Seems to me that if you want to talk about numbers that are very big, and the specific digits are not that important (as one would hope if you are using Toki Pona to talk about it), you could try to describe the number of digits. for instance, a Googol is a big number, but you could describe it as 100 digits. if a hundred is to big, you could talk about five twenties, right? In other words, talking in logarithms. It seems to be in the spirit of Toki Pona from my point of view, but I'm totally new to this so I'm not sure if that is really true.
ijo li mute · ijo ante li lili · lon toki ni sina la sina toki e ni : jan li ken toki seme e ante mute ni · taso nasin ante kin li lon · mi o toki e ona · ‹sina la mi suli› · ni li toki e seme · ken li mute · ken la sina pilin e ni : mi suli · anu sina wan li mama mi li suli e mi tan ni · mute ken li ike · tan ni la mi toki e ni : ‹sina en mi la mi suli› · ni li lili pona e ken · teken ante la mi ken toki e ‹kili la mi musi tan pan› · ‹kili› li toki e tenpo kili anu seme · mi o toki ni ante : ‹kili en pan la mi musi tan pan› · kin jan li ken kepeken nimi ‹sin› anu nimi ‹a› · mi o toki e teken · ‹mi ken ijo tu · pona la mi o lape · taso pona a la mi o toki tawa sewi› · anu ‹pan li wile e mani · taso pan pona li wile e mani sin› · taso mute en lili li toki ala e sona suli · ken la jan li wile kepeken nanpa · ona o ni seme · jan li ken pakala e suli anu mute kepeken nanpa · mi o teken e ni · ‹tenpo la sewi li laso · tenpo laso li tenpo tu la mi pali lon tenpo wan› · ni la mi pakala e tenpo · tan pakala la jan li ken sona pona e suli tenpo · teken ante la mi toki e ni : ‹ma mi la nasin kalama pi teken «r» li tu · jan ali ma li sama jan san · ni la jan tu li kalama kepeken noka uta · kin jan wan li kalama kepeken sinpin uta› · ijo ante la tenpo 18:59 la kalama sina en luka sina li ante · pilin mi la sina toki pakala lon tenpo toki · taso sina wile pona e ona tawa kulupu · tan ni la sina ante e teken e kalama · sina wan e ona · taso mama la ona li tu ·
sina la mi suli.... nnn, ijo nanpa wan la, mi sona e ante mute ken! taso, mi toki e ken ante pi ijo poka, e ken ante lon pilin. mi toki ala e ken ni: mi kama suli tan sina. mi toki ala e ni tan ni: sona ni li tawa tenpo ante li lon ala sitelen ni :P mi toki e ni ante lon sitelen ante, lon sitelen pi nimi ni: ona li poki e sona poka. taso, sina toki lon: sina kepeken nimi mute la sina ken lili e ken lon toki tawa sona pona pi jan kute. ijo nanpa tu la, ni kin li nasin pona! ijo nanpa tu wan la, mi toki ala e nasin nanpa lon sitelen ni kin. taso nanpa kin li ken ante lon nasin ni: seme li ante lon ijo tu? taso, sina kepeken nanpa lon toki sina la, sina wile ni anu seme: tenpo laso li tenpo nanpa tu la mi wile pali lon tenpo nanpa wan. ni en ni pi ante ala li pana lili e sona tawa mi :P sina toki e ni: sewi li laso lon tenpo la tenpo laso li lon. tenpo laso li tenpo (nanpa) tu. ni la sina pali lon tenpo (nanpa) wan. tenpo wan li lon ala lon poka mama tawa tenpo tu? lon la sina toki ala e ni sama tan seme: tenpo pi sewi laso la mi pali lon tenpo poka. mi pali lon tenpo ni: sewi li laso ala. toki sina li ken pana e sona, taso toki ni^ li lili li pana e sona sama anu seme? ijo nanpa pini la mi sona ala lon tenpo ni, a a. taso, mi ni mute lon sitelen ante la ken suli la ni li lon a!
@@gregdan3d ‹tenpo laso li tu la ijo› · mi toki e ni la mi wile toki e ni : suli pi tenpo laso li ni · mi tu e tenpo ni la mi pali lon tenpo wan · ni la mi pali ni tu la ni li tenpo laso wan ·
In history, yes, you do need to know dates. For example, if you know that America declared independence in 1776, then when someone tells you that the French revolution happened in 1789 you will know which came first. If you don't know the 1776 date, you won't know how the two events relate, and if someone tells you that the French revolution inspired the American uprising you won't be able to know that they are talking BS.
A few points to make: - If you were familiar with both of these events as a listener, simply describing them without the date would likely be enough for a listener to remember the date on their own. - In day to day conversation, super precise time information usually isn't needed unless you're on somebody else's schedule. It definitely depends on the culture, but my experience in the south US is that "this evening" is already an acceptable level of time precision for planning something. If it can be done in English, why not Toki Pona? - If you need it, there are plenty of systems for discussing larger numbers and stating dates more precisely. I would recommend nasin nanpa pona, which uses the pu system (ale=100, mute=20, luka=5, tu=2, wan=1) and multiplies whenever a smaller number appears in front of a larger one. For example: tenpo sike ni li nanpa mute ale mute tu tu. This circle-time (year) is the 20*100 + 20+2+2th, or 2024th.
you are very good at teaching these lessons! can't wait for today's meetup. i'll probably watch the video from last week's meetup (I missed it)
Slayed
very good :3
pana sona pona a!
