I’d like to make a case for Edward. True, Awdry describes Edward as a Furness K2, but in the stories Edward undergoes several overhauls that ultimately end up with him barely resembling what he looked like to begin with. A closer match to the real Edward isn’t a standard K2, but actually NS 1600. This engine is not only preserved and built by the same manufacturer and works, but is practically a K2 albeit modified to operate in Holland (Where it still remains today in a railway museum).
That Makes Only Thomas and Toby The Dead Characters From The Steam Team, Because All The E2s and J70s Were Scrapped. The J70 Replica of Toby Doesn't Count.
I think it’s kinda intriguing how 9 of the 9Fs are preserved. And although Molly’s class is extinct, hopefully it won’t be for too much longer now. Also funny fact, one of Porter’s siblings was turned into a replica of Thomas for a Day Out with Thomas event.
The engine is known as Burlington Eastern District Terminal 15 (B.E.D.T) which was purchased by Strasburg and arrived on May 9th 1998 before being rebuilt into Strasburg Thomas which still exists now although rumor or truth a supposed incident involving a test run of the rebuilt porter supposedly the eyes of the face had melted from the heat leaving 2 large holes where the eyes were which might have been why the face was revamped
Nia is based on a Kenya-Uganda Railway (KUR) ED1 class, a class of 2-6-2 tank locomotive built by Vulcan Foundry for the Kenya-Uganda Railway between 1926 and 1930. Primarily used for shunting duties, they were also used to haul branch line trains. They were later operated by the East African Railways and were reclassified as part of the EAR 11 class. One member of this class, No. 327, has been preserved
4:01 Depends...if you count the dutch NS 1600 class then has one distant cousin survived (NRS 107) and is preserved in the Nederlands Spoorwegmuseum in Utrecht. (Because both FR K2 und NS 1600 steam locomotives were built around the same time (1889-1903) and from the same builder (Sharp, Stewart and Company) and both look very similiar.
Isn't the Flying Scotsman a real character in the Thomas universe? This would mean that Gordon would be dead, since the Flying Scotsman is another character
See, this is what we call a technicality, as Gordon is a fictional SECOND preserved A1/A3 befire Tornado was built. As in, he is explicitly remarked as one of the last in the RWS
No Gordon is still alive. Technically when news hit sodor of Gordon's Brothers and Sisters all being scrapped, Gordon felt sad and didn't want to pull the express for a few days. So the Fat Controller asked LNER for the Flying Scotsman to visit Gordon to cheer him up. We see this in the season 1 episode Tenders. Although we only see Flying Scotsman's two tenders.
@@gamingninja5196 I was not talking about the RWS lore, but the context of this video. The guy said that Gordon would still be alive if he was a real engine because he is pretty much the same model as the Flying Scotsman, but the Flying Scotsman is already a separate character in the RWS universe and even TTE. So irl Gordon would be dead
Merlin is actually The King Arthur class but the more accurate class was a war experimental engine by Oliver Bulleid which has 3 funnels and can create steam to "be invisible". (All of this information is from Thomas theorist's video called Rebbeca's family tree -Explained"
Are we not mentioning that the real merlin of the king arthur class was not the one to get the experiment and it was actually sir gillamere...i might have misspelled that
Kenji from the CGI era is based off the 0 Series Shinkansen, which was in service on the Tokaido Shinkansen line connecting Tokyo and Osaka from 1964 when the line first opened up until they were retired in 2008. Much like Hiro's basis D51 class locomotive, the 0 Series Shinkansen has been preserved at various museums and parks across Japan. The leading vehicle of a 0 Series Shinkansen is also preserved at the National Railway Museum in York, UK, and is the only 0 Series Shinkansen that is preserved in a museum outside of Japan. While not a TTTE character, I also figured that Enmu from Demon Slayer: Mugen Train is also worth a shoutout here. The train used in the arc is based off the JGR Class 8620 2-6-0 steam locomotive, which were built between 1914 and 1929. Of the 672 manufactured, around 20 units have been preserved. Number 8620, the first engine of the class, is currently preserved at the Ome Railway Park in Ome, Tokyo, while number 8630 is preserved in working order at the Kyoto Railway Museum in Kyoto. In 2020 and 2021, 8630 was given a special 無限 (Mugen) nameplate and a special excursion train was ran to promote the movie as well.
Those were Scrap Models from broken parts the crew had. I choose to believe Sir Topham Hatt would never scrap any engines, but maybe the Scrap Models could represent other scrapped engines from around the world that were brought to Sodor for what they usually use it for.
Sam is based on Virginian Railway's 2-6-6-6 AG class "Blue Ridges" built by Lima locomotive works in 1945. All of them were scrapped. None survived. However, four years before Virginian Railway bought the 2-6-6-6's, the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway bought extreme similar H8 class 2-6-6-6 locomotives known as the "Alleghenies" built by the same workshop between 1941 and 1948, only two members of the class survived today.
