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I'm pretty sure the only difference between red black and cobalt is power output, and the nominal choice to choose lesser chips up to the cobalt with arbitrary marginal upcharges for profit and none gets your more features. It's only selling point is MQA and even then MQA is not good.
@Vittoria and for replying to an 8 months old comment you win: the audioquest USB sticks are overpriced garbage in 2022 and no one should buy one with all the options we have available for competing price ranges across all varieties which may or may not also include Bluetooth 5.1 and/or batteries to save ones mobile device. Again: 280 and below. These are dated. Given they sell magical snake oil cables it's no wonder.
Me too: Z review of the Onyx. Personally, I wanted to A/B compare the THX Onyx with others in the category. But. Here in Sydney there was no store that stocked both. Based on the rave reviews from: Z/Josh/dms/whatever the name of The Headphone Show guy is - on the massdrop THX Amp(s). I took a punt - remember the mantra in Risky Business? - and bought the THX Onyx sight unseen. (And this was before the mqa thread blow up). Anyway the Onyx Does exactly what I wanted it to. More "oomph" - like WAY more - for my LCD-X's - driven off a 2013 Mac Pro.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez you listened to music using both dragonfly devices and also used the BTR5 as a usb DAC with the same type of music in the same format using the same headphones? That is commendably thorough of you, good job.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez The Dragonfly red sounds better than the Quedlix 5k too (same DAC). Wired pushes it closer but nothing can beat LDAC for portability outside as USB C is crud for holding data signal in the pocket. Constantly falling out. Oh and my red has a dodgy 3.5mm socket they wanted nothing to do with to fix. I dropped it ONCE and it only works now when I hold the 3.5mm socket to the side... so yeah there's that Not to mention the Android phones with the dragonfly DACs do not play ball. They send the full upscaled version to the Dragonfly so gives it no choice but to play what it is given, which is hissy with Spotify say. The BTR5 and 5K both seem to work fine with the dedicated apps
I have the cobalt and the BTR5 and i use the BTR5 in 4 of 5 cases. Does the BTR5 sound as good as the cobalt... no! But the difference is not big enough for me compared to the convenience the Fiio offers.
Wait.. so Im a getting this correctly. He says Cobalt sounds as a good desktop amp in 500 dollar range. But then complains cobalt is too expensive despite also being really tiny and portable.
Damn. I ordered this 12 hours before Z’s review. Still, didn’t disappoint. It’s great. No, it’s amazing, if you don’t mind the “lack” of features at this price. Sounds just like a desktop amp and its compact form just works . I had some serious QC issues with xDuoo in the past (TA01B particularly) so I don’t see me buying their products in the future.
THX Onyx (for hard-to-drive headphones), Apple lightning adapter for regular headphones on iphone, sonata-HD for regular headphones on Android Apple lightning adapter powers my DT1990 pro just fine (but I don't listen at crazy volume)
@@ophiuchia4916 I’m powering the DT-1990’s on the Cobalt, and they sound easily better than the lighting dongle. But damn, didn’t know about the THX Onyx, I really feel stupid buying the Cobalt after knowing about it. Definitely returning it.
The absolute best dongle DAC at the moment is the Luxury & Precision W2. It's also $299 but it's got Balanced and unbalanced output, EQ, tuning filters, dual DAC and much higher and cleaner power output. Review it!
@@ar_xiv yep, it really is. The Cobalt by contrast is less than a joke for its price, it's an insult frankly. I've had 2 pairs physically break on me within 4 weeks. I gave up and got myself a E1DA 9038S gen 2 for $89. Beats it every category.
As a Cobalt owner, I have to say I'm perfectly happy with it, and I don't actually want an extra volume control on it personally since I've found it's easier to use it across multiple devices since each device will remember the appropriate volume level for it and then I don't have to mess with the volume every time I switch devices. Also, the reason the color indicator on it was "wrong" is because Android always resamples audio, no matter what the original source format is unless you specifically bypass the built-in audio stack.
I keep finding that comment everywhere, but... How? My Dragonfly Black processes the signal correctly, without additional software. On PC I tested it out with just random electrical noise at different sampling rates, and it indicates correctly. Same on phone. Playing directly through Android, green for CD, blue for 48, and so on, up to purple for MQA
@@mariozenarju6461 If your app has a built in separate USB stack, it can bypass the Android audio stack. That's what apps like USB Audio Player Pro do. I do think that it is possible that Tidal had now actually implemented this functionality, too, since it prompted me for direct device access the last time I plugged a DAC/Amp directly into my phone. But, at the time I wrote this comment it definitely wasn't the case.
It's a great sounding unit. If that's all you need, then it's worth it. Just make sure you install USB Audio Player Pro to get the full resolution of files.
I keep finding that recommendation everywhere, but... Why? My Dragonfly Black processes the signal correctly, without additional software. On PC I tested it out with just random electrical noise at different sampling rates, and it indicates correctly. Same on phone. Playing directly through Android, green for CD, blue for 48, and so on, up to purple for MQA, without USB Audio Player
@@mariozenarju6461 because android driver resamples audio by default and that cannot be turned off until you completely bypass the android audio driver. only UAPP and Neutron music Player do this as far as I know.
Audioquest products are tailor made for people that hate money and have too much of it. If you're in that camp, might I suggest you go with something like the Hidizs S9 or E1DA 9038D or Tempotec Sonata Hd Pro, or Spectra X, or Qudelix 5K, or ..., and give your extra $100-200 to like Red Cross, World Central Kitchen, local food bank, pet adoption, or whatever you favorite charity is? You'll actually get a better product for less money and help someone in need.
I love my cobalt and I don't care what people say MQA has a warmer fuller sound. I proved this blind testing with my friend. 8/10 songs I rathered the MQA. Also my Cobalt sounds a lot better than my Hidiz's dongle. Somethings can't be quantified, I personally believe MQA properly unfolded allows better clock timing than normal folders. So you don't need a device with a independent jitter clock or at least not a high quality one.
I bought one and sent it back. It tried to deafen me three times (for some reason it defaults to full volume), and honestly I couldn’t tell the difference over my iPhone 12 dac dongle thing
the $9 Apple dongle is very, very underrated. features a built-in DAC and supports up to 24/48. Belkin also makes one but they charge $39. cannot imagine paying anywhere near the prices of the Cobalt blue, black or red when there is one available for $9 from Apple.
