Gorgeous work. This is the kind of creativity that keeps me up at night. You constantly give me ideas on new ways to use my cnc and how to incorporate that into boat builds and modification projects.
I'm glad it's not just me that goes to sleep thinking of things I can make on my machine 😆 there is lots more coming to the channel along these lines. I am also in the early stages of planning a CNC router course which I am hoping to launch soon!
@@DanLeeBoatbuildingHi Dan. Great and ambitious project you are taking on. Regarding the stainless steel parts I might be able to get you in touch with a local fabricator in Rotterdam to get a quotation. One thing I was wondering about was if the design has a way to mount the glass? I cannot see any rubber to mount the glass. Best regards from the Netherlands.
Hi Dan, Looking at how the part is designed there wouldn’t be much room for the weld to be hidden. With the amount of surface area you have in that groove, brazing would be more than sufficient and the route I’d probably go down. Plus there’s less chance of distortion and porosity later down the line. I know there are brazing rods that work well with 316SS (which would be the preferred alloy for marine environments) As for the brackets on to the planking, they’d easily be tacked in place and then welded out. I have a plasma CNC and a slip roller that should be capable of doing 6mm 316SS, not sure of the size of your full size part though. If you want to send me over the information I’d be happy to look at it for you. I currently don’t have a mill capable of making the main bracket but that’s a part that can easily be outsourced. I live in Oxford so not too far from you!
Dan - Please buy the welder and sell me the first set of stainless steel windshield brackets you make! I am Polymerman; I know wood and epoxy; not metal and ceramics. Seriously, I want to buy all of the custom parts from you directly.
I’m not sure you’d want the first set, they might not be the best 😆 I’m the same really, wood and epoxy is my thing, soft metals if I can treat them like wood but stainless is a different level! Mind you I guess you are probably about a year off needing some windscreen brackets? Things might have moved on a bit at my shop by then 🤔
It really isn't that tricky a job. But yes, as a fabricator I thoroughly recommend getting your own welder and doing it yourself, it will pay for itself in no time. Stainless TIG is a pretty pleasant process as far as welding goes.
Those welding rods have a higher tensile strength then aluminum. You could well weld a complete boat together with them. The only problem is how well do they keep up to corrosion..... Btw how thick would that inox ( stainless ) be ?? Cause you could well make a cnc press mold for the curvature but you'll need 2 molds which are 3d Cnc'ed. for a faster and cleaner mold it will have to be a capable 4Axis cnc. And looking at the design it has a bend AND twist to it. Btw you make some really awesome stuff there !! Hmz you already have that model of the mold cause that was that piece of wood you superimposed underneath it. Why not Glue some really strong wood like Bankirai. and just mill that with your cnc. Add extra connection holes to the piece that need to be rolled. screw it down and just go for it! once you have the bend and twist ANY welder will take this job on it just welding. I think this part is not thar hard at all... Now if you say this is like 12mm thick. you need so help rolling or pulling into form. there are various technics you could actually do in your shop already. 2 part mold with all thread and pull them together, rolling, and or Rubber press like they make wing internal parts. but that last one just works on think metal. wish i had some inox plate now..... i would have gave it a shot.
That's good to know. Yeah not sure how well they corrode, Aluminium in general isn't that great, especially if you want to keep it polished. The full size brackets would be 1/4" stainless. They should form fine on a roller, although it looks like it there is no twist to them, just a uniform roll. I expect ali would form ok in a wood mould though, even at full size probably. Could be annealed as well of course.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding depends on the thickness you have a cnc machine you could make a male and female mold then add a piece of inox and press them inside with 4 bars off all thread which you just screw together the power you can accumulate is insane!! i have a small cnc router 6090 and a rf45 mill with a diy cnc conversion on it. i could go 4 axis and mill a press mold but i think hard wood would do fine at first eventually if you would need more pieces then you could think of letting that mold be made. Also good practice cause you could to many more stuff with that Technik in your shop and it does not break the bank either. but all depends on how think you want the stainless to be. 3mm thick would be advisable i think to start and it will be plenty strong . Also note when you weld inox the welded part will rust! the chrome gets burned out of the metal. So heating inox is not such a good idea it damages the chrome content. To indeed cold forming is the way to go.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding aluminum for that use should be anodized then epoxy painted dual protection it will hold for a good amount of time but inox is far superior for that application. i would not anneal inox !! the chrome in inox will beak down and you will get rust 1/4 is about 6mm ISH you bolt that mold down with a roller system you add a hydraulic car jack to that and off you go. well i would use my car dent repair kit for that it has a hydraulic jack with a push arm.
Dan, you are a great teacher, and, like some great teachers, a true inspiration. Thanks so much for this content.
Thanks Mark 🙏 interesting that you should say that, there is something exciting on the horizon regarding teaching… more should be revealed soon 🙂
Beautiful work!😊
Great job, Dan!! That looks amazing. Can’t wait to see it on the model.
Looks fantastic
Great job! Following each step of this master piece. Maybe one day I build one of yours Temptress
handy work there. opened my eyes to some new ideas
Very cool. They turned out great!
Nice design would be great bit a bling for the boat
Gorgeous work. This is the kind of creativity that keeps me up at night. You constantly give me ideas on new ways to use my cnc and how to incorporate that into boat builds and modification projects.
