Haven’t had any issues with my 15pro max. Battery did decrease slight to 98%. Betas are good, but they do chew battery. Personally, I just wait to get the full release. What I found was helpful is to back up my device and do a full reset after getting the public release.
@@sy4z1402 well, for now it feels okay, as in no bugs or lag, but the battery life seems to be the same shit. I gotta charge it every night, or else power runs out by noon.
I’m on 17.4.1 and I just got the 15 pro recently and I haven’t had issues so far. It’s been a great experience and I did a trade in with the 12 pro max
17.4.1 on base iphone13 is HORRIBLE! lags , keyboard shutters , animations are choopy and battery drains so fast. Poor quality control by apple indeed.
my iphone 11 battery health is 84% on 17.4.1 (re released version) but now I am on 17.5 public beta 4 and its same as in old update. No battery health drop in my case🎉 I am happy with heating also my phone heats less now🎉
I am in the UK and 17.5 seems no different than 17.4.1 except the processing is slightly faster. Won't be long for iOS 18. More AI rubbish to contend with but luckilly that can be turned off if not required. If you charge your battery as you update, there is less cycling going on with your battery, there is little or no draw on the battery, as it is not being drained.
If they dont fix important things in ios18 and just add bunch of useless AI crap im back to Android. Updates are worse and worse and nothing important. Just adding some random crap. I dont give a hell about AI.
@@magistar0 yep. Thats my plan. Coz i dont need anything special of cell just not to die in like year,stable softwere and everyday uses. I bought Iphone coz of stability and then i got issues like on Xiaomi 🤷🏻♂️😂 if nothing change i will go for some midrange Samsung and thats it. Or Pixel. I dont need expensive cell with constant issues. Throwing of money.
My iPhone 15 works much better on 17.5 b4 than on 17.4.1 - it heats up less while playing, the battery drains noticeably slower and I haven't had a problem with the alarm clock. The only thing I regret is the upgrade from 17.3.1, which worked even better.
I can never work these reviews out, 15PM on 17.5 b4, and absolutely no problems, my WiFi speeds are identical to the last beta and indeed all previous beta’s and final releases, cell connections are fine as well, I’m also running this beta on my iPad and Apple TV without problem, and battery life is good with 8hrs 56m screen active time and still at 64% The only difference’s I can see is I’m in the UK and use dual sim’s Three and EE, but most of that active time has been on WiFi, with 3 hours on a cell network with a strong connection
My 14 PM could never stay connected to the WiFi so I quit altogether. Never connect my phone to the WiFi anymore. It was really frustrating after a year and a half.
Question. If I am turning off automatic updates on my iPhone 13 Pro Max should I also turn off “security response & systems file“ as well? Is that take part in the new update? Edit: should I also turn off iOS updates.
The security response is different type of update from Apple usually very small in size. The iOS updates is what 17.5 falls under so you can leave security response off as well. Generally you don’t need to disable it unless the updates are problematic and you manually want to update it. Most people leave this on by default. You can choose disable both iOS updates and security response they are two different types of updates.
@@artemisXsidecross the main issue isn’t the security responses but the problems are with the major updates like iOS 17.5 and also security response updates can be downgraded if you want while regular iOS updates cannot
when you understand that these updates are not intended to correct errors, but serve to make the product dated only in order to replace it with a new one, my iPad worked fine, but after the update it started turning off and the battery life shortened by about 80%, the same with every device from Apple, Applewatch, I charged one update every 4 days and the battery life immediately shortened by 50%, what does this mean?
Apple is no longer concerned with quality just stock buy back and profits. How could this crap be released? I’m staying on 17.4.1 not updating anything
On my momma I just got this new iPhone updated it now my wi if messing up keep cutting off and TH-cam every time ad go off it leave my video in a small screen and then now my top speak not working I hard reset it and it’s still doing
@@iDeviceHelpquick question, my newest iphone 12 came with the 17.5 beta. Is the 17.5 just better? And will I be able to switch from the beta to the official release? Also, any idea when that will happen?
I really really appropriate your honesty bro no need to watch any OTHER videos or TH-camrs before updating your IPHONE❤❤ keep knocking those doors we are all behind you💪🏽
I’ll wait. The last time I did an update (17.4.1), messed up my phone so bad, ended up in the Apple Store and they did a factory reset to the rerelease of the 17.4.1 . I’ll wait.
