what I learned: -the reason sometimes units randomly had 0% recruit chance was because some abnormal status effects(like charm, sleep, etc) make recruiting impossible -frightened and breached stack(very well) -descriptions that say "increase melee damage" are actually talking about physical damage, possible mistranslation (beastslayer for ex)
I think I'm seeing a repeat of what was happening during the PSP release of the game in which people would get stuck on certain places without knowing exactly what they had at their disposal to overcome their problem. Now it's not a "You are missing an Anatomy/Augment Element" problem, it is a "Maybe having a gameplan or two with your team could solve the issue". Reborn gives the player so many avenues to explore and find combinations that can make fights really easy to handle. Specially when the Union level is telling you that at that level you should be able to handle whatever they throw at you currently, even teams with higher level like this fight.
People were complaining about the Leonar fight on gamefaqs. I had an upgraded zweihander i mighty impact and it inflicted breach on him then vyce raped him with rending gale and a double attack lmfao.
@@sweetlil1096 I got smashed on my first go of the Law Leaonar fight, next fight I used...a magic leaf+1 and the fight was easy. I was just so used to going smork smork like LUCT but I appreciate a lot of the smaller nuances this edition brings and makes you actually well...play tactically in a tactics game
Hard to believe it's possible to have any difficulty against Leonar. It's so easy it's not even funny. What was slightly annoying was winning without Vyce dying. Really hard is Hektor who already starts with 2 damage cards and 2 MP recovery cards. Hektor was a challenge to win by killing all enemies and not letting any ally fall or die.
It was love at first sight when i set eyes on that zweihander terror knight build. I really wish you make a "One Class, X builds" series where X depends on how far you're willing to go. It would give us beginners more insight into different ways to build a class.
heck yeah first! i really really enjoy your content and channel your unbelievable passion for the game had me scooping this up quickly. i was introduced to SRPGs through Final Fantasy Tactics & Disgaea 2 well over a decade ago now but never got to play Tactics Ogre, your coverage made it clear i had to play this and i really appreciate you for making beginner tip videos because despite being a veteran in the genre Tactics Ogre has a lot going on and has been a dash overwhelming to start THANK YOU
Thank You, I love to hear this kinda stuff! It's definitely odd to get used to shifting gears into a new set of rules, but I'm really glad to see most are figuring it out this time.
Love these videos bro! You've kind of alluded to it with other tips and guides, but action economy (or even RT economy, if you wanna really get in the weeds) is hugely important concept in this game, especially against bosses. Things like Pincer Attack and any crowd control spell are my go-to examples; using 1 action to effectively get 2 attacks is great economy, and using 1 action to take away or restrict 2+ actions (sleep, stun, silence, etc) is a great trade-off. I'm really appreciating how much this game demands clever planning and good strategy instead of just letting me rely on power-built combat monsters to cleave through my enemies. It's super rewarding.
@@CoffeePotato The support spells in this game, especially CC, might have low accuracy, but they still feel incredibly efficient somehow. Speaking of CC, debuff durations seem weird to me. It doesn't seem like it's the victim's turns... What determines how long something lasts? I never pay quite enough attention to it to figure out >.
@@Poillip So that's also a function of Mind. It's kind of like they're landing RT ticks for duration instead of damage. This also happens for Debuffs. You definitely get great economy out of them, it's just harder to quantify.
@@CoffeePotato Huh... An RT duration scaling with Mind makes a lot of sense actually. It would even serve to balance fast units vs slow ones. Fast units could theoretically act more often inside the debuff duration, possibly suffering the penalties for an extra turn. Ugh now I wanna find modding tools to dig into the math >.< I've barely started the game and I'm already this invested lol
As a follow-up to your RT point, it may seem unintuitive to new players, but it is usually beneficial to do the absolute bare-minimum with your character on their turn. As an example. You've got a new Valk you're leveling up/using. On her turn, you "could" run your max distance, then shoot someone with a bow for 40-60 damage. Seems legit, right? Sure, if that's a KB that'd be fine, but if it's not, then maybe moving up a square or two then ending your turn is the better option. For one, it means your turn comes up faster. Secondly, now maybe you're in range of a healer that you're doing 140-160 damage, or that same target as before, but now you're at a closer range so maybe you'll shoot a magic missile for 80-120 damage. All the while gaining more turns because your character's turns are coming up faster because you aren't making inefficient actions. But I like throwing rocks! That's great, and it can work (seriously, everything has a use/path to greatness in this game), but more often than not, saving RT will net you more damage in the long run than that 1 point of damage from the stone toss.
And the fact that each unit starts leveled up, so you don't recruit a level 25 terror knight and he has to use level 1 gear because you've never used a terror knight before. Or forgetting all their training the moment they join you.
I agree I am having a blast. Just started Ch. 2. I was initially worried about the level cap with the union level system but it seems pretty well balanced so far.
I'm doing a no incaps run currently. The challenge is real. The AI will ruthlessly gang up on units if able, but does follow a predictable process, it will target the unit or units it can do the most damage to, or recieve the least damage in return as far as I can tell. I've seen the AI pass up a killshot for 100% accuracy attack, so I guess that's a factor as well.
I got Denam as a beast tamer, went to the forest and recruited some dragons, gave denam the dragon boost skill. And oooooo those are some big strong boys. I’m surprised their ranged attack is like as strong as an archer and seems even better range/trajectory wise.
Beast Tamer is so good. Lobber + upgrade beasts and dragons + an actual I.W.I.N. button in the form of thrown bombs. I tossed an orb in a boss fight halfway through chapter 3, and basically trivialized the whole thing, 70% of the enemy team lost half their health, making the rest of my guys able to one shot a bunch of them. And several got poisoned too. That boss battle was the easiest fight I had so far, thanks to one action from my beast tamer.
I love how in your beginner video you say "Oh, I assume you know you can craft weapons!" Um. No! I had no idea! The game NEVER bothers to explain this!!!!
It has a popup as soon as you unlock any crafting book, and also is always there on the store screen, but I get what you mean. I am in no way appallingly late to respond to messages.
I think three houses(although a pretty different game) had a better grasp on the turn-rewind mechanic specifically - limited, but still there. And I think that's sort of the sweet-spot for strategy games, being able to go back a little and retry a different strategy without having to restart, but knowing that you can't do it endlessly so you don't waste time trying to get perfect turns. I adore this game in all other aspects though so far, and it scratches that fft itch so well(or well, even more than fft did tbh but don't tell fft I said that.)
Undead units can level with XP charms! Got an early undead (level 6, iirc) and have been using her as a throw away tank/healer when exorcism isn't an issue.
Omg, just the “click the stick” to see hp bars and elements, etc. … please tell me this is not something I missed in the play guides … anyway, you sir, are the ultimate TO information source. Thank you for this!
I'm having fun in the Law route, without going back in time or letting any ally fall or die. Hektor was the game's first real challenge. Him starting with 4 cards, two damage cards, and not dying in the middle of several attacks was pretty fun. Killing all enemies in all fights is pretty interesting.
heyo can u explain Chaos Frame for new people ? iv been trying to understand it to recruit u know who but im having a hard time getting the gist of it ... thanks ;D
Chaos frame is the opinion of certain clan to Denam. The choice hes making across the game might raise or reduce CF of certain clan. Or make unit of certain clan incapped/death in battle. Technically they sacrifice themself for denam which will raise it. Make certain clan unit ress as undead will reduce the CF for reason. and some other. We dont know yet how its affect the game in reborn but in psp it was like this: Its affect starting of loyalty clan you recruit in shop. Its preq of certain character in Chaos route. High CF of certain clan will make you lose loyalty if you attack that clan unit in battle. Certain number of CF will affect Lord ending.
My first time through and I'm not very far in but I'm personally loving Denam as a warrior. Simple two handed problem solver backed up by the rest. Octopi are a helluva time but past that I'm having a blast. Thanks for the vid!
Rankable skills have been a thing since PSP. It's your weapon rank, which affects weapon and spell damage, as well as Finisher access. This goes up faster the farther you are from your level cap, and additionally raises loyalty...which isn't that useful, but it is funny to see Arycelle bottom out her Loyalty in Neutral...only to be given a dagger with a spell on it...4 weapon skills at once....and seeing her go from bottom to max loyalty in a single move.
was curious do you have a vid on parry mechanics? like: 1. does it work on spells? missile only or also indirect/summons? 2. does it work differently in melee vs. ranged? i noticed it happens more vs. melee attacks. 3. how much percent to parry at base then how much does each parry level increase? 4. how is this different from block? 5. is it boosted by any stat like agility or avoidance? i find these 2 stats useless.
@3:47 am I missing something here?? Terror knight with Zwei +1... has axe weaponskill equiped ?? @4:53 here it happens again... Soldier with greataxe... has sword skill equiped... Is this just for leveling purposes or something? Because 1) don't or do you get exp for a weaponskill you don't have equiped the weapon for? 2) why not use the right combination (axe+axe-skill, sword + sword skill) to also get their Finishing moves? @5:58.. another thing I ponder... why give canopis the dagger +1... wouldn't a ninja with 2 of those be better for the 100% silence "chance" with the added effect of them having the bridle passive to completely neuter an enemy per turn? That way you can give our flyboi some knuckles so he can literally ensure the pincer attack procs even if your enemy has a rampart frontline ??
(got sick of editting this comment on the fly; so don't flame me for commenting on my own thread) That first battle can EASILY be won if you charge in headlong too... you have a height advantage which means that if you equip some jumpers (or flyers) with bows; they can permanently lock ALL of the enemies healers by simply buffeting that line with longrange shots from your archer line.... quip a ninja with a bow/crossbow (bow works better) and giving him the silence auto-ability and you can effectively lock ALL of their magic casters out of the combat... at which point this battle becomes 10 Vs THREE (note there's a runefencer in that frontline too) Early chapter 2 you get a LOT of battles where you either have height advantage or there's a lot of chokepoints... archers reign supreme here... more often then not they can shoot at the squishy targets without those targets having the ability to hit them back... this works in most of the forest maps 2; literally MOST of the battles in there will see you have the height advantage...
