"I don’t believe I was close to landing that role. The only actor who was right for that part at that time, in my estimation, was Christian Bale, and he absolutely smashed it. So, for me, it was just an experience, and then it turned into something else. It turned into that character, Scarecrow, and it turned into a working relationship with Chris. So, I think back very, very fondly on that time, but I never, ever, ever considered myself Bruce Wayne material." - Cillian Murphy
Nolan said it: "You cannot give a normal performance, you cannot give an ordinary performance, you had to project massive energy trough this costume in order to not quiestion the costume". Christian Bale understood that to perfection
May have gone overboard though... There's a reason people call his voice the "throat cancer" voice 😅 Pattinson exudes more of a Batman ora than Bale IMHO. His Batman is just calm and rarely speaks, and it's that calmness and ambiguity that can make him seem more terrifying in the eyes of his opponents. Secretly, but not so secretly, he's just some messed up guy. 😅 But hey, different filmmakers with different vision, each Batman worked well in their respective films.
@@samf.s.7731 He's a detective before he's a fighter, he's always trying to look for clues and to see who's the one behind all the chaos. He doesn't even know what Crane's play is until he realizes that Crane was just a pawn in a bigger guys schemes. IN that being Ra's Al Ghoul. Also, the original Bale Batman voice is supposed to be just what we heard here, but Nolan didn't think it was quite menacing enough. So, he decided to alter it a bit in post. Christian wasn't too happy at first that he wasn't told. I imagine he may have let Nolan hear what he thought about it.
The persona is almost the same. Both hide who they truly are. A dark version of themselves. Bale just tapped into that persona which he already practiced.
@@haydencepeda9298 you're right. Cillian Murphy looks more like teenager than adult when Bruce Wayne is a grown-up man. His performence with Scarecrow is freaking amazing tho, the character suits him perfectly👌🏻
@@eddiegodoy5120 What should a Billionaire Playboy.shoukd be look like? I think like Cillian Murphy was too young looking maybe as a Young Batman He would be a perfect role for that now
Yesss. I fucken laughed when he said that. He would be good if he was playing Batman in the 50’s or something with those old school gangsters that say, “listen here see”, and that kinda shit.
Nolan: sorry Murphy, we decided Bale will be batman. Murphy: aw thats too bad, thanks for the opportunity tho. Nolan: well I was gonna ask you this... how do you feel about playing the villain? Murphy: I'm listening....
People still don’t understand how this trilogy change superhero movies forever because after this even action stars had a hard time getting work because the performances in this series was so phenomenal
@@peanutbutterrobot did you see the scene of him asking bane where the trigger was? It was literally like watching a man with a severe mental illness have an episode.
I believe they’re tentativeness was due to a lack of insecurity on how to approach established characters while making it their own. MCU/DC acting is by far the hardest to pull off.
Apart from X Men and Spider-Man, the superhero genre (especially DC) was in a complete mess due to the 90s Batman films. After the extremely campy and over the top movies with their Bat Credit Cards, nipples and neon colored visuals most actors in 2003 would’ve been like ‘nah, I’ll pass’.
@@3boodae749 That's exactly what they said. Look up a recent interview with Michael Keaton and he explicitly says that he WISHED he had an opportunity to play the kind of Batman role that Christopher Nolan devised for Christian Bale. His reticence to continue the role of Batman after Tim Burton's second film was precisely because it turned campy and silly in order for the studio to stake deals with toy companies to sell merchandise, but it all backfired because the movies were so terrible they practically killed the superhero genre for an entire generation.
There's a lesson here. Cillian Murphy screen tested for Batman and didn't get it. Disappointment. End of the road. Nope. Because he gave that screen test 100% and they liked what he did, he was offered the role of Scarecrow, becoming not only one of the few supporting actors to return for all three Batman movies, but also coming second only to Michael Caine for the most appearances in individual Nolan films (Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Inception, The Dark Knight Rises, and Dunkirk).
@@rajarshisantra8203 Those are still phenomenal credits to his name and he got paid a lot. Now he's in Peaky Blinders and remains one of the most highly sought actors in the industry. Man gave it his all and succeeded.
Cillian Murphy is a really great actor. But he looked a bit too young for the role at the time. But with his look in the Peaky Blinders he would be an amazing Batman. He has that dark soul inside him.
I personally feel like a younger faced Batman actually works really well in the context of the film, being that its supposed to be the early ventures of Batman.
my only problem is that his voice doesn't provide that fear to the criminals as Batman. He was skinny at the time although a great actor as well. Bale was perfect for Nolan's vision of his Batman.
Amy Adams was never in The Franchise. She was in MoS, BvS and Justice League. You're talkin' about Katie Holmes. They didn't really turn her down either, it was a mutual understanding due to Schedule Conflict. Totally amicable.
He hates Hollywood in other words a proper actor that cares about his craft. Those award shows are geared to those in Hollywood he doesn’t fit the bill.
@@djr6839 I think it kind of depends on how you define "A-list." Murphy isn't a DiCaprio by any stretch but he's been front man of a super popular tv show for a decade and I bet he can afford to be picky with his projects. He's got a lead in the next Nolan movie for goodness sakes. Maybe he's a B+ list guy.
Yeah but he is an iconic Scarecrow... Had there been a night wing movie afterwards; a scarecrow movie would’ve definitely been in the books...had Nolan continued the Batman verse movies! Actually, thought Cillian Murphy’s Scarecrow appeared only in Begins and Dark Knight Rises, Scarecrow’s presence was pretty impactful along Nolan’s Batman Trilogy!
You really see how much care and effort goes into these huge movies. Such a long and thoughtful process, especially since this character means so much to so many people, and the potential for the studio to make so much money you really see how important success is for them.
Cillian Murphy is such an underrated actor. I'm glad he's finally getting his big starring moment with Oppenheimer. And, as great in the role as Christian Bale was, I think Cillian Murphy would have been a great Batman as well.
Thats what i was thinking. Cillian was amazing in those shots as Batman but was underwhelming as Bruce Wayne. And that first guy they showed was pretty good as bruce wayne
@@ArchangelExile Ghostbusters never had an all female leading cast but- unfortunately we got one back in 2016. Things change as they often do.😢 Christian bale is the best Batman since Michael Keaton, agree to disagree.
