I have several Lionel turbines, including a 1946 version with the original smoke bulb unit. They are by far my favorite Lionel steamer. Awesome pulling power, and one of the easiest to disassemble and service.
Very enjoyable and enlightening, so worthy of my subscription to your channel. Last year I acquired a mint, unrun, factory fresh 1949 set #2153WS complete with all boxed peripherals. Holding a pristine 671 locomotive in your hands is one of life's true joys. I look forward to more quality videos of postwar Lionel trains from your channel.
In 1952 Lionel produced the 671RR.This loco lacked magnatraction because of the Korean War,the magnetic material was at war as Lionel advertised. Magna traction returned in 1953.Now Lionel puts traction tires on their steamers!
Great history and video. I love the turbine. I’ve had a few: a couple 671s, a couple 681s, and the MPC era 6200. All have been great engines. One of the 671s had the optional weight inside and pulled almost as well as a 681 with Magnetraction.
As a kid I had the 671 and the 2020. The 2020 had a smoke bulb but the 671 had a smoke unit. Both were excellent pullers. Even though the 2020 was the 027 version, they were both identical except for the electronics. The 2020 had a wire swap to reverse and the 671 had the old E unit reverser.
Excellent historical commentary and cool jazz as an addition!! ❤ I grew up in Pass Christian, Mississippi so have never been exposed to the super rail power that the folks up north have so this is especially interesting. Thanks for taking the time to do such a great review!!
Just got a 1946 671 from eBay! At first it was a weak puller. After cleaning the brushes and commutator, some grease and oil. Boom! Not breaking any land speed records but it now pulls all the cars in my collection 15+!
Thank you for sharing this video it was very knowledgeable I too have a 671 train set found in the Attic of a family member that had passed away never opened up
I love your history of the Lionel turbines and the corresponding history of the real thing. You have an excellent speaking voice BTW. As an original owner of a 682 I think that the bell crank on the unit pictured is on backwards. I know that this has been a on going point of contention with 682 owners. I also noted that you showed a turbine with twin smoke stacks. I have not seen that on any models. Curious. Thanks for the video. I will keep it in my archives.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words. You may be right about the bell crank, and as it turns out, the rigors of filming this video caused it to come off! :( I'll have to fix it :). The Lionel smoke stack is only one hole, but if you look closely at the diecast molding on the model, you can see they detailed it to appear as if it was two, just like the "real thing".
It is ,on mine and all other photos.Disconnect it from the axle ,NOT from the boiler ,it's pressed in and can break off.Its fragile. Great engines. I carefully drilled out the stud and pushed in the replacement with a little contact cement. It's not threaded. It's just pressed in
Thank you! I've gained a better appreciation for them after doing some research on it for this video. It really is an interesting story about how the design of this locomotive is very effective -- as long as you right size it. Not at 1:1, but at O scale.
Oh, and one more thing: Today’s model 0 and 027 semi gauge are fraught with electrical problems, thus making them fun to own but one never knows when their electronics will fry away one’s fun !!
Thanks for asking! That is my ON30 Narrow Gauge Coal delivery line to the power station (above), Sharpnack #6. Its a Bachmann Spectrum 2-6-0, highly weathered. You see it in action here: th-cam.com/users/shortsjh99s44HiWY and More info here: th-cam.com/video/wcxT0m1D_dc/w-d-xo.html
I have a 682 which came with a Lionel Lines tender that differs from that Pennsylvania tender. I got it for Xmas in early 60s what can u tell me about it? Thanks so 6:21 much
If the 6200 worked well at low speeds, it would have provided tractive effort throughout the entire rotation of the drivers and not just beyond top & bottom dead centers.
Hi! To my knowledge the only difference was that the 2020 was for o27 gauge sets and 671 was for 0 gauge. I think that was just with the sets they were sold with, no difference of consequence otherwise.
I’d love to, although I don’t have a 224 yet! Looks like I need to pick one up. Unless you have some footage you want to share, and then I can do it! Stay tuned!
@@cmcgloughlin I can do some recording at the Foley train depot I volunteer at. I have to fix the light first. I can also record a mkt engine for ya I can do that for ya Instead.
Lionel's F3 might have something to say about being the best-selling engine. That said, love my 2020 turbine. As for the 6200, it might've been more sucessful if it had been geared for slower speeds and hadn't been loaded full of gee whiz features that ultimately were extra points of failure. The Swedes had the M3t turbine locomotives. Stupid simple, geared for freight service with conventional boilers and no condensors or other gimcracks, and the turbines were controlled with conventional throttle valves like a reicropcating locomotive. Ran for decades with no problems, one still is in working order and is preseved.
hi there i have the 671 from 1946 and i also have the 2020 work train from 1948 and the 682 work train from 1954 and they are mint condition or near mint. tom
This is my take: Regardless of nation of origin, I prefer the postwar because they aren’t reliant on digital technology. If one of these postwar engines break I can fix it. Current lionel has microchips and digital components and if they break then I just have to get it fixed at the store- no learning takes place and I just am frustrated.
