Discussing Dairy with Dr. Neal Barnard (Got Milk?, DMI, Mayo Clinic Partnership & More)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2024
- I was honored to be joined by Dr. Neal Barnard of the @PhysiciansCommittee for Responsible Medicine for this video! He answered all of my questions about dairy industry marketing and so much more. We also got to discuss his new book The Power Foods Diet, available March 26!
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Intro 00:00
Introducing Dr. Barnard 00:41
What is DMI and the Dairy Checkoff? 01:45
PCRM exposing DMI 04:02
PCRM’s complaint against Aubrey Plaza’s Got Milk Ad 06:13
Why are there so many names for dairy organizations? 11:15
Milk and breast cancer 14:35
Milk, heart disease, and Alzheimer’s 16:03
Mayo Clinic DMI partnership 16:59
Lack of transparency 20:37
Milk powder in everything 24:05
How politics affect dairy agenda 25:08
Cheese in the produce section 27:19
What’s the future for dairy? 29:09
The Power Foods Diet 33:20
Who is the book for? 36:41
Confusion as a tactic 40:24
Sharing health 42:42
Is oil really that bad? 43:28
Book and PCRM info 46:43
Saying bye to Dr. Barnard 47:52 - บันเทิง
So excited to hang with you all tomorrow (Friday) live at 2pm EST! Head to this link and comment on the most recent post what vegan topics you’d like to discuss! www.youtube.com/@TotallyForkable/community
Hope you guys enjoyed this interview with Dr. Barnard. He was every bit as kind and knowledgeable as I imagined he would be!
. . . I thoroughly enjoyed Dr Barnard & your great interview...gotta say he just gets better & better each time I hear him... 🥰
So glad you enjoyed it! He has such a great and effective way of communicating @@gaBetibu
Little known fact about Dr Barnard: Son français est excellent! 😊
I should have dusted up on Duolingo so I could have parler-ed with him! 🇫🇷
@@TotallyForkable I'm Canadian and fluent in both, so I guess I have an unfair advantage. 😆 I saw several of his interviews on PBN and I can confirm his French is great, especially for an American (no immersion, unless he had a special opportunity I don't now about).
Wow, that is very impressive; secondary language education in the US tends to be sh!t 🙃
Yeah, I've been no oil since starting McDougall's way of eating 10 years ago. Once one gets beyond frying and eating fried food, no oil is very easy and very healthy!
I think I'd have a hard time making the transition but I do follow some people on IG who make it look really delicious!
Oil is plant based. Canola oil. Soybean oil. Corn oil.
@@keithbarbaro7590Yes, but very unhealthy. It's virtually empty and extremely concentrated calories...
Thoroughly enjoyed the interview! Thanks for asking such intelligent questions. I can listen to Dr. Barnard all day! I'm in Asia, and I can certainly see dairy being pushed down our throats more than ever. Truly absurd when most of us can't even tolerate dairy. Can't wait for the day when dairy is put in the dustbin of history!
So glad you enjoyed it!! And yes, the increasing dairy situation in Asia seems really upsetting; I wonder if there's not as much awareness there as to what's happening and why? There's certainly a lack of awareness even here in the states 🤦🏻♀️
So compassionate and the last question you asked about oil is so true! It changed my life, but doctors don't recommend that with type 2D. I learned about avoiding oil on The Exam Room listening to him talk about getting rid of T2D by going vegan. He's a gem!
I'm so glad you were able to make positive changes to your health through diet! The lack of nutritional education in medicine should be criminal; sadly he pointed out in his book that MDs are highly trained on drugs since the pharmaceutical companies pay for extensive training. Maddening, but PCRM is doing such important work!
So cool you got him on your show! Really happy for you. love your channel. keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for the support! 🫶🏻🙏🏻
@@TotallyForkable np. He must be very gracious with his time. Neal seems like a really easy guy to speak to but I think you did really well on your part as an interviewer too. hope you branch out with other interviewee's. you're both great advocates against animal cruelly!