You have to use usb audio player pro on Android to get bit perfect output otherwise android resamples it before it goes out. That's why the light wasent showing the right colors.
@@erikybarra3898 It's paid but it's not really that expensive and is one of the best Android players for sound quality. Recommended for DAPs and phones with decent dac chips inside.
Shanling UA2, Hidizs S9, E1DA 9038D/S... all have f*ck ton of power and under 100 bucks. And IMO better than most Dragonflys (red, cobalt, black) even at 1/3 of the price edit: all of them also has balanced options!
@@Starstreak170 All measurements of these dacs are below audio threshold. Saying that one dac is better because its has a snr of 130 while another has 110 is objectively and provably false. Things like dynamic range cannot be measured, and those are the things that change the most with a better dac. Go and look at Currawong video he did on measurements if you are someone that isn't part of a cult that doesn't want to hear another perspective (you probably won't though because your perspective so paper thin that any critique on tit would cause it to collapse).
Is Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt compatible with Grado Labs SR80e? Just making sure before I make a purchase because other people complain about hearing lots of hiss, pops and clicks.
How do you expect him to hear sound coming from the dragonfly if the phone "isn't using it"? Do you mean that Android is doing processing of its own? Yeah, but it still uses it.
@@dapperbrick7516 The Dragonfly is receiving a digital signal, but Android hijacks the source file's digital signal and converts everything it outputs via the USB to 44/16. USB Audio Player Pro App disables Android and outputs the file in whatever format it is stored in 96/24, 192/24 etc.
Really don't understand this shit about "more features" over just having better sound quality. Why buy a dac if the sound improvement is not pretty much 100% of your concern. Plenty of $20 converters that will input single by optical or usb, or just use your laptop. This idea that equipment that is designed to improve reproduction of music should be given a weighted score even close to what "features" it has is laughable. I heard this thing somewhat recently, and it honestly makes all the Chines dac/amps ive heard around this price point sound so artificial and clinical. Whether that is worth $300 for one connectivity is your choice, but I am happy that there are dac amps in this price point that dont sound as dull and flat like the d50 or su-9.
Subscribed the other day and was hoping you'd review this bad boy! I'm in the market for one but I'm looking for the best. Could you recommend me your top three that you've reviewed in the $0-$500 price range?
Had one for a day, years ago now. Sent it back as it did strange things to Dragonborn, my test track, well, one of them. I bought it as I still have a Dragonfly black. Plugged into my PC with my ELEX hanging off it. Though yes, at €300 I was expecting much more than I got.
I bought this product and I think it was under powered so I sent it back.. why would anyone buy this when you can get the FiiO BTR5 for half the price and it sounds better
It just makes everyone confused. Probably, Amir is looking for faults no one ears and Z is listening to the earphone quality because... Probably a DAC actually makes little difference on audio performance 🤔
I own one and think it sounds great. It sounds better than the Zorloo (which I also own) that Amir measured as better than the Audioquest. Trust your ears!
@@andycrook6508 well, Amir was explaining something about the inability to drive a low impedance headphone. Witch makes sense. But, then again, if we don't listen at high volumes, it doesn't matter...
Audio products with fewer buttons, screens and wireless doohickeys secretly appeal to me more. There are 3 reasons I can think of for this. 1) Makes me question if this is a product aimed at the mass market rather than audio quality being a priority at all. 2) Money spent on the "features" could have been spent improving the audio quality instead. 3) Could the extras actually be sources of electrical interference and be reducing the sound quality compared to the identical device without them? First thing I do with a new audio toy is to switch off every wireless feature I can find and connect using cables only. Ok, there are my reasons they might not be the most rational reasons ever, but there they are.
no it isnt, but you can get them cheaper than that. I think audioquest finally stepped over their mark by making something of this form factor cost that much.
the colbalt sounds significantly better. The thx stuff is kind of a scam as most of what makes a good amp is the power supply and output stage. It's the reason why the smsl sp200 and Benchmark HPA4 can have the same module, but one costs $200, while the other cost $3000 and it sounds like that price difference if you have the right headphones. Its never like for like.
@@Starstreak170 go and reply to the messages that are calling you out on your objective bullshit. Audio science reviews doesn't even know how to use his fucking equipment correctly, let alone tell people that that the difference in those distortion measurements are perceptible by the human ear with a straight face. He reviews headphones by how much the base massages his ears. Him , and you by extention, are complete jokes when you make these fallacious arguments. There is a reason why pretty much everyone always disagrees with his subjective reviews, he isn't some guru, it just makes him a contrarian.
Cobalt is worth the price. I hate to admit it. It might be maybe $50 over priced. I wish they would come out with a DRAGONFLY AMETHYST with a balanced option with more power. It drove most headphones in my collection just fine. The sound? Incredible! Sound stage and clarity is just phenomenal. The tonality is just right and not too sharp....just neutral. I also have the iDSD BL which is a very powerful transportable DAC/AMP and guess what? With COBALT I rarely bothered to use it. It was that good. When a company innovates sound that good in such a small package, they DESERVE the money. Blew my mind. I could never get over how such a small package could sound THAT good. My iDSD BL felt like a tank next to it and frankly, COBALT, could replace a mid-tier desktop unit-- no problem, if power isn't an issue. Oh and my iDSD BL had an iGalvanic and iPurifier3 connected to it. There's the clue right there. The problem with COBALT is the build quality which is not robust. They used sheet metal with COBALT rather than cast aluminum for the exterior like with the RED. My COBALT started cutting in-and-out after 10 months of heavy use because the USB connector became loose. Fortunately it was under warranty. Audioquest stood behind their product and replaced it but I sold it off when I got the new one from the factory. The cost was too high to risk another failure. Other than that BRAVO Audioquest COBALT. Far better then your Dragonfly Red.
I connected my Cobalt to my desktops USB-C port at the back and then my Sennheiser HD 600 2019 edition to it. Couldn't be happier. The HD 600 got a tiny amount more soundstage and a bit more bass at higher volume. I also followed the tip of going into playback devices and set the volume level at 100 for the DragonFly and then regulate the volume in the audio software.
True, it’s sounds better than the black. It’s brittle tho, mine broke in my book bag. Bought a AQ black due to the build. May get another monolith … price keeps dropping. I’d pay $150 for better build tho. It sounds great.