There are several other characters from the Christopher Awdry Railway Series books. Pip and Emma being Class 43 HSTs. Wilbert and Sixteen being Hunslet Austerity saddle tanks. Bear is a Class 35 Hymek. D199 looks like a Class 37. The Snowdon Mountain Railway locos also feature as Godred, Wilfred, Culdee and Lord Harry. The Talyllyn Railway's Tom Rolt also appears as Ivo Hugh. Ravenglass' Northern Rock stars as Jock, as well as one of their diesels as Frank. There is also Neil the Box Tank and mainline visitors Jinty and Pug, as well as Flying Scotsman. GWR autocoaches also appear as Isabel, Dulcie, Alice and Mirabel. Finally there is Bulstrode the boat. Preserved 488 Adams and SECR Ps Bluebell and Primrose also get a mention. Like City of Truro, they have no faces, though they never visit Sodor.
One small correction regarding Henry, the photo shown next to him is actually a Standard 5. The most notable visual difference is the angle of the front of the cab - original Stanier designs had flat-fronted cabs, while their BR Standard redesigns have the front of the cab at a 45 degree angle from the side.
@@Polskaboi You do realize that the Black 5 and Standard 5 share much of their design, right? A rebuild could have easily been done. Or do you want to try insisting that Scotsman can only ever be designated as an A1 simply because its number wasn't changed after it was rebuilt into an A3?
@@VestedUTuber it would easily be possible but it would not be worth it because they had the same power classifcation and it would have to be in br days because that was when the standard 5 was built but then diesels started to roll out so it wouldn't really be worth it (if my spelling is of im sorry english is not my native language
The main way I tell them apart is the area between the smokebox and the buffer beam. All the BR standard designs have a steep slope with steps(?) on it.
None of the New York central hudsons were preserved except for a converted tender from J-1d 5313, which is preserved at the Steamtown National Historic Site in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
Well Audrey Said That Edward was Based On The K2 Class But Since you Said There's 2 More Types of Engines that have a Resemblance to Edward So That Would Explain Why The K2s Cabs look like James' Cab But Edward has A 2 Rectangle Windows on the Sides
I don’t doubt you’ve already gotten a comment tell you this, but Donald and Douglas are *technically* Caledonian 652s. Although they look pretty much the same as 812s. Great video btw.
Edward and James are my two favorite characters, yes, it maybe sad that his basis were scrapped, but I am so proud that the NBR K class and the LNER D40 survived, but don't forget the LSWR T9 that's also preserved, it maybe slightly similar to FR K2, but see the T9's smokebox? It looks similar to Edward's, and also built in 1880's. you also forgot one Irish inside cylindered 2-6-0 Mogul that looked like James except Broad Guage is preserved, it's the Dublin and South Eastern Railway 15 and 16, only 461 (15) was preserved by Railway Preservation Society of Ireland, and I'm so proud of it.
You are right because LNER D40 LSWR T9 AND NBR K CLASS all of them are quite similar to Edward all of them survived preservation and now all of them are remained in present day museum
Yep. Other 4-4-0's similar to Edward that I wished were preserved were NER R1 class 4-4-0 (may look truly resembled Edward in the Railway series and Television series, but too big) And the LNER D31 also known as NBR M class (the D31 looked very Accurate to Edward in the Television series (except for circled windows like Thomas'), and also built between 1884 and 1899). But we still got LSWR T9, LNER D40, and NBR K class. By
Okay, but another steam locomotive with a similar design to the Funerss K2 is called the LSWR T3, but I prefer the D40 LNER NBR K CLASS and LSWR T9 because for me it is better in my humble opinion.😊👍♥️🚂
Book Series: - Ivo Hugh (based on Tom Rolt on Tallylyn Railway, still in service) - Fred (based on Alf on Talyllyn Railway, still in service) - Bear (BR Class 35 "Hymek", four in preservation) - D199 aka "Spamcan" (BR Class 46 "Peak", three in preservation) - Pip and Emma (BR Class 43, thirteen in preservation) - Victoria, Helena (Furness Railway Second Class Coach, status unknown) - Albert (Furness Railway J1 class, scrapped) - Godred (based on Ladas on Snowdon Mountain Railway, scrapped) - Ernest (based on Enid on Snowdon Mountain Railway, out of service but still exists) - Wilfred (based on Wyddfa on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service) - Culdee (based on Snowdon on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service) - Shane Dooiney (based on Moel Siabod on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service) - Lord Harry/No. 6/Patrick (based on Padarn (formerly Sir Harmood) on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service) - Alaric (based on Ralph (formerly Alywin) on Snowdon Mountain Railway, withdrawn from service) - Eric (based on Eryri on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service) - Neil (Neilson 0-4-0 box tank, scrapped) - Frank (based on Perkins on Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, still in service) - Jock (based on Northern Rock on Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, still in service) - Blister I and Blister II (based on Cyril on Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, still in service) - Sigrid of Arlsedale (based on Shelagh of Eskdale on Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, still in service) - Stanley aka TV series' "Smudger" (Baldwin Class 10-12-D, four in preservation)
That song at the end is so beautifully nostalgic for me. It’s from Gale of Darkness. Such a light hearted song, despite the game having a somewhat cryptic title.
in my au edward looked like a real k2 but nr 1 wich was niels brother had gone mad and bashed himself into a munitions shed edward was nearby and badly damaged the tender was replaced due to it not being anymore but only ash and thats how we have the inacurate edward
The real D51 numbered 51 was actually scrapped after deterioration, so we could say that Spencer finally got his way. But... in my headcanon, Spencer was based on the (also) scrapped Silver Link, a silver coloured A4.
