My ultimate one stop for diy. Im a amateur at best but have been able to do so much more in confidence thanks to your videos. Always good to see new handy tools like this
They make a wrench for these couplings instead of channel locks. It’s a spanner style and has both sizes in one wrench. Love these fittings, great product!!!
I always try to avoid using any fitting underground, if possible, but the waterboard use these fittings underground, so it should be fine. However, I would wrap the fitting, once the joint has been made, with some plastic sheeting, to prevent the fitting from the concrete 👍
hope you can help me. I know this is an old post but can't find help anywhere. today I had to change a coupling from mdpe to 22mm copper. Thing is when fitting a new 25mm mdpe connection it never fitted . so question is will this do the trick as hate being stuck.
+James Nicol Yes, as long as you get the correct Universal transitional coupling it will work no problem at all. I think you would need a 1144 as shown on this page- www.philmac.co.uk/products/details/?type=2&sub=33
Yes, certainly. This is the most versatile pipe fitting that I know of, you can use it to join any pipe to any pipe! You just need to get the correct one and use inserts on plastic/alkathene pipes 👍
No, you do not need an insert on the lead side. You can get some fittings made by melimatic that will work on MDPE without the pipe insert, so it's best to use one with most fittings but probably not as critical as it is with other types of plastic pipe. Thanks for the comment ;-)
You have to be careful doing that, as it is known as a "dead leg", which can lead to potential water contamination, which can cause stagnation etc. That is why most people remove the branch at source. If it won't create a dead leg, you can get a blanking plug for the other end of the UTC- www.moleonline.com/philmac-3g-metric-imperial-blanking-plug-1036726
Hi there, I checked on technical data and its mentioned almost all but not blue water MDPE pipe, is there any reason or its like may work or may not work and is it approved? I need to connect 20mm MDPE to 15mm copper pipe
These are fine on MDPE, just make sure that you use the pipe insert (often it is with the UTC) They are approved for use on water pipes in most countries. This should be the one that you need, but shop around, as you might be able to get it cheaper. plumbsparesdirect.com/store/plumbing-parts/Philmac-Fittings/philmac-utc/philmac-utc-coupling-1032 Thanks for the comment 👍
Hi gr8 video. Could you please help? I need to connect a half inch old lead pipe to a 25mm mdpe pipe. Could you tell me the philmac part I need? Thanks so much
You need to check the external diameter of the lead pipe, as 1/2 lead pipe can vary between about 22mm and 26mm (roughly) depending on whether it is 6lb, 7lb or 9lb lead. If it is between 21mm and 27mm outside diameter you can get a Philmac UTC that goes from 25mm on one side to 21-27 on the other, it looks like you need the 98104300 but please check this- www.philmac.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Utc_3G_tech_manual_METRIC-IMPERIAL_email_version.pdf
Thanks for posting that video. Struggled with the imperial pipe in the former attic tank connection. I'll give this thing a try. It's worth mentioning perhaps that Philmac make straight couplers for same diameter pipes too so if you're wanting to connect lead with lead for example you can do that too. Awesome!
Someone asked the exact same question, so I'll copy and paste that answer- You need to check the external diameter of the lead pipe, as 1/2 lead pipe can vary between about 22mm and 26mm (roughly) depending on whether it is 6lb, 7lb or 9lb lead. If it is between 21mm and 27mm outside diameter you can get a Philmac UTC that goes from 25mm on one side to 21-27 on the other, it looks like you need the 98104300 but please check this- www.philmac.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Utc_3G_tech_manual_METRIC-IMPERIAL_email_version.pdf
i know this is an old video but im just renovating my new house and the mains supply into the house is lead - can i use one of these to go from the lead pipe to copper?
Yes, you can use one of these, or you can use a Leadloc fitting (you need one to go from lead to copper) th-cam.com/video/PKUt9CX3UKU/w-d-xo.html But the UTC is probably easier. It might be worth considering replacing the lead pipe with MDPE, I have done this in the last 2 properties that I have renovated- th-cam.com/video/6MWSWz3YVPo/w-d-xo.html Good luck with it ;-)
@@ultimatehandyman many thanks. Would that be a hep2o insert or does it have to be a specific one as the standard hep insert looks pretty short against the philmac utc fitting.