Thank you so much!! Some exciting ones coming up in the future 😊
Loved the entire discussion! It's amazing you are able to get such awesome people to come talk.
So glad! I was honored he said yes! More to come 💖
. . . each time I hear from Dr Barnard, I learn so much more...I love & greatly respect his tireless efforts to promote good health of our Loved Ones, our Planet &, most especially, our Precious innocent animals...this vid is one more of my most loved & "learned from" & I just have to immediately share with my Loved Ones on FB, among others...thank you both for all your hard work for the good of so many....God Bless You So Much... (btw, tho I try to stop buying more books, just gotta get Dr Bernard's newest) 🥰
I am SO glad you enjoyed this, and thank you for sharing it!! This information has the power to help many people. And yes Dr. Barnard's new book is definitely worth it!
Bravo! I love Dr. Barnard - dude's an absolute legend, and he's not just a plant based lifestyle medicine doc who saves lives by reversing diabetes and heart disease. He's an actual vegan, speaking up about animal rights and animal cruelty. Anyone who follows the vegan activist space is probably aware of PCRM's work in exposing Neuralink's cruel monkey experiments, for example. Also, Dr. B is a literal rockstar (got his own band - Carbonworks), he's fluent in French and he knows precisely which animal abusing industry segment to sue for misinformation. I suspect he's actually Batman. Thank you for your excellent work interviewing him, Marielle. May I suggest another vegan legend, Dr. Michael Greger, as a future interviewee. You may have to interview Dr. Greger while you're walking on a treadmill. :)
I agree it's amazing PCRM advocates for animals and humans alike. He really is a man of many talents; I saw a article about his rockstar lifestyle while researching! I could have talked to him for hours 😊 And yes, a Dr. Greger treadmill interview would be hilarious!!
@@TotallyForkable 100%! I look forward to your future interviews. 😀💚🙏
. . . you said it all !!! 🥰
@@gaBetibu 🥰😊
Wow, Marielle, I know it's not your profession (I don't think?), but you are becoming a very good investigative journalist. I really enjoyed this interview; you asked incisive questions and listened carefully to what Dr. Barnard said, to have an illuminating conversation, and you obviously did your homework before starting. Also, Room Rater would probably give you good marks, LOL! Thanks so much for posting!
Tamara, this means so much coming from you!! One of my goals with my channel this year was to interview influential people in the movement. I have a few more lined up which I think you'll enjoy as well! I definitely did a lot of prep and was super nervous before this one so I'm so happy you appreciated the result!! 🙏🏻🫶🏻 I had to look up what Room Rater was; hilarious--it would be an honor to be rated by them! 🤣
@@TotallyForkable You're welcome! And I AM looking forward to the other interviews!
My comment is criticism and not meant as mean or nasty. Consuming anything while onscreen in an interview is so often seen as rude. People serving and stopping to have a drink is outta line. This behaviour has to stop. I never seen Kim Iverson have to slurp on or consume anything while interviewing a guest. So many of my gen straight away switch off when we find certain behaviour wrong or unacceptable. Ppl can argue and abuse my stand but losing viewer’s by doing something that is a bad habit is counterproductive. Just saying.
@@gonget are you referring to me sipping my water?
@@gonget Your comment can be both critical and ill meant, and seems to be. Many, many people find it rude when their interlocutor has such a dry mouth that they slur or spit visibly on camera, and discreetly having a sip of something to maintain moisture in the mouth when speaking on camera is perfectly acceptable and normal for interviews. If you are going to leave over something this trivial, I must say I wonder about your appreciation for this creator or channel, and, having checked your barely existing channel and your favorited videos, I wonder whether you have ever been here before.
18 minutes in, and I have to say my perception on neil has changed a lot; I used to not like him because 80-10-10 to me is a very restrictive rule, and him advocating for it turns a lot of people of veganism. But I had no idea about all of his work on dairy, great interview so far!