Simple mixup, I wasn't going to use their finishers, and Proficiency by itself is faster, but weaker than before. Dagger ninja would be fine, most of that stuff is fairly situational. Like Canopus would carry a finisher farther, Ninja might be better for hit and runs, hell, personally I love light bow and dagger archers as my preferred shank unit. It's all viable, better is what you make it.
@@CoffeePotato I often found that bow + Dagger archers came up a few tiles short out of extended range for trying to snipe at the backline and the frontline (ofc) has loads of pierce prot so you hardly do any damage... Gave them all greatbows/longbows and haven't looked back. Likewise; (cross)bow and dagger ninja's are fun but they get neutered in damage so much I discovered I was only using them for ranged status effect infliction and not much else...it keeps the ninja safer, true, but in effect you really only have use for proc+ cards and MP+ cards (unless you go for the backline again; then they all become viable)... whereas if I give them 2x 1-Hmelee then I can ALWAYS use the proc, MP, Phys cards, leaving the Magic for my casters...it's actually LESS situational imho (more allround; so that's a plus). Sure it trades their safety for dps output... but 2x crit + Status inflict + weapon effect ... I've seen my ninja's take a BIG chunk out of stuff like dragons
@@AshAsmodeus I've liked a sort of middle ground archer every now and then, later ended up using the Vartan for this role, but the Dagger/Bow is pretty handy as a pull away unit. Whatever RT stuff is going on there exactly, they always seem to outspeed things chasing them. Makes for a great running debuff spammer.
@@CoffeePotato all cool; just comparing notes on flavours ofc. It's fun to see people have a different perspective when playing games like this... it honestly makes the game more fun as a whole to know it actually CAN be played in different styles using different methods :)
"Its not 'what is the meta" - and good lord Im getting drowned by videos for the game that are people just saying 'play this way cause its clearly the best.' Power to you for promoting fun variables as the alternative discussion. Like seriously one was like 'Denam should be Knight into Ninja for best results' and my immediate reaction was 'okay what if you want a caster Denam?'
Peasants ! Deman is a Warrior by Nature . He tanks and deliver the pain like no other MELEE as a Warrior. Mighty impact gives 100% chance to on hit effects and deals sick damage . Warrior denam , let cistina be the valk op class. 😎
Been doing alright, but healing feels really ineffective/lacking. Damage well outpaces it. Is there a way to boost healing or is this kind of intended? Side note, items are ridiculous and so useful in this game.
Once your healers get mother's blessing it doubles healing when it triggers. Make sure your healer picks up a skill buff card to get it to trigger more often. I find two skill cards gets it to trigger almost every time
Im on chapter 3 chaos route and my god the (im assuming last fight of the chapter) is brutal. Two leaders that need to be killed and one of them is an absolute beast in both damage and tankiness. Edit: I kicked they ass and it was so satisfying
Love your vids. Does the AI seem to use debuffs for you? I rarely experience it unless it is attached to a damage ability. I actually made a mage with nothing but debuff spells and let the AI control him. He then proceeded to never cast spells.
Im wondering why you have your warrior equppied with an axe but you have the two handed sword skill on it. Same with the terror knight, it has a 2 handed sword with the axe skill
Very helpful, lots of good ideas for this first time player. (Just wish you would lower the volume on that music. For gameplay, it's great. For listening to ideas explained, it's really distracting.)
Can I say , leveling up as any random class does not matter , because end game , stats can be farmed by using stats charms ? if no, what are the good classes to use to level up ?
That's pretty accurate, but don't go telling any of the spicy comments that. Generally Knight sticks out the most to me, just due to the HP boost. It's a harder one to raise.
I remember playing this game on the PS1 and it was insanely hard. I started playing it again on the Switch a week ago and it is as brutal as I remember it being.
Funny part is that this one is actually difficult in a general sense. I have a Gryphon Only run of the original coming out soon, and I kid you not, it takes only like 20 minutes to create a One Shot abomination out of a humble overpriced pigeon.
@@CoffeePotato High school me is trying to understand how you even did that. With that said, your videos have been invaluable to me when it comes to understanding this gargantuanly deep game. I used to love Final Fantasy Tactics with all my heart, but after deep-diving this game and venturing through your videos, I think I can only go back to FFT if I just want to have the fast food version of SRPGs compared to this steakhouse and seafood equivalent of a game.
I just asked the same question lol. I hope he or someone replies cause that is severely confusing now. I don’t think the axe skill does anything for that.
Hi, I’m totally new to this genre of games and I’m trying not to give up too early as your rookie/ beginner videos themselves are fairly complicated to follow especially the crowded UI. So is there a specific order in which I should be consuming your guides, I couldn’t find a playlist for reborn, so I’m left wondering if I’m actually using your videos the right way, any pointers would be appreciated!
I would say there's a better way. I wanted to make a new newbie's guide, what kind of issues are you having? (To be completely honest, after this long covering this game and doing runs in it's different forms, it's often hard to figure out what new folks are struggling with)
@@CoffeePotato So what is that better way or is that aimed towards me? I am not having one specific issue but in general the UI (I just did not for quite some time figure out how to get to the warren report which it kept harping about in the tutorial !!!!), basic stuff about what to do and how to do. If you see this video of yours you slip into complex strategy stuff straight away which is a far cry for me. So typically if you can rewind 10 steps and get into the same amount of detail you do in your videos it would truly be a newbie guide! In general the tips videos on yt are too brief and generally unclear on where to apply what, but the amount of detail you give it would really help some one like me out. Once we get comfy with the UI and fundamental mechanics then your other videos can be followed with ease. I know its easy to ask but please do consider!
Been playing the PSP version on and off until the console started dying and I never quite grasped the game (though I did finish it once, Chaos I believe). Now I'm back for Reborn on PC and loving the ease of customizing especially compared to LUCT. There's a lot in this video I did not quite realize, including just the concepts of formation, using probability and such. I'll probably find the answer somewhere in the channel (I'll look!) but something technical I never quite understood about the game is how damage works. Even now that I have a much easier time after waking up to the usefulness of Breach and Frighten, I'm sometimes baffled how some units can deal 1 to 10 damage while otthers go as high as 200+. Or how an archer goes from doing 1 to 100 damage after breaching. Damage in this game and the PSP version feels like needle teetering around a threshold, with one side being 0 and the being 100, no inbetween. Hearing "damage threshold" used as a term so casually makes me think this common knowledge to long term players? Is the needle analogy actually a thing? I'm constantly wondering what on earth I'm doing wrong lol
Here's the thing with damage. Staring at the damage formula will not internalize much. That's why I tend to use vague terms like Threshold..it's not technically a threshold, but can be thought of as one. Your big spikes come from those moments when you can punch past defenses, which means something different in every scenario. So if we imagine things like Elemental Advantage, Atk Score, Breach, Fear, etc as things to stack to push past an invisible threshold, it's easier to internalize than "we take the value from this, add it so this, multiply it by this, but only sometimes, and other times this, them we minus that from the number of toes on a nearby centipede and multiply by the weather, in order to then apply the 94x coefficient of the greater of the chicken or the egg, etc etc". Stack advantage, get number. 👍 I'm going to make a simpler damage guide soon, I did one last week, but didn't like it.
@@CoffeePotato Yeah, I did some searching around and it basically usually went like "okay, so the formula is this, so that's why certain weapons have an easier time breaking through." Which is *fine* but what I (and I imagine a lot of other people coming in) are looking for is a simple, look at this stat on the sheet, that's why. It's always super vague, but because "apply Breached, get damage" actually works really well, it's now less of a problem. On PSP, status like Breached was less accessible if I remember it right and I also tended to ignore pure status spells because of their accuracy (hence why your thought process in this video was pretty helpful) which meant I faced 1 damage in the forecast a LOT without knowing why or understanding how to deal more. Because at the end of the day, I didn't think one status proc would magically turn a 1 into a 100 (which, at the moment, actually turns into 200 and more and is amazing). Usually, I expect to have missed a key stat like "overall armor rating" that shows me how high I need to push - something simple like it's usually the case in RPGs. And then you see most people unpack the damage formula because, yeah, it's actually not that simple - it's a huge calculation in the back and no amount of looking at the stat sheet will help you. It's like with funky tech solutions (something simple like turning it on and off) - I know it works, so it's technically fine, but as to *why* it works, no clue.
I was gonna make a video about it, and you highlighted it. I am a new player to Tactics Ogre, but I love FFT and play TRPGs all the time. Frightened is GODLY. I cannot even count how many times it has saved me and prevented me from losing units!
Is there an advantage to having someone equip an axe and having the sword skill on them? Noticed that early on in the video. Thanks for the help by the way!
There's edge cases where it can matter. Later on Warriors can have good split coverages on finishers that way, but early on it's for defense. You resist any weapon you have a skill for.
So that’s why I always had a hard time recruiting, I keep recruiting units that were of high loyalty because I read the flavor text the other way around (Purrs like a kitten ≠ low loyalty) 😅
I mean there kind of is a meta right now. It's literally just use Canopus and pick up all the crit/phys up cards and then wreck shop with him, because Canopus is the single most broken unit in the entire game. I don't know what they were thinking. This is the best way I have found so far to mitigate the absolutely insane balance decision of spawning random cards around the battlefield with no rhyme or reason to them. And frankly it's pretty stupid to ignore cards considering how incredibly strong they are.
You definitely have a point, and a similar meta existed on PSP (except anyone who could wield a bow/crossbow could get in on it, too). I believe the reason Potato was purposefully avoiding the cards is to show how to deal with situations when you do not get favorable card spawns. It's not so much that you can't lawnmower the game with Canopus, it's having contingency plans for when that option is off the table for whatever reason.
I'd rather take the cards with a Berserker and kill 3+ enemies for 700+ damage. Well, sometimes I use Canopus to kill some mages, but I prefer Berserker to kill 3x faster. Berserker can kill 5 enemies in just one hit. Nothing is more broken than that.