@@shawnpwatsons1 I’m using the Apple adaptor so it could be that.. the sound is fuller when plugged directly into my pc. Don’t know if that’s just my perception or it’s simply more power.. but yeah sounds great either way!
It's called "marketing" and you can get a PhD in the field at your local university. AQ may have lost some brand recognition so they intro a new "high-end" dongle to increase "brand awareness". Maybe they'll sell more REDs or BLACKs -- who knows??? It's like Astell and Kern intro'ing a new lower-$ DAP.
I have a Dragonfly Black for $99, and it works great! You want to hate AQ even more, check out their Dragon speaker cables, which cost as much as a down payment for your house!
Bought the Xduoo xd-05 plus last week and still waiting for it to arrive. ( Apos Audio express shipping is bull$hit.) Anyway, with the power and features compared to the Dragonfly, why the hell would anyone bother with this?
Zeos: I don't like AQ becuz they sell expensive cables, they're built better and measure better also zeos: AQ should stop lying about their cables being batter.. Other than that, one of the better "reviews" i have seen from z in a while. And i kinda completely agree with him on the Cobalt, it's amazing, but it's like 1.5 to 2 times the price it should be for what it offers, kinda like all of the thumbdrive dacs aq has atm
Save your money. It's very overpriced when you look at the objective measurements. Audioquest sells snake oil. Lots of headphone DAC/Amps are available on Aliexpress that offer even more performance for about $30.
Dude, there is still absolute no empirical evidence that measurement have any effect on our prescription of sound quality. All the measurement of this device are below the audible threshold. Why get stuck up on things that have no relatively? Are you going to say something as fallacious as all tube amps are a scam too?
@@samulhardif8331 Why bother spending $300 when a $30 DAC has better performance? A good DAC isn't supposed to colour the sound like a tube amp does. If you want brand name DAC to impress people, then get the THX Onyx which at least performs better.
I can't recommend anything Audioquest. They're really proud of these Dragonfly dongles. Funny though the black and red both measure poorly and where overpriced and only successful through marketing. Looks like they're gonna strike out again with the blue. Just cause millions of people buy into Audioquests marketing doesn't make there products good. Just means Audioquest has a great marketing department and people are sheep. Very similar to the Bose business model. AudioScienceReview has reviewed two other dongles for $100 that are better.
The use case is a portable set up. Can you find a more portable alternative that cost as much and sounds as good? If your after sound quality that is .. HV not found anything at the price this small. Is there? This competes with hi end players costing over usd 1k! I find this Cobalt and a phone is more than good enough that's portable even for picky audio head philes :) Hoping a cheaper one though....
I feel like Cobalt was relevant a year ago, but now there are many other dongle DACs with all the power & functionality of Cobalt at 1/3 the price. Try Helm Bolt, every bit of the power & function, smaller form factor, under $100
I bought (and returned) a Dragonfly Cobalt as a first try and it sounded really horrible with 16 bit CD quality files and TH-cam, but nice with 24 bit files. High notes like Miles Davis' Sketches of Spain were really clipped or distorted in 16-bit but as good as audiophile vinyl in 24-bit. The real shocker was that using my mac's built in DAC yielded acceptable quality on 16-bit, and not really much worse with the 24-bit than the Cobalt.
PLEASE share your Playlists Z. It doesn't matter if it's unsorted or random. Or screenshots. I don't care. Zeos Taste runs so deep. If his sound demo tracks are so good, imagine private listening libraries
Don’t use Spotify. Even Apple Music sounds better. But I recommend Qobuz for real good audio quality, but a slightly limited music library. Or just use Tidal it has a complete music library and gets really close to Qobuz sound quality.
I kind of hate tiny devices that seem rather flimsy or delicate, that's my other reservation with this. I still lug around my Fiio Mont Blanc amp because it sounds great, but it's also metal and built like a tank. It is extra weight and bulk, but it performs and is difficult to beat on, and it didn't cost $300. On the other hand I was sitting at a diner for two hours yesterday using my new Pioneer CUEBT red DJ headphones via my iPhone, and they sounded fine but, they did lack the warmth and power that the Fiio amp or a good extra DAC would have provided. There is that volume and power limit via the basic phone, which is irritating. For that scenario I would love one of these, but the small and delicate profile is a boon or a curse, or both, not sure yet. The cap is easily lost, of course.
For me, Zeos hits it around minute 10. This might sound great but is it convenient and would I use it? No. Other options are good enough but I respect the tech and realise this might be exactly what others need.
This dongle measures worst at $300 than the $10 Apple USB-C. ASR is has just reviewed it, you should take a look, does not make this review look too good.
The Cobalt and products like the THX Onyx seem to be options for people who have no idea that there are many other quality devices available at half or even a third the price and have similar spec or better. I suppose it is a little unfair to compare it to a wireless device, it should be compared to devices of the same type and there are better spec usb dacs that can also do LDAC bluetooth and have an app.
Just bought a pair of LCD Xs gottem couple weeks ago. Looking for a headphone amp to make them worth my money. I love bass but love detail too. Any ideas out there?
@@martijnbos9873 bought a flux a12. But it was a joke in comparison to my vintage NAD receiver I was already using so just decided to stick with that. Lol
@@martijnbos9873 yeah that it did. Maybe the LCD X isn't a good match for it . I've been hearing that the old vintage receivers have a good headphone section in those so I'll probably just stick to what I already have.
this is fucking hilarious, TH-cam should have a 1000likes button, 🤣 but serious how the fuck they put in so much power even without balance... in a thumdrive
the audio magic xs is more convenient it has buttons on it to dial the volume up and down. i just dunno how it sounds compared to this audioquest.. has anyone heard the dacmagic xs? any sound comparisons?
The problem with the Cobalt is that it’s overpriced. It’s competent for what it is, but it’s still basically the AQ Red with a different paint job and slightly different form factor. The two measure virtually identically despite the different internals. Spec wise the E1DA smokes this at almost a third the price, more linear and way more powerful. The E1DA also has a balanced version. In practice, the power difference isn’t that much, both Cobalt/Red and the E1DA drive headphones well (for what they are - a good portable amp like the Xduoo Plus will destroy these without breaking a sweat). The E1DA drive slightly louder but not the 3x the specs indicate. The implementation is more refined in the Cobalt/Red, sleeker presentation, but only marginally for all the reasons Z said (no volume, minimal interface, no app, etc.). Yes, $200 is at the edge of how much this should cost.