An argument on Donald and Douglas: Unlucky Tug in his Thomas Debunked series said that Donald and Douglas weren't based on the 812 class, but on the 652 class. However, the two classes do look very similar in terms of design, so people may be forgiven for calling them 812's. The last of the real 652's built was numbered 57645, with Donald being numbered 57646 (the number Sir Topham Hatt the First ordered in the story Hullo, Twins) and Douglas likely being 57647 in The Railway Series.
Donald & Douglas are based on the CR class 652 which is a subtype of the 812. This is backed up by the fact the last 652 number is No.57645 while Donald and Douglas are the fictional add-on No.57646 and No.57647 respectively. The 652's have stronger frames and a revised reversing rod shape but looks about the same as the 812's So Donald and Douglas' basis being the 812 is technically correct but also technically not
Isn't City Of Truro meant to be the real life City Of Truro? In which case, should it really be considered to be 'based on' the same class of engine? That's just a nitpick, though, and I wonder if it also applies to Stepney. Oh, and you forgot about Scruffy. Or is he basically the same as the other Troublesome Trucks?
You have a point, but I put it in there just to show what it was based on, juuuust in case anyone wanted to know And I hoejsrly forgot Scruffy existed but I think he is a 7 plank
@@camoshun1 I'm talking about a GOOD replica. One that has Thomas' face, but the build is very akin to the original LBSCR E2s. There are a lot of Thomas trains, but there are some that deviated too much from the original build; there are Thomases that have an American cuff, Thomases that have cow catchers, Thomases that are completely train engines altogether, but most are not like of similar build to the LBSCR E2.
The non-Thomas fans have no idea what we would give to see some of these in person. If I had a time machine, I’d go back and make sure at least one of every model survived.
I know I’m late, but technically all 3 of Henry’s designs survived (ironically) His old shape is a A1 and C-1 Atlantic (Both loved to preservation, with Scottsman and 251.) Then obviously the black 5
Emily is a GNR 1003 stirling single, all 53 of them were scrapped but there is one that was preserved and is now on display at the National Railway museum in York, the UK. So this means Emily is still around Gordon's brother the Flying Scotsman is the Pacific type class A1 Express tender locomotive which was built between 1948 and 1949 and it was also repainted black and served during WW2 to help transport troops and supplies, it was saved from being scrapped by Alan Pengler in 1963 it is currently on display at the National Railway museum in York, the UK. So just like Emily, the Flying Scotsman is around Date: December 24 2024
I found a closer engine that represents Percy a little more. Yeah I’m telling the truth here. This engine is located at Clark’s trading Post (or Clark’s Bears) in New Hampshire. I’ve actually seen this engine several times before. This engine is a Baldwin tank engine built by the Baldwin locomotive Works. The only difference is that this engine has three domes. Also, there’s not the only Thomas character there’s also a real life Ferdinand as well. They have all three types of gear locomotives. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPmCChzDdyzlB4Z0fDnRCjgdx6IxYFhFS?si=3I31z-qN33wjU2YZ
Characters that were actually scrapped: - Thomas - Edward debatably - James sorta? - Toby - Donald - Dennis - Norman - Molly - Flora - Old Slow Coach? Maybe? - Samson probably - Hugo - Skiff - Connor - Lexi - Phillip
Gordon was rebuilt at crew making him look the way he is but I like the fact of him being a A0 and Henry technically was experimental but the best representation of a Lner A1 and a c1 Atlantic put together is the first prototype blueprint of the A0 since many people depict him with a 4-6-2 configuration which us the A0 prototype design so I guess there is a engine that Henry's experimental design was based on
I've been in the cab of the last surviving B&O P7 no 5300 the George Washington, The P7s were actually intended for service here in New Jersey on whats now the Raritan Valley Line of NJT and was back in the day the Central Railroad Of New Jersey or CNJ and also was used by the B&O and Reading Company
James is lucky You missed frankie hurricane and the great race engines 8:05 the reason why they're is only 1 br class 28 diesel engine is because they were confirmed to have engine and starting problems with their class and one of the engines had overheated and burned the rails it was on and then it was scrapped this started the scrapping of the class 28 diesel class because of their bad fuel overheating engines. 11:08 and this is the whole point of why Norman barely appears in the cgi series and Dennis is lazy 16:11 STATUS BOULDER Damn Caitlin survived but Connor didnt
@@vaclavmacgregor2464 I agree, I would like a New build NYC Niagara (like PRR T1 Trust), but if most railfans wanted a new build hudson, I don't blame them.