Also, I've been playing the beginning, just got the 8 lvl cap and started noticing something strange, in all the training scenarios, my archers, even the max lvl ones started doing like 1 damage per attack against warriors when I could swear I was doing something like 30-70 dmg per shot at least before. Does this game scale enemies or downscale my party for training fights? I don't get it
I’m lost, wait how do I even get to that forest where I can recruit different beasts that you where speaking about? My people are already cap 17 and I’m missing so many classes.
In the warren report go to the talk section. There should be something there about pharompa open for hunting. Read that and then it will become available. I did it at lvl 19 so you still have time.
I love this game and I have been in love with the Ogre Series for decades, including the two previous Tactics: Ogre games. I think the game is still very hard but more than that, it's at the point where I would not object if they patched in some changes. As beautiful and synergistic as all these systems are -- it's **overwhelming** for some players, new ones I imagine, but I consider myself decent at the previous PSP version and pretty good at SRPGs.. and it's a lot for me to digest. If they added a "Basic" mode that just paired some things back, just removed cards and made a few things just things you don't have to worry or factor in as much. I can't say it would or wouldn't be more enjoyable, obviously "Experts" like CP would not like it -- but for Joe Casual? They might actually just enjoy the game a lot more and maybe work up to the Normal or Expert mode that is what we have now. I would also argue for an Easy/Story mode - or if anything, make a super easy story mode, a slightly harder easier mode, a harder but less hard than current Normal mode, Hard mode - as is and throw in a Maniac mode that is even more difficult than what we have now. Appeal to every single person who might want to play this game. Some are like Coffee Potato and brilliantly know every system and how to manipulate it - another might just want to see the incredible story. More players, more success and more success means more Ogre. I want remakes of Ogre Battle, 64, Knight of Lodis and Ep. VIII to come to light.
While I agree that the game could do a lot more to explain some of its systems, I'm against easy modes and difficulty modes in general. Once you go down the path of variable difficulty all of a sudden there's no sense of what a game's actual issues are because each different difficulty obsfucates them since they will be an issue on difficulty A but not difficulty B. As you've said, the issue is that the game can be overwhelming (and I'd argue, poorly conveyed) new players. That's really an information access and availability problem, not a difficulty problem. Lowering difficulty won't actually fix that problem, but some codices about stuff (what all the status effects actually do, how armor works etc) in the Warren Report might. That said, I'm not a fan of the stat buff cards myself, mostly because they're gaudy and as Anakin Skywalker said about sand, they just get everywhere.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe You bring up good points, I just think a game should be Accessible, especially if it is going to be successful. Easy or Basic modes might dull the vision and obfuscate underlying balance woes, but they do make the game more accessible. Right now, I'm having fun struggling in Chapter 2 -- and I know where this game goes (or at least the PSP ver), only harder. How many others would have walked away by now or would after a few more frustratingly difficult (for them) fights?
@@patron7906 I think worrying about accessibility is a trap I suppose. Especially in a game like Tactics Ogre, which carefully uses obscure mechanics like Loyalty and Chaos Frame on purpose to create an experience that reacts in sensible ways to a player's choices both in its narrative and gameplay. The obvious intended experience is one where they don't want the player to be aware of everything going on at all times, to create some ambiguity and mystery over how things function in order to create a sense of novelty. I mean, I look at Reborn and I already can see that they've tried to make this game as "accessible" as they possibly could. The Chariot Tarot allows you to rewind and mistake you can make. The buff cards can give you a pretty massive combat advantage. The charms keep any soldiers you have neglected for a bit viable to play with without having to grind. The camera angles and trajectory lines erase any confusion that might stem from the isometric point of view. And the ability to speed up the battle speed can erase people who think a turn-based tactics game is too slow. All of those features are attempts to try and make the game more appealing to a larger audience - "accessibility" is really in most cases a code word for "popularity" in my opinion, as most of the time people aren't talking about color-blind options or something like that - and I'm really not sure they could or should do more. At the same time the PSP version's general easy nature was complained about as a flaw from the audience the game already cultivated, so they're also trying to appeal to the crowd that's played this game for almost 30 years now and give them something they can sink their teeth into as well. The reaction to that is usually "give the players more options" but I can speak from experience that flat difficulty options never work out very well. They either take just as much effort to do well as tuning a whole game's normal intended difficulty, which in a game like TO is an immense amount of effort due to all the dozens of systems in place and how they work in conjunction, or they're lazy and flat damage and health modifiers that have lots of oversights and do very little to actually improve anyone's experience because they aren't tailored like the intended challenge is. Besides, the main thing I think the devs at Squeenix could do to make TO more accessible at this point is to just update graphics. Most of the actual complaints I've seen on the Steam store page and others is how people don't think a game that looks like a Super Nintendo game (because it was one originally) can be worth $50. The old graphics seem to be the actual biggest hurdle people have getting into the game from the feedback I'm seeing.
Nah, that'd just water down the game and make it lose all mechanical and even narrative weight through its systems. Often accessibility/easy modes are traps and ways to allow the player to ruin or water down their own experience. Would rather everyone learn the game, and if it's not for them then it's not for them, not every game has to be for everyone. This notion of putting accessibility on a pedestal is not just tiring I'd argue it's damaging to the medium as a whole, particularly for niche games like this. I'm glad there's no easy mode.
Cuestión 9:56 you show terror night wielding a two handed sword but your unit has axes weapon type in the skill set, shouldn't it be two handed sword icon?
Last minute weapon swap I forgot about there, but there are reasons to use other weapon skills. You get increased defense from that weapon type, and can also use it as a magic damage skill, which allows for very quick Loyalty training, if you need that for some reason.
@@CoffeePotato i, well... going to say it but don't take it the wrong way, everybody play how they want, and i respect that, but i am kind of a "completionist" type gamer when it comes to this game, you see... there is a title you get for not letting any of your soldiers fall in battle, and i mean KO, not dead though that also has tittles imported from the PSP version as well, so if you carry on to the very last battle of the game, normal play thorough, you get the tittle. Is kinda hard for me to see how often your troops fall in battle, i am glad you can use chariot, as there was a title for not using it in the PSP version under the same condition, in reborn that tittles don't exist ...so char to prevent your men getting KO is the way i will play. thanks for answering!
@@Fugazity It's the other way around, actually. No Incaps is still a title with music unlocks in Reborn. They took out No Chariot, apparently thinking it was too difficult, which is...certainly an opinion 🤣. Anyhow, hope that helps!
@@CoffeePotato "Hero King Unscathed" is the title for no units ever KOd in the battlefield. According to the games faq page discussions they indeed remove the no use of chariot titles; which is good because this way you can higher the odds to recruit to your party by doing different actions before inviting, or even doing different action as simple as standing in another tile by the troop that takes the turn before the recruiter. It's almost a cheat to do it this way but necessary to invite units you really want to have like those stupid dragons with their isnta kill attacks.
@@Fugazity Personally I would've preferred the other way around. It's easy enough to do No Incaps, while No Chariot generally involves knowing how to mitigate risk more, which I like. It's definitely cheating to use it for Recruiting, stuff is already the strongest skill in the game if used right.
@@Mintcar923 Honestly that's why it feels so good on the Deck. While I bought it as a laptop replacement, hot dang does it feel good to be able to play the whole series with the same controls.
@@CoffeePotato I’m tempted to check that out because in addition to the SRPG genre I’m also a huge fan of 4x strategy & the like which pc/SD specializes in
I’m really late (only recently got Reborn), but hopefully you or anyone sees this and answers: Does dismissing units lower your chaos frame with them? Also does kills with poison lower it as well?
I thought I read somewhere that when you attempt to recruit and fail it is supposed to get harder on further recruit attempts on the same unit. Is that not the case? It seems like you throw out recruits pretty liberally.
the % chance does goes down albeit very slightly (if an enemy is at ~1% hp and you have a 30% to recruit them and fail, the next attempt might go down to 29%)
How do you level up your units after you lose some of them because I'm stuck in chapter 2 my unit cap is 11 and only have like 3or4 at level 11 and new recruits are at level 1 they get basically one shot killed even in training
Training or XP charms are usually the fastest. They still get XP even if knocked out in training, though. Just throw them in AI and make some coffee, just about any team should be able to handle the training fights. Generally levels that low are the only time levels will matter to that much of a degree, but how do you have this team set up that they're having so many issues?
Yup, but it's all situational. High strength can make for a solid hitter and physical bulk unit, clearly, but high Mind might be better with secondary effects and debuffs.
Man this game is complicated, but I’m having a blast with it! Glad I found your videos hyping it up after another channel I follow did a review on it. There any chance you could do an explanation of stats, how they function/how they feed into attack/defense/spell landing, and how to increase them? Having options is all well and good, but understanding stats will help make the most of those options. For example I have an enchantress who has a hard time landing sleep and paralysis wave, does only meh damage, but is really freaking good at staying alive and I can’t figure out why.
5:35 ... Highly disagree man. Berserker Voltare has taken out 3x enemies at a time w/ Berserker + Sanguine Assault > Physical Attack ... Canopous Dirk +1 is extremely weak, but to each their own. I'm looking for 1 shots, not 4 shots.
Ah You are a man of culture!! I think the same , thats why i kept denam as Warrior with a humongous 2 handers with breach on hit .. he and his 2 roid rage infused zerkers (voltaire and forcas) obliterate the battle field with pincers and roidrage 1 hit kos.. múltiple healers Ensure the wtfpwn machine keeps going .
Fair, and it depends. It's not the Dirk itself. It's normal damage sucks, but the silence chance can be used to disable healers, and the Finisher scales well. Usually, it's just decent. Against this guy, an Earth unit, it hits very well. Personally, I have him as a Buccaneer 2h guy on my main file now. It's...quite the thing.
Fair, but if you can just fly a 1000+ into the backfield, might as well take advantage of an easy fix to the problem. Canopus tends to hit harder with a dagger than a 2h on average, but those 2h finishers make for great pivots for a lightning team.