@@Lauren080508 The E1DA’s cost twice that. You can’t expect AQ with its higher overhead to charge half for something that maybe performs only slightly less than the E1DAs. They’d go out of business. How many legit comparable products are out there currently that cost $50? Low cost, lowfi dongles that sound shit and can’t drive even iems don’t count. Reasonable profit is a thing if we want to continue to have nice things available in the market. It’s just AQ is notorious for being over the top greedy in its pricing, which needs to be called out.
A little more constructive, thoughtful or critical analysis would have been appreciated rather than focusing on if it has buttons. If it buttons is all it takes to make you happy then get a fidget cube for 5 bucks and simplify your life. Seems you have lost the goal of being comprehensive and objective in your review.
My phone still has just one (1) main camera on the back (not counting the video call camera on the front). A few months away from having used it for 3 years, after buying it used with 1 year already under its belt. Every time I see phone commercials I get the feeling newer phones have metastatic camera cancer, they're growing cameras all over their bodies now, they should seriously get that looked at.
I have a Dragonfly Black, just to have a little DAC/Amp at work. Has been great. Can power Fostex T-20RPs without drama (From USB 3.1 on my PC). It was a hundred bones. Not sure I would go higher than the Black for the given form factor.
the world have left AudioQuest Dragonfly. it used to be a cool little thing to carry around, now they just doesn't sound THAT good and lack all the features. even the design is old and kinda cumbersome compared to standard tiny dingle Dacs.
Tired both this, the red and the BTR5, as well as a few desk top chines dacs from topping and smsl. Found both dragonflys sounded significantly better than the btr5. If I had to describe it, the btr5 sound off, like it was somewhat artificial and clinical sounding which made the music sound far more dull and less dynamic. The two dragonflys brought some of that dynamics back, while the colbolt in particular noticeably increased the sound scape, while the btr5 kinda closed it in. Its like looking at things through high school chemistry glasses your whole life, then taking them off. If you never took them off, then you would have no idea what you were missing. As a dac, it sounded better than any other chines dac around the same price point. They should make a Bluetooth version though, the form factor really is quite bad for OTG.
This is off the subject at hand! but, just listened to the demos of The HD800 and HD800 s! It’s way more than obvious! that, the HD800!! are far superior to the HD800 s according, to the demos.
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Nice. G'day from Sydney. Listening to this with *my* LCD-X's and THX Onyx. (fwiw: Bought it for Mac USB-C, not mqa).
"You can get finer control volume add-ons" Or you could just drag the volume slider to exactly where you want it to be.
Belkin holds the title for dongle dacs
What I love about Cobalt - that jack is also a proper pre out if you use jack to dual RCA. It makes it a decent DAC. Not every USB dongle does this
I'm pretty sure the only difference between red black and cobalt is power output, and the nominal choice to choose lesser chips up to the cobalt with arbitrary marginal upcharges for profit and none gets your more features. It's only selling point is MQA and even then MQA is not good.
@Vittoria and for replying to an 8 months old comment you win: the audioquest USB sticks are overpriced garbage in 2022 and no one should buy one with all the options we have available for competing price ranges across all varieties which may or may not also include Bluetooth 5.1 and/or batteries to save ones mobile device.
Again: 280 and below. These are dated. Given they sell magical snake oil cables it's no wonder.
@Vittoria cool story bro.
@Vittoria with a bald cat on your lap as well?
I would love to see Zeos review the THX AAA Onyx dongle Dac.
And the Ztella Zorloo
Me too: Z review of the Onyx. Personally, I wanted to A/B compare the THX Onyx with others in the category. But. Here in Sydney there was no store that stocked both. Based on the rave reviews from: Z/Josh/dms/whatever the name of The Headphone Show guy is - on the massdrop THX Amp(s). I took a punt - remember the mantra in Risky Business? - and bought the THX Onyx sight unseen. (And this was before the mqa thread blow up).
Anyway the Onyx Does exactly what I wanted it to.
More "oomph" - like WAY more - for my LCD-X's - driven off a 2013 Mac Pro.
The big issue I see is that both the BTR3k and BTR5 can be used as dongle dacs too.
Ive heard the red the colbalt and the fiio BTR5. And both dragonflys sound significantly better than the fiio.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez better than the BTR5? Not likely.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez you listened to music using both dragonfly devices and also used the BTR5 as a usb DAC with the same type of music in the same format using the same headphones? That is commendably thorough of you, good job.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez The Dragonfly red sounds better than the Quedlix 5k too (same DAC). Wired pushes it closer but nothing can beat LDAC for portability outside as USB C is crud for holding data signal in the pocket. Constantly falling out.
Oh and my red has a dodgy 3.5mm socket they wanted nothing to do with to fix. I dropped it ONCE and it only works now when I hold the 3.5mm socket to the side... so yeah there's that
Not to mention the Android phones with the dragonfly DACs do not play ball. They send the full upscaled version to the Dragonfly so gives it no choice but to play what it is given, which is hissy with Spotify say.
The BTR5 and 5K both seem to work fine with the dedicated apps
I have the cobalt and the BTR5 and i use the BTR5 in 4 of 5 cases. Does the BTR5 sound as good as the cobalt... no! But the difference is not big enough for me compared to the convenience the Fiio offers.
Wait.. so Im a getting this correctly. He says Cobalt sounds as a good desktop amp in 500 dollar range. But then complains cobalt is too expensive despite also being really tiny and portable.
Damn. I ordered this 12 hours before Z’s review. Still, didn’t disappoint. It’s great. No, it’s amazing, if you don’t mind the “lack” of features at this price. Sounds just like a desktop amp and its compact form just works . I had some serious QC issues with xDuoo in the past (TA01B particularly) so I don’t see me buying their products in the future.
Unfortunately it does not sound like a desktop amp and has one of the worst measured audio qualities. Any $30 dongle is better
@@ophiuchia4916 Meh, prly returning it due to the price. What’s your current setup? What would you recommend?
THX Onyx (for hard-to-drive headphones), Apple lightning adapter for regular headphones on iphone, sonata-HD for regular headphones on Android
Apple lightning adapter powers my DT1990 pro just fine (but I don't listen at crazy volume)
@@ophiuchia4916 I’m powering the DT-1990’s on the Cobalt, and they sound easily better than the lighting dongle. But damn, didn’t know about the THX Onyx, I really feel stupid buying the Cobalt after knowing about it. Definitely returning it.
