Every time I see people laboriously typing out feet+apostrophe+inches+double-quotation-mark+fractions-of-an-inch, I thank God I live in a country that uses metric.
@@morpheusduvall I _did_ grow up with it (kind of); I lived in the USA until I was 10. I guess that's hardly the age by which you get accustomed to those measurements though. 😆
In my experience, it is the jump between rooms, the doors, and threshold that really throws LiDAR off in terms of the accuracy. As long as you are diligent about slowly scanning a single room, they often give very accurate scan quite easily. (You might have moved the door whilst scanning, it can throw things off) In fact, LiDAR scan really shines in rooms that aren't rectangular like yours; curves, angles, multiple pockets of closets and nooks. With laser/tape measure, rectangular rooms like this is only 3 measurements. All in all, I still measure with my laser/tape measure when surveying. And use LiDAR or 3D scan as a backup. Or quick method to generate 3D and adjust per my measurement.
Interesting test Matt. This is probably the only feature that has made me consider an iPad. Have you tried AO on your built-in to add to the realism before the pitch to the boss?
Nicely done Matt. Easy versus precise. Sometimes easy is good enough. Sometimes it is not. And for the sanity of all, don't get me started on precise versus accurate...
So, i work for an Architect, and do alot of measure ups, and where i can i use a laser measurement device (inside, mostly) I do. It's way more easy than a tape (used tapes for many years before lasers were up to snuff, and you still need them for some things, but i digress). Some of the laser devices allow you to transfer measurements directly to a laptop/whatever through Bluetooth, does any version of sketchup support that? Perhaps allowing you to specify which axis you are measuring, then having it accept the measurement from the laser and allowing you to sketch out a room very quickly?
I loved my Hilti laser tape for doing layouts in the field when I was working. So much easier than dragging a tape across a wet environment in the wind. I didn't mind collecting measurements on paper and taking them back to Sketchup. Great for working around furniture, plants and people too. An auto measurement transfer system would be great, but I wouldn't want to take a laptop out into the weather or the craziness of a construction site.
@@steelframe A valid point about a laptop in the field. It could be sketchy (pardon the pun 🤭). Drawing existing conditions on site would have definite benefits, however, and, while the value of some kind of tablet is a bigger risk than a pad of paper and a clipboard, the tablet might be protected enough to make it worth it.
I'm testing to measure by laser tape (a compact Bosch one) and transfer/model directly on SketchUp for iPad. It takes some more time than reporting mesures on paper, but you gain lot of time in office, and.... you can solve errors immediately!
thanks for sharing. Appreciate your thoughts and suggestion on how you could reasonably scan a whole house - is magicplan a suitable option or some other add on app.
Been a paid SketchUp user for 5 years now. We desperately need them to enable us to scan with our iPhones and import the data into SketchUp for desktop. I’ll never want to draw with an iPad. For now, I use Canvas and pay to have them draw SketchUp models from my scans. Worth the money most of the time but I’d love to start drawing my own models from LiDAR scans. Please make Scan To Design work for Desktop!!
The main problem with these scans is, that they have no mirror detection, if you scan the mirror, you get a second mirrored room .. and I have a lot of mirrors and windows.. maybe you can make a video how to prevent it and to post processing the scan.. because sometimes the walls are not exactly straight or align with other walls and then you have to correct them afterwards. I had the idea to project the entire room to a 2D layer, fix them and extrude them again, or how would you do that?
How do you ensure accuracy on your projects?
Every time I see people laboriously typing out feet+apostrophe+inches+double-quotation-mark+fractions-of-an-inch, I thank God I live in a country that uses metric.
That sounds funny but it's totally true
As someone that does the aforementioned daily I totally agree! Don’t get me started on fluid ounces 😂
It’s not bad if you grew up with it
@@morpheusduvall I _did_ grow up with it (kind of); I lived in the USA until I was 10. I guess that's hardly the age by which you get accustomed to those measurements though. 😆
😅 You got it!