I know we don't care but I'mma add some Five Nights At Smudger's 4 trains Both Stanley and Stoner are based on a Baldwin Class 10-12-D 4-6-0 pannier tank engine Smoother is based on a Dolgoch tank engine wich means he is Smudger and Rheneas brother so he preserved as well Smuke is a small tank engine wich we can see on just one camera on night 6, if we click on him, he will disappear giving access to a cut scene. He is also based on a Prince engine but with a bunker instead of a tender Jordan is also a Prince tank engine and he is one of the bully engines Gerald is a blue tender engine but with 2 tenders instead of one and he is also based on a Prince engine Both Albert and Proteus are based on a Sir Haydn engine Adam is based on a Talyllyn engine, he is one of the bully engines Daniel is based on a Midlander diesel engine and he is the last bully engine Davenger is a Waldenburg tender engine Ratchet is a prototype tank engine (I don't know his class name) Steamer is also based on a Talyllyn engine
I'll say this he's not entirely accurate to it but Henry's old shape is meant to be an Atlantic so I guess you could just put down the standard one with a curved firebox because henry was more like a mash up of that on a 4-6-2 chassie
@@giantfightingroboto ye u know its just dat u have the wrong pic fo her basis. u left max and montys in her spot. hate t be dat guy but ion make da rules i just follow em 🤷♂️
I belive edward is still alive cuz there is a k2 in the uk museum of steam trains idk my friend tolded me so edward is stil alive and getting fame plus on rare occasions i belive one still runs idk but I hope so edward is my fav character
Actually the flying scotsman appears in thomas and friends his tender appears in the model series and in his entire body including his face appears in the cgi era so just know that gordon is dead
You forgot the boat, that Percy accidentally pushes trucks all over him. Speaking of boats, could you do a vid showing real life vehicles that the characters from tugs are based off?
In one of the railway series books written by R.W.Awdry Gordon meets his brother The Flying Scotsman so that means gordon is'nt the flying scotsman that is why gordon should be labeled scrapped
I’d like to make a case for Edward.
True, Awdry describes Edward as a Furness K2, but in the stories Edward undergoes several overhauls that ultimately end up with him barely resembling what he looked like to begin with.
A closer match to the real Edward isn’t a standard K2, but actually NS 1600. This engine is not only preserved and built by the same manufacturer and works, but is practically a K2 albeit modified to operate in Holland (Where it still remains today in a railway museum).
That Makes Only Thomas and Toby The Dead Characters From The Steam Team, Because All The
E2s and J70s Were Scrapped. The J70 Replica of Toby Doesn't Count.
@@PCMan8922wait wot
I think it’s kinda intriguing how 9 of the 9Fs are preserved. And although Molly’s class is extinct, hopefully it won’t be for too much longer now.
Also funny fact, one of Porter’s siblings was turned into a replica of Thomas for a Day Out with Thomas event.
Nah
Porter's basis is THAT engine
@@yogabummyep, the one from strasburg
The engine is known as Burlington Eastern District Terminal 15 (B.E.D.T) which was purchased by Strasburg and arrived on May 9th 1998 before being rebuilt into Strasburg Thomas which still exists now although rumor or truth a supposed incident involving a test run of the rebuilt porter supposedly the eyes of the face had melted from the heat leaving 2 large holes where the eyes were which might have been why the face was revamped
Nia is based on a Kenya-Uganda Railway (KUR) ED1 class, a class of 2-6-2 tank locomotive built by Vulcan Foundry for the Kenya-Uganda Railway between 1926 and 1930. Primarily used for shunting duties, they were also used to haul branch line trains. They were later operated by the East African Railways and were reclassified as part of the EAR 11 class. One member of this class, No. 327, has been preserved
@@Egyboish nia is basically fictional because the KUR ED1s were meter gauge and nia is standard gauge
4:01 Depends...if you count the dutch NS 1600 class then has one distant cousin survived (NRS 107) and is preserved in the Nederlands Spoorwegmuseum in Utrecht. (Because both FR K2 und NS 1600 steam locomotives were built around the same time (1889-1903) and from the same builder (Sharp, Stewart and Company) and both look very similiar.
Isn't the Flying Scotsman a real character in the Thomas universe? This would mean that Gordon would be dead, since the Flying Scotsman is another character
A1 tornado 😂
See, this is what we call a technicality, as Gordon is a fictional SECOND preserved A1/A3 befire Tornado was built. As in, he is explicitly remarked as one of the last in the RWS
No Gordon is still alive. Technically when news hit sodor of Gordon's Brothers and Sisters all being scrapped, Gordon felt sad and didn't want to pull the express for a few days. So the Fat Controller asked LNER for the Flying Scotsman to visit Gordon to cheer him up. We see this in the season 1 episode Tenders. Although we only see Flying Scotsman's two tenders.
@@gamingninja5196 I was not talking about the RWS lore, but the context of this video. The guy said that Gordon would still be alive if he was a real engine because he is pretty much the same model as the Flying Scotsman, but the Flying Scotsman is already a separate character in the RWS universe and even TTE. So irl Gordon would be dead
@@gamingninja5196 and we do see his full body in CGI
"But his ass survived" omg I'm dead laughing 🤣
Yea I’m dead laughing too looking at you’re profile
"None survived today, although a tender was preserved."