Steam turbine and steamships work while because they tend to run in their most efficient range all the time. Locomotive do not run flat out all the time and when the steam turbine was run at anything other than flat-out it was inefficient and difficult to work with. A nice try but a pitiful failure.
I have several Lionel turbines, including a 1946 version with the original smoke bulb unit. They are by far my favorite Lionel steamer. Awesome pulling power, and one of the easiest to disassemble and service.
If it weren’t for Lionel nobody other than hard-core rail enthusiast would remember the 6200
That’s what I was thinking. Thanks for watching!
Very enjoyable and enlightening, so worthy of my subscription to your channel. Last year I acquired a mint, unrun, factory fresh 1949 set #2153WS complete with all boxed peripherals. Holding a pristine 671 locomotive in your hands is one of life's true joys. I look forward to more quality videos of postwar Lionel trains from your channel.
In 1952 Lionel produced the 671RR.This loco lacked magnatraction because of the Korean War,the magnetic material was at war as Lionel advertised. Magna traction returned in 1953.Now Lionel puts traction tires on their steamers!
Great history and video.
I love the turbine. I’ve had a few: a couple 671s, a couple 681s, and the MPC era 6200. All have been great engines. One of the 671s had the optional weight inside and pulled almost as well as a 681 with Magnetraction.
Cool. That’s interesting about the optional weight. How was it optional, did some versions have it and some not?
@@cmcgloughlin I’m not sure if it was a production date thing but i know it could be added later.
As a kid I had the 671 and the 2020. The 2020 had a smoke bulb but the 671 had a smoke unit. Both were excellent pullers. Even though the 2020 was the 027 version, they were both identical except for the electronics. The 2020 had a wire swap to reverse and the 671 had the old E unit reverser.
thanks for the information! and for watching.
The bulb smoke unit and the drive system in your 2020 was for one year only, the following year the Drive system and smoke unit were replaced
Thanks for educating me on the Turbines.
Excellent historical commentary and cool jazz as an addition!! ❤ I grew up in Pass Christian, Mississippi so have never been exposed to the super rail power that the folks up north have so this is especially interesting. Thanks for taking the time to do such a great review!!
Great video. I just got my first 681. It’s now one of my favorites to run & I’m aiming to get a 682. Thank you for the information.
Thanks for watching!!
Great tribute to a legendary engine. Great pullers and great smokers! Thanks for making this video.
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Thanks
Just got a 1946 671 from eBay! At first it was a weak puller. After cleaning the brushes and commutator, some grease and oil. Boom! Not breaking any land speed records but it now pulls all the cars in my collection 15+!
Thank you for sharing this video it was very knowledgeable I too have a 671 train set found in the Attic of a family member that had passed away never opened up
I love your history of the Lionel turbines and the corresponding history of the real thing. You have an excellent speaking voice BTW. As an original owner of a 682 I think that the bell crank on the unit pictured is on backwards. I know that this has been a on going point of contention with 682 owners. I also noted that you showed a turbine with twin smoke stacks. I have not seen that on any models. Curious. Thanks for the video. I will keep it in my archives.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words. You may be right about the bell crank, and as it turns out, the rigors of filming this video caused it to come off! :( I'll have to fix it :). The Lionel smoke stack is only one hole, but if you look closely at the diecast molding on the model, you can see they detailed it to appear as if it was two, just like the "real thing".
It is ,on mine and all other photos.Disconnect it from the axle ,NOT from the boiler ,it's pressed in and can break off.Its fragile. Great engines. I carefully drilled out the stud and pushed in the replacement with a little contact cement. It's not threaded. It's just pressed in
Well done, thanks for the video
Excellent job on the video. I don't have any turbines(yet). Better start looking 😜
Thank you! I've gained a better appreciation for them after doing some research on it for this video. It really is an interesting story about how the design of this locomotive is very effective -- as long as you right size it. Not at 1:1, but at O scale.
Good Job. 👏🏼
Grate video.
Oh, and one more thing: Today’s model 0 and 027 semi gauge are fraught with electrical problems, thus making them fun to own but one never knows when their electronics will fry away one’s fun !!
Great to see this Lionel post war American made engine.
Hope to hear from you.