Cillian was PERFECT for the Scarecrow role. He has that ice cold stare that unsettles you. I don't know if it's on purpose or not but it scares the hell outta me. He's perfect for any serial killer role. Not that I wanna typecast the guy haha 😅
@@trissi4468 he was good in the movie red eye, he goes from charming to serial killer in a breath, personally I don't like Christian Bale as batman plus every time he says the words I'm batman I die a little more inside, I preferred Michael Keston, wasn't keen on Clooney, Affleck and Kilmer and as far as the new movie goes I ended up turning it off and as for actors and the accents they attempt to pull off are concerned there are 2 in Got...Liam Cuningham and the bald chap who plays the lord with the posh voice...both men are Irish, i myself was brought up watching the beverly hillbilly's and for years spoke like a backward, inbred, deep south moonshine swilling cattle f-cker so i do understand 🍻🍺♠️🍀😜
I think he could of done better than Bale as Batman if Nolan chose him, but the Bruce Wayne part of his audition looks like it was probably very bad and I understand Nolan turning him down. He looked too skinny and that bad haircut makes him look about 17 lol.
@@schmeetsonbeetson7168 I mean, Bale weighed around 125 pounds (~57 kg) for his role in The Machinist (2004), then regained weight to around 220 pounds (~100 kg) in 2005 just in time for Batman Begins. I'll give a 100 for that.
thats interesting because i didnt really notice anything in particular when that clip played but lots of people are commenting on how good it was. on second thoughts i definitely like it more than bale's voice which i think sounds dumb and ruined a lot of the movie for me. dunno why they didnt go all out and use a digital effect on his voice and pretend there is some sort of high tech voice changer implanted in his throat that he can turn on whenever he is batman
I think Cillian Murphy definately needs to be in a Bond film, either as MI5 head, or sortof a double-agent between them & Spectre. It really is a crime that he has'nt been in that particuler cinematic-universe as of yet. First became aware of him in 'Sunshine' & even to this day am completely amazed by how effortlessly he carried that entire film.
@@LedosKell True, Murphy would be viewed (by many) as not nearly as 'physical' as Craig...and that being the case, he would be best-cast as yet-another 'untouchable' type of arch-nemesis...which is easily done, considering how many (in the entire Bond-franchise) never managed to throw a single punch, before being neutralized. It's been done, it can be done again & again, ad-nausem...because they (the 'Powers that Be') KNOW that they already have a fan-base of people who WILL pay to go see the newest Bond-film, regardless of whatever the film-critics will say about it...myself included.
Imagine if Tom hardy became the next James Bond. Having him an Cillian would be perfect, IMO there a top 3 actor duo right now they are amazing on screen together
Heath Ledger gets a lot of attention for his role as the joker (rightfully so, it was absolutely brilliant) but props to christian bale for understanding and becoming this character. He came up with the voice thing himself, according to this.
What’s crazy is a lot of actors who where offered the role turned it down due to having to live up to the standards of the joker from the previous Batman now Heath is the undisputed bet joker
Ledger came up with his own make up and persona of The Joker. And this was the guy from 10 Things I Hate About You. I would say it is just as impressive, if not more.
Cillian’s batman was definitely more like the animated series. We are used to seeing him sounding mature, neutral and methodical. Christian’s acting and voice is way more aggressive than that.
Murphy would be perfect for Batman now. He buffed up since, he has the grave voice, you don't have to mimick it for the role and as Tommy Shelby he has shown he can play a complicated shades of grey character.
I think he should play Scarecrow again. Not the uninteresting side-character Scarecrow from the Nolan Triology, I mean a full on psycho Scarecrow, who's the terryfing main villain.
What I like most about this trilogy is the fact that it's so relatable! It's so realistic and the closest thing you'll find to "if there was a billionaire that wanted to fight crime and be a hero"...this would be it! Christopher Nolan really had a game changer here! Very different to any other Marvel/DC movie!
It’s really interesting to see them mention that many big actors didn’t want to get involved with superhero movies back then. They’re so common and popular now thanks to stuff like the MCU and this Batman trilogy itself that it seems like nearly every big actor has played in at least one.
It's also not entirely true. I thought the same and thought yea that was true not many good actors did want to get involved but then I remembered the X-Men films which had patrick stewart, Ian McKellen, Halle Berry and Hugh Jackman (Hugh wasnt really so big back in 2000s so id barely count him) from the get go who are all really big names and that film came out in 2000 and batman begins didnt come out til 2005 its a bit of a yea i guess but also no not really.
Cristian Castillo, it’s somewhat a shame Nolan didn’t have a clear idea of what he wanted out of the characterization of Batman. His direction could have helped Bailey’s performance.
Cillian Murphy is an awesome actor and clearly plays Crane extremely well. He did not look good as Batman at all in my opinion. Not his acting, just his overall face doesn’t appear intimidating. Bailey was by far the worst. He would have been an okay Bruce Wayne, but an atrocious Batman
@@Kaliyumanshum23 It's not his youth, it's his softness. Bale has an edge to him, and there's a visible air of stress across the tone of his gesticulations, as if he has a hidden anger brimming to get out. Cillian lacks the dark spot in his soul that channels an unspoken anger, thus making him seem more "creepy" than menacing in his portrayal of Batman.
@Boris Karloff I’ve seen Peaky Blinders and he’s awesome in it. But I still don’t think he can pull off Batman. He just doesn’t have that face for it to be put behind the cowl.
@Boris Karloff it’s also his voice. Nothing about Murphy comes off as Batman. I could see him being a decent Bruce Wayne, but that’s all. I would choose him over Iain Glen any day though
Similar vibes for Tom Hiddleston being originally auditioned for role of Thor then later chosen for Loki which he nailed it! Also Sebastian Stan for Captain America then later chosen for Winter Soldier which he nailed it!
Incredible how they came to play and absolutely nail the roles of the counterparts/antagonists of the characters they originally auditioned for... Thor × Loki , Cap × Bucky , Bruce Wayne × Scarecrow
@@gomaniz even if that was the case, which it isn't, I think it is obvious that Batman needed a different voice so people wouldn't know that Bruce Wayne is Batman
Actually, anyone who read the comics and watched TAS would know the way Batman’s speech is written, is very different to Bruce Wayne’s. Bale probably did his homework, since he’s a method actor, and got it right where the rest got it wrong
He doesn't thou if anything they got it backwards, batman is his real persona and Bruce is the act so he should have a pretend playboy voice for bruce in public.
