A surface battle is very unique. It does makes sense too, Undyne would follow you to the ends of the earth. Even though humans are way stronger than monsters, I can see them defeating a few unsuspecting humans with their guard down. The explanation of "they are too focused on finding Frisk" is good enough to justify Undyne not absorbing the other humans SOULs. The music itself is great as always.
I love how the soundtrack turned out for Monster Mix's murder route. But with all the extra tracks I realize how brutal this murder route will be compared to other AUs. I don't even want to imagine what a hardmode would look like lol
I definitely like this track, even if I’m a bit bummed that Undyne didn’t think to kill any humans to take their souls I did think of an idea where later in the fight Undyne thought to take a human soul. Maybe some humans try come to your aid only to get killed by Undyne. Eventually it leads into leading to a twisted take on her fight in Pacifist where the objective is to try and survive only you’re prolonging the inevitable. Perhaps during the equivalent of saving the lost souls, you try to reach out to the human souls only for Undyne to have convinced them that you were the real villain all along, making them turn their back on you. Not helped by the fact that you’ve only been killing in this run and perhaps you don’t know how to act. Perhaps after an 8th soul, Undyne pulls an Omega Flowey, warps reality, undoing your actions, with not even an option to reset and get the equivalent of a tainted pacifist ending. Kinda like a more bombastic version of what Chara does at the end of Genocide in Undertale proper. That or any remaining monsters finish off the knocked out humans and take their souls leading to Undyne and Papyrus getting back up.
While Papyrus and Undyne were too busy to think of absorbing a human soul, you know who isn't and hasn't appeared in the geno route of monster mix at all? T H E D O G Yeah, there's a little to no chance of the annoying dog appearing, but, it would make a lot of sense and would be very very cool to have to fight the omega flowey replacement in geno instead of them only dying like normal UT Also, a point could be made that the dog was just goofing around and had no ill intentions in the neutral route, and to that, I counterpoint that now the dog has a clear reason to go against you, and I think that they could kill a single human, absorb a soul, become stronger, kill more, become more stronger, kill even more, do this a few times and turn into literally a god While it would be boring and stacked to have two fights like this one after another, like another commenter pointed, that is what the route is trying to be, a very stacked and difficult game to the point of it becoming boring like Undertale does, and oh boy having to fight literal god would be so cool and a very likely never seen before fight against a monster that has absorbed 7 or more souls (and it's told in og UT that if a monster absorbed 7 souls, they become practically unbeatable) Also I just want to see the annoying dog appear in the geno route
it would have been SO epic When everything seemed lost, it arrives, the dog, with 7 human souls, they could be from Frisk's friends and Chara's soul or simply the souls he got from some random humans with the help of other monsters And with 7 human souls the dog has become GOD Then he would burst into the middle of the battle, Undyne would be smiling and laughing at what was happening and Papyrus would be dumbfounded watching in amazement as that annoying dog that always bothers him has become his salvation Then, H E L L for us, Impossible attacks, torture, games that the dog invents, EVERYTHING Then Undyne and Papyrus would ACT and talk with him to convince him to DESTROY YOU, and then that happens, we die and since the dog has the 7 souls, his determination is greater than ours, so our death is permanent Boom, good ending for the monsters The aftermath of frisk's líes remains unknown Maybe the monsters could convince the humans that Frisk lied? They would have the support of frisk friends' souls Maybe a new war will begin? Maybe now everyone will serve their new god, the dog? Who knows
I mean, this battle makes sense. Undyne did say in the original Undertale that she would cross the barrier and beat you up for your crimes. Papyrus said he wanted to come with her, too.
Again, most stacked genocide route *ever.* Also. I think, with this songs release, you’ve made *history.* Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty dang sure this is the first time _anyone_ has ever made a full scale au with a post barrier broken encounter. Pretty much every au I can think of sticks within the same boundaries as the actual game, never having anything besides an ending cutscene happen outside the mountain.
