, sport mode and paddles, so its not a big chore to do and the car will pick up its skirt and go fine for overtaking.

  • @greensabr200
    @greensabr200 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jealous from the US

  • @djizzah
    @djizzah ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, $60,000 for someting straight out of 2013 is stupid, so many better options for your money than this dinosaur, why is he being so polite about the infotainment, its a dog

    • @micko9097
      @micko9097 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If you're that worried about infotainment while you're driving, maybe you should just stay in your mother's basement on your preferred gaming console and keep yourself and every other motorist safe.

    • @Drivecomau
      @Drivecomau  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair, they have refined the car significantly from when it was launched (the interior is totally different) but it is still old. However as Arnie said in one of those Terminator sequels, "old, not obsolete" . The '6 is still a lovely car to drive, I only wish Mazda had fixed some things to bring it in line with other Mazdas - just adding the infotainment widescreen from the CX-30 would have been enough. But it's not the be-all and end-all of the car. There are enough features of the system to keep you happy, especially if you ignore CarPlay and just use MZD direct.

    • @GlowingTube
      @GlowingTube ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you play mine craft on it?

    • @d.j.z.j
      @d.j.z.j ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree

    • @alphillips5478
      @alphillips5478 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont know what youve been smoking but these ''issues'' - mainly the infotainment system are minor in the scheme of things
      And your statement about being ''straight out of 2013'' is dumb and inaccurate - you too Drivecomau if thats what you implied