Lol
Merlin is actually The King Arthur class but the more accurate class was a war experimental engine by Oliver Bulleid which has 3 funnels and can create steam to "be invisible". (All of this information is from Thomas theorist's video called Rebbeca's family tree -Explained"
Are we not mentioning that the real merlin of the king arthur class was not the one to get the experiment and it was actually sir gillamere...i might have misspelled that
@@blasterblaster1221 idk
Kenji from the CGI era is based off the 0 Series Shinkansen, which was in service on the Tokaido Shinkansen line connecting Tokyo and Osaka from 1964 when the line first opened up until they were retired in 2008. Much like Hiro's basis D51 class locomotive, the 0 Series Shinkansen has been preserved at various museums and parks across Japan. The leading vehicle of a 0 Series Shinkansen is also preserved at the National Railway Museum in York, UK, and is the only 0 Series Shinkansen that is preserved in a museum outside of Japan.
While not a TTTE character, I also figured that Enmu from Demon Slayer: Mugen Train is also worth a shoutout here. The train used in the arc is based off the JGR Class 8620 2-6-0 steam locomotive, which were built between 1914 and 1929. Of the 672 manufactured, around 20 units have been preserved. Number 8620, the first engine of the class, is currently preserved at the Ome Railway Park in Ome, Tokyo, while number 8630 is preserved in working order at the Kyoto Railway Museum in Kyoto. In 2020 and 2021, 8630 was given a special 無限 (Mugen) nameplate and a special excursion train was ran to promote the movie as well.
"Boulder is based on... a boulder 🪨" Almost spat my coffee out with laughter when you said that.
Very well done my friend. Great video 😂☺️🚂🚃
Those were Scrap Models from broken parts the crew had. I choose to believe Sir Topham Hatt would never scrap any engines, but maybe the Scrap Models could represent other scrapped engines from around the world that were brought to Sodor for what they usually use it for.
Sam is based on Virginian Railway's 2-6-6-6 AG class "Blue Ridges" built by Lima locomotive works in 1945. All of them were scrapped. None survived. However, four years before Virginian Railway bought the 2-6-6-6's, the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway bought extreme similar H8 class 2-6-6-6 locomotives known as the "Alleghenies" built by the same workshop between 1941 and 1948, only two members of the class survived today.
The Brighton Railway are probably still kicking themselves wishing they kept at least one E2 imagine the tourist revenue coming in
To be fair the real E2s weren't that useful, though it would make a good static exhibit
There are several other characters from the Christopher Awdry Railway Series books. Pip and Emma being Class 43 HSTs. Wilbert and Sixteen being Hunslet Austerity saddle tanks. Bear is a Class 35 Hymek. D199 looks like a Class 37. The Snowdon Mountain Railway locos also feature as Godred, Wilfred, Culdee and Lord Harry. The Talyllyn Railway's Tom Rolt also appears as Ivo Hugh. Ravenglass' Northern Rock stars as Jock, as well as one of their diesels as Frank. There is also Neil the Box Tank and mainline visitors Jinty and Pug, as well as Flying Scotsman. GWR autocoaches also appear as Isabel, Dulcie, Alice and Mirabel. Finally there is Bulstrode the boat. Preserved 488 Adams and SECR Ps Bluebell and Primrose also get a mention. Like City of Truro, they have no faces, though they never visit Sodor.
Stephen was the opposite of conner where his body survived but not his tender
Also for some of the rws engines jock, frank and wilbert survived
17:48-17:51 THEY TOOK THE PHRASE “Let’s save his ass” TOO LITERALLY!
One small correction regarding Henry, the photo shown next to him is actually a Standard 5. The most notable visual difference is the angle of the front of the cab - original Stanier designs had flat-fronted cabs, while their BR Standard redesigns have the front of the cab at a 45 degree angle from the side.
Thanks for that. I'm definitely more of a Thomas guy than a train guy so I don't catch these things so easily
Im sorry to say you made a small mistake.
It actually is a stanier black 5 you can check by searching up the engines number.
@@Polskaboi
You do realize that the Black 5 and Standard 5 share much of their design, right? A rebuild could have easily been done. Or do you want to try insisting that Scotsman can only ever be designated as an A1 simply because its number wasn't changed after it was rebuilt into an A3?
@@VestedUTuber it would easily be possible but it would not be worth it because they had the same power classifcation and it would have to be in br days because that was when the standard 5 was built but then diesels started to roll out so it wouldn't really be worth it (if my spelling is of im sorry english is not my native language
The main way I tell them apart is the area between the smokebox and the buffer beam. All the BR standard designs have a steep slope with steps(?) on it.
Poor Conner...But his ass shall live on!
NYC chairman Alfred E. Pearlman was determined to not have his company look old with just one steam engine remaining.
I’m glad boulder survived I was really worried about that one
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Huh
Id choose douglas to survive. If not for him Oliver, Isabel and Toad woukdn't survive so hes always gonna be the better twin.
Maybe there’s another one out there somewhere in hiding
But if not for Donald, Douglas would be scrapped and oliver, Isabel and toad would be scrapped
I’d choose Oliver to be catched in TSF
Douglas just seems more interesting, running away form being scrap and saved on from the same fate he would have
@@RicardoGaming09no because the fat controller wanted one engine and if he got one engine that being Douglas it would have been okay
Wow, It's Impressive, How Most Thomas Characters Are Based on Engines That Actually Still Exist.
None of the New York central hudsons were preserved except for a converted tender from J-1d 5313, which is preserved at the Steamtown National Historic Site in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
Status: BOULDER!
That honestly killed me 🤣
17:51 but his a** survived💀
Imagine Thomas says steamies are the best!
