I Killed the Stafford Gambit
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Eric is the type of guy to absolutely crush someone's soul, and then be like "So, that was an interesting game"
Yeah, he shows astonishingly little emotion over games of any kind. Personally im ready to put my foot through a wall after 15% of my games
If he were a Star Trek character, he'd definitely be Mr. Spock, or perhaps Data.
“Opponent has 6 seconds left.”
I feel like chess beginners/people who got into chess thru Covid-era streamers ask things like "Why don't master-level players use interesting/unusual lines like Stafford Gambit in tournament?" This video is a perfect clinic on why masters-level play is "boring:" a better player will carefully and accurately keep the 1 pawn advantage and turn a gambit into a noose
The issue with so many gambits is they're just too well known. No GM is going to be caught off guard by one, but at the same time GMs understand this and it's why you will sometimes see novelties at the very top level rather than playing known lines too deeply. There was a video a little while back where Hikaru was giving a recap of one of his games against another GM and he pointed out that the problem with playing against an opponent's prep is that you aren't really playing against them, you're playing against Stockfish, so it's in his interest to get them out of their prep as quickly as possible. The hard part is finding a way to do this without making a bad move, since the whole point of opening theory is that it's just a big catalogue of all the good moves you could make in a common position.
Yeah a lot of people use the drawishness of post-computer era chess as an argument against Carlsen being the GOAT (or if you're Ben Finegold, even being in the top 5 of all time). Why isn't he going 9/9 in tournaments like Fischer did? Because Carlsen is playing against opponents who can download every tournament game he's ever played and have their 3500-rated second find refutations to every speculative move and 30-move lines to achieve a dead drawn endgame against every mainline. Today's top players need to thread the needle between drawn mainlines and losing novelties to find a narrow patch of viable but unknown ground, which will immediately afterwards be swallowed up by Stockfish and become unusable.
@@dm9910 i happen to agree with Finegold (and others) that Carlsen ISN'T the goat, but everything you're saying here is still quite apt regardless.
I think that’s an over generalization. Many gambits DO equalize, they just don’t give winning chances with best play.
Hell, even Magnus plays the benko and the marshal is his main weapon Vs e4
@@PiquantPanI think it it's justifiable, even obvious, that Carlsen isn't the GOAT if your definition of GOAT is like "the best compared to their contemporaries" rather than "the best". If your definition is "the best" and Carlsen isn't even in your top 5 then you're smoking crack
Imagine having the nerves to play the very gambit Eric excelled at and popularized against him.
“You dare use my own spells against me?”
@@KKH808followed by a chuckle and "you have no power here"
That's such a skill to have. Getting an advantage and then very slowly grinding down the opponent. Great game.
Usually when I get a winning position I slowly and methodically blunder away all my advantage 👍
50 move grind to convert a position that is already +2.3 after the first three moves. Is there a faster way, or is Stockfish just wildly over-evaluating white's position?
@@BruceHoultYou can probably find some dynamite line with the engine a few times in this game, but Eric played pretty conservatively and defended his advantage rather than press it. Eventually 1 pawns matters a lot if you keep forcing equal trades.
I remember the good old times, when no one knew how to counter the Stafford gambit...
try scotch gambit, it have so many traps and you are not losing if they know how to counter it.
@@fdaa3154This is terrible advice. Gambits teach you how to take advantage of initiative , and close out winning positions something the overwhelming majority of players below tournament level struggle with. Fantastic skill to learn early into development. Not to mention if you wait until you’re experienced you’re never going to take advantage of the nice tricks and cheap wins they offer at lower levels.
@@fdaa3154 They are bad on engines. People are not engines. That’s the whole point of playing chess. Gambits give you interesting positions. Learning 20 lines of depth of the Spanish is pointless if you don’t know how to push an advantage, which is exactly what gambits teach you. Gambits have disappeared from top level play in classical because SuperGMs know how to refute them. They’re still used in blitz and rapid all of the time. Absolutely awful advice to tell people to learn the same lines super gms play since 99% of people don’t even comprehend how to take advantage of an inaccuracy.
@@fdaa3154 No it won’t. The whole point of a gambit is to gain tempo. Learning how to use tempo to win is crucial, and gambits are a fantastic way to make sure you get one each game. No one’s saying you have to use them in every game, or even use them at all in tournaments, but the overwhelming majority of games played are online now, and if you’re serious enough at chess to think you’d benefit from only playing the main theory lines you should be viewing online as practise anyways.
