NOTE: At 6:15 I should have stated the rule as "a butterfly cannot collect a flower token from the space IT started on, or from any space that ANY of its butterflies already collected from that turn."
Just want to make sure I understand this rule correctly. I move butterfly 1 off it's spot. Then I move butterfly 2 onto the spot that butterfly 1 started on. I can collect a token for butterfly 2, correct?
I've had this a couple of weeks now, but still haven't got round to playing it. I was waiting for a Watch it Played video first. And Rodney didn't disappoint.
Great video, Rodney! I'm happy to have this tutorial in my back pocket for sending to friends, because I suspect that this game is going to "migrate" through my game groups quite a bit over the next year or so.
Such a great video! Thanks so much. We opened the game set it up and was immediately confused for a few plays. I'm so glad I looked for a video such as this and watched it. Such great explanation thanks again.
I bought this for my wife for Christmas and we are looking at playing our first game this evening. Great tutorial Rodney and all of your videos certainly help the hobby. Keep up the excellent work.
@@craigstueber8073 aww thanks but we're in Costa Rica so after transport and customs that's not going to be financially viable. We're on a waiting list :) x
Rodney. Thanks. You always cover the things that don’t really translate from the rules. I have a saying with my wife when something doesn’t gel, “what does Rodney say?”
The single "r" in the word Mariposa makes a kind of "d" noise. I really liked how in your Quacks of Quedlinburg you pronounced it like should be (or the best you could! Haha!). Just thought you might like to know. Absolutely love your videos. You've taught me to play most every game I own!
Picking this up today from my pre-order. I liked Wingspan enough that I pre-ordered this without any idea what the gameplay was going to be like. Looks like a winner to me.
@@WatchItPlayed I just got back from the game store I pre-ordered it from. GOing to open it tonight and then dream about having friends to play it with. DIdn't notice before if there was a solo mode, that would be cool.
I saw this game in my local shop, it looked beautiful but the description on the box didn't catch my attention. Thanks for this video! I've made my decision 😊
So I've already played the game a couple times and decided to watch this video just for fun. And boy am I glad I did so. For some weird reason I thought that when you pay matching flower tokens to hatch, they also had to match the flower you landed on next to the milkweed. Don't know why such a random fake rule got stuck in my head but I'm glad this video corrected me. Turns out it was fun and constructive.
I've gotten those kind of fake rules stuck in my head too. You read a sentence and it gets stuck in your head a certain way and then you never really see it differently until you're force to re-examine it. Glad the video helped!
As always awesome review Rodney.Thanks for the great content.My partner told me to stop watching your videos as I usually by the game not very long after...lol.
I am super looking forward to a play of this. This is moving toward the Christmas list. Could we please get a rules video for Babylonia from Reiner Knizia? I just picked that one up, and would love a good rules teach!
Valentine’s Day and we are finally, finally getting this to the table. It was a Christmas gift to my wife. The video was a definite saving throw. I couldn’t even figure out how to set up. But then once I watched and then read again, it all came together. Thanks again.
As always Rodney, your comments are great and very easy to understand especially for a non-english native watcher. Being a Mexican and a butterfly lover, and after playing many times and loving Wingspan, I was sure that we were going to like the game and we did but I have a couple of doubts and I hope you can help us: 1. The way we see it, it is not necessary to go all the way up to Canada, so, can one stay in the middle of USA and hatch generations 4s to be able to be back in Michoacán? 2. Can we hatch generations 4 even we still have generations 3 left outside of the board? 3. Can we bring generations 4 back already in Summer or do we have to wait until it is Fall? I do appreciate your answers and thanks for your incredible explanations in your videos.
Hey there, I'm always happy to try to help with rules questions, but if the answer is provided in the video, than I have to direct you there. You'll find an index in the description to help you find the section you might be looking for. I think you will find these things covered :)
I have a question. When you have a generation 4 double butterfly, do you take 2 flower tokens every time you land? Thank you so much for the video btw! really helpful :)
Awe one day too late. LOL. Played last night and had to learn the old school way and read the rule book. Imagine that! ; ) Still gonna watch and make sure we played correctly.