@@ophiuchia4916 That SINAD is just terrible.
The absolute best dongle DAC at the moment is the Luxury & Precision W2. It's also $299 but it's got Balanced and unbalanced output, EQ, tuning filters, dual DAC and much higher and cleaner power output. Review it!
dope item
@@ar_xiv yep, it really is. The Cobalt by contrast is less than a joke for its price, it's an insult frankly. I've had 2 pairs physically break on me within 4 weeks. I gave up and got myself a E1DA 9038S gen 2 for $89.
Beats it every category.
As a Cobalt owner, I have to say I'm perfectly happy with it, and I don't actually want an extra volume control on it personally since I've found it's easier to use it across multiple devices since each device will remember the appropriate volume level for it and then I don't have to mess with the volume every time I switch devices. Also, the reason the color indicator on it was "wrong" is because Android always resamples audio, no matter what the original source format is unless you specifically bypass the built-in audio stack.
Note that I wouldn't mind a 4.4 balanced version, though.
I keep finding that comment everywhere, but... How? My Dragonfly Black processes the signal correctly, without additional software. On PC I tested it out with just random electrical noise at different sampling rates, and it indicates correctly. Same on phone. Playing directly through Android, green for CD, blue for 48, and so on, up to purple for MQA
@@mariozenarju6461 If your app has a built in separate USB stack, it can bypass the Android audio stack. That's what apps like USB Audio Player Pro do. I do think that it is possible that Tidal had now actually implemented this functionality, too, since it prompted me for direct device access the last time I plugged a DAC/Amp directly into my phone. But, at the time I wrote this comment it definitely wasn't the case.
@@eruilluvitar Sometimes times do change only for the better
You need a dongle DAC? Go with apple usb-c dongle (10 euro). You need power too? Go with E1DA 9038 D (SE) or 9038 S (BAL) (almost 100 euro).
you could try poweramp, it has finer volume control that actually works
Spot on review. I too feel this is no way worth $300.00. Plain Jane, does nothing and I was always afraid it was going to break.
It's a great sounding unit. If that's all you need, then it's worth it. Just make sure you install USB Audio Player Pro to get the full resolution of files.
I keep finding that recommendation everywhere, but... Why? My Dragonfly Black processes the signal correctly, without additional software. On PC I tested it out with just random electrical noise at different sampling rates, and it indicates correctly. Same on phone. Playing directly through Android, green for CD, blue for 48, and so on, up to purple for MQA, without USB Audio Player
@@mariozenarju6461 because android driver resamples audio by default and that cannot be turned off until you completely bypass the android audio driver. only UAPP and Neutron music Player do this as far as I know.
Audioquest products are tailor made for people that hate money and have too much of it. If you're in that camp, might I suggest you go with something like the Hidizs S9 or E1DA 9038D or Tempotec Sonata Hd Pro, or Spectra X, or Qudelix 5K, or ..., and give your extra $100-200 to like Red Cross, World Central Kitchen, local food bank, pet adoption, or whatever you favorite charity is? You'll actually get a better product for less money and help someone in need.
I love my cobalt and I don't care what people say MQA has a warmer fuller sound.
I proved this blind testing with my friend. 8/10 songs I rathered the MQA.
Also my Cobalt sounds a lot better than my Hidiz's dongle.
Somethings can't be quantified, I personally believe MQA properly unfolded allows better clock timing than normal folders. So you don't need a device with a independent jitter clock or at least not a high quality one.
@@mitchhifi9192 Do you have the S9 Pro?
I bought one and sent it back. It tried to deafen me three times (for some reason it defaults to full volume), and honestly I couldn’t tell the difference over my iPhone 12 dac dongle thing
I don't like apple, but the apple dongle dac/amp is a bargain by all measures.
the $9 Apple dongle is very, very underrated. features a built-in DAC and supports up to 24/48. Belkin also makes one but they charge $39. cannot imagine paying anywhere near the prices of the Cobalt blue, black or red when there is one available for $9 from Apple.
You have to use usb audio player pro on Android to get bit perfect output otherwise android resamples it before it goes out. That's why the light wasent showing the right colors.
will try it.
@@ZReviews zeos you need to make a follow up video w/ proper app it should drive the p2s
@@xXgamingtubehdtvXx good luck streaming qobuz or tidal with that
@@theovonskeletor3709 I won't.
@@xXgamingtubehdtvXx yea it will I have use it with both
Qudelix 5k exists. 3,5 AND 2,5 . AND buttons, AND bluetooth and app control with tons of features. And oh yea its a dongle dac/amp as well.
the joke you were looking for was How to Drain Your Dragon
Same DAC chip in the Hidizs S9 PRO which has nicer features at a lower price (still no buttons).
Are you using the USB audio player pro app?
Is that a free app you can download onto your smartphone?
@@erikybarra3898 no its not free
@@erikybarra3898 It's paid but it's not really that expensive and is one of the best Android players for sound quality. Recommended for DAPs and phones with decent dac chips inside.
The AKM fire factory wait for a sandwich bit had me laughing pretty hard. Don't ever change Zeos. :-)
Shanling UA2, Hidizs S9, E1DA 9038D/S... all have f*ck ton of power and under 100 bucks. And IMO better than most Dragonflys (red, cobalt, black) even at 1/3 of the price
edit: all of them also has balanced options!
100% agree. Subjective reviews of DACs without any objective measurements are worthless.
@@Starstreak170 All measurements of these dacs are below audio threshold. Saying that one dac is better because its has a snr of 130 while another has 110 is objectively and provably false. Things like dynamic range cannot be measured, and those are the things that change the most with a better dac. Go and look at Currawong video he did on measurements if you are someone that isn't part of a cult that doesn't want to hear another perspective (you probably won't though because your perspective so paper thin that any critique on tit would cause it to collapse).
Is Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt compatible with Grado Labs SR80e? Just making sure before I make a purchase because other people complain about hearing lots of hiss, pops and clicks.
Did you use USB audio player pro app? Android don't use the USB dac/amp if you don't and just play music like mp3 quality
How do you expect him to hear sound coming from the dragonfly if the phone "isn't using it"? Do you mean that Android is doing processing of its own? Yeah, but it still uses it.
