This is how I leant spanish lmao just watching youtube, I cant speak it but I can read and write it which is helpful and then I had a friend who figure out I was able to somewhat understand it and whenever we messages would only write in spanish to help me practice and help them use their language as none of their other friends knew spanish, sometimes they even spoke it in person or on the phone and I would just trans;ate for other friends or just reply in english and confuse people as we were speaking in two different languages but understanding each other, had to explain itto a few people who actually asked questions
The key thing to watching a bunch of youtube in your target language is to make a new youtube profile and only watch videos in that language. That way all of the recommended videos on you timeline will be in that language, instead of english. I have separate accounts for Spanish and Russian and all of the recommendations are in those languages.
Well that's exactly what I did for the past 10 years, something like that, and I'm just 19 My accent isn't that good though II'm pretty sure that you still need to start speaking the language a lot everyday to reach the level that he has
The dude was at a prime age for picking up language with immersion though. So far I don't think its possible to learn a language without heavy immersion and input, but as adult learners I think we can benefit from more traditional tuition in the language as well. My guess is, if you had maybe 20% of your time on traditional teaching methods and the rest on immersion you can make the connections in your brain a bit faster, than immersion alone. The traditional teaching techniques might help compensate for having a less plasticy brain. Things are explained to you and then you start to realise those concepts during immersion.
That's more honest and sensible than what the polyglots keep thinking that input, no study and immersion alone will make you some language learning genius. Also, like you said a young child's brain is different from an adult and even a teen so different methods have to be employed to ensure that you have success. Also, why do people act like young children and teens don't learn at school as well with their L1 and L2. Not to mention, they get secondary input from educated older kids and adults in throughout their lives as well. Regarding study, I would say playing with the traditional method at something like anywhere between 20-40% could be good too. Sometimes, some days of immersion mixed with higher percentages of traditional learning. Mixing the levels and percentages not just accepting blind faith narratives in polyglottery. You play around with things to shake things up, but you don't completely abandon traditional methods because they're hard and unsavory. Just because they don't always produce immediate success and can be boring. Not just following the me fluency pathway of so many polyglots. Different intervals of this and that over time. Like, studying grammar and finding and coming up with more layman's terms that allow you the levity to keep getting real results and wrap your head around rules related to your target language. You learn and unlearn things, so you have to ensure that you are not just regurgitating stock phrases and filler that can be wooden/archaic and too academic statements from textbooks and older material from different sources. The real truth is there are loads of people that lived in foreign countries and failed to learn different languages. So, this idea that input and immersion is the only way you can truly learn and be successful is denying reality. You can't just be around it you have to study and use it. Through listening, speaking, reading and writing. The polyglot community is selling a dream and narrative that this is the only way like a religion. No these are just additional ways to learn alongside with more traditional approaches it's just another avenue to go down to aide in your learning.
@@Komatik_ That too, kids have more time to fail and succeed which means a lot versus an adult who has a job and other responsibilities that consume their time.
Politely disagree. The issue isn't about plasticity. It's about adults trying to constantly analyze the language/game the language through knowledge of rules or patterns to more efficiently/faster speak it, but this disrupts everything and interferes with the process. Most adults don't want to spend the time listening, they don't have the patience, so they learn ABOUT the language, instead of the language itself. I would only recommend learning the grammar after you have a good degree of spoken fluency and when do you learn the grammar, learn the grammar that native speakers of that language learn. For example I never learned the 12 verb tenses in English when I was in school, I only learned it after becoming a TEFL teacher. Note that did I see a verb conjugation chart until I took a Spanish class. I did however learn about active and passive voice in English classes for writing... So, I disagree that the brain has anything to do with it, I think the attitude does. If an adult can just be patient and listen without trying to game the process, they can and have learned just like children. See this website for more information algworld.com/, not the person who runs this school in Thailand learned this way. And also read about J Marvin Brown Ph.D linguistics Cornell. Please note my opinion is based on reading about this subject from linguistic experts (Krashen, Brown, and Winitz) for years and it is not my guess or hasty deduction. I welcome any sourced new information though that would challenge this view.
Really relatable video if you ask me. I grew up in Switzerland and was born in the Philippines, and the two languages I learnt were Swiss German and German. I didn't really understand English though since it was hard. I think when I was around 5: i just learnt english through watching TH-cam, and, I guess to english speaking people, whose mothertongue isn't english. It's been a while since then.
