Nothing more than this JJ - I found it useful to set the bike's base damping setting for 2 up riding in the SPORT mode (yep, the missus jumps on the back), and then set everything up as I want in 'user' mode specifically for track days where I'm mostly running street tyres. USER mode just gives you flexibility to set it up for aggressive riding on the road without the full race set up in SLICK mode.
Hey mate, thought you might like to know we ended up making a video about user mode set up, not sure if you still have a RR but here it is - th-cam.com/video/Dq7IWiutJpg/w-d-xo.html
no mate, its a controlled release as the engine will probably bog down if you just dump it, do a couple of runs and you'll get a feel for it pretty quickly
+The Bike Stig Thanks forum the reply. I've tried it a handful of times, still haven't 100% got it. I've heard many say they launch harder manually. Regardless, I'll keep practicing. Thank you
@@Sequel7 hmmm, good question, I have never tried that but to be honest, I can't think of a reason why anyone would want to do it, the goal is to get off the line fast without too many problems so 1st gear makes sense to me, cheers mate
I don't think it does mate, check out Brentuning who offer an upgrade for the model to add LC to it - brentuningmoto.com/product/2012-2014-bmw-s1000rr-launch-control-upgrade/
Question,After turning on launch control,upon taking off do i let the clutch go gradually or i could just pop the clutch? iam worried i might flip it over and sent it to the moon hahaja
haha, don't worry I've actually had that happen to me on a bike without launch control. Actually what will happen with launch control on when you drop the clutch is it will bog down. You still have to ease the clutch out so the revs are maintained. Give it a run, you'll really like what it does and it is a safer way to start than doing it without launch control. Let me know how you go :-)
@@chiaosmash7075 obviously you won't be able to do it the same way as with launch control as it controls your revs with the throttle fully open. You'll have to practice to work out how best to take off on your particular bike mate.
In the user modes guide it says that in SLICK MODE the front wheel lift detection is off - which would suggest that the bike will wheelie if you floor it from a standstill. But I am assuming that in LC mode the bike understands that it should turn front wheel lift detection on?
yeah you worked it out. Pit Limiter is activated with the same button and works while riding along in 1st gear. LC is activated in neutral, you hold it until it turns on. Wheelie control is active in LC, in fact the power delivery is reduced until you hit 3rd gear. Intervention is quite strong in 1st and 2nd gears when you launch.
you'll find the front wheel will lift slightly off the ground but that's all the LC will allow, it will control the launch until you change up into 3rd gear
Sorry mate. It's a controlled release ... if you dump it the engine revs will drop and it will bog down. You want it to maintain some revs and not get too much front wheel lift.
If you open this video - th-cam.com/video/Dq7IWiutJpg/w-d-xo.html - in the description area you'll find you can download a pdf file that tells you how the mode settings relate to DTC and wheelie control, you might find it pretty useful mate.
@@TheBikeStig Ahh okay, thank you for the quick reply :) I do not actually own a gen 3 S1000RR, but have been trying to look into the bike as much as I can before forking out the money. I know it isnt really your thing as you tend to cover more technical aspects for track usage of the bike, but do you reckon you could do a video going over the handlebar controls for the novice user for road usage and track usage? Things such as simply activating and disabling cruise control, headlight controls etc. etc., these are things I kept trying to look for earlier but was unsuccessful in finding any close up videos showing how and what to do. I understand if you feel its not your field to cover the basics in a review style of the bike like that, but I just thought it would help many out
Hey from Germany. Can you tell where i can find that golden Gopro mount like you have in your clip at minute 01.00 Is it screwed or glued? Thank you in advance
Hey Tony, you can get these little beauties through eBay, try searching for - CNC Aluminum Flat Quick Release Buckle Mount Base 3 Holes For GoPro - and you should do pretty good.
Hello The Bike Stig, do you have (made) a video about the clutch lever control during the launching of the bike? I've try and didn't succeed :( Maybe I was afraid of suddenly wheelie, or not trusting to let clutch suddenly.
I don't actually, might have to make one. The way for you to do this is to simply let it out smoothly, bike won't wheelie as it has a lot of intervention in place plus lowered power. the biggest mistake people make is they rev it and let clutch out at same time and it bogs down. You need to rev it first, then let the clutch out smoothly. Give that a try, I'd say your more likely to bog down the first time.