@@sanjacobs6261 exactly, android ain't using the dragonfly
@@ray0787 if Android isn't using the Dragonfly, then how is sound coming out of the Dragonfly, which doesn't accept analogue signals?
@@dapperbrick7516 The Dragonfly is receiving a digital signal, but Android hijacks the source file's digital signal and converts everything it outputs via the USB to 44/16. USB Audio Player Pro App disables Android and outputs the file in whatever format it is stored in 96/24, 192/24 etc.
@@daveelgee2008 Now that makes more sense! Thanks for the explanation :)
Really don't understand this shit about "more features" over just having better sound quality. Why buy a dac if the sound improvement is not pretty much 100% of your concern. Plenty of $20 converters that will input single by optical or usb, or just use your laptop. This idea that equipment that is designed to improve reproduction of music should be given a weighted score even close to what "features" it has is laughable. I heard this thing somewhat recently, and it honestly makes all the Chines dac/amps ive heard around this price point sound so artificial and clinical. Whether that is worth $300 for one connectivity is your choice, but I am happy that there are dac amps in this price point that dont sound as dull and flat like the d50 or su-9.
Thank god for Usb Audio Player Pro and bypasses everything on any phone and plays best quality.
THX Onyx is only 200. Its more powerful and built with better materials. This is way overpriced. Typical Audioquest.
Also I just got a Line Magnetic 501 IA. 100 watts per channel. Do you have any feedback or experience.
Subscribed the other day and was hoping you'd review this bad boy!
I'm in the market for one but I'm looking for the best. Could you recommend me your top three that you've reviewed in the $0-$500 price range?
Had one for a day, years ago now. Sent it back as it did strange things to Dragonborn, my test track, well, one of them. I bought it as I still have a Dragonfly black. Plugged into my PC with my ELEX hanging off it. Though yes, at €300 I was expecting much more than I got.
"at €300 I was expecting much more than I got." yeah that's a good summary...
I bought this product and I think it was under powered so I sent it back.. why would anyone buy this when you can get the FiiO BTR5 for half the price and it sounds better
Well said
Coming here after listening to Amir's scathing review, it's absolutely hilarious
It just makes everyone confused. Probably, Amir is looking for faults no one ears and Z is listening to the earphone quality because... Probably a DAC actually makes little difference on audio performance 🤔
@@rusedgin
Lol!
I own one and think it sounds great. It sounds better than the Zorloo (which I also own) that Amir measured as better than the Audioquest. Trust your ears!
@@andycrook6508 well, Amir was explaining something about the inability to drive a low impedance headphone. Witch makes sense. But, then again, if we don't listen at high volumes, it doesn't matter...
@@andycrook6508
False positives and false negatives.
Audio products with fewer buttons, screens and wireless doohickeys secretly appeal to me more. There are 3 reasons I can think of for this. 1) Makes me question if this is a product aimed at the mass market rather than audio quality being a priority at all. 2) Money spent on the "features" could have been spent improving the audio quality instead. 3) Could the extras actually be sources of electrical interference and be reducing the sound quality compared to the identical device without them? First thing I do with a new audio toy is to switch off every wireless feature I can find and connect using cables only. Ok, there are my reasons they might not be the most rational reasons ever, but there they are.
I have 2 Cobalt DACs I've had for at least 2 years and since the latest i-Phone/i-Pad IOS 16.5 "upgrade" they are not recognized and unusable.
Just get the Red. Black is not really an upgrade over a basic dongle dac and the Cobalt is not worth the extra $100
no it isnt, but you can get them cheaper than that. I think audioquest finally stepped over their mark by making something of this form factor cost that much.
Hi, will the AQ Dragonfly Cobalt work well with the 70ohm Audeze LCD-2 Fazers? Thanks
You could use the THX Onyx dac for $199 with the P2s. lots more power than the cobalt. Has their AAA amp tech.
the colbalt sounds significantly better. The thx stuff is kind of a scam as most of what makes a good amp is the power supply and output stage. It's the reason why the smsl sp200 and Benchmark HPA4 can have the same module, but one costs $200, while the other cost $3000 and it sounds like that price difference if you have the right headphones. Its never like for like.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez so you’ve bought the THX Onyx amp and listened to it ? I have. I am not of the same opinion
@@En_Joshi-Godrez Onyx way measures better than the cobalt.
@@Starstreak170 go and reply to the messages that are calling you out on your objective bullshit. Audio science reviews doesn't even know how to use his fucking equipment correctly, let alone tell people that that the difference in those distortion measurements are perceptible by the human ear with a straight face. He reviews headphones by how much the base massages his ears. Him , and you by extention, are complete jokes when you make these fallacious arguments. There is a reason why pretty much everyone always disagrees with his subjective reviews, he isn't some guru, it just makes him a contrarian.
Cobalt is worth the price. I hate to admit it. It might be maybe $50 over priced. I wish they would come out with a DRAGONFLY AMETHYST with a balanced option with more power. It drove most headphones in my collection just fine. The sound? Incredible! Sound stage and clarity is just phenomenal. The tonality is just right and not too sharp....just neutral. I also have the iDSD BL which is a very powerful transportable DAC/AMP and guess what? With COBALT I rarely bothered to use it. It was that good. When a company innovates sound that good in such a small package, they DESERVE the money. Blew my mind. I could never get over how such a small package could sound THAT good. My iDSD BL felt like a tank next to it and frankly, COBALT, could replace a mid-tier desktop unit-- no problem, if power isn't an issue. Oh and my iDSD BL had an iGalvanic and iPurifier3 connected to it. There's the clue right there.
The problem with COBALT is the build quality which is not robust. They used sheet metal with COBALT rather than cast aluminum for the exterior like with the RED. My COBALT started cutting in-and-out after 10 months of heavy use because the USB connector became loose. Fortunately it was under warranty. Audioquest stood behind their product and replaced it but I sold it off when I got the new one from the factory. The cost was too high to risk another failure. Other than that BRAVO Audioquest COBALT. Far better then your Dragonfly Red.
Haven’t watched Z in quite a while. I forgot what it’s like to feel like I’m home.
Missed opportunity for "How to Drain Your Dragon", just sayin...
I connected my Cobalt to my desktops USB-C port at the back and then my Sennheiser HD 600 2019 edition to it.