And he later finds out in real life that the steam trains are getting replaced
Well Audrey Said That Edward was Based On The K2 Class But Since you Said There's 2 More Types of Engines that have a Resemblance to Edward So That Would Explain Why The K2s Cabs look like James' Cab But Edward has A 2 Rectangle Windows on the Sides
I don’t doubt you’ve already gotten a comment tell you this, but Donald and Douglas are *technically* Caledonian 652s. Although they look pretty much the same as 812s. Great video btw.
Yeah I got a bit confused with that one
Its cool that the TVS Breakdown Train actually has a basis, I always just assumed that it was a freelance design made just for the show.
Edward and James are my two favorite characters, yes, it maybe sad that his basis were scrapped, but I am so proud that the NBR K class and the LNER D40 survived, but don't forget the LSWR T9 that's also preserved, it maybe slightly similar to FR K2, but see the T9's smokebox? It looks similar to Edward's, and also built in 1880's. you also forgot one Irish inside cylindered 2-6-0 Mogul that looked like James except Broad Guage is preserved, it's the Dublin and South Eastern Railway 15 and 16, only 461 (15) was preserved by Railway Preservation Society of Ireland, and I'm so proud of it.
You are right because LNER D40 LSWR T9 AND NBR K CLASS all of them are quite similar to Edward all of them survived preservation and now all of them are remained in present day museum
Yep. Other 4-4-0's similar to Edward that I wished were preserved were NER R1 class 4-4-0 (may look truly resembled Edward in the Railway series and Television series, but too big)
And the LNER D31 also known as NBR M class (the D31 looked very Accurate to Edward in the Television series (except for circled windows like Thomas'), and also built between 1884 and 1899). But we still got LSWR T9, LNER D40, and NBR K class. By
Okay, but another steam locomotive with a similar design to the Funerss K2 is called the LSWR T3, but I prefer the D40 LNER NBR K CLASS and LSWR T9 because for me it is better in my humble opinion.😊👍♥️🚂
I have same opinion too! I always preferred the LNER D40, NBR K class, and LSWR T9! 😁😁😊😊 I loved those three for Edward as well!
19:18 There’s actually quite many D51s preserved. There are 173 of them preserved in Japan.
Book Series:
- Ivo Hugh (based on Tom Rolt on Tallylyn Railway, still in service)
- Fred (based on Alf on Talyllyn Railway, still in service)
- Bear (BR Class 35 "Hymek", four in preservation)
- D199 aka "Spamcan" (BR Class 46 "Peak", three in preservation)
- Pip and Emma (BR Class 43, thirteen in preservation)
- Victoria, Helena (Furness Railway Second Class Coach, status unknown)
- Albert (Furness Railway J1 class, scrapped)
- Godred (based on Ladas on Snowdon Mountain Railway, scrapped)
- Ernest (based on Enid on Snowdon Mountain Railway, out of service but still exists)
- Wilfred (based on Wyddfa on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service)
- Culdee (based on Snowdon on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service)
- Shane Dooiney (based on Moel Siabod on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service)
- Lord Harry/No. 6/Patrick (based on Padarn (formerly Sir Harmood) on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service)
- Alaric (based on Ralph (formerly Alywin) on Snowdon Mountain Railway, withdrawn from service)
- Eric (based on Eryri on Snowdon Mountain Railway, still in service)
- Neil (Neilson 0-4-0 box tank, scrapped)
- Frank (based on Perkins on Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, still in service)
- Jock (based on Northern Rock on Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, still in service)
- Blister I and Blister II (based on Cyril on Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, still in service)
- Sigrid of Arlsedale (based on Shelagh of Eskdale on Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, still in service)
- Stanley aka TV series' "Smudger" (Baldwin Class 10-12-D, four in preservation)
Actually working on a RWS video at the moment!
actually salty is based of a real br 7 . 2991, which is somehow still in service. its current number is tops number 07007
6:55 edward thomas lol
19:18 "a few" is quite an understatement
That song at the end is so beautifully nostalgic for me. It’s from Gale of Darkness. Such a light hearted song, despite the game having a somewhat cryptic title.
Lady in the corner of the room “damn y’all got a model”
17:51 But His Ass Survived 😂
"The coffee pot engine" serves along Stephen on the Earls castle, but you forgot him
5:25 ive been to east anglian railway museum, unfortunately however, i have not seen any thomas & friends ones
in my au edward looked like a real k2 but nr 1 wich was niels brother had gone mad and bashed himself into a munitions shed edward was nearby and badly damaged the tender was replaced due to it not being anymore but only ash and thats how we have the inacurate edward
The real D51 numbered 51 was actually scrapped after deterioration, so we could say that Spencer finally got his way.
But... in my headcanon, Spencer was based on the (also) scrapped Silver Link, a silver coloured A4.
An argument on Donald and Douglas:
Unlucky Tug in his Thomas Debunked series said that Donald and Douglas weren't based on the 812 class, but on the 652 class. However, the two classes do look very similar in terms of design, so people may be forgiven for calling them 812's. The last of the real 652's built was numbered 57645, with Donald being numbered 57646 (the number Sir Topham Hatt the First ordered in the story Hullo, Twins) and Douglas likely being 57647 in The Railway Series.