I just realized mm's genoroute is in some way the opposite of ut's: UT's is boring because of the grinding, and how theres little to no new content MM's goes for a different approach: It's unfun because of all the monsters going bonkers on you; Even once per area some regular monsters will have the BALLS to jump you. Theres SO much new content to the point where after this fight youll be praying that its over. It just keeps tricking you into thinking its over and hits you in the gut again. AND THATS NOT EVEN MENTIONING KARMIC SANS; A MONSTER & HUMAN "FUSION" ON WATERFALL. MIDWAY THROUGH THE GENOROUTE.
I know that it's not the case here, but I remember mistakenly theorizing that "Megalovania swaps with BAATH" and here, in a final genocide fight, battle against a true hero is one of the central motifs. And it makes me smile
honestly i feel like if this fight were to be amped up at all, since it IS a surface fight, you could realistically given papyrus and undyne a human soul to defeat and merge with in order to actually take on frisk. after all, if frisk was able to beat one monster with a human soul, then SURELY they won't be able to beat two with a human soul, right? outside of that, i love the concept of this entire AU and this geno route is no exception. i do think the song for this fight is a bit too upbeat for the situation; sure, monsters have finally reached the surface, but at what cost? hundreds of lives were lost in the process and the child that killed them all is still donning their dust-stained sweater through it all. SOMEBODY has to serve some justice and put them in their place. so making this song feel more invigorating kind of doesn't give this song enough of a climactic feeling as some of the other fight themes have, imo
@@NeuroPean-df3oh actually its also a really smart name bc "deadly terror" could be referring to either frisk (the murderer) or undyne and papyrus (the revengeance crew)
At this point, I feel that Frisk will not suffer any consequences for their actions or lies against the monsterkind. The saddest thing is that even if Undyne and Papyrus win here, the rest of the humans will eliminate the remaining monsters and it's all over.
@@mathcookie8224 Maybe if Undyne or Papyrus absorbed a human soul they would have a chance, but at this point where the monsters are about to disappear for the humans, the hope is lost.
I did think of this idea where Undyne realizes later into the fight that she could take some human souls to strengthen her and Papyrus which would eventually lead to twisted take on Undyne’s fight in pacifist. Except you can’t get Undyne to win or stand down. You can’t even reach out to the human souls since you’ve presumably never thought to ACT. Eventually, you lose and Undyne warps reality ala Omega Flowey to undo your actions, etc. with not even the option to exchange your soul and get a tainted ending
Not really. If Papyrus and Undyne somehow manage to defeat Frisk, Undyne can absorb their soul. With her newfound power, she can easily kill a few more humans. It only takes 7 to become a god. That's why humans locked monsterkind underground in the first place.
@@ThorumsuGood point. I forgot about that possibility. It's established that a monster with one human SOUL could easily kill humans if they're actually trying, so yeah, I suppose this fight actually does matter.
For some reason, my comment ended up in the Pacifist area, so i'll repeat it here. " Surprised they even managed to knock out all the humans, given how they were specifically put there to protect it. Guess Undyne is just cracked like that. "
*(a human says: *I saw right past that bold faced lie) *I heard they tortured that child) *They're the ones who harmed frisk, huh?) Leave more *A human whispered
As much as i think them going straight for frisk even when being shown capable of knocking out multiple, maybe even armed humans, is a little silly, i do get the choice, y'know, to make the battle actually possible. This is for sure a good inclusion though!! I was super confused about papyrus and undyne.
i might be onto literally fucking nothing, but i think the genocide routes of undertale and monster mix reflect who’s ruling their respective kingdoms. in base undertale, the genocide route is a drag that only has 2 real points of interest. its very slow and boring. however, when papyrus is ruling the underground, the genocide route is way more intense and interesting with more exclusive fights that aren’t just nothingburgers. asgore is - and there’s no nicer way to put it - a coward. and that’s reflected in the genocide route - very few monsters actually fight you. they’re running away, evacuating. however, when papyrus is ruling, everyone stacks on top of you to try and kill you as fast as possible. they put on a brave face and fight, much like papyrus in the genocide route. …well, the “brave face” part anyways. just found it interesting and wanted to point it out.
Asgore wasn't even aware that someone was committing mass genocide. It's less him being a coward and more him being a dum dum who can't use a phone. It's funny, because he could have avenged his kingdom by absorbing 6 souls if he just looked at his phone to see Alphys' message.