I think the difference here is that most of the actors never truly 'changed' their voice, they just lowered it a bit and used a different tone. Keaton still sounded like Keaton, Kilmer still sounded like Kilmer, and Clooney wasn't even trying. Even Kevin Conroy's voice is too unique to have a dramatic distinction between Bruce/Batman. It was just accepted as a 'Cark Kent with glasses' situation and suspend a little disbelief. What Christian did was completely change his voice to where it is unrecognizable from his own, and much more aggressive. Most actors can't do this simply from not having the vocal flexibility.
Begins was always my favourite of the trilogy, I thought the way they explained how he became batman, made it seem so believable and hearing Nolan liken batman to the alien was a stroke of genius, and comes across strongly in the movie, particularly when batman is interrogating Crane after hes given him the fear toxin and we get to see his fear of what the batman is, personified as a demonic entity, its brilliant.
Brandon Brooks sucks for her the dark knight sequels after BB was one of the best movies in cinematic history! I haven’t seen her in recent movies in years let alone popular ones! She a has been now
@zm534 the only reason I am communicating in English is because the globalized(racist and controlled) world only understand english.I give a dam about my grammatical mistakes.
Cillian Murphy's Batman voice was spot on. However I feel like it was the right thing by not doing the role of Batman and went on to be the SCARECROW. He took the character to a next level. 👌
I know its 10 some years old, but as a simple fan of movies, comics, and Batman. Christopher Nolan did an absolutely phenomenal job of reimagining and bringing him to life. My hat is off to him, and Christian Bale as well.
@@gaboaaa23 his lips were too pretty and so were his cheekbones, he looked too feminine at the time but now that he’s aged, I think he would pull off a great Batman
Before all the Marvel craze and the special effects superhero blockbusters, there was The Dark Knight Trilogy! This isn’t like any other superhero movie!
I genuinely love Cillian’s Batman voice, sounds a lot more old school Batman, and would actually have taken it any day over Christian’s annihilated vocal chords.
This video proves that someone can be immensely talented, can deliver a great performance (murphy) yet the role goes to someone who are just perfect for the role (bale).
Cillian Murphy would’ve been a fantastic choice imo. The guy has some serious ability. What a different world that would’ve been to have seen Cillian and Heath against eachother in the iconic roles and possibly Bale as Scarecrow.
Every single one of the music pieces played in this video make me feel a completely different emotion. I never hear music from a Batman movie and don’t feel something. 1:31 - undeniable romance and a feeling of longing. 3:38 - relief and temporary peace. 4:59 - focus and controlled rage energy.
It's funny how things work out. Cillian didn't get the role of Batman, but Christopher Nolan obviously saw something in him to give him Scarecrow along with lots of other roles, resulting in Cillian winning the best actor Oscar. Well deserved
im stuck as seeing him as scarecrow forever now. I mean come on, cillian murphy didnt get enough screentime as scarecrow. he did a wonderful job just portraying how actually insane jonathan crane was. he was good at acting with the eyes. that one scene where falcone is talking to him you can see something in his eyes just changes, and he's no longer doctor crane but he is now scarecrow.
I think Cillian would have been really good. He's got a tortured look about him as Bruce Wayne that just looks right. You can tell he's wearing the skin mask of a billionaire and is himself in the batsuit.
@@countervolition I see what you mean by that. Cillian is a great actor ofc but his demeanor the way he's acting in the clip is more fitting as a villian than Bruce Wayne
Perhaps. Them studios seem like they even consider the actor's name, not only their performance... Eg. Cillian Murphy the Murph As apposed to CRISTIAN ... BALE IDK i tend to think of that sort of thing.
That’s an honor and proud 🥹; Christian Bale casting using Val Kilmer’s Sonar Batsuit in Batman Forever. Cillian Murphy looks like a son of Michael Keaton.
2 things... i love they are using an old batman suit for the screen tests.... and i would love to see Cillian voice batman in an animated movie or series
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“That was pretty good. Let’s see Paul Allen’s screen test now.”
Bruh 😂😂😂
😂😂😂👍🏻
Bruce Wayne: Jaycee has mistaken me for this dickhead Patrick Bateman...
although I have a slightly better haircut.
Very nice. Let’s see Paul Allen’s comment.
@@tarnishedpose Patrick Batman
After getting rejected from the role Cillian Murphy took the role of Thomas Shelby and smoked thirty cigarettes a day to train his Batman voice.
😂😂😂
He got an offer for Scarecrow
Just 30? Thomas would smoke 3cartons
@Boris Karloff by order of the peaky fookin blinders
lol dude stop stealing comment🤮
Cillian Murphy really deserved more screen time in Batman Begins. His Dr. Crane/Scarecrow was amazingly terrifying.
Death then...
@@sickofthelies1627by exhile
@@fautless 🙂ty
hes had parts in all three so at least he has that
@@yellofury The two sequels were more like cameos they were so short
Cillian lost it because of those lips, they were just too damn beautiful for batman 🤣
That is so true
I can't argue against that
Maybe he was considered too short?
I can’t! that’s so funny true. This has to be a meme
Explain Val Kilmer then
Cillians voice as Batman is perfection. Shame that his Bruce Wayne really looks like a serial killer lol
ditto XD
Kinda funny because Bale is infamous for playing Patrick Bateman
@@RassilonProductions bale is pretty versatile
@@TheTriangle444 tbh cillian murphy seems quite versatile too
Hahahaha love the guy but true though
"I don’t believe I was close to landing that role. The only actor who was right for that part at that time, in my estimation, was Christian Bale, and he absolutely smashed it. So, for me, it was just an experience, and then it turned into something else. It turned into that character, Scarecrow, and it turned into a working relationship with Chris. So, I think back very, very fondly on that time, but I never, ever, ever considered myself Bruce Wayne material." - Cillian Murphy
His screen test also got him Inception and Dunkirk, so not a failure by any means.
What a nice guy!
@@pawacoteng And now, he'll be Oppenheimer. So eagerly awaiting that for next year.