My family: Hey! Put the phone down. It’s time for breakfast. Me: But MATT THO! Leave me alone! You’re preaching to the choir with me, Matt, but it’s still great to add credibility by telling other people’s stories about comprehensible input and how much better of a way it is. Can’t imagine how many hours he spent. Crossed 600 in Dreaming Spanish this month and I’m only just now feeling like I’m mostly getting it. As always, great production value and very entertaining. Your videos are the only ones I don’t watch at faster speed and whose ads I don’t skip. 😆 Thanks, Matt!
Thanks Jeff, you are a gentleman and scholar as always🙏. It certainly has produced a high level of English in Brian. I wonder at what stage exactly he started speaking but it shows you can enjoy the process and pick up a language without making it a slog! Good luck with the Spanish
This is the best news ever because this is my intention for how I want to learn Japanese. But I haven't made much progress yet. This means I need to just keep going.
Input really is one of the greatest and most important tools at pur disposal. I'm European and over the course of my formal education, I must've had somewhere around 100 classmates in various language classes (English classes with everyone and French and Spanish classes with some). Without fail, those who excelled at a given language didn't just do the homework and call it a day; they all got a lot of authentic input, be it by reading and watching TV or even by spending time abroad. I don't think there was anyone who got beyond the intermediate plateau just from traditional education alone
but the key is that he started at age 10. This is very important was only mentioned once. We live in an age where everything is online and in English so it's really not that impressive.
@@daysandwords Some of them sound close to nearly American or native English speakers. Also they speak to each other in their Scandinavian languages as well as in school. Furthermore this guy made it a point to try to sound as American as possible and consumed a shit ton of content. Seriously, It's not that impressive due to the fact that English has become the lingua-franca of the world. You'll be seeing a lot more of this in the years to come as people will abandon their native languages entirely in exchange for English. In fact it will become the norm.
This is how I leant spanish lmao just watching youtube, I cant speak it but I can read and write it which is helpful and then I had a friend who figure out I was able to somewhat understand it and whenever we messages would only write in spanish to help me practice and help them use their language as none of their other friends knew spanish, sometimes they even spoke it in person or on the phone and I would just trans;ate for other friends or just reply in english and confuse people as we were speaking in two different languages but understanding each other, had to explain itto a few people who actually asked questions
Now i'm teaching myself a third language through my second language
His accent is fantastic for an east Asian! Just wow!
He speaks English better than I do, and English is my one and only language 😢
The key thing to watching a bunch of youtube in your target language is to make a new youtube profile and only watch videos in that language. That way all of the recommended videos on you timeline will be in that language, instead of english. I have separate accounts for Spanish and Russian and all of the recommendations are in those languages.
That’s a great idea, my recommendations are all over the place
Why do you need russian?
@@runforjoypsn talking to my in-laws
That's so true, actually I'm learning french now from you videos in english that's is not native for me, but i really like your approach.
english just spawn in my head one day
Thanks
Yeah that is how i taught myself english
Well that's exactly what I did for the past 10 years, something like that, and I'm just 19
My accent isn't that good though II'm pretty sure that you still need to start speaking the language a lot everyday to reach the level that he has
Another Indonesian, his name Fiki Naki, learn English, Russian and Spanish from youtube. He can speak fluently as well. You may check him.
The dude was at a prime age for picking up language with immersion though. So far I don't think its possible to learn a language without heavy immersion and input, but as adult learners I think we can benefit from more traditional tuition in the language as well. My guess is, if you had maybe 20% of your time on traditional teaching methods and the rest on immersion you can make the connections in your brain a bit faster, than immersion alone. The traditional teaching techniques might help compensate for having a less plasticy brain. Things are explained to you and then you start to realise those concepts during immersion.
That's more honest and sensible than what the polyglots keep thinking that input, no study and immersion alone will make you some language learning genius. Also, like you said a young child's brain is different from an adult and even a teen so different methods have to be employed to ensure that you have success. Also, why do people act like young children and teens don't learn at school as well with their L1 and L2.
Not to mention, they get secondary input from educated older kids and adults in throughout their lives as well. Regarding study, I would say playing with the traditional method at something like anywhere between 20-40% could be good too. Sometimes, some days of immersion mixed with higher percentages of traditional learning. Mixing the levels and percentages not just accepting blind faith narratives in polyglottery.
You play around with things to shake things up, but you don't completely abandon traditional methods because they're hard and unsavory. Just because they don't always produce immediate success and can be boring. Not just following the me fluency pathway of so many polyglots. Different intervals of this and that over time. Like, studying grammar and finding and coming up with more layman's terms that allow you the levity to keep getting real results and wrap your head around rules related to your target language. You learn and unlearn things, so you have to ensure that you are not just regurgitating stock phrases and filler that can be wooden/archaic and too academic statements from textbooks and older material from different sources.