@@owlkmirrorWell, it's also partly Muffet's fault for not letting Alphys pass to inform Asgore and shut down hotland's entrance. Even though that wouldn't even be needed if Asgore just looked at his phone during genocide. Monster Mix's monsterkind fights back more because Chara runs to inform everyone as soon as you start the route in the ruins. This gives people enough time to prepare to kick Frisk's backside to last week.
@dashingtoadie Hey can I say this why do I see and hear this happening as a way to interrupt some credits sequence like [CONGRATULATIONS you got the "EVIL ENDING!" ] But as the Credits Roll they just stop suddenly after like your description says "Hear Screams that seems to get Louder and Louder" like one of the best Twist to a Bad Endings you can get honestly LMAO 🤣🤣 🤣 😂😂😂
@@dashingtoadieI mean, this battle makes sense. Undyne did say in the original Undertale that she would cross the barrier and beat you up for your crimes. Papyrus said he wanted to come with her, too.
the way i think this fight goes is that on the first turn, you either hit undyne or she takes the hit meant for papyrus. either way, she goes down. with a higher lv and no armor, she's cut all the way in half. but she's stronger, too, and she reforms as undyne the undying, talking all the while for everyone to hear about what actually happened. how there was only one way monsterkind could be free, but you mercilessly decimated their population, and for what? revenge? the thrill? either way, the jig is up, and more people leave to try and stop the ones that had already left. during the real fight, papyrus dodges all attacks, undyne takes even longer to kill than the undertale undying fight, and staying too close to the edges of the box for too long leads to the humans still around taking potshots at you, somewhat paralleling the help you get in the true pacifist undyne fight. eventually you kill undyne, and in distress papyrus leaves himself open, but you can't just mow your way throw the entire crowd, so you run, eventually coming to a stop somewhere suitably cold and damp. congratulations, you went to look for your friends, and now you're the most alone you've ever been. and it's all your fault. there's also a "betrayal" kill, where you either act (in this case literally) or continuously spare, keeping up the charade of desperately defending yourself against the scary monsters. the humans still around quickly turn on undyne and papyrus, and more people leave to join the ones that had already left. the text then goes into excruciating detail about how every last monster was hunted down, from the littlest of froggits to even the ghosts, so distressed/emotional that they couldn't hide without merging with whatever they tried to pass through, how frisk, the real monster, is lauded as a hero for their murders. congratulations, monsterkind is gone, and for good this time. and it's all your fault.
W H A T The route isn't over?!? The mus_zzz replacement played, Frisk left the underground, and yet there's still another fight?! Woah. It would be a shame if Frisk, uh, happened to have seven human SOULs' worth of power at the moment and completely annihilated these two with godlike power... (and if you want to argue "weren't the seven SOULs destroyed after being used on the Barrier?" - if that's how it worked, then the "eradicate humanity" part of canon Asgore's plan would never have been made. The SOULs aren't seen again after canon Pacifist because Asriel deliberately released them, presumably they'd still be around otherwise) Also, what's Frisk's next move after winning this fight? Do they have a family to return to? Do they just pretend all this never happened? Do they become a serial killer on the surface? The fact they just retreat from the mountain after lying to the other humans implies they don't intend to stick around the town near the mountain, so where are they headed? (Assuming them becoming LV 21 or something doesn't immediately lead to the world being destroyed - it seems this Merciless Frisk, like Vengeance Clover from Yellow, is intent on wiping out monsterkind but not on destroying the world, though)
I'm not going to directly argue that the seven SOULs were destroyed after being used on the barrier, but I think there's a difference in directly using the souls and absorbing them and harnessing their power to break the barrier.
Fair enough. I guess if we're going with the "Frisk is a human and thus can't absorb human SOULs, but they can make them use their power to break the Barrier" interpretation, then sure.
You could have Frisk absorb the souls and so Undyne could also have some souls and then there would be a fight with like 400 HP and basically impossible attacks. edit: wait human cant absorb human soul nvm
In my opinion, I think he should personally be facing more towards the human because he just looks weird this way Or moved to be on the right position and not the left
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A surface battle is very unique. It does makes sense too, Undyne would follow you to the ends of the earth.
Even though humans are way stronger than monsters, I can see them defeating a few unsuspecting humans with their guard down.