The question i have (maybe it has been answered) is: can we actually recruit characters that we missed/ that we couldnt recruit following one path with the rewind chariot system? I had the same interrogation back then on psp but never figured it out.
@@Gpjr55 Thank you for the answer. Do you mind telling me if the rogue human class is in reborn? Im confused, some people say it is others say it isnt.
@@misterymisterio8778 Rouge is only available to the enemy forces. Supposedly because the devs had trouble getting the AI for that unit to work for the player.
Haven't had a chance to watch everything yet and although I've played the original and PSP version (haven't finished but know some of what's to come.) I just hope I don't get bogged down with wanting everything to be perfect. Think it might be possible to do a small video on the starting stats for those players that might be somewhat knowledgeable as far as what they might want to try out to start with. I'm really enjoying learning some of the systems so I know what I might want to try out and look at trying out. March of the Black Queen and Persons of Lordly Caliber sorta teach you it's worth knowing some of that if you get what I mean
Wouldn’t say time limit more a story limit so if u go pass a certain part in the story the area unlocked in the warren report won’t be available anymore
To open a location, you only need to see the news in the report. As long as you enable the news you can enable the map at any time. Remembering that if it's a character's location and that character has a unique speech in a battle you've already done, naturally you won't be able to see it and you'll have to finish the game to go back in time.
a question, if you equip two weapon ( will make lord denam using sword and a book ), but only have sword weapon skill and cast magic will it get the effect ? cos weapon skill raise magic damage now.
If you use magic, it improves weapons passives at the same time. If you have 4 weapon passives and use magic, she will buff all 4 at the same time. It's the best way to level all passives at the same time.
Uhhh, how did you rename Denam Coffee Potato? I can tell this is from Reborn and not the PSP version, but the release build doesn't allow you to rename him. Is this your preview build? Because that's a unique feature of it, if it is. You should never get rid of that file off your hardware if it is, could be a collector's item some day. Also, I agree about the removal of the Chariot Tarot, at least partially. It's very much a noob trap because people don't understand how RNG seeds work (even though the game does explain it). Probably would have been better to lower the amount of times you could use Chariot per battle to get it into player's heads that it's not for creating perfect battles, but correcting a big enough mistake in your own decision making without restarting a whole battle.
Yes, this happens in many strategy games. In the real world if you are in a high place it is possible to throw things further, but the opposite, from bottom to top, needs much more effort. It's the same logic.
@@scubasteve5326 , Think on the bright side. From now on you will try this in any strategy game. In my opinion it's a special touch to put something realistic like that.
Oh wow, Pharompa opens up that early in chapter 2? That's a lot of cash. It's been amusing watching the percentage of people who have cleared certain parts of the story drop percentage by percentage as you move towards the end. I was a bit surprised at 44% of people picking slaughter, though that percentage is likely much higher for those who made it that far, as only 70% beat Nybeth. Another fun strategy is using the water to block movement and just focus on the ranged enemies while negating the melee enemies. One of many ways Valks are really strong. I expect knights are strong for many of the same reason. Caitua gets really murdery when you give her spirit strike. DPS is a wrong term for any type of tactical game. DPR is more useful, but only a bit. As long as you do enough damage that the enemy can't out heal, you'll win eventually. That time frame needs only be faster than what the enemy can do to you. If you are setup with enough healers, most fights are no threat at all as they can't break your healing. Sometimes, this isn't done by damage or healing at all, but simply positional manipulation of the enemies so they can't attack at all and their damage is zero.
Beast tamer will do. got me undead octopus as a tank. Just not sure yet what is the down side of using undead units yet. Seems crazy good at early game.
It's not 100%. And before anything else, see if the enemy isn't using something that has resistance. Another detail is that some bosses are immune even without having any resistance appearing. It's easier to do this with ninjas or crit archers.
@@eliasfranca7173 appreciate the response. I just wanted to make sure I was getting unlucky instead of doing something wrong. Canopus must have attacked 15 different times on all squishy non-boss casters and I haven't seen one silence. But Its good to know I'm not doing it wrong haha. Thank you
have someone with warrior so they can buff melee weapon hit debuff 100%. without it you play with chances. Same with ranged they need archer to have 100% chance.
Really like the content on this channel but some cliff notes versions of this would be really helpful for those of us who'd like some tips but don't have 30 to 60 mins to go through a giant block of info at a time.
It’s been great absorbing your content but you’ve fallen into a trap so many TH-camrs who make “absolutely rookie guides!!!” do, and start explaining stuff that isn’t for a rookie. Within first minute you are talking about crafting (which doesn’t unlock for quite a few hours - I’m 8 hours in and haven’t got it yet). Think people new to this game would like a REALLY (really) rookie guide to the basics, explanation of how the main game loop works, how to set up for battles, what some of the main stats to look for etc.
Yea coffee potato you kinda need to start from scratch bro. Dummy down things and maybe talk about best party set ups throughout each chapter. Give new players something to strive for.
Fair enough. To be fair, this is largely because I'm hoping to get folks to ask questions, rather than follow one build and wonder why they got stuck. That's usually what gets folks going for a game as complicated as this, but I do have a third attempt at a simpler guide going up shortly. It's a work in progress. 🤣
even i have a decent progress so far.. i find that clearing mobs before the target boss is challenging to do.. if i feel like i start loosing units i just go after boss.. are there any missables for not clearing mobs first or its ok to just rush the boss?
Only when other mobs pick up bags on the battle field but you won't miss much that you can't get later. Going straight for the boss is viable and it's almost what the game wants you to do at first.
Going directly to the boss is much more complicated ahead of the game when most characters use healing or have rampart aura to block your advance, even more so that several bosses already start buffed with cards and are capable of 1 hit kill
You will lose the pleasure of having managed to kill all the enemies on the map in a super difficult fight. If you're finding it difficult, imagine finishing these fights without any allies falling or dying. Now that's fun.
what I learned:
-the reason sometimes units randomly had 0% recruit chance was because some abnormal status effects(like charm, sleep, etc) make recruiting impossible
-frightened and breached stack(very well)
-descriptions that say "increase melee damage" are actually talking about physical damage, possible mistranslation (beastslayer for ex)
I think I'm seeing a repeat of what was happening during the PSP release of the game in which people would get stuck on certain places without knowing exactly what they had at their disposal to overcome their problem.
Now it's not a "You are missing an Anatomy/Augment Element" problem, it is a "Maybe having a gameplan or two with your team could solve the issue". Reborn gives the player so many avenues to explore and find combinations that can make fights really easy to handle. Specially when the Union level is telling you that at that level you should be able to handle whatever they throw at you currently, even teams with higher level like this fight.
People were complaining about the Leonar fight on gamefaqs. I had an upgraded zweihander i mighty impact and it inflicted breach on him then vyce raped him with rending gale and a double attack lmfao.
@@sweetlil1096 I got smashed on my first go of the Law Leaonar fight, next fight I used...a magic leaf+1 and the fight was easy. I was just so used to going smork smork like LUCT but I appreciate a lot of the smaller nuances this edition brings and makes you actually well...play tactically in a tactics game
Hard to believe it's possible to have any difficulty against Leonar. It's so easy it's not even funny. What was slightly annoying was winning without Vyce dying.
Really hard is Hektor who already starts with 2 damage cards and 2 MP recovery cards. Hektor was a challenge to win by killing all enemies and not letting any ally fall or die.
@@sweetlil1096 when I fought him, he literally got a Phalanx proc 7 turns in a row. That was the most frustrating thing in the world.
It was love at first sight when i set eyes on that zweihander terror knight build.
I really wish you make a "One Class, X builds" series where X depends on how far you're willing to go.
It would give us beginners more insight into different ways to build a class.
A bit late on this, but that's what Know Your Class was last time around. I'm making those, winter is chaos right now.
heck yeah first! i really really enjoy your content and channel your unbelievable passion for the game had me scooping this up quickly.
i was introduced to SRPGs through Final Fantasy Tactics & Disgaea 2 well over a decade ago now but never got to play Tactics Ogre, your coverage made it clear i had to play this and i really appreciate you for making beginner tip videos because despite being a veteran in the genre Tactics Ogre has a lot going on and has been a dash overwhelming to start THANK YOU
Thank You, I love to hear this kinda stuff! It's definitely odd to get used to shifting gears into a new set of rules, but I'm really glad to see most are figuring it out this time.
Love these videos bro! You've kind of alluded to it with other tips and guides, but action economy (or even RT economy, if you wanna really get in the weeds) is hugely important concept in this game, especially against bosses. Things like Pincer Attack and any crowd control spell are my go-to examples; using 1 action to effectively get 2 attacks is great economy, and using 1 action to take away or restrict 2+ actions (sleep, stun, silence, etc) is a great trade-off. I'm really appreciating how much this game demands clever planning and good strategy instead of just letting me rely on power-built combat monsters to cleave through my enemies. It's super rewarding.
It is, I love how good it feels to break harder fights with some complete nonsense.
@@CoffeePotato The support spells in this game, especially CC, might have low accuracy, but they still feel incredibly efficient somehow.
Speaking of CC, debuff durations seem weird to me. It doesn't seem like it's the victim's turns... What determines how long something lasts? I never pay quite enough attention to it to figure out >.
@@Poillip So that's also a function of Mind. It's kind of like they're landing RT ticks for duration instead of damage. This also happens for Debuffs. You definitely get great economy out of them, it's just harder to quantify.
@@CoffeePotato Huh... An RT duration scaling with Mind makes a lot of sense actually. It would even serve to balance fast units vs slow ones. Fast units could theoretically act more often inside the debuff duration, possibly suffering the penalties for an extra turn.
Ugh now I wanna find modding tools to dig into the math >.< I've barely started the game and I'm already this invested lol
As a follow-up to your RT point, it may seem unintuitive to new players, but it is usually beneficial to do the absolute bare-minimum with your character on their turn.