@@TheBikeStig Today was dry day and I've tried and failed again. Hold start button and I see 3L-cont. So 1st attempt: I let clutch easy out, from hooked to full released took around 1 sec, when I notice my front wheel feeling lighter I lift throttle(failed). I try it again, standing still and hold Start button, this time display show 1L-cont(strange and pitty), 2st attempt(I remember more details): I open throttle around 50% and waited rpm raised steadily up to 9k and hold there. I let clutch out smoothly and from hooked to full release took around 1 sec, after clutch fully released I open throttle to around 95%. I noticed front wheel lift up and I lean my body forward and keep throttle open. RPM needle touch the red-line and I lost power, I close throttle and open again, the power is back(attempt failed). Strange that bike won't shift up to 2e gear, did you have experience with this issue?
@@garryhuang9821 never have any issues like anything you described Garry. I go full throttle and don't let off, smoothly let the clutch out. Not sure what model you have but might be worth doing a google search as it doesn't sound like my experience with it all. And I've probably used it at least 100 times
That's right, don't just dump it as it will bog down. LC also controls power through the first two gears until you click into 3rd, not sure about the technical aspects of that suffice to say if you want more power between starting and 3rd, dont use LC. Give it a try.
I saw a video of a guy tried LC and hes rear wheel skids uncontrollable.. what could be the reason for that? And how can i avoid the “S skid”? I got the 2018 so im guessing the electronics should intervene to prevent that right? Im a short guy so i try to factor in every scenario that could happen. But your reply did gave me a whole lot of confidence. Thanks
@@krayzieegg7294 no idea mate, sounds like he didn't have LC turned on correctly. 2018 model LC works same as 2016, I've never had an issue with it. Give it a run, you really can't go too far wrong mate.
Sorry mate. It's a smooth and controlled release ... if you dump the clutch the engine revs will drop and it will bog down. You want it to maintain some revs and not get too much front wheel lift.
@TheBikeStig hi doc, want to find out 2 things 1. What settings or mode is good for burnout since we have front and rear brakes connected to eachother at some point, 2. What are the settings for wheelie. TIA
Does the launch control have the wheelie control activated? I have used it a couple of times, my best attempt was 0-200 in 8 secs at 2800m above sea level. But I didn't go full throttle during the first 2 or 3 seconds because I felt it was lifting the front wheel too much. Are we supposed to go full throttle on lunch control?
Yes mate, it's full throttle on launch and the launch control limits it to 9,000 rpm while you have the clutch in. Then you have to roll out the clutch smoothly. Full power comes back when you hit third gear. It will wheelie as slick mode has the least amount of intervention. Your goal is to smoothly let that clutch out so it doesn't bog down nor is too aggressive on take off, if concerned I am fairly sure that by increasing the DTC setting to it's highest (+7) you get the greatest amount wheelie intervention. If anyone else out there knows more, let us know.
I haven't seen the specs for this bike, I'd do some google/youtube research or chat with a Bmw dealer to find out more. I did a little myself and I'm not sure it does have launch control, check this out - www.s1000r.co.uk/index.php?topic=1805.0
No idea, more emission control on the later models. The 2015/2016 was the best model in terms of minimum emission control. Time for a better exhaust and proper tune I reckon.
Something isn’t set right on my 2017 rr I think. I get into launch mode and launch it but the front end still lifts high in the air preventing me from getting off the line fast. It also wants to lift in 2nd and 3rd… Any recommendations on suspension settings or anything I could be missing? Bone stock 2017 rr premium!
I'm not sure what that would be and Im not a technical expert of problems. I do know the front end will lift but not that far when I launch mine using LC. What I would do is try doing a standing start in sport or race mode and see if you get the same front end lifting, I know those modes have much more wheelie control than race (or slick which has none). At least that gives you an indication if you have a wheelie control problem. Next step is to talk to someone who knows the technical workings of it at BMW. Maybe get some footage from GoPro or something so you can shown them. Hope that helps mate.