The explanation of "they are too focused on finding Frisk" is good enough to justify Undyne not absorbing the other humans SOULs.
The music itself is great as always.
Fair
*Papyrus' sprite's cape is waving in the wind.
*Oh god Papyrus' sprite is moving.
I love this.
you're dead here
uh oh.
When he tries to kill even just a little... well... you can say that he's more powerful than me... and you all know my stats
@@Asr1el_Driipurr technicly you don't even win in defense, you only win in attack in the game, still impressive
You know you're done for when Papyrus of all monsters wants you dead.
Fr
Real
"Even Papyrus sees no more redeeming qualities in you."
This is when the sh▪︎t gets real.
That's when papyrus' sprite starts moving
That's when Papyrus actually uses his special attack.
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Well
That's when he won't be oblivious to that mut
And my god a blaster will be hard when there also tridents
I love how the soundtrack turned out for Monster Mix's murder route. But with all the extra tracks I realize how brutal this murder route will be compared to other AUs. I don't even want to imagine what a hardmode would look like lol
I definitely like this track, even if I’m a bit bummed that Undyne didn’t think to kill any humans to take their souls
I did think of an idea where later in the fight Undyne thought to take a human soul. Maybe some humans try come to your aid only to get killed by Undyne. Eventually it leads into leading to a twisted take on her fight in Pacifist where the objective is to try and survive only you’re prolonging the inevitable.
Perhaps during the equivalent of saving the lost souls, you try to reach out to the human souls only for Undyne to have convinced them that you were the real villain all along, making them turn their back on you. Not helped by the fact that you’ve only been killing in this run and perhaps you don’t know how to act. Perhaps after an 8th soul, Undyne pulls an Omega Flowey, warps reality, undoing your actions, with not even an option to reset and get the equivalent of a tainted pacifist ending. Kinda like a more bombastic version of what Chara does at the end of Genocide in Undertale proper.
That or any remaining monsters finish off the knocked out humans and take their souls leading to Undyne and Papyrus getting back up.
That's... actually a good concept of what this battle would be like
While Papyrus and Undyne were too busy to think of absorbing a human soul, you know who isn't and hasn't appeared in the geno route of monster mix at all?
T H E D O G
Yeah, there's a little to no chance of the annoying dog appearing, but, it would make a lot of sense and would be very very cool to have to fight the omega flowey replacement in geno instead of them only dying like normal UT
Also, a point could be made that the dog was just goofing around and had no ill intentions in the neutral route, and to that, I counterpoint that now the dog has a clear reason to go against you, and I think that they could kill a single human, absorb a soul, become stronger, kill more, become more stronger, kill even more, do this a few times and turn into literally a god
While it would be boring and stacked to have two fights like this one after another, like another commenter pointed, that is what the route is trying to be, a very stacked and difficult game to the point of it becoming boring like Undertale does, and oh boy having to fight literal god would be so cool and a very likely never seen before fight against a monster that has absorbed 7 or more souls (and it's told in og UT that if a monster absorbed 7 souls, they become practically unbeatable)
Also I just want to see the annoying dog appear in the geno route
it would have been SO epic
When everything seemed lost, it arrives, the dog, with 7 human souls, they could be from Frisk's friends and Chara's soul or simply the souls he got from some random humans with the help of other monsters
And with 7 human souls the dog has become GOD
Then he would burst into the middle of the battle, Undyne would be smiling and laughing at what was happening and Papyrus would be dumbfounded watching in amazement as that annoying dog that always bothers him has become his salvation
Then, H E L L for us, Impossible attacks, torture, games that the dog invents, EVERYTHING
Then Undyne and Papyrus would ACT and talk with him to convince him to DESTROY YOU, and then that happens, we die and since the dog has the 7 souls, his determination is greater than ours, so our death is permanent
Boom, good ending for the monsters
The aftermath of frisk's líes remains unknown
Maybe the monsters could convince the humans that Frisk lied? They would have the support of frisk friends' souls
Maybe a new war will begin?
Maybe now everyone will serve their new god, the dog?