Apple should issue a statutory warning: update the new version at your own risk 😂. Battery drain is happening now and capacity is also dropping fast. Can we expect anything better?
I think I shall go back to android, iOS is only getting worse and worse in every update….the advantage of not being attached to an ecosystem is that I can change devices and OS without losing anything
What exactly is the point of this Apple event? People just go there and take their phones to video a large screen displaying a bunch of animations. Why don't they complain about the horrible iOS updates? I'm commenting from Nigeria.
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My worst decision was updating to ios 17.4.1 from ios 16.7 on my iphone 11 yesterday 😔😔
What problems are you facing on your iPhone?
Noobyt8426
I wish I never left iOS 16.7 🫤
@@luthermthembu9003lag
iOS 17.4.1 is bad
@@BombCyclone7it’s good for my iPhone 15
As always you’re always there to give us the best 📍
My sweet spot was 17.3.1
Glad I’m still on it.
(15 pro max)
But 17.4.1 so much sucks iphone 15 pro max so much heating can't even hold mobile sucks updates iphones 💔
Yeah I’m still on it too 🙌🏽🙌🏽
smart, 17.4.1 killed my 15 pro max
My sweet spot was 17.3 beta 3 and 17.2
Great side-by-side testing
Thanks for the review
No problem 👍
Very helpful info.. glad i found this one. Wont update yet😃
Haven’t had any issues with my 15pro max. Battery did decrease slight to 98%. Betas are good, but they do chew battery. Personally, I just wait to get the full release. What I found was helpful is to back up my device and do a full reset after getting the public release.
14 Pro here, I regret updating to 17.4.1, as it’s destroyed my battery health and is generally shit. Worst update ever.
how about ios 17.5?
@@sy4z1402 well, for now it feels okay, as in no bugs or lag, but the battery life seems to be the same shit. I gotta charge it every night, or else power runs out by noon.
iphone 13 pro here, upgrading to 17.4 worst decision of my life, H O R R I B L E BATTERY FUCKING WORST EVER
@@theroyalcam 17.5 not too bad, battery lasts longer
I don’t mean any harm but are you sure they are both connected to 5ghz/6ghz WiFi? Thanks.
How do you know it’s gonna be worse with the public release? Is it assured thing or unassured?
I am pretty scared of the battery drain, so I am just gonna wait this one out and stay on 17.4.1
I’m on 17.4.1 and I just got the 15 pro recently and I haven’t had issues so far. It’s been a great experience and I did a trade in with the 12 pro max
17.4.1 on base iphone13 is HORRIBLE! lags , keyboard shutters , animations are choopy and battery drains so fast. Poor quality control by apple indeed.
I bought my iphone 13 2 days ago and its draining so bad
So true
Yes it’s not just that model a lot of users say the update is very bad
17.4.1 has been great on my 15 Pro Max 👍
@@davidjacobs6244 this guy is talking here about iphone 13 not 15 pro max...
my iphone 11 battery health is 84% on 17.4.1 (re released version) but now I am on 17.5 public beta 4 and its same as in old update. No battery health drop in my case🎉 I am happy with heating also my phone heats less now🎉
I am in the UK and 17.5 seems no different than 17.4.1 except the processing is slightly faster. Won't be long for iOS 18. More AI rubbish to contend with but luckilly that can be turned off if not required.
If you charge your battery as you update, there is less cycling going on with your battery, there is little or no draw on the battery, as it is not being drained.
If they dont fix important things in ios18 and just add bunch of useless AI crap im back to Android. Updates are worse and worse and nothing important. Just adding some random crap. I dont give a hell about AI.
Same
Same, I don't give a fk about AI XD, idk what the hype is all about. but am not going back to android hell nah. I love iphones and ios
Wait before ios 18 and then decide will you switvh to android.Maybe apple get us surprise
@@magistar0 yep. Thats my plan. Coz i dont need anything special of cell just not to die in like year,stable softwere and everyday uses. I bought Iphone coz of stability and then i got issues like on Xiaomi 🤷🏻♂️😂 if nothing change i will go for some midrange Samsung and thats it. Or Pixel. I dont need expensive cell with constant issues. Throwing of money.
how many hours can lasts my iphone 13 with 80% of battery health? i use dark mode all the time
My iPhone 15 works much better on 17.5 b4 than on 17.4.1 - it heats up less while playing, the battery drains noticeably slower and I haven't had a problem with the alarm clock. The only thing I regret is the upgrade from 17.3.1, which worked even better.