As an example. You've got a new Valk you're leveling up/using. On her turn, you "could" run your max distance, then shoot someone with a bow for 40-60 damage. Seems legit, right? Sure, if that's a KB that'd be fine, but if it's not, then maybe moving up a square or two then ending your turn is the better option. For one, it means your turn comes up faster. Secondly, now maybe you're in range of a healer that you're doing 140-160 damage, or that same target as before, but now you're at a closer range so maybe you'll shoot a magic missile for 80-120 damage. All the while gaining more turns because your character's turns are coming up faster because you aren't making inefficient actions.
But I like throwing rocks! That's great, and it can work (seriously, everything has a use/path to greatness in this game), but more often than not, saving RT will net you more damage in the long run than that 1 point of damage from the stone toss.
I really enjoy the level cap, eliminating most of the grinding is a good thing to me
And the fact that each unit starts leveled up, so you don't recruit a level 25 terror knight and he has to use level 1 gear because you've never used a terror knight before. Or forgetting all their training the moment they join you.
Definitely agreed 100%, the level cap is really good for game flow here.
Have to say this has definitely been my favorite version of the game
Have you played the One Vision mod for the PSP version? It is also excellent.
@@DollyBowman not really, does look amazing from what I have seen Coffee post about it
I agree I am having a blast. Just started Ch. 2. I was initially worried about the level cap with the union level system but it seems pretty well balanced so far.
The game is called "TACTICS Ogre", with an emphasis on TACTICS. It's not called Faceroll your keyboard Ogre.
Funnily enough, adapting a plan is like the perfect way of describing how Denam acts in the story too. Talk about ludonarrative synchronization.
The "we'll do it live" experience: The Game XD
I'm doing a no incaps run currently. The challenge is real. The AI will ruthlessly gang up on units if able, but does follow a predictable process, it will target the unit or units it can do the most damage to, or recieve the least damage in return as far as I can tell. I've seen the AI pass up a killshot for 100% accuracy attack, so I guess that's a factor as well.
Thank you fot making this guide! Looking forward to the next videos.
And congratulationd on the +5K subs!
Thank You kindly, and yeah, it came quick!
I got Denam as a beast tamer, went to the forest and recruited some dragons, gave denam the dragon boost skill. And oooooo those are some big strong boys. I’m surprised their ranged attack is like as strong as an archer and seems even better range/trajectory wise.
And don't get me started with Breath II powered up.
Massive damage
Beast Tamer is so good. Lobber + upgrade beasts and dragons + an actual I.W.I.N. button in the form of thrown bombs. I tossed an orb in a boss fight halfway through chapter 3, and basically trivialized the whole thing, 70% of the enemy team lost half their health, making the rest of my guys able to one shot a bunch of them. And several got poisoned too.
That boss battle was the easiest fight I had so far, thanks to one action from my beast tamer.
I love how in your beginner video you say "Oh, I assume you know you can craft weapons!"
Um. No! I had no idea! The game NEVER bothers to explain this!!!!
It has a popup as soon as you unlock any crafting book, and also is always there on the store screen, but I get what you mean. I am in no way appallingly late to respond to messages.
Bro keep it up, very helpful to have someone covering this for us scrubs!
That's why he's the GOAT, the GOAT!
Keep up the videos homie! Thanks for all the info.
I think three houses(although a pretty different game) had a better grasp on the turn-rewind mechanic specifically - limited, but still there. And I think that's sort of the sweet-spot for strategy games, being able to go back a little and retry a different strategy without having to restart, but knowing that you can't do it endlessly so you don't waste time trying to get perfect turns. I adore this game in all other aspects though so far, and it scratches that fft itch so well(or well, even more than fft did tbh but don't tell fft I said that.)
Undead units can level with XP charms! Got an early undead (level 6, iirc) and have been using her as a throw away tank/healer when exorcism isn't an issue.
Exactly, it's awesome!
Omg, just the “click the stick” to see hp bars and elements, etc. … please tell me this is not something I missed in the play guides … anyway, you sir, are the ultimate TO information source.
Thank you for this!
my main issue right now trying to recruit monsters/new units is my goddamn sister keeps murdering them before I can do so ):
Yeah....it's a bit harder to try and recruit them after they've become lunch.
I'm having fun in the Law route, without going back in time or letting any ally fall or die.
Hektor was the game's first real challenge. Him starting with 4 cards, two damage cards, and not dying in the middle of several attacks was pretty fun.
Killing all enemies in all fights is pretty interesting.
heyo can u explain Chaos Frame for new people ? iv been trying to understand it to recruit u know who but im having a hard time getting the gist of it ... thanks ;D
Chaos frame is the opinion of certain clan to Denam.
The choice hes making across the game might raise or reduce CF of certain clan. Or make unit of certain clan incapped/death in battle. Technically they sacrifice themself for denam which will raise it. Make certain clan unit ress as undead will reduce the CF for reason. and some other.
We dont know yet how its affect the game in reborn but in psp it was like this:
Its affect starting of loyalty clan you recruit in shop.
Its preq of certain character in Chaos route.
High CF of certain clan will make you lose loyalty if you attack that clan unit in battle.
Certain number of CF will affect Lord ending.
Question why did you have the axe skill on the terror knight when using the 2h sword?
Oversight, and didn't matter for his role in this case.
This feel like same game just different way to play it. I love it
My first time through and I'm not very far in but I'm personally loving Denam as a warrior. Simple two handed problem solver backed up by the rest. Octopi are a helluva time but past that I'm having a blast. Thanks for the vid!
Great guide, this is exactly what I was looking for :)
Glad to help!
Great video. A bit chaotic perhaps, but that's more due to the nature of the game itself than anything to do with you.
@@skyhijinx Also me, I talk fast 😂
does this version have hidden stats?,
Sometimes there is a skill up notification, but I don't know what skill level is up
Rankable skills have been a thing since PSP. It's your weapon rank, which affects weapon and spell damage, as well as Finisher access. This goes up faster the farther you are from your level cap, and additionally raises loyalty...which isn't that useful, but it is funny to see Arycelle bottom out her Loyalty in Neutral...only to be given a dagger with a spell on it...4 weapon skills at once....and seeing her go from bottom to max loyalty in a single move.
Fun vids, thanks for helping me understand this game. Got it on Steam and was pretty nervous haha. Love the detail tho.
Glad to help!
🧙🏼♂️Finally with these tips I will be able to save Cressida (Nybeth is a bit##)
Commenting to help with engagement. Good stuff Caffinator :D
was curious do you have a vid on parry mechanics? like:
1. does it work on spells? missile only or also indirect/summons?
2. does it work differently in melee vs. ranged? i noticed it happens more vs. melee attacks.
3. how much percent to parry at base then how much does each parry level increase?
4. how is this different from block?
5. is it boosted by any stat like agility or avoidance? i find these 2 stats useless.
I can do a more dedicated one.
@@CoffeePotato cool. Looking forward to it then.
Please add timestamp or organize the video into sections :) It would really help coming back to the video and finding the tips you explained. Thanks
@3:47 am I missing something here?? Terror knight with Zwei +1... has axe weaponskill equiped ??
@4:53 here it happens again... Soldier with greataxe... has sword skill equiped...
Is this just for leveling purposes or something? Because
1) don't or do you get exp for a weaponskill you don't have equiped the weapon for?
2) why not use the right combination (axe+axe-skill, sword + sword skill) to also get their Finishing moves?
@5:58.. another thing I ponder... why give canopis the dagger +1... wouldn't a ninja with 2 of those be better for the 100% silence "chance" with the added effect of them having the bridle passive to completely neuter an enemy per turn? That way you can give our flyboi some knuckles so he can literally ensure the pincer attack procs even if your enemy has a rampart frontline ??
(got sick of editting this comment on the fly; so don't flame me for commenting on my own thread)
That first battle can EASILY be won if you charge in headlong too... you have a height advantage which means that if you equip some jumpers (or flyers) with bows; they can permanently lock ALL of the enemies healers by simply buffeting that line with longrange shots from your archer line.... quip a ninja with a bow/crossbow (bow works better) and giving him the silence auto-ability and you can effectively lock ALL of their magic casters out of the combat... at which point this battle becomes 10 Vs THREE (note there's a runefencer in that frontline too)
Early chapter 2 you get a LOT of battles where you either have height advantage or there's a lot of chokepoints... archers reign supreme here... more often then not they can shoot at the squishy targets without those targets having the ability to hit them back... this works in most of the forest maps 2; literally MOST of the battles in there will see you have the height advantage...
Simple mixup, I wasn't going to use their finishers, and Proficiency by itself is faster, but weaker than before.
Dagger ninja would be fine, most of that stuff is fairly situational. Like Canopus would carry a finisher farther, Ninja might be better for hit and runs, hell, personally I love light bow and dagger archers as my preferred shank unit. It's all viable, better is what you make it.
@@CoffeePotato I often found that bow + Dagger archers came up a few tiles short out of extended range for trying to snipe at the backline and the frontline (ofc) has loads of pierce prot so you hardly do any damage... Gave them all greatbows/longbows and haven't looked back.
Likewise; (cross)bow and dagger ninja's are fun but they get neutered in damage so much I discovered I was only using them for ranged status effect infliction and not much else...it keeps the ninja safer, true, but in effect you really only have use for proc+ cards and MP+ cards (unless you go for the backline again; then they all become viable)... whereas if I give them 2x 1-Hmelee then I can ALWAYS use the proc, MP, Phys cards, leaving the Magic for my casters...it's actually LESS situational imho (more allround; so that's a plus). Sure it trades their safety for dps output... but 2x crit + Status inflict + weapon effect ... I've seen my ninja's take a BIG chunk out of stuff like dragons
@@AshAsmodeus I've liked a sort of middle ground archer every now and then, later ended up using the Vartan for this role, but the Dagger/Bow is pretty handy as a pull away unit. Whatever RT stuff is going on there exactly, they always seem to outspeed things chasing them. Makes for a great running debuff spammer.
@@CoffeePotato all cool; just comparing notes on flavours ofc. It's fun to see people have a different perspective when playing games like this... it honestly makes the game more fun as a whole to know it actually CAN be played in different styles using different methods :)
FFT all time fav 💜 this is running neck and neck 😃
"Its not 'what is the meta" - and good lord Im getting drowned by videos for the game that are people just saying 'play this way cause its clearly the best.'