Who knows
Finally, an ending, It bothered me a lot that there was so much chaos and Undyne wasn't there
I mean, this battle makes sense. Undyne did say in the original Undertale that she would cross the barrier and beat you up for your crimes. Papyrus said he wanted to come with her, too.
I'm sorry, but I'm finding the idea of the monsters chasing you across the surface for revenge to be extremely funny.
that is basicly betrayed undyne ending,
I think it’s safe to say Frisk is in for one hell of a bad time in this route
you know i was thinking "why doesnt undyne have a genocide fight if shes still alive" and well that explains it
Again, most stacked genocide route *ever.*
Also. I think, with this songs release, you’ve made *history.* Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty dang sure this is the first time _anyone_ has ever made a full scale au with a post barrier broken encounter.
Pretty much every au I can think of sticks within the same boundaries as the actual game, never having anything besides an ending cutscene happen outside the mountain.
I mean theres inverted fate.
@@pineappleudh6561 there’s a post barrier broken encounter in inverted fate?
@@LoganV3535The entire final two arcs of Inverted Fate take place after the barrier is broken
@@mathcookie8224 woah! Man… I need to catch up then. It’s… admittedly been a while since I last checked in on it.
@@LoganV3535
Not directly on the surface (its complicated) but yes there's several!
I just realized mm's genoroute is in some way the opposite of ut's: UT's is boring because of the grinding, and how theres little to no new content
MM's goes for a different approach: It's unfun because of all the monsters going bonkers on you; Even once per area some regular monsters will have the BALLS to jump you. Theres SO much new content to the point where after this fight youll be praying that its over. It just keeps tricking you into thinking its over and hits you in the gut again. AND THATS NOT EVEN MENTIONING KARMIC SANS; A MONSTER & HUMAN "FUSION" ON WATERFALL. MIDWAY THROUGH THE GENOROUTE.
A battle where papyrus no longer see redeeming qualities in you would probably take SO many resets to beat
I imagine this as a survival fight where you’re dead no matter what and you just have to keep surviving.
Imagine papyrus and undyne coming in and then frisk pulls up with surface guns
I know that it's not the case here, but I remember mistakenly theorizing that "Megalovania swaps with BAATH" and here, in a final genocide fight, battle against a true hero is one of the central motifs. And it makes me smile
Omg Spear of Justice leitmotif in Monster Mix
Omg Dating Tense leitmotif in Monster Mix and it's at the ending
Combining the blue and green soul mechanics would be a nightmare. not that you dont deserve it after all you do in this route.
I actually had this idea of a name for a genocide theme that included Papyrus- but this is utterly sick ! An Undyne and Paps tag team is great
honestly i feel like if this fight were to be amped up at all, since it IS a surface fight, you could realistically given papyrus and undyne a human soul to defeat and merge with in order to actually take on frisk. after all, if frisk was able to beat one monster with a human soul, then SURELY they won't be able to beat two with a human soul, right?
outside of that, i love the concept of this entire AU and this geno route is no exception. i do think the song for this fight is a bit too upbeat for the situation; sure, monsters have finally reached the surface, but at what cost? hundreds of lives were lost in the process and the child that killed them all is still donning their dust-stained sweater through it all. SOMEBODY has to serve some justice and put them in their place. so making this song feel more invigorating kind of doesn't give this song enough of a climactic feeling as some of the other fight themes have, imo
i just realized;
Does DEADLY TERROR refer to the gauntlet of deadly terror in base UT? I'd assume so, neat reference for song name!
i rly like it bc it's in a very goofy context in UT but here it is very serious and works surprisingly well
I'm pretty that was the reference they were going for since Papyrus is in it
@@NeuroPean-df3oh actually its also a really smart name bc "deadly terror" could be referring to either frisk (the murderer) or undyne and papyrus (the revengeance crew)
At this point, I feel that Frisk will not suffer any consequences for their actions or lies against the monsterkind.
The saddest thing is that even if Undyne and Papyrus win here, the rest of the humans will eliminate the remaining monsters and it's all over.
Yeah, the moment Frisk got more humans on their side, any remaining monsters were as good as dead.
@@mathcookie8224 Maybe if Undyne or Papyrus absorbed a human soul they would have a chance, but at this point where the monsters are about to disappear for the humans, the hope is lost.