Sounds like you have the engine turned off, you need to start the bike first and then press the start button and hold it ... sounds weird but it won't engage the starter motor while the engine is running
Question I have the 2018 S1000RR and while I am the track the quick shifter poks up and down big time through the gears and I don't know why ANY ADVISE? thank you
Not sure what you mean by "poks up and down" mate. The only problem I've experienced is a resistance to change down sometimes but I sense that is more of an issue with my foot having some pressure on the gear lever than an issue with the system. I know the later the model the smoother / better the quick shift system is. I'd advise asking somebody technically proficient on quick shift systems about this. Sorry I can't help.
That launch is horrible! I did much better in race mode. Hold engine around 11,000RPM and let the clutch do the work. I ran 9.69 on my 2016 factory stock right off the show room floor RR. These bikes are straight up retarded fast! Nothing will touch this bike with the right rider in the saddle.
Thanks mate, lucky I didn't say I was any good at it :-) - the 2015/2016 models are brilliant, gotta say I have been disappointed with the latest model which feels slower after all of the Euro 4 emission changes.
Didn't mean to sound harsh lol. I just think the launch mode sucks vs race mode or even full analog (no electronics). I agree about 2017+ model, they went back to that giant cat in the exhaust. Probably had issues meeting European and US EPA regulations. Ride on!
that's quick I just brought this bike 18 model second hand 12000 km I'm not happy with how it is so far going slow it's a bit gerkey with clutch out going slow in 1st gear .. put it in neutral at 2 thousand revs the needle is bouncing up and down a few mm ..it's not just a constant rev ..is this normal can't see how. . I still have my hayabusa 997 seconds stock 08 mod. .and is smooth at 2000revs. 1500 revs.
@@TheBikeStig I've just brought the 18 model with 12000km was rideing home in rain in rain mode and noticed it was a little gerkey in 1st and second gear in thick trafic wasn't smooth at all ..in neutral if I rev it to 2000 rpm the needle jumps around a little not just a constant rev is this normal and has a ticking sound at low revs as well ..sounds like a fuel injection tick or as a kid put a playing card on forks of pushbike gets a sound from spokes. ??? and has clutch chatter in neutral with clutch out .my huski fc 450 is bad for that.
@@petermoygannon698 that sounds abnormal mate, I'd be getting it checked out ... I'm not an expert but my thoughts immediately go to either a fuelling issue or mixture is way off. I do know the Euro 4 level emission control on this model changed things quite a bit. Sorry I can't be of help mate.
Fuck me, thank you for explaining how to launch it! Full throttle and feather the clutch. Man that’s some trusting the electronics.
Nice break down, very simple way to explain it. I just installed my chip for the SLICK and USER mode. Any tips on setting up USER mode?
Nothing more than this JJ - I found it useful to set the bike's base damping setting for 2 up riding in the SPORT mode (yep, the missus jumps on the back), and then set everything up as I want in 'user' mode specifically for track days where I'm mostly running street tyres. USER mode just gives you flexibility to set it up for aggressive riding on the road without the full race set up in SLICK mode.
Hey mate, thought you might like to know we ended up making a video about user mode set up, not sure if you still have a RR but here it is - th-cam.com/video/Dq7IWiutJpg/w-d-xo.html
Instablaster...
So no dumping the clutch correct? Just feathering it?
I don't have the confidence in the electronics to dump the clutch.
no mate, its a controlled release as the engine will probably bog down if you just dump it, do a couple of runs and you'll get a feel for it pretty quickly
+The Bike Stig Thanks forum the reply. I've tried it a handful of times, still haven't 100% got it. I've heard many say they launch harder manually.
Regardless, I'll keep practicing. Thank you
Tnx man for video, exactly what I needed to know 😎
cheers mate, glad I could be of help
Man you catch that r1 so fast that's y I love my s1000rr
With launch control do you fully release the clutch and the bike does everything or you have to feed the clutch so it wont wheelie
You still have to feed it out Marcos, if you let it out too fast the engine will still bog down.
Lol drop the clutch on any bike and see what happens. Hopefully it has wheelie control engaged
@@TheBikeStig can it let u launch in 2nd gear?