Yeah I wish I still had 17.3
I can never work these reviews out, 15PM on 17.5 b4, and absolutely no problems, my WiFi speeds are identical to the last beta and indeed all previous beta’s and final releases, cell connections are fine as well, I’m also running this beta on my iPad and Apple TV without problem, and battery life is good with 8hrs 56m screen active time and still at 64%
The only difference’s I can see is I’m in the UK and use dual sim’s Three and EE, but most of that active time has been on WiFi, with 3 hours on a cell network with a strong connection
I keep reminding you, it’s not megabytes per second download, it’s megabits - a factor of 1024 times slower.
I’m glad that Apple will be releasing iOS 17.5 because I am still facing a bug with dictation when I put in TH-cam video titles
Did you report this in the feedback app?
is privat relay turned off?
My iPhone 12 with iOS 17.4.1 has suddenly started losing a lot of power. During the night, the battery loses as much as 25%.
I had iPhone 12 Pro and getting too old and got a iPhone 15 pro max
I thought I was the only one experiencing this
iPhone 15 pro max losing power at night
My 14 PM could never stay connected to the WiFi so I quit altogether. Never connect my phone to the WiFi anymore. It was really frustrating after a year and a half.
just reset network setting it may help
I haven’t had any problems on 17.4.1 on my iPhone 15 pro. I’m nervous to upgrade to 17.5 after watching this video 😮
17.5 stable??
This was also the case with iOS 17.3.1 versus 17.4. I think this will remain in the future.
Question. If I am turning off automatic updates on my iPhone 13 Pro Max should I also turn off “security response & systems file“ as well? Is that take part in the new update?
Edit: should I also turn off iOS updates.
The security response is different type of update from Apple usually very small in size. The iOS updates is what 17.5 falls under so you can leave security response off as well. Generally you don’t need to disable it unless the updates are problematic and you manually want to update it. Most people leave this on by default. You can choose disable both iOS updates and security response they are two different types of updates.
@@BombCyclone7
How do you update only security updates?
@@artemisXsidecross the main issue isn’t the security responses but the problems are with the major updates like iOS 17.5 and also security response updates can be downgraded if you want while regular iOS updates cannot
when you understand that these updates are not intended to correct errors, but serve to make the product dated only in order to replace it with a new one, my iPad worked fine, but after the update it started turning off and the battery life shortened by about 80%, the same with every device from Apple, Applewatch, I charged one update every 4 days and the battery life immediately shortened by 50%, what does this mean?
Must say I’m on 15 PM with 17.5. the touchscreens has some issues, with not beeing responsive
Apple is no longer concerned with quality just stock buy back and profits. How could this crap be released? I’m staying on 17.4.1 not updating anything
After Apple store factory reset and downloaded the 17.4.1- re-release, my phone is running much better.
On my momma I just got this new iPhone updated it now my wi if messing up keep cutting off and TH-cam every time ad go off it leave my video in a small screen and then now my top speak not working I hard reset it and it’s still doing
Sounds like it might be worth waiting for 17.5.1
Absolutely
@@iDeviceHelpquick question, my newest iphone 12 came with the 17.5 beta. Is the 17.5 just better? And will I be able to switch from the beta to the official release? Also, any idea when that will happen?
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I really really appropriate your honesty bro no need to watch any OTHER videos or TH-camrs before updating your IPHONE❤❤ keep knocking those doors we are all behind you💪🏽
iPhone 13 Pro Max updated to 17.4.1 now it won’t charge with MagSafe unless I force restart the phone. Worst update
If ure in the EU, the update is overall more stable. This 17.5 does nothing in the Us
How about green screen issues on iPhone 13?
I’m on 14 pro max and I’ve been having issues with iMessages sending as green
iPhone 14 Pro with all betas I lost 4% from battery health and some lag on the keyboard.
I’ll wait. The last time I did an update (17.4.1), messed up my phone so bad, ended up in the Apple Store and they did a factory reset to the rerelease of the 17.4.1 . I’ll wait.
did factory reset help at all? i upgraded my iphone 13 pro to 17.4 and it destroyed my battery performance and hasn't improved at all.
Im having problems as well I can’t play swfl and it’s freezing and showing purple screen
Beta testing always drops battery health
Must be an added caveat
My up15pro damn suck issue wifi connection problem apps store other apps not work when I use WiFi on 17.4.1
Ios 15 was last good update since then onward one or two bugs
Heating!!
which device are you using?