Donald & Douglas are based on the CR class 652 which is a subtype of the 812. This is backed up by the fact the last 652 number is No.57645 while Donald and Douglas are the fictional add-on No.57646 and No.57647 respectively. The 652's have stronger frames and a revised reversing rod shape but looks about the same as the 812's
So Donald and Douglas' basis being the 812 is technically correct but also technically not
An American equivalent would be 0-6-0 switchers like CNJ 113 and Baldwin 26 at Steamtown
Was Madge suppose to have the same basis image as Max & Monty?
No that was a visual error. The text is right tho
Isn't City Of Truro meant to be the real life City Of Truro? In which case, should it really be considered to be 'based on' the same class of engine? That's just a nitpick, though, and I wonder if it also applies to Stepney.
Oh, and you forgot about Scruffy. Or is he basically the same as the other Troublesome Trucks?
By the way, the inclusion of Boulder was funnier at the end of the older version of this video, but still appreciated here.
You have a point, but I put it in there just to show what it was based on, juuuust in case anyone wanted to know
And I hoejsrly forgot Scruffy existed but I think he is a 7 plank
@@giantfightingroboto If only we have a replica of the LBSCR E2, the same way we got a Real-Life Toby Engine.
@@robbiewalker2831what about all the Thomas replicas
@@camoshun1 I'm talking about a GOOD replica. One that has Thomas' face, but the build is very akin to the original LBSCR E2s. There are a lot of Thomas trains, but there are some that deviated too much from the original build; there are Thomases that have an American cuff, Thomases that have cow catchers, Thomases that are completely train engines altogether, but most are not like of similar build to the LBSCR E2.
At least there’s one of Toby built on display but hopefully there’s original ones of Thomas and Edward out there somewhere that could be rebuilt
Ahhh yes a classic like Thomas rolling his eyes in circles.
“Status:Boulder” 😂
“But his ass survived” 😂😂😂
It’s a shame when an old steam engine is completely scrapped, these locomotives have a charm that modern diesel locomotives don’t have
The Fowler 3F Jinty bears a similar design resemblance to the LBSCR E2. The 3f Jintys have surviving members
The non-Thomas fans have no idea what we would give to see some of these in person. If I had a time machine, I’d go back and make sure at least one of every model survived.
I know I’m late, but technically all 3 of Henry’s designs survived (ironically)
His old shape is a A1 and C-1 Atlantic
(Both loved to preservation, with Scottsman and 251.)
Then obviously the black 5
Other facts some of the classes survive but some of the engines have real numbers
Some engines with real numbers were scrapped or preserved.
Technically the Thomas engine still exists in replica for the day out with Thomas events.
Emily is a GNR 1003 stirling single, all 53 of them were scrapped but there is one that was preserved and is now on display at the National Railway museum in York, the UK.
So this means Emily is still around
Gordon's brother the Flying Scotsman is the Pacific type class A1 Express tender locomotive which was built between 1948 and 1949 and it was also repainted black and served during WW2 to help transport troops and supplies, it was saved from being scrapped by Alan Pengler in 1963 it is currently on display at the National Railway museum in York, the UK.
So just like Emily, the Flying Scotsman is around
Date: December 24 2024
Thank you for making this.
One correction, Merlin was scrapped, yes he is a King Arthur class, but he wan and experimental engine built during the war and was later scrapped
*was an
The LNER D40 class resembles Edward while the NBR K class looks a lot like Molly, so on my watch, both Edward and Molly survived.
The name puns are insane
I found a closer engine that represents Percy a little more. Yeah I’m telling the truth here. This engine is located at Clark’s trading Post (or Clark’s Bears) in New Hampshire. I’ve actually seen this engine several times before. This engine is a Baldwin tank engine built by the Baldwin locomotive Works. The only difference is that this engine has three domes. Also, there’s not the only Thomas character there’s also a real life Ferdinand as well. They have all three types of gear locomotives.
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Characters that were actually scrapped:
- Thomas
- Edward debatably
- James sorta?
- Toby
- Donald
- Dennis
- Norman
- Molly
- Flora
- Old Slow Coach? Maybe?
- Samson probably
- Hugo
- Skiff
- Connor
- Lexi
- Phillip
It's kinda ironic that all the E2s had all been scrapped before the TV show had begun production.
Gordon was rebuilt at crew making him look the way he is but I like the fact of him being a A0 and Henry technically was experimental but the best representation of a Lner A1 and a c1 Atlantic put together is the first prototype blueprint of the A0 since many people depict him with a 4-6-2 configuration which us the A0 prototype design so I guess there is a engine that Henry's experimental design was based on
Wait, you can't be suggesting that Henry was based on Gordon.
*Crewe
Thomas has a replica at the day with Thomas event or at the starsburg grade railroad
Some of the model series characters came back in the CGI series.
Hugo is called Engine of the Future bus his basis was all scrapped lol.
In my head-canon, the boulder isn’t a anthropomorphic thing. It’s just in Rusty’s imagination.
Then explain why skarloey Rheneas and Percy interact with it
@@E2ForLife And why the Fat Controller chose to close that part of the Railway because Boulder demolished and set fire to the engine shed.
