Very nice video. I love Marauders, got the Kronos first and now also own a Vargur. Love the Kronos for it so easy to use rails in missions with its 58km optimal and 139km falloff with antimatter. The Vargur i build for close range and i love it, shield tanking with 5363 reps from my shield set up always make me smile.
ive try the Vargur in Nullsec, soloplayer..1400m Artys, was thinking if im always 80km from the side im save...but man on the way back to the station, the whole Nullsec was waking up cockroaches coming out everywhere, back in the homesystem they were already alerted and camping...only luck i got away..cloaked and drove away with 40 m/s...i was just praying for the cloak not to stop working suddenly.
Ooo impresive video ! Gratz and Thanks :) I love to fly marauders , hehe but Paladin i just love it ....i preffer to safe rating whit it ., Beam or Tacyon Beam Lasers ..its abit slow but on 180km+ keep me safe :) ...most of the times :) MWD+bastion trick ...insta warp off .Cheers o/
Years ago i trained up marauders v to run L4s in hisec, back then there was no bastion mode for it and we had tractor beams and salvagers. I think i used to get 150m/h from 0.5 L4s, without taking LP points into account. Pala and Vargur were my babies😂
@@luwinson3047 but what if there was a drone ship truly better than ishtar? Feels like beyond ishtar... you either rat in a marauder or just get more ishtar accounts lol
Yes. I think I did an oopsie there. The graphic was made right at the end of editing so I might have just done a whoopsie there. I am gonna pin this :d
Recently tried this in nullsec in ph space and lost 7 bill in like a week. Its really not something you can do when people will uncloak and cyno in 30 lokis on you.
this guide misses a lot of things. You want to rat sanctums and Havens. As a solo player, you will have to start from a NPC station...usually you have to travel at least 5 jumps to find a system that has very low traffic but several good sites. More like 5-10 jumps. Thats the first problem. The ship has to be fitted accordingly. MWD, cloak. 3 Inertia stabs. When you make it to the system of your choice, go to savespot, build mobile depot (Wetu-mobile-depot is always better, it takes much longer to probe it down) and fir from travel-to dmg fit. I choose modul and Ammo so i can apply good damage on 80-100km distance. I also fit a Large Energy neut. If a frigatte somehow makes it through to you and you cant hit, in my case because of very bad tracking...you have a chance to neut it to zero and then warp to safespot. In no case, under any circumstances, would i ever stay an the site or close to it. 80km-100km is the absolute minimum. its fun to pop them on such a long distance, but i gotta say on the long term its not worth it for me. Because of tze fact that i cannot use autocannons but only Artys, i make about 1500dps. Thats without imps or booster. My Loki does 1000dps. my Tengu does almost 1000 or 1200 kinetic. they are safer and faster.
It's not unless you have a team or large group of people and are living in a particular area. Doing that amount solo will result in isk loss or severe isk per hour mitigation if done solo for the vast majority of people.
That's how almost all of these Eve isk-making videos are. Technically it's possible to achieve what he is saying but realistically/practically you will either have your isk per hour severely mitigated while waiting for pirates to leave you alone or you will lose enough isk to ganking to nullify or put you into isk negative.
A lightly blinged torp Golem (less than 2b total for ship and fit) in Guristas space clears a Haven in ten minutes or less. Each Haven is worth about 50m or so in bounties alone, not counting loot and salvage. You can easily do five Havens an hour taking into account warping between sites and occasionally safe'ing up for a few minutes as a hostile passes by. That's 250m per hour ez. If you're getting less than 200m per hour, your skills are low, your fit is bad or you are bad.
@@Abzocold haven is 35mill tics on average including loot. If you want to point out misleading videos don't bullsh*t yourself. The video was informative when looked at through the right glasses.
@@sjmaury I didn't point out it was a misleading video, the OP of this thread did. I was arguing that it is realistic. And if you're only getting 35m per haven then you must have a very safe system with a 0% bounty risk modifier. But my point still stands because 35m x5 havens an hour is 175m per hour. The OP said 150-250 isn't realistic when it obviously is, even in a bad system.
Just wanna inform you that you can make 500-800m/hr in a wh and with a bit of a hole control it can be "safe" th-cam.com/video/N7ORMg4plFg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GustavMannfred
2.4-5k dps with a Paladin, effective vs Gurista about 1300~~ 3.5-6k dps with a Golem, effective vs Gurista about 2500~~ its literally x2 times the speed.