Power to you for promoting fun variables as the alternative discussion.
Like seriously one was like 'Denam should be Knight into Ninja for best results' and my immediate reaction was 'okay what if you want a caster Denam?'
Peasants ! Deman is a Warrior by Nature . He tanks and deliver the pain like no other MELEE as a Warrior. Mighty impact gives 100% chance to on hit effects and deals sick damage .
Warrior denam , let cistina be the valk op class. 😎
Hi! Why does the terror knight have the axe skill equipped when using a two handed sword? Am i missing something?
Random accident, though interestingly weapon skills do give you extra defense against that weapon type.
Been doing alright, but healing feels really ineffective/lacking. Damage well outpaces it. Is there a way to boost healing or is this kind of intended? Side note, items are ridiculous and so useful in this game.
Once your healers get mother's blessing it doubles healing when it triggers. Make sure your healer picks up a skill buff card to get it to trigger more often. I find two skill cards gets it to trigger almost every time
Use item that give Healcraft
Im on chapter 3 chaos route and my god the (im assuming last fight of the chapter) is brutal. Two leaders that need to be killed and one of them is an absolute beast in both damage and tankiness.
Edit: I kicked they ass and it was so satisfying
Always is! That's what us long timers stick around for.
Love your vids. Does the AI seem to use debuffs for you? I rarely experience it unless it is attached to a damage ability. I actually made a mage with nothing but debuff spells and let the AI control him. He then proceeded to never cast spells.
Subscribed to you recently - FINISH YOUR STEAMWORLD HEIST ELITE RUN, DAMMIT! I know it's hard, but you left me hanging. :(
Im wondering why you have your warrior equppied with an axe but you have the two handed sword skill on it. Same with the terror knight, it has a 2 handed sword with the axe skill
Final Fantasy Tactics was awesome, loved Vandal Hearts and played all the old Fire Emblems on emulators. JUst bought this today, can't wait to dive in
Very helpful, lots of good ideas for this first time player. (Just wish you would lower the volume on that music. For gameplay, it's great. For listening to ideas explained, it's really distracting.)
I'm working on changing that a little every time until no one complains.
Can I say , leveling up as any random class does not matter , because end game , stats can be farmed by using stats charms ?
if no, what are the good classes to use to level up ?
That's pretty accurate, but don't go telling any of the spicy comments that. Generally Knight sticks out the most to me, just due to the HP boost. It's a harder one to raise.
I remember playing this game on the PS1 and it was insanely hard.
I started playing it again on the Switch a week ago and it is as brutal as I remember it being.
Funny part is that this one is actually difficult in a general sense. I have a Gryphon Only run of the original coming out soon, and I kid you not, it takes only like 20 minutes to create a One Shot abomination out of a humble overpriced pigeon.
@@CoffeePotato High school me is trying to understand how you even did that.
With that said, your videos have been invaluable to me when it comes to understanding this gargantuanly deep game. I used to love Final Fantasy Tactics with all my heart, but after deep-diving this game and venturing through your videos, I think I can only go back to FFT if I just want to have the fast food version of SRPGs compared to this steakhouse and seafood equivalent of a game.
Why do you have Axes (level 13) on your Terror Knight but he's using a 2H Sword?
I just asked the same question lol. I hope he or someone replies cause that is severely confusing now. I don’t think the axe skill does anything for that.
Hi, I’m totally new to this genre of games and I’m trying not to give up too early as your rookie/ beginner videos themselves are fairly complicated to follow especially the crowded UI. So is there a specific order in which I should be consuming your guides, I couldn’t find a playlist for reborn, so I’m left wondering if I’m actually using your videos the right way, any pointers would be appreciated!
I would say there's a better way. I wanted to make a new newbie's guide, what kind of issues are you having? (To be completely honest, after this long covering this game and doing runs in it's different forms, it's often hard to figure out what new folks are struggling with)
@@CoffeePotato So what is that better way or is that aimed towards me? I am not having one specific issue but in general the UI (I just did not for quite some time figure out how to get to the warren report which it kept harping about in the tutorial !!!!), basic stuff about what to do and how to do. If you see this video of yours you slip into complex strategy stuff straight away which is a far cry for me. So typically if you can rewind 10 steps and get into the same amount of detail you do in your videos it would truly be a newbie guide! In general the tips videos on yt are too brief and generally unclear on where to apply what, but the amount of detail you give it would really help some one like me out. Once we get comfy with the UI and fundamental mechanics then your other videos can be followed with ease. I know its easy to ask but please do consider!
Been playing the PSP version on and off until the console started dying and I never quite grasped the game (though I did finish it once, Chaos I believe). Now I'm back for Reborn on PC and loving the ease of customizing especially compared to LUCT. There's a lot in this video I did not quite realize, including just the concepts of formation, using probability and such.
I'll probably find the answer somewhere in the channel (I'll look!) but something technical I never quite understood about the game is how damage works. Even now that I have a much easier time after waking up to the usefulness of Breach and Frighten, I'm sometimes baffled how some units can deal 1 to 10 damage while otthers go as high as 200+. Or how an archer goes from doing 1 to 100 damage after breaching. Damage in this game and the PSP version feels like needle teetering around a threshold, with one side being 0 and the being 100, no inbetween. Hearing "damage threshold" used as a term so casually makes me think this common knowledge to long term players? Is the needle analogy actually a thing? I'm constantly wondering what on earth I'm doing wrong lol
Here's the thing with damage. Staring at the damage formula will not internalize much. That's why I tend to use vague terms like Threshold..it's not technically a threshold, but can be thought of as one. Your big spikes come from those moments when you can punch past defenses, which means something different in every scenario. So if we imagine things like Elemental Advantage, Atk Score, Breach, Fear, etc as things to stack to push past an invisible threshold, it's easier to internalize than "we take the value from this, add it so this, multiply it by this, but only sometimes, and other times this, them we minus that from the number of toes on a nearby centipede and multiply by the weather, in order to then apply the 94x coefficient of the greater of the chicken or the egg, etc etc".
Stack advantage, get number. 👍
I'm going to make a simpler damage guide soon, I did one last week, but didn't like it.
@@CoffeePotato Yeah, I did some searching around and it basically usually went like "okay, so the formula is this, so that's why certain weapons have an easier time breaking through." Which is *fine* but what I (and I imagine a lot of other people coming in) are looking for is a simple, look at this stat on the sheet, that's why. It's always super vague, but because "apply Breached, get damage" actually works really well, it's now less of a problem.
On PSP, status like Breached was less accessible if I remember it right and I also tended to ignore pure status spells because of their accuracy (hence why your thought process in this video was pretty helpful) which meant I faced 1 damage in the forecast a LOT without knowing why or understanding how to deal more. Because at the end of the day, I didn't think one status proc would magically turn a 1 into a 100 (which, at the moment, actually turns into 200 and more and is amazing). Usually, I expect to have missed a key stat like "overall armor rating" that shows me how high I need to push - something simple like it's usually the case in RPGs. And then you see most people unpack the damage formula because, yeah, it's actually not that simple - it's a huge calculation in the back and no amount of looking at the stat sheet will help you.
It's like with funky tech solutions (something simple like turning it on and off) - I know it works, so it's technically fine, but as to *why* it works, no clue.
I was gonna make a video about it, and you highlighted it. I am a new player to Tactics Ogre, but I love FFT and play TRPGs all the time.
Frightened is GODLY. I cannot even count how many times it has saved me and prevented me from losing units!
Is there an advantage to having someone equip an axe and having the sword skill on them? Noticed that early on in the video. Thanks for the help by the way!
There's edge cases where it can matter. Later on Warriors can have good split coverages on finishers that way, but early on it's for defense. You resist any weapon you have a skill for.
Oh that's an awesome attention to detail there! Thanks again!
So that’s why I always had a hard time recruiting, I keep recruiting units that were of high loyalty because I read the flavor text the other way around (Purrs like a kitten ≠ low loyalty) 😅
For what it's worth, it was an embarrassingly long time before I realized that same thing.
I mean there kind of is a meta right now. It's literally just use Canopus and pick up all the crit/phys up cards and then wreck shop with him, because Canopus is the single most broken unit in the entire game. I don't know what they were thinking. This is the best way I have found so far to mitigate the absolutely insane balance decision of spawning random cards around the battlefield with no rhyme or reason to them. And frankly it's pretty stupid to ignore cards considering how incredibly strong they are.
You definitely have a point, and a similar meta existed on PSP (except anyone who could wield a bow/crossbow could get in on it, too). I believe the reason Potato was purposefully avoiding the cards is to show how to deal with situations when you do not get favorable card spawns.
It's not so much that you can't lawnmower the game with Canopus, it's having contingency plans for when that option is off the table for whatever reason.
I'd rather take the cards with a Berserker and kill 3+ enemies for 700+ damage.
Well, sometimes I use Canopus to kill some mages, but I prefer Berserker to kill 3x faster.
Berserker can kill 5 enemies in just one hit. Nothing is more broken than that.
Also, I've been playing the beginning, just got the 8 lvl cap and started noticing something strange, in all the training scenarios, my archers, even the max lvl ones started doing like 1 damage per attack against warriors when I could swear I was doing something like 30-70 dmg per shot at least before. Does this game scale enemies or downscale my party for training fights? I don't get it
Elemental matchups. Check elements and Dex. The class is just a toolbox, there's still a person using that toolbox.
Thank you for this begginers guide!
I’m lost, wait how do I even get to that forest where I can recruit different beasts that you where speaking about? My people are already cap 17 and I’m missing so many classes.
In the warren report go to the talk section. There should be something there about pharompa open for hunting. Read that and then it will become available. I did it at lvl 19 so you still have time.
I love this game and I have been in love with the Ogre Series for decades, including the two previous Tactics: Ogre games. I think the game is still very hard but more than that, it's at the point where I would not object if they patched in some changes. As beautiful and synergistic as all these systems are -- it's **overwhelming** for some players, new ones I imagine, but I consider myself decent at the previous PSP version and pretty good at SRPGs.. and it's a lot for me to digest.