@@WatchItPlayed It did indeed and we played correctly. Looking forward to giving it another try. Simple game to learn but there's definitely lots of strategy I missed on the first play. Only got one double 4 butterfly back to Michoacan. My wife destroyed my son and I.
Hi Rodney, I have a question about the turn sequence: if you start your turn on a space adjacent to a milkweed, can you hatch a butterfly before moving?
You retain your used bonus move cards at the end of the season only as a reminder that you cannot gain another bonus move card of that type, but you do not get to use them again. Basically, they are one-time use effects. Hope that helps!
Excellent video. I am looking forward to getting this game to the table. I am wondering how many people will forget about getting back to Michoacan for that end game scoring. Haha. I am sure I will forget when I play.
We played last night and while none of us forgot that we had to do that, once the Fall season started we all quickly realized it would be impossible to get all or even most of our butterflies back with only 6 turns to go. There's definitely some strategy to figure out there.
@@anniechrietzberg1819 I know what you mean. I'm thinking of how I'll play next time and I don't see how you can go for the season goals, go around the map collecting card sets, and get a significant number of lvl 4's back. And those are key. My wife, son, and I were very close in score until she was able to get one extra 2x butterfly back than us and that just shot her forward so much.
@@ddiaz28 We are playing again tonight. I have a feeling that multiplicity of strategies will unfold as it does with Wingspan. My bestie and I have played 8 games of Wingspan in a row, and have played rogue games with two boards each to extend the game, and some games where we don't subtract turns in each subsequent round. I am sure we will get up to some house rules with Mariposas too, but we like to know how to play correctly first.
I have a question on the rule right below the chart in the rulebook. It's says for each subsequent gen 4 butterfly score an additional 2 points. Can someone elaborate??
That means if you are scoring more monarchs than the chat goes up to, than each extra monarch you brought back to Mexico gives you 2 extra points. Hope that helps.
@@WatchItPlayed Hummmm. Wouldn’t you count the other gen 4 butterflies you have on the board that hadn’t returned to Michoacán? What would be the point of breeding your butterflies to gen 4 then? Plus there are only 4 gen 4 butterflies for each player in the game.
@@OwithB For that scoring chart, you only count generation 4 butterflies you get back to Michoacán. Regarding your question about only having 4 generation 4 butterflies: remember, the generation 4 butterflies are double sided, and one side count as "two" butterflies, so you could technically have a total of 8 4th generation butterflies.
2 questions. Can you play the green cards that you acquire with the extra moves every season or is it once per game? 2nd question in the fall season there is a bonus to collect 4 points for every 5 flowers are you allowed to do this more than once, for example if you had 10 flowers could you collect 8 points? One other question if you are moving 2 different butterflies on the same turn can you collect 2 of the same flowers.
1) The green cards are only played once per game. 2) I prefer not to get into card specific effects as that's more than I can manage across all the games I feature, but you'll find details about the scoring cards on page 12 of the rule book. 3) Yes.
If we play 4 space butterfly card with flower token matching any adjacent space ( at 13:42), and my final movement is a flower space adjacent to one of the city ( say it Atlanta). After we take a flower token, can we take the bonus card at Atlanta? If we are the 1st person reach Atlanta, can we roll the die? Thank you
So is it mandatory to move the amount of spaces that a card says to move, or can you move fewer spaces? In example, if you play the card that allows you to move five spaces land once, do you HAVE to move all five spaces, or could you move three spaces and land once?
Hey Melisa, if your landing space is next to a milkweed symbol, the butterfly that landed there may immediately reproduce, but note that the word "landing" is key here. Your newly-hatched butterfly has not "landed" anywhere yet, so it cannot reproduce.
Are you allowed to level up a generation 2 butterfly to a 3 while you still had a generation 1 on the board that could be leveled up to a generation 2 (and you had the generation 2 in your hand). I would want to do this, wanting to just let the game level me up to the 2 as a freebie at the end of the round instead of having to spend tokens to do it while at the same time being to level up other butterflies to the more valuable higher levels. Or... are you only allowed to level up sequentially, using up all butterflies of that number before moving up to the next number.
Hey there, I'm always happy to try to help with rules questions, but if the answer is provided in the video, than I have to direct you there. You'll find an index in the description to help you find the section you might be looking for.