Not Bruce Wayne material but Batman material. Bale was both
Happy that I was the 1k like for this comment and pull quote 👍🏻
Cillian Murpheys bruce wayne came off like a serial killer lol... no wonder they cast him as crane lol..
He look psychopath.
He would have sucked has Batman am glad they went with bale thank god for that.
He did pretty well as batman
mohammed lieze Yeah he did alright has Batman but he’s too ugly and to skinny to be Batman am glad they went with bale to play Batman.
Nelson Marvel 88 that’s why actors work out for their roles
Cillean Murphy is such a good actor y’all. He nailed part of scarecrow
i think he was perfect as Scarecrow
LoL it was a re-imagining of scarecrow
He’s also very handsomely creepy
SzS
That’s why I’m glad Chris got it
Nolan said it: "You cannot give a normal performance, you cannot give an ordinary performance, you had to project massive energy trough this costume in order to not quiestion the costume". Christian Bale understood that to perfection
May have gone overboard though...
There's a reason people call his voice the "throat cancer" voice 😅
Pattinson exudes more of a Batman ora than Bale IMHO.
His Batman is just calm and rarely speaks, and it's that calmness and ambiguity that can make him seem more terrifying in the eyes of his opponents.
Secretly, but not so secretly, he's just some messed up guy. 😅
But hey, different filmmakers with different vision, each Batman worked well in their respective films.
@@samf.s.7731 yes you totally nailed it. Everyone knows how Batman's voice sounded in comic books
this is actually something I do when I'm at the beach in my swimshorts
@@samf.s.7731 He's a detective before he's a fighter, he's always trying to look for clues and to see who's the one behind all the chaos. He doesn't even know what Crane's play is until he realizes that Crane was just a pawn in a bigger guys schemes. IN that being Ra's Al Ghoul. Also, the original Bale Batman voice is supposed to be just what we heard here, but Nolan didn't think it was quite menacing enough. So, he decided to alter it a bit in post. Christian wasn't too happy at first that he wasn't told. I imagine he may have let Nolan hear what he thought about it.
@@samf.s.7731Pattinson didn't perform Batman well, he became Batman for the length of the film. Amazing stuff.
christian bale was already bruce wayne from his role in american pshyco
Because he was Bateman. Patrick Bateman
The persona is almost the same. Both hide who they truly are. A dark version of themselves. Bale just tapped into that persona which he already practiced.
Bat(e)man
Because he's the Bateman
The public Bruce Wayne is an asshole like Bateman is, indeed.
Pretty trippy seeing Cillian in the Bat-suit, reminds me of Tom Hiddleston's Thor. Quite mind-blowing!
His bat voice was quite good tho
His lips are pretty puffy
@@thestarkknightreturns but his look and body doesn't fit for the role.
@@thestarkknightreturns great username
Omg trueeee
Cillian Murphy was perfect for Scarecrow
Perfect for thomas shelby
@@pasyabey5783 peaky blinders is trash
@@cymruambyth7758 your poes
@@pasyabey5783 💯
@@bantz10 a poes, damn all you little kids really need to learn how to spell instead of cutting corners 🥱
I could absolutely see Cillian Murphy as Batman, however his Bruce Wayne didn’t feel right to me. He looked too skinny.
He gave me like a Rich spoiled teen vibe
@@haydencepeda9298 He was good Scarecrow though.
@@haydencepeda9298 you're right. Cillian Murphy looks more like teenager than adult when Bruce Wayne is a grown-up man. His performence with Scarecrow is freaking amazing tho, the character suits him perfectly👌🏻
@@haydencepeda9298 have you seen peaky blinders?
That's how the new batman looks. Guy who played me.
Christian Bale: I'M BATMAN!
Cilian Murphy: 👁👄👁
👁👃👁
🚬
Thomas shelby
Lmao couldn’t have described it any better
Cillian Murphy is too beautiful to be Bruce Wayne.
@@eddiegodoy5120 What should a Billionaire Playboy.shoukd be look like? I think like Cillian Murphy was too young looking maybe as a Young Batman
He would be a perfect role for that now
@@Xighor cillian murphy muscle not big enough as batman
Cillian Murphy can be a perfect cast for Batman Who Laughs. He can be psychotic and serious batman at the same time.
Don’t do it, don’t give me hope.
On to something 👁
This would be... Jesus... Its giving m Chills
batman who wears peaky blinder
You've got a brilliant mind-
When Christian Bale said "Swear to me"
Everyone: OoO that was so terrifying!
When Eoin Bailey said "Swear to me"
Everyone: Aww how cute.
Right?? I wasn’t the least bit intimidated. I might’ve laughed in his face
@@Memnoch_the_Devil that was just a joke😂
Yesss. I fucken laughed when he said that. He would be good if he was playing Batman in the 50’s or something with those old school gangsters that say, “listen here see”, and that kinda shit.
Tyler Neal mh
More like when Bale said "Swear to me!", everyone was wiping the expectorations off of their faces.
Nolan: sorry Murphy, we decided Bale will be batman.
Murphy: aw thats too bad, thanks for the opportunity tho.
Nolan: well I was gonna ask you this... how do you feel about playing the villain?
Murphy: I'm listening....
Lol did that happen?
@@attiepollard7847 I hope it did
Cringe
Nolan made a offer so Murphy couldn’t refuse
Nolan: Sorry, Bale's got the Batman part
Murphy: Would you like to see my mask?
People still don’t understand how this trilogy change superhero movies forever because after this even action stars had a hard time getting work because the performances in this series was so phenomenal
Bale as Batman was kinda derpy though
@@immadumbfuck4942 nah
@@immadumbfuck4942 nah
no
@@peanutbutterrobot did you see the scene of him asking bane where the trigger was? It was literally like watching a man with a severe mental illness have an episode.
I love how tentative actors were about being in a super hero movie back in 2005. Now, in the marvel era, every big actor is a superhero
That’s why Bale was lucky, he was a part of a fantastic trilogy that will be compared to for a long time!
I believe they’re tentativeness was due to a lack of insecurity on how to approach established characters while making it their own. MCU/DC acting is by far the hardest to pull off.
Apart from X Men and Spider-Man, the superhero genre (especially DC) was in a complete mess due to the 90s Batman films. After the extremely campy and over the top movies with their Bat Credit Cards, nipples and neon colored visuals most actors in 2003 would’ve been like ‘nah, I’ll pass’.