@@BBRAIN1977 Gurista rats have Kinetic as the lowest resist, so if you do pure missile/torpedo kinetic damage you apply to the target the most effective damage at all times. Meanwhile Lazers do Thermal/Em , so you waste 60-70% of your damage output due to rat resistances. Hybrid weapons are another good pick vs specifically Gurista, as the second lowest resist the rats have is Thermal, so you don't waste as much effective damage as if you were using Lasers or Guns. Downside of Golems is projectile travel time, so if you know the target dies in 3 weapon cycles, in reality if you keep shooting they might die after 5-6 , wasting half the missiles. Effectively you have to count missile cycles to produce the highest output of constnat dps.
yeah your lucky if 1 player shows up in 20 hours of playing i was a member never anyone online and you must be in 5 fleet battels a month or they kick you even if you are a newbi
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RIP that Vedmak 😂
What was he thinking lol
F in chat for that Vedmak lol
Building towards The Paladin since I started 32 months ago. Flying a Navy Omen at the mo and skill building for The Paladin slowly. Nice video.
Very nice video. I love Marauders, got the Kronos first and now also own a Vargur. Love the Kronos for it so easy to use rails in missions with its 58km optimal and 139km falloff with antimatter. The Vargur i build for close range and i love it, shield tanking with 5363 reps from my shield set up always make me smile.
hi, could you share your Vargur fit? thanks
Casually wiping out a Horde Vedmak during ratting. Just another day on the job.
ive try the Vargur in Nullsec, soloplayer..1400m Artys, was thinking if im always 80km from the side im save...but man on the way back to the station, the whole Nullsec was waking up cockroaches coming out everywhere, back in the homesystem they were already alerted and camping...only luck i got away..cloaked and drove away with 40 m/s...i was just praying for the cloak not to stop working suddenly.
Ooo impresive video ! Gratz and Thanks :) I love to fly marauders , hehe but Paladin i just love it ....i preffer to safe rating whit it ., Beam or Tacyon Beam Lasers ..its abit slow but on 180km+ keep me safe :) ...most of the times :) MWD+bastion trick ...insta warp off .Cheers o/
thanks
6:32 lmfao I see what you did there
Years ago i trained up marauders v to run L4s in hisec, back then there was no bastion mode for it and we had tractor beams and salvagers. I think i used to get 150m/h from 0.5 L4s, without taking LP points into account. Pala and Vargur were my babies😂
Is ok to rat in . Or just use for escelations
is this video still valid since they nerfed the bastion cycle time ?
its duble now from 30sec to 60sec so its duble more chance to get droped
Sir, now that there have been changes in the marauders could you make an updated video about it? Plz...
I use golem to rat in serpentis space, I was told if a dread rat spawns on me I could get killed, how do I deal with this?
The Dreadnought only Warp disrupts, it does not warp scramble. Just fit a Micro Jump Drive.
Can these do Sanctums?
if a marauder is a mini-dreadnaught, can we get a mini-carrier?
U mean ishtar? 😂
@@luwinson3047 but what if there was a drone ship truly better than ishtar? Feels like beyond ishtar... you either rat in a marauder or just get more ishtar accounts lol
@@luwinson3047eos*
@@Astra_Agnonis eos better than navy domi?
Is the pally still viable for angel rats, or should i stay using it in the drone lands?
Pally still pretty decent, I'd say to go with a golem if you want to be 100% efficient but you can manage to pull some 200M isk/h with a paladin
The Paladin has not the right Resistence Mods for Guristas Havens or ? They do Kin/Ther and your Resis Mods are EM .
Ah looked further its for Serpentis
How is it possible to have 250mil/h with a marouder? Like vargur
You wrote that paladin is best in serpentis and blood raider space but said drone space and blood raider space. Was that a typo in your list?
Yes. I think I did an oopsie there. The graphic was made right at the end of editing so I might have just done a whoopsie there. I am gonna pin this :d
@@i-401_ytlol what happened
So can I use a Vargur in blood raider/sansha space, or do I have to use a Paladin? Can't fly a Paladin yet, but a Vargur...
And for Dronelandia, wish one is better?
Paladin
Funny how that Ved turned hero to zero in 20sec..
I wonder how well it scales with 8 marauder alts
You can multibox 8 marauders at once?
Great help/video :-) U warp to zero in heavens/gas heaven??
Normally at 30 with my Paladin
how many isk per hour?
the only thing that makes this better is 2-3mach also smart bombing the site
Your home in Deklein ?
still worth it with 60 seconds siege?
Yeah, but scarier when reds are around lol
I can... Fly a Kronos... I also triple box u got room ?
Is ratting in a Thanatos still good?
Yes!
Recently tried this in nullsec in ph space and lost 7 bill in like a week. Its really not something you can do when people will uncloak and cyno in 30 lokis on you.
Well yeah, PH space is kinda filled to the brim with spies. I am not in PH so kinda don't have that issue.
@@i-401_yt have any recommendations?
@@narcoti Well, you could join my corp if you wanted to. My discord is linked in the video description :D
@@i-401_yt Gotcha, my friend reached out and apparently yall are at war with Ph so lmao .