I did think of this idea where Undyne realizes later into the fight that she could take some human souls to strengthen her and Papyrus which would eventually lead to twisted take on Undyne’s fight in pacifist. Except you can’t get Undyne to win or stand down. You can’t even reach out to the human souls since you’ve presumably never thought to ACT.
Eventually, you lose and Undyne warps reality ala Omega Flowey to undo your actions, etc. with not even the option to exchange your soul and get a tainted ending
Not really. If Papyrus and Undyne somehow manage to defeat Frisk, Undyne can absorb their soul.
With her newfound power, she can easily kill a few more humans. It only takes 7 to become a god. That's why humans locked monsterkind underground in the first place.
@@ThorumsuGood point. I forgot about that possibility. It's established that a monster with one human SOUL could easily kill humans if they're actually trying, so yeah, I suppose this fight actually does matter.
me when the would-be queen and skeleton king jump me on the surface
Only now do I realize that the name is a reference to the gauntlet of deadly terror
For some reason, my comment ended up in the Pacifist area, so i'll repeat it here.
" Surprised they even managed to knock out all the humans, given how they were specifically put there to protect it. Guess Undyne is just cracked like that. "
*(a human says:
*I saw right past that bold faced lie)
*I heard they tortured that child)
*They're the ones who harmed frisk, huh?)
Leave more *A human whispered
Sounds like a pokemon game's final battle theme
As much as i think them going straight for frisk even when being shown capable of knocking out multiple, maybe even armed humans, is a little silly, i do get the choice, y'know, to make the battle actually possible. This is for sure a good inclusion though!! I was super confused about papyrus and undyne.
i might be onto literally fucking nothing, but i think the genocide routes of undertale and monster mix reflect who’s ruling their respective kingdoms.
in base undertale, the genocide route is a drag that only has 2 real points of interest. its very slow and boring. however, when papyrus is ruling the underground, the genocide route is way more intense and interesting with more exclusive fights that aren’t just nothingburgers.
asgore is - and there’s no nicer way to put it - a coward. and that’s reflected in the genocide route - very few monsters actually fight you. they’re running away, evacuating.
however, when papyrus is ruling, everyone stacks on top of you to try and kill you as fast as possible. they put on a brave face and fight, much like papyrus in the genocide route. …well, the “brave face” part anyways.
just found it interesting and wanted to point it out.
Asgore wasn't even aware that someone was committing mass genocide. It's less him being a coward and more him being a dum dum who can't use a phone.
It's funny, because he could have avenged his kingdom by absorbing 6 souls if he just looked at his phone to see Alphys' message.
@@owlkmirrorWell, it's also partly Muffet's fault for not letting Alphys pass to inform Asgore and shut down hotland's entrance.
Even though that wouldn't even be needed if Asgore just looked at his phone during genocide.
Monster Mix's monsterkind fights back more because Chara runs to inform everyone as soon as you start the route in the ruins.
This gives people enough time to prepare to kick Frisk's backside to last week.
insane how much muffet contributes to genocide even being possible
@@Thorumsu Not only muffet, but Catty and Bratty top wasting a lot of time using pens
AMAZING CONCEPT
If Frisk manages to win this they are officially them.
Finally. The REAL "Megalo."
Welp at this point, frisk is freaking dead
theyre literally lv 20 i think theyll be fine
HUMAN FOR THE MANY LIVES LOST AT YOU HANDS!
*FOR ALL OUR HEARTS!
FOR ALL OUR SOULS
*I,UNDYNE
I, THE GREAT PAPYRUS
SHALL STRIKE YOU DOWN!
Holy shit thick Undyne got me acting determined
Hurt 'em with kindness, hurt 'em with... integrity?
Integrity can be twisted in various ways, after all it is simply sticking to our principles, you could say that many villains have integrity
@dashingtoadie Hey can I say this why do I see and hear this happening as a way to interrupt some credits sequence like
[CONGRATULATIONS you got the "EVIL ENDING!" ]
But as the Credits Roll they just stop suddenly after like your description says "Hear Screams that seems to get Louder and Louder" like one of the best Twist to a Bad Endings you can get honestly LMAO 🤣🤣 🤣 😂😂😂
oh this is rad
Wait so is the “kill their own kind” in the description referring to chara or does frisk try to kill the humans on the surface or something
Thaaat was about Chara
@@dashingtoadieokie dokie!