Couldn't be happier. The HD 600 got a tiny amount more soundstage and a bit more bass at higher volume.
I also followed the tip of going into playback devices and set the volume level at 100 for the DragonFly and then regulate the volume in the audio software.
Hey Z, you should check on the Monolith usb dac, IMO it outshines the dragonfly black and red for under $100!
True, it’s sounds better than the black. It’s brittle tho, mine broke in my book bag. Bought a AQ black due to the build. May get another monolith … price keeps dropping. I’d pay $150 for better build tho. It sounds great.
Can you review Shanling UA2 next?
I have this and its so awesome!!!!
How is a big heavy device that sounds the same better than a little thumb stick for portable use?
Using silver coating on cables doesn't do shit in the 20 Hz - 20kHz frequency band.
But it does difference in the GHz band
It sounds noticeably better plugged directly into the computer
I could not tell the difference at all and I've got a good ear. I wonder if you've got a bad dragon tail?
@@shawnpwatsons1 I’m using the Apple adaptor so it could be that.. the sound is fuller when plugged directly into my pc. Don’t know if that’s just my perception or it’s simply more power.. but yeah sounds great either way!
4 months ago got HiBi r5 from aliexp for 260 bucks incl delivery, is this USB pen drive do better job ??
It's called "marketing" and you can get a PhD in the field at your local university. AQ may have lost some brand recognition so they intro a new "high-end" dongle to increase "brand awareness". Maybe they'll sell more REDs or BLACKs -- who knows??? It's like Astell and Kern intro'ing a new lower-$ DAP.
Final E 5000 and the Focal clears are a Great combination with the cobalt.
I have a Dragonfly Black for $99, and it works great! You want to hate AQ even more, check out their Dragon speaker cables, which cost as much as a down payment for your house!
Hilarious man love this. I'm currently powering a Bose SoundLink Mini with it
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These are 200 in my country i guess no1 buys them 🤔
Same here. Being forced to depend on USB-C for connectivity in 2020 outweighs the sound quality, specially when the competition is good enough.
Bought the Xduoo xd-05 plus last week and still waiting for it to arrive. ( Apos Audio express shipping is bull$hit.) Anyway, with the power and features compared to the Dragonfly, why the hell would anyone bother with this?
Zeos: I don't like AQ becuz they sell expensive cables, they're built better and measure better
also zeos: AQ should stop lying about their cables being batter..
Other than that, one of the better "reviews" i have seen from z in a while.
And i kinda completely agree with him on the Cobalt, it's amazing, but it's like 1.5 to 2 times the price it should be for what it offers, kinda like all of the thumbdrive dacs aq has atm
Someday soon there'll be a $400 DAC with blinking lights. I'll wait.
Chorde mojo?
How does the dragonfly cobalt match with the shure se 846?
Save your money. It's very overpriced when you look at the objective measurements. Audioquest sells snake oil. Lots of headphone DAC/Amps are available on Aliexpress that offer even more performance for about $30.
Dude, there is still absolute no empirical evidence that measurement have any effect on our prescription of sound quality. All the measurement of this device are below the audible threshold. Why get stuck up on things that have no relatively? Are you going to say something as fallacious as all tube amps are a scam too?
I know ASR reviews it's objective data as poor, but I don't care. The goddamn thing sounds fantastic.
@@samulhardif8331 Why bother spending $300 when a $30 DAC has better performance? A good DAC isn't supposed to colour the sound like a tube amp does. If you want brand name DAC to impress people, then get the THX Onyx which at least performs better.
I can't recommend anything Audioquest. They're really proud of these Dragonfly dongles. Funny though the black and red both measure poorly and where overpriced and only successful through marketing. Looks like they're gonna strike out again with the blue. Just cause millions of people buy into Audioquests marketing doesn't make there products good. Just means Audioquest has a great marketing department and people are sheep. Very similar to the Bose business model. AudioScienceReview has reviewed two other dongles for $100 that are better.
Audioquest basically invented the whole category of usb dongle DACs in 2012. We should be grateful for that
Can you review the Shanling UA2? Supports balanced for a fraction of this...
The use case is a portable set up. Can you find a more portable alternative that cost as much and sounds as good? If your after sound quality that is .. HV not found anything at the price this small. Is there? This competes with hi end players costing over usd 1k! I find this Cobalt and a phone is more than good enough that's portable even for picky audio head philes :) Hoping a cheaper one though....
I use the Helm Audio Bolt and am very happy with it.
Z was fired up today... I like it
I feel like Cobalt was relevant a year ago, but now there are many other dongle DACs with all the power & functionality of Cobalt at 1/3 the price. Try Helm Bolt, every bit of the power & function, smaller form factor, under $100
I bought (and returned) a Dragonfly Cobalt as a first try and it sounded really horrible with 16 bit CD quality files and TH-cam, but nice with 24 bit files. High notes like Miles Davis' Sketches of Spain were really clipped or distorted in 16-bit but as good as audiophile vinyl in 24-bit. The real shocker was that using my mac's built in DAC yielded acceptable quality on 16-bit, and not really much worse with the 24-bit than the Cobalt.
PLEASE share your Playlists Z.
It doesn't matter if it's unsorted or random. Or screenshots. I don't care.
Zeos Taste runs so deep. If his sound demo tracks are so good, imagine private listening libraries
Don’t use Spotify. Even Apple Music sounds better. But I recommend Qobuz for real good audio quality, but a slightly limited music library. Or just use Tidal it has a complete music library and gets really close to Qobuz sound quality.
I'd rather die than support that company.
Give the Lotto Paw S1 a try - at least somewhat more agreeable price, better features (balanced, PEQ profiles), excellent sound.
I kind of hate tiny devices that seem rather flimsy or delicate, that's my other reservation with this. I still lug around my Fiio Mont Blanc amp because it sounds great, but it's also metal
and built like a tank. It is extra weight and bulk, but it performs and is difficult to beat on, and it didn't cost $300. On the other hand I was sitting at a diner for two hours
yesterday using my new Pioneer CUEBT red DJ headphones via my iPhone, and they sounded fine but, they did lack the warmth and power that the Fiio amp or a good extra DAC
would have provided. There is that volume and power limit via the basic phone, which is irritating. For that scenario I would love one of these, but the small and delicate
profile is a boon or a curse, or both, not sure yet. The cap is easily lost, of course.