Thanks for watching. It’s a really fascinating story
I am curious what model the 2-6-0 locomotive is at time 6:17 on the 2nd track in the background under the overpass?
Thanks for asking! That is my ON30 Narrow Gauge Coal delivery line to the power station (above), Sharpnack #6. Its a Bachmann Spectrum 2-6-0, highly weathered. You see it in action here: th-cam.com/users/shortsjh99s44HiWY and More info here: th-cam.com/video/wcxT0m1D_dc/w-d-xo.html
I have a 682 which came with a Lionel Lines tender that differs from that Pennsylvania tender. I got it for Xmas in early 60s what can u tell me about it? Thanks so 6:21 much
If the 6200 worked well at low speeds, it would have provided tractive effort throughout the entire rotation of the drivers and not just beyond top & bottom dead centers.
i own a lionel 2020 and man i love it its a hualer i just crack my zw throttle just a little and it goes man such a nice engine.
Nice! My kw is on the fritz gotta get it fixed . Thanks for watching
Weren't all Lionel built in Irvington New Jersey back then ?
When you run your 671 for 20 to 30 minutes does the engine and brush cylinders get very hot? After weeks of running does the engine speed diminish?
The Pennsylvania RR built one turbine as an experiment. Lionel built at least 10,000.
How does the 2020 differ from a 671?sliding shoe vs pick up roller?
Hi! To my knowledge the only difference was that the 2020 was for o27 gauge sets and 671 was for 0 gauge. I think that was just with the sets they were sold with, no difference of consequence otherwise.
Thanks I need to get another Turbine
The only difference in the two (provided they were built the same year) was the number on the cab.
I would love to see a race between all 3 turbine models. To see how much the magnatraction makes a difference and time for the 671 and the 682.
My 671 is by FAR the worst postwar locomotive I own. Can’t WAIT to sell it and grab a 682
could you do a video on the 224 perhaps steam engine i own that one and it still runs.
I’d love to, although I don’t have a 224 yet! Looks like I need to pick one up. Unless you have some footage you want to share, and then I can do it! Stay tuned!
@@cmcgloughlin I can do some recording at the Foley train depot I volunteer at. I have to fix the light first. I can also record a mkt engine for ya I can do that for ya Instead.
Hey I do some footage from my house I stead for the mkt sw1 switcher for ya
Lionel's F3 might have something to say about being the best-selling engine. That said, love my 2020 turbine.
As for the 6200, it might've been more sucessful if it had been geared for slower speeds and hadn't been loaded full of gee whiz features that ultimately were extra points of failure.
The Swedes had the M3t turbine locomotives. Stupid simple, geared for freight service with conventional boilers and no condensors or other gimcracks, and the turbines were controlled with conventional throttle valves like a reicropcating locomotive. Ran for decades with no problems, one still is in working order and is preseved.
I Have A Few Of These Myself, I Like Them . I Have A 2000 Model By MTH That Its Not Scale But Its Not O27 Either, Somewhere Between Big Engine.
I’ve seen those those are nice engines. Thanks for watching!
It's ironic ,as the original engine was a failure, the toy model of it was a great success
so close to being LGR for lionel
hi there i have the 671 from 1946 and i also have the 2020 work train from 1948 and the 682 work train from 1954 and they are mint condition or near mint. tom
Steam turbine might have worked out better on the New York Central with his flat water level route.
Thanks, did not know Lionel's history on this model. How did you get Alec Baldwin to narrate your video? 😉
I just stuck a bottle brush down my throat and bingo! No but really that’s what I sound like. Too many cigars :)
This guy sounds like Batman….
I prefer to sound like this guy th-cam.com/video/s2aqQTqsNMI/w-d-xo.html
I got a Lionel 2020
These postwar engines will out live the China made modern engines. No doubt.
This is my take: Regardless of nation of origin, I prefer the postwar because they aren’t reliant on digital technology. If one of these postwar engines break I can fix it. Current lionel has microchips and digital components and if they break then I just have to get it fixed at the store- no learning takes place and I just am frustrated.
Yes ,getting new circuit boards in twenty years ? You will see the beatifull scale engines on the shelf,and old engines still running on the tracks.
Bonks trains, "Bonk! Bonk I say!" th-cam.com/video/jhAjVDU7GVg/w-d-xo.html
Steam turbine and steamships work while because they tend to run in their most efficient range all the time. Locomotive do not run flat out all the time and when the steam turbine was run at anything other than flat-out it was inefficient and difficult to work with. A nice try but a pitiful failure.
I remember hearing that the original locomotive was a failure ,whereas the toy model of it was a great success.🏆🚂🚃🚃🚃
It's ironic ,as the original engine was a failure, the toy model of it was a great success