@@dashingtoadieI mean, this battle makes sense. Undyne did say in the original Undertale that she would cross the barrier and beat you up for your crimes. Papyrus said he wanted to come with her, too.
the dog ate the souls after the barrier was broken actually
they better win dawg😭
They as in Frisk
Or they as in thoese two
@@QuasarBuasarEeveeTheUziFanthey as in papyrus and undyne, but they still lost
the way i think this fight goes is that on the first turn, you either hit undyne or she takes the hit meant for papyrus. either way, she goes down. with a higher lv and no armor, she's cut all the way in half. but she's stronger, too, and she reforms as undyne the undying, talking all the while for everyone to hear about what actually happened. how there was only one way monsterkind could be free, but you mercilessly decimated their population, and for what? revenge? the thrill? either way, the jig is up, and more people leave to try and stop the ones that had already left. during the real fight, papyrus dodges all attacks, undyne takes even longer to kill than the undertale undying fight, and staying too close to the edges of the box for too long leads to the humans still around taking potshots at you, somewhat paralleling the help you get in the true pacifist undyne fight. eventually you kill undyne, and in distress papyrus leaves himself open, but you can't just mow your way throw the entire crowd, so you run, eventually coming to a stop somewhere suitably cold and damp. congratulations, you went to look for your friends, and now you're the most alone you've ever been. and it's all your fault.
there's also a "betrayal" kill, where you either act (in this case literally) or continuously spare, keeping up the charade of desperately defending yourself against the scary monsters. the humans still around quickly turn on undyne and papyrus, and more people leave to join the ones that had already left. the text then goes into excruciating detail about how every last monster was hunted down, from the littlest of froggits to even the ghosts, so distressed/emotional that they couldn't hide without merging with whatever they tried to pass through, how frisk, the real monster, is lauded as a hero for their murders. congratulations, monsterkind is gone, and for good this time. and it's all your fault.
* Heroes stand in your way.
Dude frisk is absurd in this au. Winning a 2v1 against undyne and a papyrus who isnt holding back anymore? Frisk is THEM.
I feel like beating the Sans/Chara fusion was more impressive than this, given this is normal Undyne, not an Undying form.
frisk is literally lv 20 i think theyll be fine
W H A T
The route isn't over?!? The mus_zzz replacement played, Frisk left the underground, and yet there's still another fight?! Woah.
It would be a shame if Frisk, uh, happened to have seven human SOULs' worth of power at the moment and completely annihilated these two with godlike power... (and if you want to argue "weren't the seven SOULs destroyed after being used on the Barrier?" - if that's how it worked, then the "eradicate humanity" part of canon Asgore's plan would never have been made. The SOULs aren't seen again after canon Pacifist because Asriel deliberately released them, presumably they'd still be around otherwise)
Also, what's Frisk's next move after winning this fight? Do they have a family to return to? Do they just pretend all this never happened? Do they become a serial killer on the surface? The fact they just retreat from the mountain after lying to the other humans implies they don't intend to stick around the town near the mountain, so where are they headed? (Assuming them becoming LV 21 or something doesn't immediately lead to the world being destroyed - it seems this Merciless Frisk, like Vengeance Clover from Yellow, is intent on wiping out monsterkind but not on destroying the world, though)
I'm not going to directly argue that the seven SOULs were destroyed after being used on the barrier, but I think there's a difference in directly using the souls and absorbing them and harnessing their power to break the barrier.
Fair enough. I guess if we're going with the "Frisk is a human and thus can't absorb human SOULs, but they can make them use their power to break the Barrier" interpretation, then sure.
* DETERMINATION flows through your veins.
You could have Frisk absorb the souls and so Undyne could also have some souls and then there would be a fight with like 400 HP and basically impossible attacks.
edit: wait human cant absorb human soul nvm
God I just want them to win.
In my opinion, I think he should personally be facing more towards the human because he just looks weird this way
Or moved to be on the right position and not the left
Would frisk be at LV 19, 20, or 21 here?
LV20
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