@@narcoti It should still be fine to join up tho. Just DM me on discord I guess
I'll let you know how is it flying in one in about 4-5 months :D
@1:35 bastion is 1 min, not 30 seconds
yeah, but when you have about, 25 secs left you can warp to station, by the time ur there the timer will go down.
this guide misses a lot of things. You want to rat sanctums and Havens. As a solo player, you will have to start from a NPC station...usually you have to travel at least 5 jumps to find a system that has very low traffic but several good sites. More like 5-10 jumps. Thats the first problem. The ship has to be fitted accordingly. MWD, cloak. 3 Inertia stabs. When you make it to the system of your choice, go to savespot, build mobile depot (Wetu-mobile-depot is always better, it takes much longer to probe it down) and fir from travel-to dmg fit. I choose modul and Ammo so i can apply good damage on 80-100km distance. I also fit a Large Energy neut. If a frigatte somehow makes it through to you and you cant hit, in my case because of very bad tracking...you have a chance to neut it to zero and then warp to safespot. In no case, under any circumstances, would i ever stay an the site or close to it. 80km-100km is the absolute minimum. its fun to pop them on such a long distance, but i gotta say on the long term its not worth it for me. Because of tze fact that i cannot use autocannons but only Artys, i make about 1500dps. Thats without imps or booster. My Loki does 1000dps. my Tengu does almost 1000 or 1200 kinetic. they are safer and faster.
This is not for solo people, use a system with citadel, or put your own they only cost like 2b
HAHA that vedmak got dumped on
250/hour i think is fake news number
I use a vargur and get the same numbers. I also use an ishtar which is a little less (100m/h). So yeah not fake and honestly you can make way more..
really 250m with paladin? that much is easy with gila. Well used paladin can give you 1b/h with singlebox
how?
@@brendonprophette8890 doing core garrissons without drifter in c5
It's not unless you have a team or large group of people and are living in a particular area. Doing that amount solo will result in isk loss or severe isk per hour mitigation if done solo for the vast majority of people.
@@ToastyWaffle456 i'm doing it solo, for c5 sites you need only 2.5kdps tank
Solo within non-owned space is not going to work for the vast majority of people. It will result in the two issues I mentioned eariler.
Big bozo, but good videos, love them!
bro i want to kill triglavians in high sec easily and at ease
150M to 250M per hour isnt really realistic... And the video doesnt really show how you should get to that also...
That's how almost all of these Eve isk-making videos are. Technically it's possible to achieve what he is saying but realistically/practically you will either have your isk per hour severely mitigated while waiting for pirates to leave you alone or you will lose enough isk to ganking to nullify or put you into isk negative.
A lightly blinged torp Golem (less than 2b total for ship and fit) in Guristas space clears a Haven in ten minutes or less. Each Haven is worth about 50m or so in bounties alone, not counting loot and salvage. You can easily do five Havens an hour taking into account warping between sites and occasionally safe'ing up for a few minutes as a hostile passes by. That's 250m per hour ez. If you're getting less than 200m per hour, your skills are low, your fit is bad or you are bad.
@@Abzocold haven is 35mill tics on average including loot. If you want to point out misleading videos don't bullsh*t yourself. The video was informative when looked at through the right glasses.
@@sjmaury I didn't point out it was a misleading video, the OP of this thread did. I was arguing that it is realistic. And if you're only getting 35m per haven then you must have a very safe system with a 0% bounty risk modifier. But my point still stands because 35m x5 havens an hour is 175m per hour. The OP said 150-250 isn't realistic when it obviously is, even in a bad system.
So nothing to do with fit or skills but more with circumstances
Actually you can... 1:00 ah okay.
Just wanna inform you that you can make 500-800m/hr in a wh and with a bit of a hole control it can be "safe" th-cam.com/video/N7ORMg4plFg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GustavMannfred
Pala is only useful in Blood and Sansha space lmao, golem is 100x better against serps and guristas..
F Vedmak lol
You mean what is the best way to loose a marauder vs blops? Cuz that's how you loose your marauder to drops real fast.
Sounds like you need safer space.
Gurista with a paladin...yikes
The only Marauder I fly :d
They put out such a gross amount of damage it is just a min max question over a viability question
2.4-5k dps with a Paladin, effective vs Gurista about 1300~~
3.5-6k dps with a Golem, effective vs Gurista about 2500~~ its literally x2 times the speed.
@@filipfenix so where is the dmg difference comes from ?
@@BBRAIN1977 Gurista rats have Kinetic as the lowest resist, so if you do pure missile/torpedo kinetic damage you apply to the target the most effective damage at all times.
Meanwhile Lazers do Thermal/Em , so you waste 60-70% of your damage output due to rat resistances.
Hybrid weapons are another good pick vs specifically Gurista, as the second lowest resist the rats have is Thermal, so you don't waste as much effective damage as if you were using Lasers or Guns.
Downside of Golems is projectile travel time, so if you know the target dies in 3 weapon cycles, in reality if you keep shooting they might die after 5-6 , wasting half the missiles. Effectively you have to count missile cycles to produce the highest output of constnat dps.
yeah your lucky if 1 player shows up in 20 hours of playing i was a member never anyone online and you must be in 5 fleet battels a month or they kick you even if you are a newbi