@@3boodae749 That's exactly what they said. Look up a recent interview with Michael Keaton and he explicitly says that he WISHED he had an opportunity to play the kind of Batman role that Christopher Nolan devised for Christian Bale. His reticence to continue the role of Batman after Tim Burton's second film was precisely because it turned campy and silly in order for the studio to stake deals with toy companies to sell merchandise, but it all backfired because the movies were so terrible they practically killed the superhero genre for an entire generation.
Marvel era is over thankfully
There's a lesson here. Cillian Murphy screen tested for Batman and didn't get it. Disappointment. End of the road.
Nope. Because he gave that screen test 100% and they liked what he did, he was offered the role of Scarecrow, becoming not only one of the few supporting actors to return for all three Batman movies, but also coming second only to Michael Caine for the most appearances in individual Nolan films (Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Inception, The Dark Knight Rises, and Dunkirk).
That's how I got my new job
sightinsight who doesn’t honestly
@@mikde-ye7pi he was barely seen in tdk and tdkr, so yeah
@@rajarshisantra8203 Still got paid for those.
@@rajarshisantra8203
Those are still phenomenal credits to his name and he got paid a lot. Now he's in Peaky Blinders and remains one of the most highly sought actors in the industry. Man gave it his all and succeeded.
Cillian Murphy is a really great actor. But he looked a bit too young for the role at the time. But with his look in the Peaky Blinders he would be an amazing Batman. He has that dark soul inside him.
Definitely. He could've easily have been Batman if he were older.
I personally feel like a younger faced Batman actually works really well in the context of the film, being that its supposed to be the early ventures of Batman.
my only problem is that his voice doesn't provide that fear to the criminals as Batman. He was skinny at the time although a great actor as well. Bale was perfect for Nolan's vision of his Batman.
@@PeanutButterAndJellyBros Murphy can put on weight and muscle for the role.
In Batman Year One the Comic book Batman started his crime fighting at 25.
Glad Cillian Murphy wasn’t overlooked. Only mistake in this film was not keeping Amy Adams, way better pick than chosen Rachels
She didn’t want to return
@@Sam-ds3wm Amy admas got turned down
Amy Adams was never in The Franchise. She was in MoS, BvS and Justice League. You're talkin' about Katie Holmes. They didn't really turn her down either, it was a mutual understanding due to Schedule Conflict. Totally amicable.
@@DavidMyrmidon still possible to be cast as rachel at that time
@@DavidMyrmidon So did they want her initially but had to settle with Holmes/
It's a damn shame Cillian Murphy isn't an a-list celebrity. He is one of the best actors in the business. Should have won multiple Oscar's by now.
He hates Hollywood in other words a proper actor that cares about his craft. Those award shows are geared to those in Hollywood he doesn’t fit the bill.
Can't wait to see him at the front for Oppenheimer
Oscars are a heap of shite, bought by corrupt producers
HE ISNT TF?
@@djr6839 I think it kind of depends on how you define "A-list." Murphy isn't a DiCaprio by any stretch but he's been front man of a super popular tv show for a decade and I bet he can afford to be picky with his projects. He's got a lead in the next Nolan movie for goodness sakes. Maybe he's a B+ list guy.
Cillian was liked so much that he was featured in every movie of the trilogy. Great actor.
It isn’t a Nolan movie without Cillian Murphy lol.
@@Skyx5m50 I'm 90% sure that Cillian is gonna pop up in Nolan's future projects too lol
Cillian Murphy's Batman voice was actually pretty good
Similar to Val Kilmer’s
Uncultured
Wait for twilight guy. Lol.
Yeah but he is an iconic Scarecrow...
Had there been a night wing movie afterwards; a scarecrow movie would’ve definitely been in the books...had Nolan continued the Batman verse movies!
Actually, thought Cillian Murphy’s Scarecrow appeared only in Begins and Dark Knight Rises, Scarecrow’s presence was pretty impactful along Nolan’s Batman Trilogy!
@@RoroCoco1672 how did he impact
Title should be "Casting Christian Bale, and Cillian Murphy in the last 60 seconds"
Thank you
You really see how much care and effort goes into these huge movies. Such a long and thoughtful process, especially since this character means so much to so many people, and the potential for the studio to make so much money you really see how important success is for them.
So important that right after all this they called Affleck for the role 😂
@@pjma1059the trilogy was over so why won't they?
Fascinating that many English actors can portray American characters flawlessly, but very few American actors can effectively play English characters
Id say speaking an american accent is easier than a british accent
Dick Van Dyke pulled it off masterfully.
@@David35687 You’re kidding yeah? It’s like Percy Herbert tried to pull the southern accent in Mysterious Island.
@@chichiboypumpi You’re bleedin’ right m8! Lol….
@@David35687 It’s like Percy Herbert trying to pull the Southern accent in Mysterious Island.
Cillian Murphy’s “who was with falcony at the docks” was really good
Ur pfp is amazing
@@Venom-eq1vj thanks brodie
Falcony🤣🤣🤣.....sorry I couldn't help it
@@schmeetsonbeetson7168 shiet you right Falcone*
Travis Scott would have been a better Bruce Wayne tbh
Cillian Murphy is such an underrated actor. I'm glad he's finally getting his big starring moment with Oppenheimer. And, as great in the role as Christian Bale was, I think Cillian Murphy would have been a great Batman as well.
Eion Bailey: Bruce Wayne
Cillian Murphy: Batman
Christian Bale: Bruce Wayne/ Batman
Thats what i was thinking. Cillian was amazing in those shots as Batman but was underwhelming as Bruce Wayne. And that first guy they showed was pretty good as bruce wayne
@@jordansedlacek5627 Bailey was terrible as Bruce Wayne. Sounded like a little school girl
@@trevormason3825 Its all opinions
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Robert Pattinson: Vengeance
Christian bale has the lips and voice to be Batman:
Cillian Murphy: has the lips and voice for a potential robocop movie.
LOL oh wow
Batman has never had weird lips nor a gruff voice like that until Bale played him...
@@ArchangelExile Ghostbusters never had an all female leading cast but- unfortunately we got one back in 2016. Things change as they often do.😢 Christian bale is the best Batman since Michael Keaton, agree to disagree.