So I guess I'm confused: if there isn't a spring/summer/fall goal to get farther north, is the only incentive to get to the city waypoints is to get those cards? It would seem that just hovering around mexico would be the best to get all your level 4's back to score? Am I misunderstanding?
@@BenjaminVaterlaus Many of the spring and summer goals involve going up north for points, plus you get to collect the city waypoint cards and bonuses, so you might collect enough points even if few (or none) of your butterflies make it back to Mexico
@@WatchItPlayed kind of a question, do you have to go to a certain point on the board before being able to return back south? BTW another wonderful video
Okay, so I read the rulebook and watch your vid. I still don't understand why a player can't just linger south on the board close to Michoacan through all the seasons?
Played for the first time last night....got some of the bonus card actions wrong, so thanks for the clarification! Question....we know the double butterflies count as two in Michoacán at the end of the game, but do they count as two butterflies as they are moving across the board? With double butterflies, do you get two flowers on a single flower space, and four on a double space? And at the end of the game, if they are not in Michoacán, do they score as two butterflies, or only as a single token?
Good questions Annie! It counts as 2 for scoring purposes only - so in Mexico at the end, or for the season cards. However, you only collect 1 flower token from a space when you land on it with them.
Watch It Played thanks for your answers! One more clarification....what about when you are tallying points for the butterflies not in Mexico at the end of the game? Does ‘subsequent generation 4 butterfly’ only mean the double butterfly side of the token?
@@anniechrietzberg1819 You only get points for ones that make it back. The subsequent butterflies means if you get more than 6 back. So you get 2 more points for each past 6.
You had me at Elizabeth Hargrave. I saw this on Amazon, and thought hmmm maybe this would be good for Mrs. Minogue, and now, I know it would be awesome for her!! I am going to go ahead and get it for her for her Hobbit gift for my birthday (we always get a gift for the other person for our birthday, just like the hobbits).... EDIT: I have ordered a copy from the game store up north that is under new ownership. They are really trying to break into the game board business. The store had focused mostly on collectible items (models and statues). They are shifting to mostly games and so I want to support them. The store I had been using has really been messing up lately, and the last few times I was there they were downright rude. This new place is a pretty far piece away, but one good thing about a pandemic, the streets of Austin are not impassible anymore. It won’t take me 90 minutes to get there, it will probably only take me about 35 or 40 minutes. I am going up on Tuesday.
@@bensmithxlvi we started doing it when we were dating, we had read the Hobbit, and thought that was a great idea, so we buy gifts for each other on each other's birthday!!
Excellent video as always. I do think there might be slight rules error though. At 6:15 you mentioned that a butterfly cannot get a token from any space another butterfly started it's turn on but the example in the rulebook (pg.9) does exactly that. They send a newly hatched butterfly from one space to the space another butterfly started their turn on.
A very good catch Loic. I should have stated the rule as "a butterfly can't collect a flower token from the space IT started on, or from any space that ANY of its butterflies already collected from that turn." I merged two rules together in a confusing way. Will make a note to correct this in the description and as a pinned comment.
NOTE: At 6:15 I should have stated the rule as "a butterfly cannot collect a flower token from the space IT started on, or from any space that ANY of its butterflies already collected from that turn."
Just want to make sure I understand this rule correctly. I move butterfly 1 off it's spot. Then I move butterfly 2 onto the spot that butterfly 1 started on. I can collect a token for butterfly 2, correct?
@@johnrudolph9002 Yep!
By far the best board game explanations. Thank you once again for this
Very kind of you to say!
I've had this a couple of weeks now, but still haven't got round to playing it.
I was waiting for a Watch it Played video first. And Rodney didn't disappoint.
Glad to assist Stacy!
Watched it 2 years ago, watched it tonight for a quick refresher. #1 board game tutorials, Rodney you are so appreciated!
Glad it helped - thanks lilster!
I acquired this game around six months ago. I just learned it now with this video. It looks great and im excited to get in to it!
Very glad you enjoyed what you saw - have fun playing!
Thank you very much for this video, your way of explaining rules are always clean and leaves us with no questions! =)
That's very nice of you to say - thank you Cristiane - so glad you're enjoying :)
Great video, Rodney! I'm happy to have this tutorial in my back pocket for sending to friends, because I suspect that this game is going to "migrate" through my game groups quite a bit over the next year or so.