@@Sequel7 hmmm, good question, I have never tried that but to be honest, I can't think of a reason why anyone would want to do it, the goal is to get off the line fast without too many problems so 1st gear makes sense to me, cheers mate
@@Sequel7 my first hard lesson bikes was doing this back in the 70s ... no wheelie control back then
Well explanation ...👍👍🔥
thanks mate
I got the 2013 modell with the stick for slick. Does this work on mine?? Didnt try yet
I don't think it does mate, check out Brentuning who offer an upgrade for the model to add LC to it - brentuningmoto.com/product/2012-2014-bmw-s1000rr-launch-control-upgrade/
Question,After turning on launch control,upon taking off do i let the clutch go gradually or i could just pop the clutch? iam worried i might flip it over and sent it to the moon hahaja
haha, don't worry I've actually had that happen to me on a bike without launch control. Actually what will happen with launch control on when you drop the clutch is it will bog down. You still have to ease the clutch out so the revs are maintained. Give it a run, you'll really like what it does and it is a safer way to start than doing it without launch control. Let me know how you go :-)
@@TheBikeStig truee THANK U SIR
@@TheBikeStig Can I do this on a bike that without launch control mode ?
Then how many steps I should follow ?
@@chiaosmash7075 obviously you won't be able to do it the same way as with launch control as it controls your revs with the throttle fully open. You'll have to practice to work out how best to take off on your particular bike mate.
@@TheBikeStig Ok I think I got it
Thanks for ur receive !
Question: does it lc come on 2010 models also?
I've no idea mate, I owned a 2010 model but cant remember ... brain is getting old lol. Im sure there's some info about this through google search.
The light does not come on at all even when bike is on and we on slick
I have same issue
In the user modes guide it says that in SLICK MODE the front wheel lift detection is off - which would suggest that the bike will wheelie if you floor it from a standstill. But I am assuming that in LC mode the bike understands that it should turn front wheel lift detection on?
i could give you the answer if you could help me actually getting to use LC, all it says is "Pit-Limiter" when i hold the starter button..
oh i think you can only turn it on in NEUTRAL?
its works perfectly in slick mode, only time it can't understand is when you turn dtc completely off with the button then it will straight up wheelie.
@@tasan1685 hah! Neutral, select slick mode and then hold the starter button down until it reads LC
yeah you worked it out. Pit Limiter is activated with the same button and works while riding along in 1st gear. LC is activated in neutral, you hold it until it turns on. Wheelie control is active in LC, in fact the power delivery is reduced until you hit 3rd gear. Intervention is quite strong in 1st and 2nd gears when you launch.
In launch control will the bike still lift the front tyre of the ground or will the electronics try sort that out ?
you'll find the front wheel will lift slightly off the ground but that's all the LC will allow, it will control the launch until you change up into 3rd gear
Thks for the reply
terrible you didn't say how to operate the clutch. do you dump it? do you slowly release it? if you dump it will the motorcycle wheelie? or just die
Sorry mate. It's a controlled release ... if you dump it the engine revs will drop and it will bog down. You want it to maintain some revs and not get too much front wheel lift.
is it in slick mode anti wheelie control or you control this?
If you open this video - th-cam.com/video/Dq7IWiutJpg/w-d-xo.html - in the description area you'll find you can download a pdf file that tells you how the mode settings relate to DTC and wheelie control, you might find it pretty useful mate.
If you've turned on slick mode but no longer want to use it, how do you disable it?
press the MODE button on the right handle bar controller and select the mode you do want. You don't disable, you simply choose another mode.
@@TheBikeStig Ahh okay, thank you for the quick reply :)
I do not actually own a gen 3 S1000RR, but have been trying to look into the bike as much as I can before forking out the money.
I know it isnt really your thing as you tend to cover more technical aspects for track usage of the bike, but do you reckon you could do a video going over the handlebar controls for the novice user for road usage and track usage? Things such as simply activating and disabling cruise control, headlight controls etc. etc., these are things I kept trying to look for earlier but was unsuccessful in finding any close up videos showing how and what to do. I understand if you feel its not your field to cover the basics in a review style of the bike like that, but I just thought it would help many out
@@desantos1234 I like your suggestion mate, I could actually do a video like that quite easily, stay tuned
@@TheBikeStig awesome! I very much look forward to it! :)
Hey from Germany.