@@ArchangelExile yh but let’s be honest it made the movie more thrilling
"Nice shooting son, what's your name?"
"Murphy."
Cillian was PERFECT for the Scarecrow role. He has that ice cold stare that unsettles you. I don't know if it's on purpose or not but it scares the hell outta me. He's perfect for any serial killer role. Not that I wanna typecast the guy haha 😅
Yeah, he's a great actor to play Scarecrow. Too bad they completely wasted it.
@@trissi4468 he was good in the movie red eye, he goes from charming to serial killer in a breath, personally I don't like Christian Bale as batman plus every time he says the words I'm batman I die a little more inside, I preferred Michael Keston, wasn't keen on Clooney, Affleck and Kilmer and as far as the new movie goes I ended up turning it off and as for actors and the accents they attempt to pull off are concerned there are 2 in Got...Liam Cuningham and the bald chap who plays the lord with the posh voice...both men are Irish, i myself was brought up watching the beverly hillbilly's and for years spoke like a backward, inbred, deep south moonshine swilling cattle f-cker so i do understand 🍻🍺♠️🍀😜
crane wears glasses in the comics but nolan had cillian take his glasses off as much as possible bc he loved his eyes so much
Murphy’s voice as batman is so satisfying
His batman voice is top tier beautiful but his brucewayne look is too skinny. Overall bales batman would be a better choice
I think he could of done better than Bale as Batman if Nolan chose him, but the Bruce Wayne part of his audition looks like it was probably very bad and I understand Nolan turning him down. He looked too skinny and that bad haircut makes him look about 17 lol.
@@schmeetsonbeetson7168 I mean, Bale weighed around 125 pounds (~57 kg) for his role in The Machinist (2004), then regained weight to around 220 pounds (~100 kg) in 2005 just in time for Batman Begins. I'll give a 100 for that.
thats interesting because i didnt really notice anything in particular when that clip played but lots of people are commenting on how good it was. on second thoughts i definitely like it more than bale's voice which i think sounds dumb and ruined a lot of the movie for me. dunno why they didnt go all out and use a digital effect on his voice and pretend there is some sort of high tech voice changer implanted in his throat that he can turn on whenever he is batman
I think Cillian Murphy definately needs to be in a Bond film, either as MI5 head, or sortof a double-agent between them & Spectre. It really is a crime that he has'nt been in that particuler cinematic-universe as of yet. First became aware of him in 'Sunshine' & even to this day am completely amazed by how effortlessly he carried that entire film.
Exactly what I thought. He would fit in so great.
Murphy could be an excellent Bond villain, but it needs to be without Craig as Bond.
@@LedosKell True, Murphy would be viewed (by many) as not nearly as 'physical' as Craig...and that being the case, he would be best-cast as yet-another 'untouchable' type of arch-nemesis...which is easily done, considering how many (in the entire Bond-franchise) never managed to throw a single punch, before being neutralized. It's been done, it can be done again & again, ad-nausem...because they (the 'Powers that Be') KNOW that they already have a fan-base of people who WILL pay to go see the newest Bond-film, regardless of whatever the film-critics will say about it...myself included.
Red Eye was the first movie I saw with him and I believe he did that part extremely well
Imagine if Tom hardy became the next James Bond. Having him an Cillian would be perfect, IMO there a top 3 actor duo right now they are amazing on screen together
Christopher Nolan said it best, I feel: it was about casting the right actor for the right part. For Batman Begins, that was absolutely true.
Heath Ledger gets a lot of attention for his role as the joker (rightfully so, it was absolutely brilliant) but props to christian bale for understanding and becoming this character. He came up with the voice thing himself, according to this.
You also should bare in mind so auditions first.
I tend to think of things such as that.
What’s crazy is a lot of actors who where offered the role turned it down due to having to live up to the standards of the joker from the previous Batman now Heath is the undisputed bet joker
@@jhaialx2399 I dispute that
@@NotRustyDusty ahh damn you right almost undisputed
Ledger came up with his own make up and persona of The Joker. And this was the guy from 10 Things I Hate About You. I would say it is just as impressive, if not more.
That “ swear to me “part definitely won him that role
Cillian’s batman was definitely more like the animated series. We are used to seeing him sounding mature, neutral and methodical. Christian’s acting and voice is way more aggressive than that.
Nolan actually cared about the film. All that talent put into the movies.
Murphy would be perfect for Batman now. He buffed up since, he has the grave voice, you don't have to mimick it for the role and as Tommy Shelby he has shown he can play a complicated shades of grey character.
He would be a good bond and Batman now
Smoking and drinking non-stop for Peaky Blinders really cemented that voice.
Nah mate, pattinson nailed it
I think he should play Scarecrow again. Not the uninteresting side-character Scarecrow from the Nolan Triology, I mean a full on psycho Scarecrow, who's the terryfing main villain.
@@trissi4468 That would be scary! Good idea.
What I like most about this trilogy is the fact that it's so relatable! It's so realistic and the closest thing you'll find to "if there was a billionaire that wanted to fight crime and be a hero"...this would be it! Christopher Nolan really had a game changer here! Very different to any other Marvel/DC movie!
Christian Bale: *SWEAR* *TO* *MEEEE* *!!!!!*
Eion Bailey: *swear* *to* *me* *?* *:3*
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Eion Bailey sounded like if batman was a Seinfeld character
"Swear to me!"
* Seinfeld bass plays *
¿What's the deal with the Falcones?
Was he the first one?
U made me chuckle dude 😆
@@stephenstarr9045 That's Gold!I'm dying 😂😂
It’s really interesting to see them mention that many big actors didn’t want to get involved with superhero movies back then. They’re so common and popular now thanks to stuff like the MCU and this Batman trilogy itself that it seems like nearly every big actor has played in at least one.
It's also not entirely true. I thought the same and thought yea that was true not many good actors did want to get involved but then I remembered the X-Men films which had patrick stewart, Ian McKellen, Halle Berry and Hugh Jackman (Hugh wasnt really so big back in 2000s so id barely count him) from the get go who are all really big names and that film came out in 2000 and batman begins didnt come out til 2005 its a bit of a yea i guess but also no not really.
Eion Bailey’s was pretty damn bad lol
He looked great in the suit though.