The real truth is there are loads of people that lived in foreign countries and failed to learn different languages.
So, this idea that input and immersion is the only way you can truly learn and be successful is denying reality. You can't just be around it you have to study and use it. Through listening, speaking, reading and writing.
The polyglot community is selling a dream and narrative that this is the only way like a religion. No these are just additional ways to learn alongside with more traditional approaches it's just another avenue to go down to aide in your learning.
I don't know if it's that much about the plasticity, and more kids just having ungodly amounts of time and pure enthusiasm to throw at the task.
@@Komatik_ That too, kids have more time to fail and succeed which means a lot versus an adult who has a job and other responsibilities that consume their time.
Politely disagree. The issue isn't about plasticity. It's about adults trying to constantly analyze the language/game the language through knowledge of rules or patterns to more efficiently/faster speak it, but this disrupts everything and interferes with the process. Most adults don't want to spend the time listening, they don't have the patience, so they learn ABOUT the language, instead of the language itself. I would only recommend learning the grammar after you have a good degree of spoken fluency and when do you learn the grammar, learn the grammar that native speakers of that language learn. For example I never learned the 12 verb tenses in English when I was in school, I only learned it after becoming a TEFL teacher. Note that did I see a verb conjugation chart until I took a Spanish class. I did however learn about active and passive voice in English classes for writing... So, I disagree that the brain has anything to do with it, I think the attitude does. If an adult can just be patient and listen without trying to game the process, they can and have learned just like children. See this website for more information algworld.com/, not the person who runs this school in Thailand learned this way. And also read about J Marvin Brown Ph.D linguistics Cornell. Please note my opinion is based on reading about this subject from linguistic experts (Krashen, Brown, and Winitz) for years and it is not my guess or hasty deduction. I welcome any sourced new information though that would challenge this view.
This video reminds me of the fact that english isn't my first language 😂 lol
What about if you don't have someone to speak and to practice the language with?
Tandem’
Really relatable video if you ask me. I grew up in Switzerland and was born in the Philippines, and the two languages I learnt were Swiss German and German. I didn't really understand English though since it was hard. I think when I was around 5: i just learnt english through watching TH-cam, and, I guess to english speaking people, whose mothertongue isn't english. It's been a while since then.
My family: Hey! Put the phone down. It’s time for breakfast.
Me: But MATT THO! Leave me alone!
You’re preaching to the choir with me, Matt, but it’s still great to add credibility by telling other people’s stories about comprehensible input and how much better of a way it is. Can’t imagine how many hours he spent. Crossed 600 in Dreaming Spanish this month and I’m only just now feeling like I’m mostly getting it.
As always, great production value and very entertaining. Your videos are the only ones I don’t watch at faster speed and whose ads I don’t skip. 😆 Thanks, Matt!
Thanks Jeff, you are a gentleman and scholar as always🙏. It certainly has produced a high level of English in Brian. I wonder at what stage exactly he started speaking but it shows you can enjoy the process and pick up a language without making it a slog! Good luck with the Spanish
Matt, your voice and accent are the same of the Henry Cavil and Hugh Grant. Am i wrong?
This is the best news ever because this is my intention for how I want to learn Japanese. But I haven't made much progress yet. This means I need to just keep going.
Input really is one of the greatest and most important tools at pur disposal. I'm European and over the course of my formal education, I must've had somewhere around 100 classmates in various language classes (English classes with everyone and French and Spanish classes with some). Without fail, those who excelled at a given language didn't just do the homework and call it a day; they all got a lot of authentic input, be it by reading and watching TV or even by spending time abroad. I don't think there was anyone who got beyond the intermediate plateau just from traditional education alone
It's easier for me to understand his English than yours 😅
but the key is that he started at age 10. This is very important was only mentioned once. We live in an age where everything is online and in English so it's really not that impressive.
Scandinavians start English from pretty much birth, yet they get to adults sounding very clearly SweDISH, Daeh-nish and Norweejjean.
@@daysandwords Some of them sound close to nearly American or native English speakers. Also they speak to each other in their Scandinavian languages as well as in school. Furthermore this guy made it a point to try to sound as American as possible and consumed a shit ton of content. Seriously, It's not that impressive due to the fact that English has become the lingua-franca of the world. You'll be seeing a lot more of this in the years to come as people will abandon their native languages entirely in exchange for English. In fact it will become the norm.