I'm glad it's not just me that goes to sleep thinking of things I can make on my machine 😆 there is lots more coming to the channel along these lines. I am also in the early stages of planning a CNC router course which I am hoping to launch soon!
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding Awesome!
Not bad for a rough job. Seriously, very nice work.
😁 👍
@@DanLeeBoatbuildingHi Dan. Great and ambitious project you are taking on.
Regarding the stainless steel parts I might be able to get you in touch with a local fabricator in Rotterdam to get a quotation.
One thing I was wondering about was if the design has a way to mount the glass? I cannot see any rubber to mount the glass.
Best regards from the Netherlands.
I would defiantly be interested in a 1/4 scale plan/model.
Hi Dan,
Looking at how the part is designed there wouldn’t be much room for the weld to be hidden. With the amount of surface area you have in that groove, brazing would be more than sufficient and the route I’d probably go down. Plus there’s less chance of distortion and porosity later down the line.
I know there are brazing rods that work well with 316SS (which would be the preferred alloy for marine environments)
As for the brackets on to the planking, they’d easily be tacked in place and then welded out.
I have a plasma CNC and a slip roller that should be capable of doing 6mm 316SS, not sure of the size of your full size part though.
If you want to send me over the information I’d be happy to look at it for you. I currently don’t have a mill capable of making the main bracket but that’s a part that can easily be outsourced. I live in Oxford so not too far from you!
Dan - Please buy the welder and sell me the first set of stainless steel windshield brackets you make!
I am Polymerman; I know wood and epoxy; not metal and ceramics. Seriously, I want to buy all of the custom parts from you directly.
I’m not sure you’d want the first set, they might not be the best 😆 I’m the same really, wood and epoxy is my thing, soft metals if I can treat them like wood but stainless is a different level!
Mind you I guess you are probably about a year off needing some windscreen brackets? Things might have moved on a bit at my shop by then 🤔
It really isn't that tricky a job. But yes, as a fabricator I thoroughly recommend getting your own welder and doing it yourself, it will pay for itself in no time. Stainless TIG is a pretty pleasant process as far as welding goes.
Yes I like the idea of that. I'd also like to be able to make manifolds so it would be a skill worth learning I think.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding Go for it, you are a clever chap I'm sure it is well within your abilities, as long as you can find the time :)
awesome job Dan ! what aluminum brazing rod did you use?
Thanks! They are a product called Durafix easy weld rods.
"Promosm"
Those welding rods have a higher tensile strength then aluminum.
You could well weld a complete boat together with them.
The only problem is how well do they keep up to corrosion.....
Btw how thick would that inox ( stainless ) be ??
Cause you could well make a cnc press mold for the curvature but you'll need 2 molds which are 3d Cnc'ed.
for a faster and cleaner mold it will have to be a capable 4Axis cnc.
And looking at the design it has a bend AND twist to it.
Btw you make some really awesome stuff there !!
Hmz
you already have that model of the mold cause that was that piece of wood you superimposed underneath it.
Why not Glue some really strong wood like Bankirai.
and just mill that with your cnc.
Add extra connection holes to the piece that need to be rolled.
screw it down and just go for it!
once you have the bend and twist ANY welder will take this job on it just welding.
I think this part is not thar hard at all...
Now if you say this is like 12mm thick.
you need so help rolling or pulling into form.
there are various technics you could actually do in your shop already.
2 part mold with all thread and pull them together, rolling, and or Rubber press like they make wing internal parts.
but that last one just works on think metal.
wish i had some inox plate now.....
i would have gave it a shot.
That's good to know. Yeah not sure how well they corrode, Aluminium in general isn't that great, especially if you want to keep it polished. The full size brackets would be 1/4" stainless. They should form fine on a roller, although it looks like it there is no twist to them, just a uniform roll. I expect ali would form ok in a wood mould though, even at full size probably. Could be annealed as well of course.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding You really would want to anneal it, even if it bends ok it will develop fractures in the structure of the metal.
Ah I see. Would probably bend cold anyway I guess as it’s not that severe?
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding depends on the thickness you have a cnc machine you could make a male and female mold then add a piece of inox and press them inside with 4 bars off all thread which you just screw together the power you can accumulate is insane!!
i have a small cnc router 6090
and a rf45 mill with a diy cnc conversion on it.
i could go 4 axis and mill a press mold but i think hard wood would do fine at first eventually if you would need more pieces then you could think of letting that mold be made.
Also good practice cause you could to many more stuff with that Technik in your shop and it does not break the bank either.
but all depends on how think you want the stainless to be.
3mm thick would be advisable i think to start and it will be plenty strong .
Also note when you weld inox the welded part will rust!
the chrome gets burned out of the metal.
So heating inox is not such a good idea it damages the chrome content.
To indeed cold forming is the way to go.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding aluminum for that use should be anodized then epoxy painted dual protection it will hold for a good amount of time but inox is far superior for that application.
i would not anneal inox !!
the chrome in inox will beak down and you will get rust 1/4 is about 6mm ISH you bolt that mold down with a roller system you add a hydraulic car jack to that and off you go.
well i would use my car dent repair kit for that it has a hydraulic jack with a push arm.