Well played Dustin, well played :) And thanks!
Such a stunningly beautiful game (and the gameplay looks pretty great, too)
I think you might enjoy this one!
Such a great video! Thanks so much. We opened the game set it up and was immediately confused for a few plays. I'm so glad I looked for a video such as this and watched it. Such great explanation thanks again.
So glad this was helpful Jessica - have a great time playing!
I bought this for my wife for Christmas and we are looking at playing our first game this evening. Great tutorial Rodney and all of your videos certainly help the hobby. Keep up the excellent work.
Thank you kindly - I hope you both have a great time playing!
Super video as always. You do the best game explanations. Thanks for continuing to make quality videos.
Very kind of you to say John!
Saw this on clearance at Books A Million for $25. After watching this great tutorial, I might have to go get it! Thanks Rodney as always!
You're very welcome - I hope you enjoy it!
Great thanks! Couldn't get hold of Wingspan so we've ordered this - looking forward to it. Thanks so much for a really clear explanation.
You're very welcome - have fun playing!
Check out one eyed jaques in richmond va they have a web site. My local game store they have tons of wing span
@@craigstueber8073 aww thanks but we're in Costa Rica so after transport and customs that's not going to be financially viable. We're on a waiting list :) x
This game is so gorgeous and has some of my favorite types of mechanics!!!
So glad you enjoyed what you saw Michele! It's such a beautiful presentation of the theme.
Just an outstanding job, per usual!!! Thanks for your channel!!!
Very kind of you to say Duane!
Thanks again Rodney for great video
You're very welcome!
Rodney. Thanks. You always cover the things that don’t really translate from the rules.
I have a saying with my wife when something doesn’t gel, “what does Rodney say?”
Very nice to know these have been helpful :)
Love butterflies, love flowers. So I'll heart this game for sure.
Crystal clear, thx 🙏
Have fun playing!
Thanks man, great video !
Thanks so much Raphael!
An excellent video as always!! Thank you so much!
I’ve just received my copy of mariposas today! Can’t wait to play!!!
Awesome, I hope you have a wonderful time playing Rogelio!
The single "r" in the word Mariposa makes a kind of "d" noise. I really liked how in your Quacks of Quedlinburg you pronounced it like should be (or the best you could! Haha!). Just thought you might like to know. Absolutely love your videos. You've taught me to play most every game I own!
Good to know - thanks!
Picking this up today from my pre-order. I liked Wingspan enough that I pre-ordered this without any idea what the gameplay was going to be like. Looks like a winner to me.
I hope you enjoy it Scott!
@@WatchItPlayed I just got back from the game store I pre-ordered it from. GOing to open it tonight and then dream about having friends to play it with. DIdn't notice before if there was a solo mode, that would be cool.
Definitely a winner! We have 2 play throughs and love it!
This looks absolutely beautiful and I definitely want it for my collection!
Hope you get to play it real soon!
Worth it! Two play throughs already and we love it!
I saw this game in my local shop, it looked beautiful but the description on the box didn't catch my attention. Thanks for this video! I've made my decision 😊
I hope you have a great time playing!
So I've already played the game a couple times and decided to watch this video just for fun. And boy am I glad I did so. For some weird reason I thought that when you pay matching flower tokens to hatch, they also had to match the flower you landed on next to the milkweed. Don't know why such a random fake rule got stuck in my head but I'm glad this video corrected me. Turns out it was fun and constructive.
I've gotten those kind of fake rules stuck in my head too. You read a sentence and it gets stuck in your head a certain way and then you never really see it differently until you're force to re-examine it. Glad the video helped!
As always awesome review Rodney.Thanks for the great content.My partner told me to stop watching your videos as I usually by the game not very long after...lol.
Hopefully you're getting some good ones to add to your collection :)
I am super looking forward to a play of this. This is moving toward the Christmas list. Could we please get a rules video for Babylonia from Reiner Knizia? I just picked that one up, and would love a good rules teach!
Thanks for the interest! I talk a bit about that here: th-cam.com/video/EdtDuvIUa6A/w-d-xo.html&t=342
Watch It Played That makes complete sense, thanks for explaining! If one does come though I’ll be happy to see it!