So glad you're enjoying it so far! I ask him about his feelings on oil toward the end, which is something I had long wondered about with the WFPB doctors.
Great video thank you, Dr Neal Barnard is an amazing man, so important this information is shared!
So glad you enjoyed it; he was a joy to talk to!
Thank God for this Doctor! loved the interview, thank you! Off to watch your Aubrey Plaza video now :)
He is great; so glad you enjoyed it! 😊
Great job!! Excellent stuff - there is no healthy oil. It makes me crazy hearing "heart healthy oil" ugh. ❤
It's something I have had a hard time accepting tbh; I'm glad I asked him about it!
@TotallyForkable ooooh have you checked out Dr Peter Rogers MD? He talks about how oil sticks the red blood cells together in a rouleaux formation (like a stack of coins) which causes them to have to bend and squash to get through arteries.
This raises blood pressure and damages artery walls with retrograde flow at the artery joints where the pressure is too great, and the force of larger than normal blood cells hitting artery walls at higher than normal speeds causes an auto immune response because the artery walls detect damage, they form clots to repair the damage. (Which is called Atherosclerosis which is the cause of coronary heart disease).
He obviously explains better than me, but the science is ridiculously easy to understand through Dr Rogers MD.
Thats only one of hundreds of horrible things oil does to us. I didn't want to accept it either but anyone with half a brain can understand it if they look at how it works.
I'd be interested to hear a reaction video to Dr Peter Rogers MD on some of his videos, he's an extraordinary person. 😍💚
I've never heard of him but will have to check it out! What you're describing (re: oil) doesn't sound good!
@@TotallyForkable he's on Chef Aj channel 💚
@@TotallyForkable my comment about the rouleaux formation has disappeared entirely. They almost always do. Anything mentioning that sort of thing is just gone .
Great interview Marielle! You did an awesome job. So true about milk ingredients in chips. I mean really...'milk solids' in salt and vinegar potato chips? WTF!?!
Thank you John; I so appreciate it! And yes it's maddening to find milk powder in every other packaged item. It was so refreshing being in London where things that *seemed* like they'd be vegan *actually were* vegan 🥲
@@TotallyForkable Thank you for your reply Marielle. I'm afraid that being vegan in North America means a lifetime of having to diligently read food labels. Here in Canada, by law the products have to state whether they contain milk , soy, wheat, tree nuts, etc. Unfortunately, the infamous ones like 'milk solids' or the nasty 'gelatin' can be snuck into the ingredients list more or less undetected without the warning statement.
Ahh yes, I almost got duped by a "milk solids" product the other day! My eyes go straight to the bold "Contains:" section at the bottom and if I don't see milk I'm usually in the clear. Thankfully I caught the milk solids through a quick glance at the rest of the ingredients 🙄
Wow! This was really informative how much the dairy industry tries to hide! Thanks!!
It's very eye-opening! So glad you enjoyed it!
great interview!
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Thank you for this discussion. I had not realized the extent of the entrenchment of the meat industry with big business.
It goes so deep and is truly so shocking! The fact that there doesn't have to be any transparency is infuriating!
I find oil to be completely unnecessary in most recipes. I don't use it in dressings, stir fries, hummus and desserts. The only time a bit of oil can be useful is to roast veggies to a crisp in the oven, and even then, there are often other ways of doing this. This doesn't mean I eat fat-free by any means, but I rarely use oil. I even had vegan butter go bad in my fridge.
I think if if I made a bigger effort I could avoid it more; it's just such a part of so many things I make (crispy tofu brushed with sesame oil before air frying, broccoli rabe sautéed with garlic and olive oil, oil/butter on my popcorn, Vegenaise, etc). I guess I have a hard time accepting how it would make my health better given I'm not trying to lose weight, but the stuff he said about hormones did get me thinking.
@@TotallyForkable I love kohlrabi! I just realized over time that oil wasn't needed most of the time in the food I cook. Frankly, other than going vegan, it was one of the biggest cooking revelations to me. I cook tofu so many ways! They all have some fat, usually, but not oil. I make marinades based on tahini or peanut butter, for example.