I know Molly would never survive 😭 I love molly
You forgot Hurricane and Frankie
I did but oh well
I've been in the cab of the last surviving B&O P7 no 5300 the George Washington, The P7s were actually intended for service here in New Jersey on whats now the Raritan Valley Line of NJT and was back in the day the Central Railroad Of New Jersey or CNJ and also was used by the B&O and Reading Company
Ohhh i did not see this vid I didn't know there was a part two
James is lucky
You missed frankie hurricane and the great race engines
8:05 the reason why they're is only 1 br class 28 diesel engine is because they were confirmed to have engine and starting problems with their class and one of the engines had overheated and burned the rails it was on and then it was scrapped this started the scrapping of the class 28 diesel class because of their bad fuel overheating engines.
11:08 and this is the whole point of why Norman barely appears in the cgi series and Dennis is lazy
16:11 STATUS BOULDER
Damn Caitlin survived but Connor didnt
Caitlin isn’t streamlined anymore unfortunately
15:29 thats the place where that famous e2 video was made
Thanks for fixing Bradford and Caroline
17:45 No thanks to the NYC chairman "Al Pearlman" who's opposed to the Historic Preservation, he also have the NYC Niagaras scrapped too!
Yeah and the public(railfans) also could have bought one but no.....sigh what a mistake.
@@vaclavmacgregor2464 I agree, I would like a New build NYC Niagara (like PRR T1 Trust), but if most railfans wanted a new build hudson, I don't blame them.
Well gordan was a prototype for the a1 class
You forgot Victor and Kevin
Yeah, I'm glad it was just them and not more important characters lol
Exactly
I’m a huge Bulleid Q1 enthusiast.
I know we don't care but I'mma add some Five Nights At Smudger's 4 trains
Both Stanley and Stoner are based on a Baldwin Class 10-12-D 4-6-0 pannier tank engine
Smoother is based on a Dolgoch tank engine wich means he is Smudger and Rheneas brother so he preserved as well
Smuke is a small tank engine wich we can see on just one camera on night 6, if we click on him, he will disappear giving access to a cut scene. He is also based on a Prince engine but with a bunker instead of a tender
Jordan is also a Prince tank engine and he is one of the bully engines
Gerald is a blue tender engine but with 2 tenders instead of one and he is also based on a Prince engine
Both Albert and Proteus are based on a Sir Haydn engine
Adam is based on a Talyllyn engine, he is one of the bully engines
Daniel is based on a Midlander diesel engine and he is the last bully engine
Davenger is a Waldenburg tender engine
Ratchet is a prototype tank engine (I don't know his class name)
Steamer is also based on a Talyllyn engine
How Many Diesel Locomotives Are Scrapped In Sodor?
skiff is auctual basis is on a sailboat you can still get built today
The original was destroyed and was replaced with its replica.
I'll say this he's not entirely accurate to it but Henry's old shape is meant to be an Atlantic so I guess you could just put down the standard one with a curved firebox because henry was more like a mash up of that on a 4-6-2 chassie
BoCo is actually names after his BoCo Wheel Arrangement
rosies part got fixed dis time
madge is still left hangin tho
Madge is in there, unfortunately...
@@giantfightingroboto ye u know its just dat u have the wrong pic fo her basis. u left max and montys in her spot. hate t be dat guy but ion make da rules i just follow em 🤷♂️
Oh yeah, just noticed that, whoops. Is that the only error still left in it?
i think dats about it but dont 100% me on dat i skimmed through da video fo da past 10 minutes just t check so i mightve missed sum
The boulder segment makes me laugh
I reckon Donald would be the survivor
And another thing gator is based of the columbian steam motor built by the sentinel wagon works Ltd.
I belive edward is still alive cuz there is a k2 in the uk museum of steam trains idk my friend tolded me so edward is stil alive and getting fame plus on rare occasions i belive one still runs idk but I hope so edward is my fav character
Here’s the real question the actual Thomas show models, ARE THEY ALIVE?!?
Most of them, I’m pretty sure
Castle also survived because in the photo of duck, we saw him behind duck
I think whiff is named that because he carries trash and is basically a teash engine. (Correct me if im wrong)
Actually the flying scotsman appears in thomas and friends his tender appears in the model series and in his entire body including his face appears in the cgi era so just know that gordon is dead
Daisy is based on a different railcar not the one you have shown
you know he's decicated cuz he legit includes the bloody boulder as a character
16:16 boulder
Donald and Douglas are actually based of the class 652
You forgot the boat, that Percy accidentally pushes trucks all over him. Speaking of boats, could you do a vid showing real life vehicles that the characters from tugs are based off?
You mean bulstrode?
@@Arandomczechguy
Yeah
About gordon and flying scotsman are different characters... Does that mean gordon is scrap since that preserves a1 spot goes to scotsman
In one of the railway series books written by R.W.Awdry Gordon meets his brother The Flying Scotsman so that means gordon is'nt the flying scotsman that is why gordon should be labeled scrapped
Well yes if you want to get that specific 🤓
8:59 "Brake van?" Is that "caboose" in British? British and American are two different languages that have 98% lexical similarity.
11:16 It explains why Dennis was lazy