Your explanations are so spot on. Thank you Rodney!
Very kind of you to say!
Thanks for the great explanation! Can't wait to give this game a play
I hope you have a fun time with it!
Valentine’s Day and we are finally, finally getting this to the table. It was a Christmas gift to my wife. The video was a definite saving throw. I couldn’t even figure out how to set up. But then once I watched and then read again, it all came together. Thanks again.
Happy to assist, Frank!
As always Rodney, your comments are great and very easy to understand especially for a non-english native watcher. Being a Mexican and a butterfly lover, and after playing many times and loving Wingspan, I was sure that we were going to like the game and we did but I have a couple of doubts and I hope you can help us:
1. The way we see it, it is not necessary to go all the way up to Canada, so, can one stay in the middle of USA and hatch generations 4s to be able to be back in Michoacán?
2. Can we hatch generations 4 even we still have generations 3 left outside of the board?
3. Can we bring generations 4 back already in Summer or do we have to wait until it is Fall? I do appreciate your answers and thanks for your incredible explanations in your videos.
Hey there, I'm always happy to try to help with rules questions, but if the answer is provided in the video, than I have to direct you there. You'll find an index in the description to help you find the section you might be looking for. I think you will find these things covered :)
Thanks a ton for clearing many things up. The instructions in the guide booklet were a little baffling.
Very glad to know this was helpful!
Just picked this up from Labyrinth Games & Puzzles in DC! So excited to get it to the table!
Super! I hope you have a blast with it Abby!
That Ashes box has sure had a lot of different games on its head.
I have a question. When you have a generation 4 double butterfly, do you take 2 flower tokens every time you land? Thank you so much for the video btw! really helpful :)
You still take just one - glad you enjoyed the video!
Wow very good 🤩🤩🤩
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks, Rodney! :) Looks like a lot of fun!
Thanks for checking it out!
Awe one day too late. LOL. Played last night and had to learn the old school way and read the rule book. Imagine that! ; ) Still gonna watch and make sure we played correctly.
Hope the video helps confirm!
@@WatchItPlayed It did indeed and we played correctly. Looking forward to giving it another try. Simple game to learn but there's definitely lots of strategy I missed on the first play. Only got one double 4 butterfly back to Michoacan. My wife destroyed my son and I.
David Diaz i feel you pain, my friend....
Wow... I didn't expect to be interested in this one. but it looks very cool.
I guess its going to go on my wishlist. :)
Glad you dug it Yannick!
Hi Rodney, I have a question about the turn sequence: if you start your turn on a space adjacent to a milkweed, can you hatch a butterfly before moving?
Nope, only after your move.
As far as the green bonus cards, are you able to keep using them more then once? Or Do you discard them after you use them one time?
You retain your used bonus move cards at the end of the season only as a reminder that you cannot gain another bonus move card of that type, but you do not get to use them again. Basically, they are one-time use effects. Hope that helps!
What a game!
Wonderful as always!
No, you! (seriously tho, thanks Monique!).
Thanks!!
Copy arrives Tuesday-can’t wait!!
Have a great time playing Zachary!
It is a lot of fun! Two play throughs already!
Board Game Perspective glad to hear
Huge fan of wingspan, so pulled trigger blindly.
Playing tonight for the first time! This was super helpful!
Great to hear it - have a wonderful time playing!
Excellent video. I am looking forward to getting this game to the table. I am wondering how many people will forget about getting back to Michoacan for that end game scoring. Haha. I am sure I will forget when I play.
Now that you've mentioned it, it will probably stick into your memory all the better!
We played last night and while none of us forgot that we had to do that, once the Fall season started we all quickly realized it would be impossible to get all or even most of our butterflies back with only 6 turns to go. There's definitely some strategy to figure out there.
We kept feeling surprised by the end of the game, that there are only three seasons. Have played twice so far, and it is so on my mind!
@@anniechrietzberg1819 I know what you mean. I'm thinking of how I'll play next time and I don't see how you can go for the season goals, go around the map collecting card sets, and get a significant number of lvl 4's back. And those are key. My wife, son, and I were very close in score until she was able to get one extra 2x butterfly back than us and that just shot her forward so much.