Can you tell where i can find that golden Gopro mount like you have in your clip at minute 01.00
Is it screwed or glued?
Thank you in advance
Hey Tony, you can get these little beauties through eBay, try searching for - CNC Aluminum Flat Quick Release Buckle Mount Base 3 Holes For GoPro - and you should do pretty good.
got it.....thank you verry much!
tony pruitt you're welcome mate
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Hello The Bike Stig, do you have (made) a video about the clutch lever control during the launching of the bike? I've try and didn't succeed :( Maybe I was afraid of suddenly wheelie, or not trusting to let clutch suddenly.
I don't actually, might have to make one. The way for you to do this is to simply let it out smoothly, bike won't wheelie as it has a lot of intervention in place plus lowered power. the biggest mistake people make is they rev it and let clutch out at same time and it bogs down. You need to rev it first, then let the clutch out smoothly. Give that a try, I'd say your more likely to bog down the first time.
@@TheBikeStig won't wheelie, that gives me a lots confidence :) I'll practice upcoming weekend. Thanks for your reply
@@garryhuang9821 enjoy, let me know how you go.
@@TheBikeStig Today was dry day and I've tried and failed again. Hold start button and I see 3L-cont. So 1st attempt: I let clutch easy out, from hooked to full released took around 1 sec, when I notice my front wheel feeling lighter I lift throttle(failed). I try it again, standing still and hold Start button, this time display show 1L-cont(strange and pitty), 2st attempt(I remember more details): I open throttle around 50% and waited rpm raised steadily up to 9k and hold there. I let clutch out smoothly and from hooked to full release took around 1 sec, after clutch fully released I open throttle to around 95%. I noticed front wheel lift up and I lean my body forward and keep throttle open. RPM needle touch the red-line and I lost power, I close throttle and open again, the power is back(attempt failed). Strange that bike won't shift up to 2e gear, did you have experience with this issue?
@@garryhuang9821 never have any issues like anything you described Garry. I go full throttle and don't let off, smoothly let the clutch out. Not sure what model you have but might be worth doing a google search as it doesn't sound like my experience with it all. And I've probably used it at least 100 times
So you dont just dump the clutch? So what else does LC controls apart from maintaining 9k rev.
That's right, don't just dump it as it will bog down. LC also controls power through the first two gears until you click into 3rd, not sure about the technical aspects of that suffice to say if you want more power between starting and 3rd, dont use LC. Give it a try.
I saw a video of a guy tried LC and hes rear wheel skids uncontrollable.. what could be the reason for that? And how can i avoid the “S skid”? I got the 2018 so im guessing the electronics should intervene to prevent that right? Im a short guy so i try to factor in every scenario that could happen. But your reply did gave me a whole lot of confidence. Thanks
@@krayzieegg7294 no idea mate, sounds like he didn't have LC turned on correctly. 2018 model LC works same as 2016, I've never had an issue with it. Give it a run, you really can't go too far wrong mate.
The Bike Stig ill give it a shot one of these days. Thanks mate. Great video by the way. Keep up the good work
But i dont know how you operate cluth.... please show how do this....
Sorry mate. It's a smooth and controlled release ... if you dump the clutch the engine revs will drop and it will bog down. You want it to maintain some revs and not get too much front wheel lift.
Do you just drop the clutch or do you gently release it?
Easy out with the clutch otherwise it will bog the engine down, give it a run
@TheBikeStig hi doc, want to find out 2 things
1. What settings or mode is good for burnout since we have front and rear brakes connected to eachother at some point,
2. What are the settings for wheelie.
TIA
Do 2011 s1000rr have launch control?
Datbikeguy Views no .. 2015 and up
Does the launch control have the wheelie control activated? I have used it a couple of times, my best attempt was 0-200 in 8 secs at 2800m above sea level. But I didn't go full throttle during the first 2 or 3 seconds because I felt it was lifting the front wheel too much. Are we supposed to go full throttle on lunch control?
Yes mate, it's full throttle on launch and the launch control limits it to 9,000 rpm while you have the clutch in. Then you have to roll out the clutch smoothly. Full power comes back when you hit third gear. It will wheelie as slick mode has the least amount of intervention. Your goal is to smoothly let that clutch out so it doesn't bog down nor is too aggressive on take off, if concerned I am fairly sure that by increasing the DTC setting to it's highest (+7) you get the greatest amount wheelie intervention. If anyone else out there knows more, let us know.