For me, Zeos hits it around minute 10. This might sound great but is it convenient and would I use it? No. Other options are good enough but I respect the tech and realise this might be exactly what others need.
Just get a Shanling UA2, less than a third of the price (i got mine for less than 1/4), more powerful with balanced out.
Don't forget the Earman Sparrow!
Please recommend me a pair of headphones for this dac/amp. I love electronic music 😭❤️
wgzBlon B60 I have a review on this channel somewhere
This dongle measures worst at $300 than the $10 Apple USB-C. ASR is has just reviewed it, you should take a look, does not make this review look too good.
But it does sound excellent 🤔
The Cobalt and products like the THX Onyx seem to be options for people who have no idea that there are many other quality devices available at half or even a third the price and have similar spec or better. I suppose it is a little unfair to compare it to a wireless device, it should be compared to devices of the same type and there are better spec usb dacs that can also do LDAC bluetooth and have an app.
Which cheaper devices would you recommend? I have a dragonfly black and it sound ok. I guess
Just bought a pair of LCD Xs gottem couple weeks ago. Looking for a headphone amp to make them worth my money. I love bass but love detail too. Any ideas out there?
I got lcd-x too. Did you buy something already?
@@martijnbos9873 bought a flux a12. But it was a joke in comparison to my vintage NAD receiver I was already using so just decided to stick with that. Lol
@@ronaldfriedline9297 That is surprising. Looks like a good device on paper
@@martijnbos9873 yeah that it did. Maybe the LCD X isn't a good match for it . I've been hearing that the old vintage receivers have a good headphone section in those so I'll probably just stick to what I already have.
this is fucking hilarious, TH-cam should have a 1000likes button, 🤣
but serious how the fuck they put in so much power even without balance... in a thumdrive
18:30 watching my own videos, yup, do that, your rants Zeos, Awesome. Thank you.
iBasso DC04 with Pentacon 4.4mm Zeos!
There's a smaller lightning to USB adapter that works that similar to the USB adapters
the audio magic xs is more convenient it has buttons on it to dial the volume up and down. i just dunno how it sounds compared to this audioquest.. has anyone heard the dacmagic xs? any sound comparisons?
The problem with the Cobalt is that it’s overpriced. It’s competent for what it is, but it’s still basically the AQ Red with a different paint job and slightly different form factor. The two measure virtually identically despite the different internals. Spec wise the E1DA smokes this at almost a third the price, more linear and way more powerful. The E1DA also has a balanced version. In practice, the power difference isn’t that much, both Cobalt/Red and the E1DA drive headphones well (for what they are - a good portable amp like the Xduoo Plus will destroy these without breaking a sweat). The E1DA drive slightly louder but not the 3x the specs indicate. The implementation is more refined in the Cobalt/Red, sleeker presentation, but only marginally for all the reasons Z said (no volume, minimal interface, no app, etc.). Yes, $200 is at the edge of how much this should cost.
read ASR review actually should cost less that $50
@@Lauren080508 The E1DA’s cost twice that. You can’t expect AQ with its higher overhead to charge half for something that maybe performs only slightly less than the E1DAs. They’d go out of business. How many legit comparable products are out there currently that cost $50? Low cost, lowfi dongles that sound shit and can’t drive even iems don’t count. Reasonable profit is a thing if we want to continue to have nice things available in the market. It’s just AQ is notorious for being over the top greedy in its pricing, which needs to be called out.
A little more constructive, thoughtful or critical analysis would have been appreciated rather than focusing on if it has buttons. If it buttons is all it takes to make you happy then get a fidget cube for 5 bucks and simplify your life. Seems you have lost the goal of being comprehensive and objective in your review.
I know there must be a real reason Z uses that ancient phone still. I just can't imagine it. He clearly loves top notch technology.
My phone still has just one (1) main camera on the back (not counting the video call camera on the front). A few months away from having used it for 3 years, after buying it used with 1 year already under its belt. Every time I see phone commercials I get the feeling newer phones have metastatic camera cancer, they're growing cameras all over their bodies now, they should seriously get that looked at.
You better not be saying the sound is not neutral. I will never pay for a non-neutral DAC/AMP.
What's the name of the alternative dac he showed us?
Love the rant the truth hurts and the part about how people can be so gullible blows my mind.... Keeping it real....
Demand better...I’m still processing your Halo rant...you’re absolutely right , build quality, features and value for money.
Please please please make a comparison of the Hifimediy S2!!
I have a Dragonfly Black, just to have a little DAC/Amp at work. Has been great. Can power Fostex T-20RPs without drama (From USB 3.1 on my PC). It was a hundred bones. Not sure I would go higher than the Black for the given form factor.
Also have the Black, paired nicely with AKG K240 MKII. I even need to reduce the volume to 80%, and that says something, considering I like it *loud*
Amir did the measurements... The cobalt is shitte in those.
I love your reviews. However I despise the keycaps you have😂
the world have left AudioQuest Dragonfly. it used to be a cool little thing to carry around, now they just doesn't sound THAT good and lack all the features. even the design is old and kinda cumbersome compared to standard tiny dingle Dacs.
Tired both this, the red and the BTR5, as well as a few desk top chines dacs from topping and smsl. Found both dragonflys sounded significantly better than the btr5. If I had to describe it, the btr5 sound off, like it was somewhat artificial and clinical sounding which made the music sound far more dull and less dynamic. The two dragonflys brought some of that dynamics back, while the colbolt in particular noticeably increased the sound scape, while the btr5 kinda closed it in. Its like looking at things through high school chemistry glasses your whole life, then taking them off. If you never took them off, then you would have no idea what you were missing. As a dac, it sounded better than any other chines dac around the same price point. They should make a Bluetooth version though, the form factor really is quite bad for OTG.
I don't understand just buy a BTR5
Where can I find kph30i clear vs old version measurement comparisons?
ok what analog is there for 300?
I have the same DAC. I use USB AUDIO PRO. In play store. Act like a pre amp for phone.
This is off the subject at hand! but, just listened to the demos of The HD800 and HD800 s! It’s way more than obvious! that, the HD800!! are far superior to the HD800 s according, to the demos.
$300? I'm good bro. I'm chilling with my apple dongle lol
Comedy Gold!
rediculous price,can get a project dac box s2 for like 29 bux more and be ten times better lol tho i guess portability? nah not for me