@@ddiaz28 We are playing again tonight. I have a feeling that multiplicity of strategies will unfold as it does with Wingspan. My bestie and I have played 8 games of Wingspan in a row, and have played rogue games with two boards each to extend the game, and some games where we don't subtract turns in each subsequent round. I am sure we will get up to some house rules with Mariposas too, but we like to know how to play correctly first.
I have a question on the rule right below the chart in the rulebook. It's says for each subsequent gen 4 butterfly score an additional 2 points. Can someone elaborate??
That means if you are scoring more monarchs than the chat goes up to, than each extra monarch you brought back to Mexico gives you 2 extra points. Hope that helps.
@@WatchItPlayed Hummmm. Wouldn’t you count the other gen 4 butterflies you have on the board that hadn’t returned to Michoacán? What would be the point of breeding your butterflies to gen 4 then? Plus there are only 4 gen 4 butterflies for each player in the game.
@@OwithB For that scoring chart, you only count generation 4 butterflies you get back to Michoacán. Regarding your question about only having 4 generation 4 butterflies: remember, the generation 4 butterflies are double sided, and one side count as "two" butterflies, so you could technically have a total of 8 4th generation butterflies.
2 questions. Can you play the green cards that you acquire with the extra moves every season or is it once per game? 2nd question in the fall season there is a bonus to collect 4 points for every 5 flowers are you allowed to do this more than once, for example if you had 10 flowers could you collect 8 points? One other question if you are moving 2 different butterflies on the same turn can you collect 2 of the same flowers.
1) The green cards are only played once per game.
2) I prefer not to get into card specific effects as that's more than I can manage across all the games I feature, but you'll find details about the scoring cards on page 12 of the rule book.
3) Yes.
Thanks for your help!! We read page 12 but it really didnt answer the question either...We can just make our own rule for that one!
What is the reason to upgrade butterflies? Only for the scoring at the end of the game for generation 4?
Yes!
If we play 4 space butterfly card with flower token matching any adjacent space ( at 13:42), and my final movement is a flower space adjacent to one of the city ( say it Atlanta). After we take a flower token, can we take the bonus card at Atlanta? If we are the 1st person reach Atlanta, can we roll the die? Thank you
That card does not let you activate the bonus token on an adjacent space.
@@WatchItPlayed thanks Rodney, all your Tutorial are great
So is it mandatory to move the amount of spaces that a card says to move, or can you move fewer spaces? In example, if you play the card that allows you to move five spaces land once, do you HAVE to move all five spaces, or could you move three spaces and land once?
You must move the exact number of spaces shown.
Can a newly hatched butterfly hatch another butterfly without moving, either in the same turn or the next turn? Thanks!
Hey Melisa, if your landing space is next to a milkweed symbol, the butterfly that landed there may immediately reproduce, but note that the word "landing" is key here. Your newly-hatched butterfly has not "landed" anywhere yet, so it cannot reproduce.
@@WatchItPlayed Thank you!!!!
1:40 was super trippy, i thought they were wooden, hahaha.
Wait, they are wooden, but it looks like you squished it down to the table 😂
MAGIC!
Are you allowed to level up a generation 2 butterfly to a 3 while you still had a generation 1 on the board that could be leveled up to a generation 2 (and you had the generation 2 in your hand). I would want to do this, wanting to just let the game level me up to the 2 as a freebie at the end of the round instead of having to spend tokens to do it while at the same time being to level up other butterflies to the more valuable higher levels.
Or... are you only allowed to level up sequentially, using up all butterflies of that number before moving up to the next number.
Hey there, I'm always happy to try to help with rules questions, but if the answer is provided in the video, than I have to direct you there. You'll find an index in the description to help you find the section you might be looking for.
So I guess I'm confused: if there isn't a spring/summer/fall goal to get farther north, is the only incentive to get to the city waypoints is to get those cards? It would seem that just hovering around mexico would be the best to get all your level 4's back to score? Am I misunderstanding?
Hey Benjamin, that's not really a rules question, but more of a strategy question, and I don't tend to weigh in on those.
@@WatchItPlayed Thanks, Rodney! Love the videos!!