Any updates on this?
Keen to hit willowbank shortly on my 2015 but I don’t want to flip it backwards 😂😂😂
i got s1000r it comes with launch control, but when i rev it goes over 9k
I haven't seen the specs for this bike, I'd do some google/youtube research or chat with a Bmw dealer to find out more. I did a little myself and I'm not sure it does have launch control, check this out - www.s1000r.co.uk/index.php?topic=1805.0
i have BMW s1000rr 2018 Max speed 280 km why ??
No idea, more emission control on the later models. The 2015/2016 was the best model in terms of minimum emission control. Time for a better exhaust and proper tune I reckon.
Something isn’t set right on my 2017 rr I think. I get into launch mode and launch it but the front end still lifts high in the air preventing me from getting off the line fast. It also wants to lift in 2nd and 3rd… Any recommendations on suspension settings or anything I could be missing? Bone stock 2017 rr premium!
I'm not sure what that would be and Im not a technical expert of problems. I do know the front end will lift but not that far when I launch mine using LC. What I would do is try doing a standing start in sport or race mode and see if you get the same front end lifting, I know those modes have much more wheelie control than race (or slick which has none). At least that gives you an indication if you have a wheelie control problem. Next step is to talk to someone who knows the technical workings of it at BMW. Maybe get some footage from GoPro or something so you can shown them. Hope that helps mate.
I tried it on slick but when I press the start button to hold the bike starts... please what could I be doing incorrect.
Sounds like you have the engine turned off, you need to start the bike first and then press the start button and hold it ... sounds weird but it won't engage the starter motor while the engine is running
Question I have the 2018 S1000RR and while I am the track the quick shifter poks up and down big time through the gears and I don't know why ANY ADVISE? thank you
Not sure what you mean by "poks up and down" mate. The only problem I've experienced is a resistance to change down sometimes but I sense that is more of an issue with my foot having some pressure on the gear lever than an issue with the system. I know the later the model the smoother / better the quick shift system is. I'd advise asking somebody technically proficient on quick shift systems about this. Sorry I can't help.
Não sei porquê estou vendo o vídeo já que não tenho uma S1000🤣🤣
I think you better get one :-)
That launch is horrible! I did much better in race mode. Hold engine around 11,000RPM and let the clutch do the work. I ran 9.69 on my 2016 factory stock right off the show room floor RR. These bikes are straight up retarded fast! Nothing will touch this bike with the right rider in the saddle.
Thanks mate, lucky I didn't say I was any good at it :-) - the 2015/2016 models are brilliant, gotta say I have been disappointed with the latest model which feels slower after all of the Euro 4 emission changes.
Didn't mean to sound harsh lol. I just think the launch mode sucks vs race mode or even full analog (no electronics). I agree about 2017+ model, they went back to that giant cat in the exhaust. Probably had issues meeting European and US EPA regulations. Ride on!
that's quick I just brought this bike 18 model second hand 12000 km I'm not happy with how it is so far going slow it's a bit gerkey with clutch out going slow in 1st gear .. put it in neutral at 2 thousand revs the needle is bouncing up and down a few mm ..it's not just a constant rev ..is this normal can't see how. . I still have my hayabusa 997 seconds stock 08 mod. .and is smooth at 2000revs. 1500 revs.
@@TheBikeStig I've just brought the 18 model with 12000km was rideing home in rain in rain mode and noticed it was a little gerkey in 1st and second gear in thick trafic wasn't smooth at all ..in neutral if I rev it to 2000 rpm the needle jumps around a little not just a constant rev is this normal and has a ticking sound at low revs as well ..sounds like a fuel injection tick or as a kid put a playing card on forks of pushbike gets a sound from spokes. ??? and has clutch chatter in neutral with clutch out .my huski fc 450 is bad for that.
@@petermoygannon698 that sounds abnormal mate, I'd be getting it checked out ... I'm not an expert but my thoughts immediately go to either a fuelling issue or mixture is way off. I do know the Euro 4 level emission control on this model changed things quite a bit. Sorry I can't be of help mate.
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