Kamdan I agree, no one talks about that enough. His jaw looks like Batman in other forms of media. Shame his acting was so bad 😂
Cristian Castillo, it’s somewhat a shame Nolan didn’t have a clear idea of what he wanted out of the characterization of Batman. His direction could have helped Bailey’s performance.
sightinsight fr that “swear to me!” Sounds like something clark would say to Lois 😭
@@kamdan2011 he was too charming to be a batman lmao
Cillian Murphy is an awesome actor and clearly plays Crane extremely well. He did not look good as Batman at all in my opinion. Not his acting, just his overall face doesn’t appear intimidating. Bailey was by far the worst. He would have been an okay Bruce Wayne, but an atrocious Batman
Cillian looks pretty intimidating in peaky blinders, but it’s probably because he looks really young in the screen tests
@@Kaliyumanshum23 Murphy as Bruce Wayne would make a good Elseworlds movies.
@@Kaliyumanshum23 It's not his youth, it's his softness. Bale has an edge to him, and there's a visible air of stress across the tone of his gesticulations, as if he has a hidden anger brimming to get out. Cillian lacks the dark spot in his soul that channels an unspoken anger, thus making him seem more "creepy" than menacing in his portrayal of Batman.
@Boris Karloff I’ve seen Peaky Blinders and he’s awesome in it. But I still don’t think he can pull off Batman. He just doesn’t have that face for it to be put behind the cowl.
@Boris Karloff it’s also his voice. Nothing about Murphy comes off as Batman. I could see him being a decent Bruce Wayne, but that’s all. I would choose him over Iain Glen any day though
Similar vibes for Tom Hiddleston being originally auditioned for role of Thor then later chosen for Loki which he nailed it!
Also Sebastian Stan for Captain America then later chosen for Winter Soldier which he nailed it!
TH audition as Thor was terrible v CH
Incredible how they came to play and absolutely nail the roles of the counterparts/antagonists of the characters they originally auditioned for... Thor × Loki , Cap × Bucky , Bruce Wayne × Scarecrow
Eion Bailey : " Swear to me man i`m really trying here ."
Christian Bale : " SWEAR TO MEE!.
How could you show up to a Batman audition, and not know that Batman has 2 voices?
No, not really. No movie gave him 2 voices before the 2005 film.
@@gomaniz even if that was the case, which it isn't, I think it is obvious that Batman needed a different voice so people wouldn't know that Bruce Wayne is Batman
Actually, anyone who read the comics and watched TAS would know the way Batman’s speech is written, is very different to Bruce Wayne’s. Bale probably did his homework, since he’s a method actor, and got it right where the rest got it wrong
He doesn't thou if anything they got it backwards, batman is his real persona and Bruce is the act so he should have a pretend playboy voice for bruce in public.
I think the difference here is that most of the actors never truly 'changed' their voice, they just lowered it a bit and used a different tone. Keaton still sounded like Keaton, Kilmer still sounded like Kilmer, and Clooney wasn't even trying. Even Kevin Conroy's voice is too unique to have a dramatic distinction between Bruce/Batman. It was just accepted as a 'Cark Kent with glasses' situation and suspend a little disbelief. What Christian did was completely change his voice to where it is unrecognizable from his own, and much more aggressive. Most actors can't do this simply from not having the vocal flexibility.
Begins was always my favourite of the trilogy, I thought the way they explained how he became batman, made it seem so believable and hearing Nolan liken batman to the alien was a stroke of genius, and comes across strongly in the movie, particularly when batman is interrogating Crane after hes given him the fear toxin and we get to see his fear of what the batman is, personified as a demonic entity, its brilliant.
Eion Bailey channeled his inner buzz lightyear when he said “SWEAR TO ME” 😂😂
Bhahahahaha
LOL
I shouldn't have been drinking water when I read this. Lol
Lol
Amy adams should have been Rachel, much better actress
Yesss!
No racheal in Batman begins was the best choice.I didn't like Maggie jylanhal as racheal in dark Knight.Amy adams would have been a disaster!
Brandon Brooks sucks for her the dark knight sequels after BB was one of the best movies in cinematic history! I haven’t seen her in recent movies in years let alone popular ones! She a has been now
@zm534 the only reason I am communicating in English is because the globalized(racist and controlled) world only understand english.I give a dam about my grammatical mistakes.
Nah, I liked Katie Holmes
Isn't TH-cam just lovely? It's great to witness a bit of Cillian in a batsuit
What about me, am I lovely too? 🥹
Had we gotten an older Cillian from like Peaky Blinders, he'd been a good batman on his own
He looks practically the same, don’t see how that would have made much of a difference
Cillian Murphy is a good actor but he's not Batman material. Even Cillian Murphy said he didn't want to play Batman.
He was unsure to take up the role but it's not tht he didn't want it. But when bale was casted he agreed w their choice
@@emyf9197 He was a good sport.
05:16 Cillian was already incarnated into Oppenheimer 18 years before
Bale wearing Val Kilmer's sonar batsuit.
Cillian Murphy's Batman voice was spot on.
However I feel like it was the right thing by not doing the role of Batman and went on to be the SCARECROW.
He took the character to a next level. 👌
He deserves to be Batman now…..after Thomas Shelby. He has developed that physique and the personality.
I know its 10 some years old, but as a simple fan of movies, comics, and Batman. Christopher Nolan did an absolutely phenomenal job of reimagining and bringing him to life. My hat is off to him, and Christian Bale as well.
Cillian was too pretty to be the batman
how can he be pretty?
@@gaboaaa23 his lips were too pretty and so were his cheekbones, he looked too feminine at the time but now that he’s aged, I think he would pull off a great Batman
@@kodakwhite1696 if he is pretty! What is Brad Pit or Paul Walker? He is so far from pretty like the mars frm the earth.
@@gaboaaa23 well he’s got such a unique face so it’s understandable some people may not find him attractive.
Facts.
Fun Fact: Robert Pattinson also auditioned using Val Kilmer suit
Before all the Marvel craze and the special effects superhero blockbusters, there was The Dark Knight Trilogy! This isn’t like any other superhero movie!
Also Sam Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy 😍
There were.It all started with the x men in 2000
@Ray 832 in my opinion this triology is always be the greatest movie of all time
arjun murali
Well you’re right
@@arjunmurali4167 Not the greatest Trilogy but definitely the best Superhero Trilogy
Bale was perfect for Batman I still love him and want him to be batman again.