If they added a "Basic" mode that just paired some things back, just removed cards and made a few things just things you don't have to worry or factor in as much. I can't say it would or wouldn't be more enjoyable, obviously "Experts" like CP would not like it -- but for Joe Casual? They might actually just enjoy the game a lot more and maybe work up to the Normal or Expert mode that is what we have now.
I would also argue for an Easy/Story mode - or if anything, make a super easy story mode, a slightly harder easier mode, a harder but less hard than current Normal mode, Hard mode - as is and throw in a Maniac mode that is even more difficult than what we have now. Appeal to every single person who might want to play this game. Some are like Coffee Potato and brilliantly know every system and how to manipulate it - another might just want to see the incredible story. More players, more success and more success means more Ogre. I want remakes of Ogre Battle, 64, Knight of Lodis and Ep. VIII to come to light.
While I agree that the game could do a lot more to explain some of its systems, I'm against easy modes and difficulty modes in general. Once you go down the path of variable difficulty all of a sudden there's no sense of what a game's actual issues are because each different difficulty obsfucates them since they will be an issue on difficulty A but not difficulty B.
As you've said, the issue is that the game can be overwhelming (and I'd argue, poorly conveyed) new players. That's really an information access and availability problem, not a difficulty problem. Lowering difficulty won't actually fix that problem, but some codices about stuff (what all the status effects actually do, how armor works etc) in the Warren Report might.
That said, I'm not a fan of the stat buff cards myself, mostly because they're gaudy and as Anakin Skywalker said about sand, they just get everywhere.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe You bring up good points, I just think a game should be Accessible, especially if it is going to be successful. Easy or Basic modes might dull the vision and obfuscate underlying balance woes, but they do make the game more accessible.
Right now, I'm having fun struggling in Chapter 2 -- and I know where this game goes (or at least the PSP ver), only harder. How many others would have walked away by now or would after a few more frustratingly difficult (for them) fights?
@@patron7906 I think worrying about accessibility is a trap I suppose. Especially in a game like Tactics Ogre, which carefully uses obscure mechanics like Loyalty and Chaos Frame on purpose to create an experience that reacts in sensible ways to a player's choices both in its narrative and gameplay. The obvious intended experience is one where they don't want the player to be aware of everything going on at all times, to create some ambiguity and mystery over how things function in order to create a sense of novelty.
I mean, I look at Reborn and I already can see that they've tried to make this game as "accessible" as they possibly could. The Chariot Tarot allows you to rewind and mistake you can make. The buff cards can give you a pretty massive combat advantage. The charms keep any soldiers you have neglected for a bit viable to play with without having to grind. The camera angles and trajectory lines erase any confusion that might stem from the isometric point of view. And the ability to speed up the battle speed can erase people who think a turn-based tactics game is too slow.
All of those features are attempts to try and make the game more appealing to a larger audience - "accessibility" is really in most cases a code word for "popularity" in my opinion, as most of the time people aren't talking about color-blind options or something like that - and I'm really not sure they could or should do more. At the same time the PSP version's general easy nature was complained about as a flaw from the audience the game already cultivated, so they're also trying to appeal to the crowd that's played this game for almost 30 years now and give them something they can sink their teeth into as well.
The reaction to that is usually "give the players more options" but I can speak from experience that flat difficulty options never work out very well. They either take just as much effort to do well as tuning a whole game's normal intended difficulty, which in a game like TO is an immense amount of effort due to all the dozens of systems in place and how they work in conjunction, or they're lazy and flat damage and health modifiers that have lots of oversights and do very little to actually improve anyone's experience because they aren't tailored like the intended challenge is.
Besides, the main thing I think the devs at Squeenix could do to make TO more accessible at this point is to just update graphics. Most of the actual complaints I've seen on the Steam store page and others is how people don't think a game that looks like a Super Nintendo game (because it was one originally) can be worth $50. The old graphics seem to be the actual biggest hurdle people have getting into the game from the feedback I'm seeing.
Nah, that'd just water down the game and make it lose all mechanical and even narrative weight through its systems.
Often accessibility/easy modes are traps and ways to allow the player to ruin or water down their own experience. Would rather everyone learn the game, and if it's not for them then it's not for them, not every game has to be for everyone. This notion of putting accessibility on a pedestal is not just tiring I'd argue it's damaging to the medium as a whole, particularly for niche games like this. I'm glad there's no easy mode.
Cuestión 9:56 you show terror night wielding a two handed sword but your unit has axes weapon type in the skill set, shouldn't it be two handed sword icon?
Last minute weapon swap I forgot about there, but there are reasons to use other weapon skills. You get increased defense from that weapon type, and can also use it as a magic damage skill, which allows for very quick Loyalty training, if you need that for some reason.
@@CoffeePotato i, well... going to say it but don't take it the wrong way, everybody play how they want, and i respect that, but i am kind of a "completionist" type gamer when it comes to this game, you see... there is a title you get for not letting any of your soldiers fall in battle, and i mean KO, not dead though that also has tittles imported from the PSP version as well, so if you carry on to the very last battle of the game, normal play thorough, you get the tittle. Is kinda hard for me to see how often your troops fall in battle, i am glad you can use chariot, as there was a title for not using it in the PSP version under the same condition, in reborn that tittles don't exist ...so char to prevent your men getting KO is the way i will play. thanks for answering!
@@Fugazity It's the other way around, actually. No Incaps is still a title with music unlocks in Reborn. They took out No Chariot, apparently thinking it was too difficult, which is...certainly an opinion 🤣. Anyhow, hope that helps!
@@CoffeePotato "Hero King Unscathed" is the title for no units ever KOd in the battlefield. According to the games faq page discussions they indeed remove the no use of chariot titles; which is good because this way you can higher the odds to recruit to your party by doing different actions before inviting, or even doing different action as simple as standing in another tile by the troop that takes the turn before the recruiter. It's almost a cheat to do it this way but necessary to invite units you really want to have like those stupid dragons with their isnta kill attacks.
@@Fugazity Personally I would've preferred the other way around. It's easy enough to do No Incaps, while No Chariot generally involves knowing how to mitigate risk more, which I like. It's definitely cheating to use it for Recruiting, stuff is already the strongest skill in the game if used right.
if I recruit a character on the battlefield, do I acquire access to that class for all my units ?
You still need to get the mark for that.
Your desert island srpg.. I still have it digitally on PSP but it’s quite nice to finally own the physical on Switch
Except for the DPAD placement. One of my only gripes with Reborn is playing on Switch and not being able to swap the left controls.
@@CoffeePotato I noticed this.. It’s definitely not the same
@@Mintcar923 Honestly that's why it feels so good on the Deck. While I bought it as a laptop replacement, hot dang does it feel good to be able to play the whole series with the same controls.
@@CoffeePotato I’m tempted to check that out because in addition to the SRPG genre I’m also a huge fan of 4x strategy & the like which pc/SD specializes in
Questions: what's that icon on Denam?
LITERALLY coming out with my own beginner video today! xD watching now while i eat lunch and then ill get start on recording my script haha
I’m really late (only recently got Reborn), but hopefully you or anyone sees this and answers:
Does dismissing units lower your chaos frame with them? Also does kills with poison lower it as well?
It does not lower CF to fire them, but poisons are still kills. You're only losing CF if you're having units kill or KO their same faction.
@@CoffeePotato Nice, time to hire people I don't want to hate me and fire them instantly after stripping them naked!
One question... the green card boost the stats permanently ?!?!
Yup. Wouldn't get too excited, they're good to get, but stats are typically the slowest way to break things. Always nice to grab, though.
I thought I read somewhere that when you attempt to recruit and fail it is supposed to get harder on further recruit attempts on the same unit. Is that not the case? It seems like you throw out recruits pretty liberally.
the % chance does goes down albeit very slightly (if an enemy is at ~1% hp and you have a 30% to recruit them and fail, the next attempt might go down to 29%)
What happens if you try to push a unit into a river tile
Depends on the unit. If a unit has Wade either on the class or armor, they go in. If not, they hang on for dear life, and refuse to move.
@@CoffeePotato Weird that the more punishing outcome is reserved for the one with some specialization
@@KvltKommando If it makes you feel better, you can push people off cliffs and they die, unless they can fly, then they'll fly back up safely.
Good job my dude, and great job in being consistent in your output and helping out the community. Do you even sleep bro?
why do you have 2h sword passive when you use axes? i dont get it
So you leave this comment lol
How do you level up your units after you lose some of them because I'm stuck in chapter 2 my unit cap is 11 and only have like 3or4 at level 11 and new recruits are at level 1 they get basically one shot killed even in training
Training or XP charms are usually the fastest. They still get XP even if knocked out in training, though. Just throw them in AI and make some coffee, just about any team should be able to handle the training fights. Generally levels that low are the only time levels will matter to that much of a degree, but how do you have this team set up that they're having so many issues?
Sara's name is no. 1 on PSX or PS1
Elemental types might tie for bonus on weapon type. Ninja sword seems dark, hammer is fire (finishers)
Does the main character's starting stats actually matter? As in all those card choices?
Yup, but it's all situational. High strength can make for a solid hitter and physical bulk unit, clearly, but high Mind might be better with secondary effects and debuffs.
Wait. You have to read the Warren report to unlock areas? Lol
@@MetaVita Yeah, you're reading the news to find out about it. Supposed to be immersive and such.
My problem with TO is the damn loyalty system. Characters are great....if you can even keep em on your team
Man this game is complicated, but I’m having a blast with it! Glad I found your videos hyping it up after another channel I follow did a review on it.
There any chance you could do an explanation of stats, how they function/how they feed into attack/defense/spell landing, and how to increase them? Having options is all well and good, but understanding stats will help make the most of those options. For example I have an enchantress who has a hard time landing sleep and paralysis wave, does only meh damage, but is really freaking good at staying alive and I can’t figure out why.
How did you get a clay golem this early?