toki pona is super easy
mi sona sama e sina sona
Seems to me that if you want to talk about numbers that are very big, and the specific digits are not that important (as one would hope if you are using Toki Pona to talk about it), you could try to describe the number of digits. for instance, a Googol is a big number, but you could describe it as 100 digits. if a hundred is to big, you could talk about five twenties, right? In other words, talking in logarithms. It seems to be in the spirit of Toki Pona from my point of view, but I'm totally new to this so I'm not sure if that is really true.
ijo li mute · ijo ante li lili · lon toki ni sina la sina toki e ni : jan li ken toki seme e ante mute ni · taso nasin ante kin li lon · mi o toki e ona ·
‹sina la mi suli› · ni li toki e seme · ken li mute · ken la sina pilin e ni : mi suli · anu sina wan li mama mi li suli e mi tan ni · mute ken li ike · tan ni la mi toki e ni : ‹sina en mi la mi suli› · ni li lili pona e ken · teken ante la mi ken toki e ‹kili la mi musi tan pan› · ‹kili› li toki e tenpo kili anu seme · mi o toki ni ante : ‹kili en pan la mi musi tan pan› ·
kin jan li ken kepeken nimi ‹sin› anu nimi ‹a› · mi o toki e teken · ‹mi ken ijo tu · pona la mi o lape · taso pona a la mi o toki tawa sewi› · anu ‹pan li wile e mani · taso pan pona li wile e mani sin› ·
taso mute en lili li toki ala e sona suli · ken la jan li wile kepeken nanpa · ona o ni seme · jan li ken pakala e suli anu mute kepeken nanpa · mi o teken e ni · ‹tenpo la sewi li laso · tenpo laso li tenpo tu la mi pali lon tenpo wan› · ni la mi pakala e tenpo · tan pakala la jan li ken sona pona e suli tenpo · teken ante la mi toki e ni : ‹ma mi la nasin kalama pi teken «r» li tu · jan ali ma li sama jan san · ni la jan tu li kalama kepeken noka uta · kin jan wan li kalama kepeken sinpin uta› ·
ijo ante la tenpo 18:59 la kalama sina en luka sina li ante · pilin mi la sina toki pakala lon tenpo toki · taso sina wile pona e ona tawa kulupu · tan ni la sina ante e teken e kalama · sina wan e ona · taso mama la ona li tu ·
sina la mi suli.... nnn, ijo nanpa wan la, mi sona e ante mute ken! taso, mi toki e ken ante pi ijo poka, e ken ante lon pilin. mi toki ala e ken ni: mi kama suli tan sina. mi toki ala e ni tan ni: sona ni li tawa tenpo ante li lon ala sitelen ni :P mi toki e ni ante lon sitelen ante, lon sitelen pi nimi ni: ona li poki e sona poka. taso, sina toki lon: sina kepeken nimi mute la sina ken lili e ken lon toki tawa sona pona pi jan kute.
ijo nanpa tu la, ni kin li nasin pona!
ijo nanpa tu wan la, mi toki ala e nasin nanpa lon sitelen ni kin. taso nanpa kin li ken ante lon nasin ni: seme li ante lon ijo tu? taso, sina kepeken nanpa lon toki sina la, sina wile ni anu seme: tenpo laso li tenpo nanpa tu la mi wile pali lon tenpo nanpa wan. ni en ni pi ante ala li pana lili e sona tawa mi :P sina toki e ni: sewi li laso lon tenpo la tenpo laso li lon. tenpo laso li tenpo (nanpa) tu. ni la sina pali lon tenpo (nanpa) wan. tenpo wan li lon ala lon poka mama tawa tenpo tu? lon la sina toki ala e ni sama tan seme: tenpo pi sewi laso la mi pali lon tenpo poka. mi pali lon tenpo ni: sewi li laso ala.
toki sina li ken pana e sona, taso toki ni^ li lili li pana e sona sama anu seme?
ijo nanpa pini la mi sona ala lon tenpo ni, a a. taso, mi ni mute lon sitelen ante la ken suli la ni li lon a!
@@gregdan3d ‹tenpo laso li tu la ijo› · mi toki e ni la mi wile toki e ni : suli pi tenpo laso li ni · mi tu e tenpo ni la mi pali lon tenpo wan · ni la mi pali ni tu la ni li tenpo laso wan ·
"teken" li nimi seme?
@@mirrortarget5729 a mi kepeken ‹teken› tawa nimi ‹sitelen› ·
In history, yes, you do need to know dates. For example, if you know that America declared independence in 1776, then when someone tells you that the French revolution happened in 1789 you will know which came first. If you don't know the 1776 date, you won't know how the two events relate, and if someone tells you that the French revolution inspired the American uprising you won't be able to know that they are talking BS.
A few points to make:
- If you were familiar with both of these events as a listener, simply describing them without the date would likely be enough for a listener to remember the date on their own.
- In day to day conversation, super precise time information usually isn't needed unless you're on somebody else's schedule. It definitely depends on the culture, but my experience in the south US is that "this evening" is already an acceptable level of time precision for planning something. If it can be done in English, why not Toki Pona?
- If you need it, there are plenty of systems for discussing larger numbers and stating dates more precisely. I would recommend nasin nanpa pona, which uses the pu system (ale=100, mute=20, luka=5, tu=2, wan=1) and multiplies whenever a smaller number appears in front of a larger one. For example: tenpo sike ni li nanpa mute ale mute tu tu. This circle-time (year) is the 20*100 + 20+2+2th, or 2024th.
fyi this video isn't in any of your playlists
a! mi pana e ona tawa kulupu ni: sona li lon li poka
sina pona a!
@@gregdan3d sitelen sona sina li pona! sina pona a!
a sitelen ni la sina kepeken ala nimi "sama"
ni li lon a. mi o toki e ni lon tenpo kama a
mi pakala 😅