Maybe a parallel earth movie in future…
Agree. Just watched The Batman and I just couldn't adjust to Pattinson.
Ummm yeah no thanks
I genuinely love Cillian’s Batman voice, sounds a lot more old school Batman, and would actually have taken it any day over Christian’s annihilated vocal chords.
I think cillian murphy in peaky blinders will make a good bruce wayne
This video proves that someone can be immensely talented, can deliver a great performance (murphy) yet the role goes to someone who are just perfect for the role (bale).
No shit
I see what Cillian means , when asked if he would play batman, that "the moment had passed". Now he is Oppenheimer, "the destroyer of worlds".
Christian Bale : SWEAR TO ME
Eion Bailey : sWeAr tO mE
swear to jesus
Didn't know Amy Adam's was involved with the Screen Test.
The bat voice in the audition was so much better than the end result
That is how you do a screen test, you really build an actual place & screen for the actors to be evolved as the character.
"Swear to me" was enough for Nolan to tell Christian is the batman he ws looking for.
Up to this day I can't fathom the idea that tommy shelby was also played by the scarecrow. cillian murphy's range is astounding!
*”Swear to Me!”*
He won it at that moment
Eion Bailey - "Hey when you get a chance, swear to me."
Cillian Murphy would’ve been a fantastic choice imo. The guy has some serious ability. What a different world that would’ve been to have seen Cillian and Heath against eachother in the iconic roles and possibly Bale as Scarecrow.
i wish somehow there was a scene between scarecrow and the joker they wouldve bounced off of each other super well
Every single one of the music pieces played in this video make me feel a completely different emotion. I never hear music from a Batman movie and don’t feel something.
1:31 - undeniable romance and a feeling of longing.
3:38 - relief and temporary peace.
4:59 - focus and controlled rage energy.
You would have loved to have lived in the 1940s I think
Romance???
Cillian “I’m just pretending to be on a horse” *foreshadowing intensifies*
It's funny how things work out. Cillian didn't get the role of Batman, but Christopher Nolan obviously saw something in him to give him Scarecrow along with lots of other roles, resulting in Cillian winning the best actor Oscar. Well deserved
5:25 some pretty good acting there. Look at the emotion in his eyes
Yeah it was too good for a screen test
I wonder how his Batman would be?
Tbh his eyes do not give off a threatening presence as you would expect from batman
@@BMTPotatohead314 it would've he worked if he was rogue super hero, not held back by Batman's sets of ethics
Chris Nolan did the Batman franchise justice with these films. My favorite remains The Dark Knight. What a Masterpiece.
I feel Murphy got rejected because of the fact he is 5'7 because his performance was amazing
It's funny that Lois Lane was originally helping with the screen tests for Batman.
That’s because she was cheating behind Superman’s back and having an affair with Batman.
Christian Bale and Amy Adams are probably very good friends in real life. They were in The Fighter, American Hustle and Vice. 🙂
Christian bale reminds me of a good worker you would find at your job. Dude really treats his art like a job. And gets the job done.
im stuck as seeing him as scarecrow forever now. I mean come on, cillian murphy didnt get enough screentime as scarecrow. he did a wonderful job just portraying how actually insane jonathan crane was. he was good at acting with the eyes. that one scene where falcone is talking to him you can see something in his eyes just changes, and he's no longer doctor crane but he is now scarecrow.
Nolan: "Christian, the character is for you, but you have to go on a diet"
He actually had to gain a shit ton for the role, then he had to cut and bulk again. Exercise is a bitch but hey Bales a fucking mad man
@Illuminator He went from 120 to 220 to 190 to 145 to 228.
I think Cillian would have been really good. He's got a tortured look about him as Bruce Wayne that just looks right. You can tell he's wearing the skin mask of a billionaire and is himself in the batsuit.
Good thing you are not a casting agent or a movie director. He doesn't fit the role and would make a horrible Bruce Wayne. No, no and no.
He does not look the part at all, his looks and acting fit a villain, bale got that "good boy" look to him that just fits both wayne and batman
@@countervolition I see what you mean by that. Cillian is a great actor ofc but his demeanor the way he's acting in the clip is more fitting as a villian than Bruce Wayne
@@raisingthebar5766 yeah that's what i'm saying
Perhaps. Them studios seem like they even consider the actor's name, not only their performance...
Eg. Cillian Murphy the Murph
As apposed to CRISTIAN ... BALE
IDK i tend to think of that sort of thing.
His voice in the scene test was honestly better than the final result
looks at camera
"Im Batman!".....Cut, we have our batman
I can't imagine anybody else saying "Dr. Crane isn't here right now"
This clip feels fresh in 2022. 17 years sure is long. But Nolan's Batman feels like it was just last 2-3 years ago.
1:28 ". . . and carrying a love story, 'cause that was also a hu."
Its a shame Amy didn't get the part, Katie and Maggie just didn't seem to work
Agreed. Maggie nearly ruined (for me) one of the best movies of all time.
Omg Amy Adams would've been 😍
can't imagine Louis Lane as Rachel, lol. Superman would be really angry..
Katie was a good Rachel, Maggie on the other hand just seemed really unbelievable.
@@alcapone4635 agree 100%
That’s an honor and proud 🥹; Christian Bale casting using Val Kilmer’s Sonar Batsuit in Batman Forever.
Cillian Murphy looks like a son of Michael Keaton.
Bale is the best Batman ever
Live action yes I agree but Kevin Conroy’s Batman voice blows his away.
No... that voice is embarrassing
@@robertgonzalez2216 Who? Conroy?
@kiyonexus I like Keaton but I think Bale was better
Keaton is
This makes me wanna see ben afflecks screen test for batman
Michael doesn’t need the screen test, Nolan knew it already.
Ben Affleck was hand picked he didn’t have to audition for the role.
its boring and lazy just like his acting
@@yenkodavi3573 he's a great actor.
He probably killed all the cast with his machine gun.
(Btw this is a joke about batman using guns in bat vs superman).
2 things... i love they are using an old batman suit for the screen tests.... and i would love to see Cillian voice batman in an animated movie or series
"I am pretending I'm on a horse"
"Dont pretend. Be."
Haha i was cracking up at that, just be......
Some great Yoda sh*t right there 😂