@@BenjaminVaterlaus Many of the spring and summer goals involve going up north for points, plus you get to collect the city waypoint cards and bonuses, so you might collect enough points even if few (or none) of your butterflies make it back to Mexico
Yes, and actually you often only get one or two doubles back to hit 50 and most points are available on the seasonal bonuses.
@@WatchItPlayed kind of a question, do you have to go to a certain point on the board before being able to return back south? BTW another wonderful video
Is the winner the first one to reach 50 points or do you count beyond 50 and highest score wins
You count beyond 50 points and the highest score wins.
Any chance you can add this video to BGG?
It wasn't until your comment that I realized it wasn't linked to BGG! Thanks for the head's up.
Rooooodneeeeeeeey! You the man!
Thanks Bart!
Okay, so I read the rulebook and watch your vid. I still don't understand why a player can't just linger south on the board close to Michoacan through all the seasons?
You certainly could do that, but you would likely not satisfy the end of season goal cards, and miss out on those points.
I don't get how they get back to Michoacan to score?
When moving, you can also move backwards.
Played for the first time last night....got some of the bonus card actions wrong, so thanks for the clarification! Question....we know the double butterflies count as two in Michoacán at the end of the game, but do they count as two butterflies as they are moving across the board? With double butterflies, do you get two flowers on a single flower space, and four on a double space? And at the end of the game, if they are not in Michoacán, do they score as two butterflies, or only as a single token?
Good questions Annie! It counts as 2 for scoring purposes only - so in Mexico at the end, or for the season cards. However, you only collect 1 flower token from a space when you land on it with them.
Watch It Played thanks for your answers! One more clarification....what about when you are tallying points for the butterflies not in Mexico at the end of the game? Does ‘subsequent generation 4 butterfly’ only mean the double butterfly side of the token?
Watch It Played or did we misunderstand that all together and you only get points for butterflies that made it back to Michoacán?
@@anniechrietzberg1819 You only get points for ones that make it back. The subsequent butterflies means if you get more than 6 back. So you get 2 more points for each past 6.
@@ddiaz28 ah, thank you. We got hung up on that phrase and wanted to make it into something else.
Seriously... how many times you had to flick that box cover to get the right shot? :P
Are you suggesting I didn't manage it on my first attempt? ;)
@@WatchItPlayed mangle? :p
Same designer who made Wingspan. Instant purchase.
Enjoy!
Had our first two play throughs. Super fun!
You had me at Elizabeth Hargrave. I saw this on Amazon, and thought hmmm maybe this would be good for Mrs. Minogue, and now, I know it would be awesome for her!! I am going to go ahead and get it for her for her Hobbit gift for my birthday (we always get a gift for the other person for our birthday, just like the hobbits)....
EDIT: I have ordered a copy from the game store up north that is under new ownership. They are really trying to break into the game board business. The store had focused mostly on collectible items (models and statues). They are shifting to mostly games and so I want to support them. The store I had been using has really been messing up lately, and the last few times I was there they were downright rude. This new place is a pretty far piece away, but one good thing about a pandemic, the streets of Austin are not impassible anymore. It won’t take me 90 minutes to get there, it will probably only take me about 35 or 40 minutes. I am going up on Tuesday.
Nice! I hope you both have a fun time playing it together :)
Ha, I love the hobbit birthday idea!
@@bensmithxlvi we started doing it when we were dating, we had read the Hobbit, and thought that was a great idea, so we buy gifts for each other on each other's birthday!!
Stop making such great how to play videos... My wallet hurts.
I blame the designers and publishers for making the games :) Glad you enjoyed what you saw!
Agreed! He Rodney does such a fantastic job!
Excellent video as always. I do think there might be slight rules error though. At 6:15 you mentioned that a butterfly cannot get a token from any space another butterfly started it's turn on but the example in the rulebook (pg.9) does exactly that. They send a newly hatched butterfly from one space to the space another butterfly started their turn on.
A very good catch Loic. I should have stated the rule as "a butterfly can't collect a flower token from the space IT started on, or from any space that ANY of its butterflies already collected from that turn." I merged two rules together in a confusing way. Will make a note to correct this in the description and as a pinned comment.
@@WatchItPlayed Gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks Rodney!
My wife made a butterfly garden in our yard, so I think this one would be easy to sell to her.