@@spaceman6541 You need the corresponding insert for the pipe that you are using, so HEP2O pipe will need a HEP2O insert. Even though it will go far in the fitting, it should prevent the pipe from crushing 👍
Hi, I need to connect to a lead pipe. I cant find any videos showing how to do it. The promotional video for the product says its possible. How does it not just crush the lead pipe? Do you put a lining piece inside the lead pipe (as you do with the MPDE)?
I don't think you need a insert with lead pipe, as far as I am aware you can just use the UTC on the pipe. I've used lead-loc fittings in the past (which are also compression) and they don't need a insert for lead pipe- th-cam.com/video/PKUt9CX3UKU/w-d-xo.html
My ultimate one stop for diy. Im a amateur at best but have been able to do so much more in confidence thanks to your videos. Always good to see new handy tools like this
Id love have this guy as a mate. Hes AWESOME.. helped me out no end of times. Top bloke
Thanks David ;-)
top tip, i was looking for an easy way to solve a lead pipe problem and this looks like it will do the trick properly
Very good. I would have liked to see inside the thing to see how it works
I’ll try to cover that in another video.
Thanks for the comment 👍
They make a wrench for these couplings instead of channel locks. It’s a spanner style and has both sizes in one wrench. Love these fittings, great product!!!
I’ve seen the wrenches but not bought one as I don’t use these often.
Thanks for the comment
Should these be used inside a property connecting lead to blue pipe then concreted in the floor leading up to a stop tap?
I always try to avoid using any fitting underground, if possible, but the waterboard use these fittings underground, so it should be fine. However, I would wrap the fitting, once the joint has been made, with some plastic sheeting, to prevent the fitting from the concrete 👍
hope you can help me. I know this is an old post but can't find help anywhere. today I had to change a coupling from mdpe to 22mm copper. Thing is when fitting a new 25mm mdpe connection it never fitted . so question is will this do the trick as hate being stuck.
+James Nicol Yes, as long as you get the correct Universal transitional coupling it will work no problem at all. I think you would need a 1144 as shown on this page- www.philmac.co.uk/products/details/?type=2&sub=33
You know this joiner will it connect old black alkethein water pipes to the blue pipes the black pipe is a weird size thank you
Yes, certainly. This is the most versatile pipe fitting that I know of, you can use it to join any pipe to any pipe! You just need to get the correct one and use inserts on plastic/alkathene pipes 👍
Hi I notice that for the mdpe connection you used an insert, if you are connecting to lead would you also have to use an insert :)
No, you do not need an insert on the lead side.
You can get some fittings made by melimatic that will work on MDPE without the pipe insert, so it's best to use one with most fittings but probably not as critical as it is with other types of plastic pipe.
Thanks for the comment ;-)
Thanks for the video. What would you use if you wanted to use a UTC to attach to a lead pipe and cap the end?
You have to be careful doing that, as it is known as a "dead leg", which can lead to potential water contamination, which can cause stagnation etc. That is why most people remove the branch at source.
If it won't create a dead leg, you can get a blanking plug for the other end of the UTC-
www.moleonline.com/philmac-3g-metric-imperial-blanking-plug-1036726
Hi there, I checked on technical data and its mentioned almost all but not blue water MDPE pipe, is there any reason or its like may work or may not work and is it approved? I need to connect 20mm MDPE to 15mm copper pipe
These are fine on MDPE, just make sure that you use the pipe insert (often it is with the UTC)
They are approved for use on water pipes in most countries.
This should be the one that you need, but shop around, as you might be able to get it cheaper.
plumbsparesdirect.com/store/plumbing-parts/Philmac-Fittings/philmac-utc/philmac-utc-coupling-1032
Thanks for the comment 👍
Hi gr8 video. Could you please help? I need to connect a half inch old lead pipe to a 25mm mdpe pipe. Could you tell me the philmac part I need? Thanks so much
You need to check the external diameter of the lead pipe, as 1/2 lead pipe can vary between about 22mm and 26mm (roughly) depending on whether it is 6lb, 7lb or 9lb lead.