Sounds intriguing!
Re. people buying low-fat/fat-free milk to avoid saturated fat: "They [the dairy industry] really want to sell that fat and not just throw it in a landfill"
Now I'm picturing a landfill full of dairy fat... 🤢
I love that the two options are: pushed on unsuspecting Americans or sitting in a landfill 🤦🏻♀️
@@TotallyForkable I know! It's gross, but it also reminds me of how much I loved white cheddar popcorn, and now thinking about that snack just grosses me out. I wish there was a vegan version that was just as good, but then again, it's probably best for my figure if there isn't one lol. 😅
OMG I loved Smartfood!! The Earth Balance White Cheddar popcorn was the closest thing to it, but they discontinued it 😩 (and DON'T get me started on their Sour Cream & Onion Kettle Chips! 😡)
Also damages the endothelial cells. Read Dr Eselstyn. Or Dr Colin Campbell.
I really hope big dairy wasn't behind Prince's Cream song at least. 😂
You can never be too sure! 🤪
Omg good call, I never would have thought of that!! ❤
Will the book available as an audiobook? How can I join the bookclub when I don't live in D.C. I think the book club is a great idea!
It's a virtual book club; you have to register here! www.pcrm.org/events/power-foods-book-club
And it looks like the book is on Audible!
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Super informative!
Thanks Jess!! 🫶🏻🙏🏻
What is DMI.
He explains what it is at 02:15 ❤️ It's basically a government-backed dairy marketing organization in the US.
Oil is bad, mmmkay?
Haha, I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not!
@@TotallyForkable Not! As I've come to understand it, oil is an extracted, isolated compound, and all extracted compounds, consumed in isolation, are essentially drugs, and drugs are bad, mmmkay? (South Park reference.)
Hahah I get it now! I def need to do more research when it comes to oil.
a bit of oil is fine. getting hung up on this kind of stuff is stupid
@@undefinedfirstnameundefine7820 do you claim to be master of your moderation domain?
I love milk! I get organic A2 milk from Alexandrea Farms. I get organic cheese from either Sierra Nevada or Rumiano. We eat Nancy's sour cream, cream cheese and yogurt. Yum to all these products. ( I am 72 years old and super healthy). Oh I also love either Sierra Nevada or Rumiano butter and love a good plate of scrambled eggs.
Okay!
Cows milk has a nutrient that fights cancer, researchers at UChicago discoverd November last year. It might help the vegan influencers who have cancer, if they let go of their ideology.
What's the nutrient called?
The study you reference is in Nature, and it actually says that while the nutrient might help cancer, the adsorption/transfer rate is relatively low when consuming diary and meat products.
@@TotallyForkable "Scientists at UChicago discover that trans-vaccenic acid (TVA), a fatty acid found in beef, lamb, and dairy products, improves the ability of immune cells to fight tumors.
November 22, 2023"
@@helenapflaum6800 Quote from the author "“To see that a single nutrient like TVA has a very targeted mechanism on a targeted immune cell type, with a very profound physiological response at the whole organism level-I find that really amazing and intriguing.” Key words, "very profound physiological response."
@@TotallyForkable TVA.
Cold pressed olive oil is super healthy and delicious, no one will ever be able to convince me to not eat olive oil
I'd have a very hard time giving up olive oil!
"A dietary pattern preferring dairy products was associated with increased survival in Tokyo-area centenarians." 2003 article title: Dietary patterns and further survival in Japanese centenarians. The Japan school lunch system serves whole milk to each student every day. You should tell the Japan population of 125 million that all their lactose intolerant kids will end up destroying their health and the environment even though they are living in the country with the highest life expectancy, the highest egg consumption rate, the highest IQ and one of the lowest cancer and obesity rates in the world. Barnard is an unemployed Psychiatrist highly trained to psych people out with false information.