That's the Cyclops from the Vyce 2C fight.
@@CoffeePotato oh, I thought I need a warlock to recruit it? Damn, seems I've missed getting him then :(
@@NitrousoxideMuffin No biggie, he's just a generic cyclops, they're everywhere. They're classed as a beast.
@@CoffeePotato Alright, I'll try and get the next one then, thanks a lot for the replies :)
Anyone know why it boos at the end of a battle screen when you have an undead unit in your party?
5:35 ... Highly disagree man. Berserker Voltare has taken out 3x enemies at a time w/ Berserker + Sanguine Assault > Physical Attack ... Canopous Dirk +1 is extremely weak, but to each their own. I'm looking for 1 shots, not 4 shots.
Ah You are a man of culture!!
I think the same , thats why i kept denam as Warrior with a humongous 2 handers with breach on hit .. he and his 2 roid rage infused zerkers (voltaire and forcas) obliterate the battle field with pincers and roidrage 1 hit kos.. múltiple healers Ensure the wtfpwn machine keeps going .
Fair, and it depends. It's not the Dirk itself. It's normal damage sucks, but the silence chance can be used to disable healers, and the Finisher scales well. Usually, it's just decent. Against this guy, an Earth unit, it hits very well. Personally, I have him as a Buccaneer 2h guy on my main file now. It's...quite the thing.
Fair, but if you can just fly a 1000+ into the backfield, might as well take advantage of an easy fix to the problem. Canopus tends to hit harder with a dagger than a 2h on average, but those 2h finishers make for great pivots for a lightning team.
aside from fixing some blatant misplays i've mostly been using Chariot to bring back potential recruits i accidentally killed...
I actually did this battle on full AI no issues.
The only battle i found somewhat a challenge is the first beastmaster battle with the 2 gryphons
In what console IS this videogame playing, greetings from México
Switch.
¡Hola paisano!
The game is available on Playstation, Xbox, Switch, and PC.
@@kevsmart This game is not available on Xbox.
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 Oh you're right, my mistake.
The question i have (maybe it has been answered) is: can we actually recruit characters that we missed/ that we couldnt recruit following one path with the rewind chariot system?
I had the same interrogation back then on psp but never figured it out.
Yes, you can recruit all characters if you come back.
That's how you get all the characters and all the titles.
Do you recruit a cyclops with the beast tamer?
yes !! Beasts so far are kraken cyclops gryphon cockatrice
@@Gpjr55 Thank you for the answer. Do you mind telling me if the rogue human class is in reborn? Im confused, some people say it is others say it isnt.
@@misterymisterio8778 Rouge is only available to the enemy forces. Supposedly because the devs had trouble getting the AI for that unit to work for the player.
@@Scuderia-hy4zu Do you know if rogue fairy can be recruited?
@@misterymisterio8778 Sorry, no idea. I’m too much of a rookie, haven’t gotten that far or heard.
Haha, yep this is the point I'm at now. Have attempted this fight twice and lost. Then started fooling around in the menus and unlocked a new area.
can you rename the hero? How?
Beat the game, he can be whatever you'd like from there on out.
Loving this iteration of the game! But man i miss the rogue class ; ;
Haven't had a chance to watch everything yet and although I've played the original and PSP version (haven't finished but know some of what's to come.) I just hope I don't get bogged down with wanting everything to be perfect. Think it might be possible to do a small video on the starting stats for those players that might be somewhat knowledgeable as far as what they might want to try out to start with. I'm really enjoying learning some of the systems so I know what I might want to try out and look at trying out.
March of the Black Queen and Persons of Lordly Caliber sorta teach you it's worth knowing some of that if you get what I mean
About the warren reports opening up new areas, is there a time limit?
Wouldn’t say time limit more a story limit so if u go pass a certain part in the story the area unlocked in the warren report won’t be available anymore
@@KingBoxLunch that's good to know, i'm still at the begining, the lastest warren report under "talk" is A Hero is Born
To open a location, you only need to see the news in the report. As long as you enable the news you can enable the map at any time.
Remembering that if it's a character's location and that character has a unique speech in a battle you've already done, naturally you won't be able to see it and you'll have to finish the game to go back in time.
How do you already have a cyclops?
a question, if you equip two weapon ( will make lord denam using sword and a book ), but only have sword weapon skill and cast magic will it get the effect ? cos weapon skill raise magic damage now.
If you use magic, it improves weapons passives at the same time.
If you have 4 weapon passives and use magic, she will buff all 4 at the same time.
It's the best way to level all passives at the same time.
@@eliasfranca7173 will equiping booth sword and book weapon skill get better magic damage than equiping only one ( sword only or book only ) ?
@@krissatriya8662 , Sorry, I haven't tested this yet. I believe that the weapon's magic damage bonus only counts the weapon with the highest level.
Uhhh, how did you rename Denam Coffee Potato? I can tell this is from Reborn and not the PSP version, but the release build doesn't allow you to rename him. Is this your preview build? Because that's a unique feature of it, if it is. You should never get rid of that file off your hardware if it is, could be a collector's item some day.
Also, I agree about the removal of the Chariot Tarot, at least partially. It's very much a noob trap because people don't understand how RNG seeds work (even though the game does explain it). Probably would have been better to lower the amount of times you could use Chariot per battle to get it into player's heads that it's not for creating perfect battles, but correcting a big enough mistake in your own decision making without restarting a whole battle.
You can change his name after you beat the game once and start a second playthrough
@@Swifman622 Oh OK. I obviously haven't beaten this version yet. Currently in Chapter 3. Thanks for the info!
I figure it out u have to get closed to them to recruited them.if i was sick our paralysis 😆. U better asked me later to jount.dont feel good lol
Feel better soon!
“I assume you’ve done this and this and this.” Well you assume wrong bud.
@@igiveyoudispear9975 Well enlighten me, and I'll be glad to help. 👍
Wait..... if you have height with your archer you can shoot past the shown range? I never knew that
Yes, this happens in many strategy games.
In the real world if you are in a high place it is possible to throw things further, but the opposite, from bottom to top, needs much more effort.
It's the same logic.
@@eliasfranca7173 in real life it makes sense, I just never thought to try it in the game lol.
@@scubasteve5326 ,
Think on the bright side. From now on you will try this in any strategy game.
In my opinion it's a special touch to put something realistic like that.
Oh wow, Pharompa opens up that early in chapter 2? That's a lot of cash. It's been amusing watching the percentage of people who have cleared certain parts of the story drop percentage by percentage as you move towards the end. I was a bit surprised at 44% of people picking slaughter, though that percentage is likely much higher for those who made it that far, as only 70% beat Nybeth.
Another fun strategy is using the water to block movement and just focus on the ranged enemies while negating the melee enemies. One of many ways Valks are really strong. I expect knights are strong for many of the same reason. Caitua gets really murdery when you give her spirit strike.
DPS is a wrong term for any type of tactical game. DPR is more useful, but only a bit. As long as you do enough damage that the enemy can't out heal, you'll win eventually. That time frame needs only be faster than what the enemy can do to you. If you are setup with enough healers, most fights are no threat at all as they can't break your healing. Sometimes, this isn't done by damage or healing at all, but simply positional manipulation of the enemies so they can't attack at all and their damage is zero.
So if i want to recruit an undead beast do i need a beast tamer or a necromancer?
Beast tamer will do. got me undead octopus as a tank. Just not sure yet what is the down side of using undead units yet. Seems crazy good at early game.
@@klhy91 I'm sure you figured it out. But undead can't level up, so you have to give them exp charms or make them not-undead later in the game.
Am I doing something wrong? The Dirk+1 I gave Canopus never silences anyone. I've used him with the dagger in 4 battles so far not one silence.
It's not 100%. And before anything else, see if the enemy isn't using something that has resistance. Another detail is that some bosses are immune even without having any resistance appearing.
It's easier to do this with ninjas or crit archers.
@@eliasfranca7173 appreciate the response. I just wanted to make sure I was getting unlucky instead of doing something wrong. Canopus must have attacked 15 different times on all squishy non-boss casters and I haven't seen one silence. But Its good to know I'm not doing it wrong haha. Thank you
have someone with warrior so they can buff melee weapon hit debuff 100%. without it you play with chances.
Same with ranged they need archer to have 100% chance.
Really like the content on this channel but some cliff notes versions of this would be really helpful for those of us who'd like some tips but don't have 30 to 60 mins to go through a giant block of info at a time.
Beggars can’t be choosers
@@omensoffate and stupid can't be smart, shame you chose the wrong side
It’s been great absorbing your content but you’ve fallen into a trap so many TH-camrs who make “absolutely rookie guides!!!” do, and start explaining stuff that isn’t for a rookie. Within first minute you are talking about crafting (which doesn’t unlock for quite a few hours - I’m 8 hours in and haven’t got it yet). Think people new to this game would like a REALLY (really) rookie guide to the basics, explanation of how the main game loop works, how to set up for battles, what some of the main stats to look for etc.
Yea coffee potato you kinda need to start from scratch bro. Dummy down things and maybe talk about best party set ups throughout each chapter. Give new players something to strive for.
Fair enough. To be fair, this is largely because I'm hoping to get folks to ask questions, rather than follow one build and wonder why they got stuck. That's usually what gets folks going for a game as complicated as this, but I do have a third attempt at a simpler guide going up shortly. It's a work in progress. 🤣
even i have a decent progress so far.. i find that clearing mobs before the target boss is challenging to do.. if i feel like i start loosing units i just go after boss..
are there any missables for not clearing mobs first or its ok to just rush the boss?
Only when other mobs pick up bags on the battle field but you won't miss much that you can't get later. Going straight for the boss is viable and it's almost what the game wants you to do at first.
Going directly to the boss is much more complicated ahead of the game when most characters use healing or have rampart aura to block your advance, even more so that several bosses already start buffed with cards and are capable of 1 hit kill
You will lose the pleasure of having managed to kill all the enemies on the map in a super difficult fight.
If you're finding it difficult, imagine finishing these fights without any allies falling or dying. Now that's fun.