@@iDeviceHelp not in 17.5
iOS 17.4.1 has heating on my All devices like 15 Pro,13 Pro,14Plus,12 mini,13 mini,11 Pro & my Xs
My iPhone battery drain all the way down when idle on iOS 17.4.1😪
Running beta here still 100% battery health
🤙🏽for your honest review
Always
Stopped updating after iOS 15.4.1 (iPhone 12 pro) and I’m happy.
iPhone 15 Pro Max here on iOS 17.5 beta 4. I’m getting 600 download and 39 upload
Myself 89% from 92% still 17.4.1 honestly we suffering battery drain on this IOS 17
Are you sure that you turn off private relay on 17.5 :))
I’m on 16.4.1 on my SE. I’ll update to 17 when 18 rolls out. Too many updates and bugs and headaches.
Don’t upgrade, it’s the best decision
Iphone 11 with 17.4.1, heavy battery drain and network issues (lte unstable) since 2 weeks, so bad
Same here my battery percentage is 92%
Well one is on a beta and other is on a public release so can’t really compare it lol
its the RC version, there's not gonna be any updates, so yeah this is basically like a public release.
@@cemalshabinas beta 4 is not the RC
@@quadriderhonda mb bro
I prefer when Apple use to do its own thing and not in any competition with anyone when the software use to just work and work well
That 17.5 update bricked my phone, I had to restore
iOS 17.4.1 on my iPhone 13 Pro gets hot sometimes
I m going to turn off automatic updates
Thanks. After reading your post, it's exactly what I did.
Always a smart choice.
That’s what I did.
Apple should issue a statutory warning: update the new version at your own risk 😂. Battery drain is happening now and capacity is also dropping fast. Can we expect anything better?
Too late I updated my iPhone XR long time ago
Cellular data on beta 4 hasn’t been good I reported it in the feedback app
Update krna chaye ha ya nai
My worst decision was updating to ios 17.4.1 from ios 16.7 on my iphone 12 pro max recently 😢😢
I feel like my iPhone 15 Pro is just fine on the latest update.
I updated to 17.5 I had a problem with wifi
My phone call ring is not playing in 17.4.1 update
Force reset vol + then - then hold only power button until you see apple logo
iOS 17.5 getting heat more than 17.4.1 2nd update but sound quality had increased on 17.5. 17.4.1 2nd update was too good for heat management.
device?
Who’s got the 13pro max battery issues with the last update?
I'm definitely not going to update
A curious question: Are there people over eighty years of age who are very elderly people who own and will use modern smart phones?
Yes
I think I shall go back to android, iOS is only getting worse and worse in every update….the advantage of not being attached to an ecosystem is that I can change devices and OS without losing anything
I’m not sure what will happen if I use my iPhone 15 till Dec 2025 😅
I am running 17.4.1 on an iphone 11. NO issues, ever! Maybe your carrier. In Australia no such issues.
my iphone 15 pro max baterry with 17.04 battery drain
Still on 17.1.1 on my 14 plus
17.4.1 iPhone 14 plus ❤
I’ll say this for 17.5 I kinda got the opposite effect of a lot of things
the worst update for 15 pro is 17.4.1 !!!! A big shitt !
My best decision was to turn off auto updates.
What is going on with Apple?
Since i update to ios 17 may battery drains fast
What exactly is the point of this Apple event? People just go there and take their phones to video a large screen displaying a bunch of animations. Why don't they complain about the horrible iOS updates?
I'm commenting from Nigeria.
thank you i will not update my iphone i will stay at 17.4.1
Till ios 17.2 everything was okay. But ios 17.3 fucked up everything
Your ping is insanely high 😮
What is the GO meter you use?
Its called "speediest".
@@andevrezme3059wrong. It’s called SPEEDTEST.
17.4.1 is bad for iPhone 15 Pro Max. So many lagging
Mine is 89
Even since iOS 16 came out 2 years ago I’ve find iOS so unreliable and glitchy not good even with iOS 17 not good
Mine dropped to 90%
iPhone 15 pro max losing power at night
15 pro max 17.5
Wow
still on 16.4
The 17.4.1 is terrible in the 14 pro max
My phone is fine on iOS 17.5
And it’s your wifi not the phone my wifi works great on my 15 pro max