If it is between 21mm and 27mm outside diameter you can get a Philmac UTC that goes from 25mm on one side to 21-27 on the other, it looks like you need the 98104300 but please check this-
www.philmac.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Utc_3G_tech_manual_METRIC-IMPERIAL_email_version.pdf
So I can i use this to connect my old steel water pipes 22mm’ish and on to my lovely new 15mm copper pipes I’ve installed in my bathroom?
Yes, this is the UTC that you need www.wolseley.co.uk/product/philmac-universal-transition-coupler-21-27-x-15-21mm/
Thanks for the comment 👍
Thanks for posting that video. Struggled with the imperial pipe in the former attic tank connection. I'll give this thing a try.
It's worth mentioning perhaps that Philmac make straight couplers for same diameter pipes too so if you're wanting to connect lead with lead for example you can do that too. Awesome!
I'm glad the video helped, the Philmac UTC's are excellent.
Thanks for the comment 👍
Brilliant idea ..
Hope they do a UTC elbow to fit my MDpe pipe .to fix Copper ...in my kitchen ..
They make several different elbows, I'm sure you will be able to get one 👍
@@ultimatehandyman thanks Chaz
hi there great video! I need to connect an old half inch lead pipe to 25mm mdpe. what size philmac would you recommend? Many thanks chief
Someone asked the exact same question, so I'll copy and paste that answer-
You need to check the external diameter of the lead pipe, as 1/2 lead pipe can vary between about 22mm and 26mm (roughly) depending on whether it is 6lb, 7lb or 9lb lead.
If it is between 21mm and 27mm outside diameter you can get a Philmac UTC that goes from 25mm on one side to 21-27 on the other, it looks like you need the 98104300 but please check this-
www.philmac.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Utc_3G_tech_manual_METRIC-IMPERIAL_email_version.pdf
Philmac Make great Fittings
Absolutely 👍
i know this is an old video but im just renovating my new house and the mains supply into the house is lead - can i use one of these to go from the lead pipe to copper?
Yes, you can use one of these, or you can use a Leadloc fitting (you need one to go from lead to copper)
th-cam.com/video/PKUt9CX3UKU/w-d-xo.html
But the UTC is probably easier.
It might be worth considering replacing the lead pipe with MDPE, I have done this in the last 2 properties that I have renovated-
th-cam.com/video/6MWSWz3YVPo/w-d-xo.html
Good luck with it ;-)
Are we allowed to attach a white hep pipe to this fitting?
Yes, just make sure you use a pipe insert 👍
@@ultimatehandyman many thanks.
Would that be a hep2o insert or does it have to be a specific one as the standard hep insert looks pretty short against the philmac utc fitting.
@@spaceman6541 You need the corresponding insert for the pipe that you are using, so HEP2O pipe will need a HEP2O insert.
Even though it will go far in the fitting, it should prevent the pipe from crushing 👍
So I can use this to connect lead pipe to mdpe pipe ???
Absolutely, it is great for that ;-)
Thanks for the comment 👍
What do you think the life expectancy of the coupling may be? Thank you.
They should last for decades. Utility companies use these couplings underground etc.
Thanks for the comment
We have used them for 5+ years without a failure. Great product.
How can i get this product?
Most plumbers merchants sell them, such as here-
www.wolseley.co.uk/pipe-systems/pe-pipe-and-fittings/couplings/?facet1=Brand%3APhilmac
@@ultimatehandyman how about in the US? thanks
Hi, I need to connect to a lead pipe. I cant find any videos showing how to do it. The promotional video for the product says its possible. How does it not just crush the lead pipe? Do you put a lining piece inside the lead pipe (as you do with the MPDE)?
I don't think you need a insert with lead pipe, as far as I am aware you can just use the UTC on the pipe.
I've used lead-loc fittings in the past (which are also compression) and they don't need a insert for lead pipe- th-cam.com/video/PKUt9CX3UKU/w-d-xo.html
Looks like a lot of messing about, just use Talbot Pushfit and save yourself time and tools.
bagus skali
great stuff. seems incredibly bulky tho...
Yes, they are bulky, but I think their main use is underground where the size does not matter so much.
Thanks for the comment
I used it to connect onto galvanised steel in the loft. Gets your out of difficult situations. So quick .
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Can’t tell what that is ?
As a plumber I hated the way you held your tools hahah
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@@ultimatehandyman good video tho lol