In my experience, it is the jump between rooms, the doors, and threshold that really throws LiDAR off in terms of the accuracy.
As long as you are diligent about slowly scanning a single room, they often give very accurate scan quite easily. (You might have moved the door whilst scanning, it can throw things off)
In fact, LiDAR scan really shines in rooms that aren't rectangular like yours; curves, angles, multiple pockets of closets and nooks. With laser/tape measure, rectangular rooms like this is only 3 measurements.
All in all, I still measure with my laser/tape measure when surveying. And use LiDAR or 3D scan as a backup. Or quick method to generate 3D and adjust per my measurement.
Interesting test Matt. This is probably the only feature that has made me consider an iPad. Have you tried AO on your built-in to add to the realism before the pitch to the boss?
Can we get this functionality onto the iphone version where most people have lidar conveniently available and ready to use?
Nicely done Matt. Easy versus precise. Sometimes easy is good enough. Sometimes it is not. And for the sanity of all, don't get me started on precise versus accurate...
So, i work for an Architect, and do alot of measure ups, and where i can i use a laser measurement device (inside, mostly) I do. It's way more easy than a tape (used tapes for many years before lasers were up to snuff, and you still need them for some things, but i digress). Some of the laser devices allow you to transfer measurements directly to a laptop/whatever through Bluetooth, does any version of sketchup support that? Perhaps allowing you to specify which axis you are measuring, then having it accept the measurement from the laser and allowing you to sketch out a room very quickly?
I loved my Hilti laser tape for doing layouts in the field when I was working. So much easier than dragging a tape across a wet environment in the wind. I didn't mind collecting measurements on paper and taking them back to Sketchup. Great for working around furniture, plants and people too. An auto measurement transfer system would be great, but I wouldn't want to take a laptop out into the weather or the craziness of a construction site.
@@steelframe A valid point about a laptop in the field. It could be sketchy (pardon the pun 🤭). Drawing existing conditions on site would have definite benefits, however, and, while the value of some kind of tablet is a bigger risk than a pad of paper and a clipboard, the tablet might be protected enough to make it worth it.
I'm testing to measure by laser tape (a compact Bosch one) and transfer/model directly on SketchUp for iPad. It takes some more time than reporting mesures on paper, but you gain lot of time in office, and.... you can solve errors immediately!
thanks for sharing. Appreciate your thoughts and suggestion on how you could reasonably scan a whole house - is magicplan a suitable option or some other add on app.
be great to see a small mechanical room or above ceiling areas
Been a paid SketchUp user for 5 years now. We desperately need them to enable us to scan with our iPhones and import the data into SketchUp for desktop. I’ll never want to draw with an iPad. For now, I use Canvas and pay to have them draw SketchUp models from my scans. Worth the money most of the time but I’d love to start drawing my own models from LiDAR scans. Please make Scan To Design work for Desktop!!
You can scan with iPad and open it on Desktop right now, if you like. Just save your model on SU for iPad to Trimble Connect, then open it on iPad.
The main problem with these scans is, that they have no mirror detection, if you scan the mirror, you get a second mirrored room .. and I have a lot of mirrors and windows.. maybe you can make a video how to prevent it and to post processing the scan.. because sometimes the walls are not exactly straight or align with other walls and then you have to correct them afterwards. I had the idea to project the entire room to a 2D layer, fix them and extrude them again, or how would you do that?
I would like a scan-to-3d function on desktop, using the point cloud as a base.
Isn't that what he did? scan with the iPad and send to desktop...
@@hermanvandenbroek9152 I need to scan with my phone and process on desktop
So, at the end.. is it accurate or not?
It depends on the job you're doing whether it's accurate enough for you 📏🔍
Google sketchup needs to come to android systems too 😮💨
For how much is the sketch up for iPad subscription is !
Its part of/included in the main sketchup plan.
$17.99 / month