@@fdaa3154There are many 'sound' gambits, which mean the initiative the gambit gives is so huge that opponent should give some material back to defend efficiently.
Gambit works.
Hi Eric - just a bit of history on the opening. It was invented by Joseph Stafford an American man. Interestingly the surname 'Stafford' means of Staffordshire, a county of England (next one up from me) and more precisely named after the principle town of Staffordshire - Stafford, a market town famous for cloth and wool trade.
Great content as ever and keep up the great work!
My family came here on the Mayflower from Bradford. I once owned a staffordshire pit. That's all, Good Day M8
Not losing a single pawn against the stafford when there are so many sacrifice lines. Hats off, well played game!
Not even losing a single pawn, is a brutally calm refutation. Sensei.
Since Eric made the Stafford Gambit one of the most (in)famous opening gambits among internet chess players, almost no one falls for it anymore. It is useless to play Stafford nowadays since even 1500s know their ways around it. However without Eric we wouldn't even have stumbled upon this opening in the first place. So Eric both simultaneously killed it while at the same time giving it new life.
Whenever I catch Eric play it, he regularly beats even titled players with stafford, so yeah, there is absolutely no shot that 1500s have any idea how to defuse it.
complete lies. 1500s don't know how to stop it neither do 2000+ rated players. if you think they do it's because you're bad at playing the opening.
I have played Stafford in both Bullet and Rapid over on lichess (1200 rapid) and I still walk over most people, even upwards of 1300.
He's giving heart massage to a man he beat over the head with a fish.
@@connorhormaneven a broken clock is right twice a day my man
This feels sort of familiar, I remember feeling a twinge or two of guilt when I took on the Englund Gambit (which used to be one of my pet lines) with White and went into the critical line ending in 7.Rb1 Qa3 8.Nd5, catching Black's king in the centre. But there was to be no silver lining for me, as I misplayed the resulting "plus 2" positions and eventually lost...
The title had me unreasonably worried
Oh no! My gambit!
A solid masterpiece; slowly and methodically killing your opponent, Petrosian would be proud.
This was such a slow burn. Brilliant game.
I don't think I've ever seen an endgame where one side still had all 8 pawns. That has to be Rosen Prize in itself.
A 2000 trying to defeat Eric Rosen using the Stafford Gambit. You can't make this stuff up!
Love the thumbnail. Super fun content as always
Can we just talk about erics 99% accuracy
Playing Stafford against Eric is like trying to bluff Doyle Brunson.
The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house.
"The smiley face mate!" Lol, Eric has a very creative way of looking at chess positions.
My guy raised the Stafford gambit from obscurity and smothered it back to it's grave, now one with the discount Stafford traxler hybrid busch gass gambit
Watching you play on the receiving end of the Stafford is alwys pleasant. Thanks for your uploads, I enjoy them very much.
After 31.f4, black has Bh5, x-ray vision on the rooks
Yeah, was f4 a blunder? I don't see a way not to lose the exchange after Bh5
0:21 STAFFORD GAMBIT TIME
Woah on move 31 the opponent had Bh5, winning the exchange.
I saw that too!!
I love your advice, you sound very relaxed, and you never use inappropriate language for children to hear.
You're making ends meet by killing your bread and butter lol
How to refute a stafford gambit? get a smiley mate. Everytime I come to this channel its so wholesome. I wanna play chess like that
So good at involving the king before the endgame starts
Im 1900 on lichess and I play the stafford gambit EVERY TIME i have a chance to play it becuase of you :)
even if Im in a dead lost position, sometimes you get sick games from it
They dared to use your own spells against you...
51 moves without losing a pawn.
That's what I look for in a Stafford Gambit: super slow, solid gradual improvement. 🤣🤣🤣
I really like 4.d4 against the Stafford. With accurate play white just gets a much better position without any real attacking chances for black in all lines. Also the most common reply 4... Nxe4 almost loses by force after 5.Qe2.
Ooh would love some evans gambit games
Stafford Gambit is a funny way to spell the Rosen Gambit
The Stafford gambit is dead. Long live the Stafford gambit.
At 13:55, the move F5 would not necessarily be a blunder. If black takes F5, you follow up with E5, and after BxD3, xD6, RxE3, you would play d7 with no defense against D8D. Actually BxF5 loses a piece.
Now I see that there's stil D7 for the Bisschop to retreat to, but after RDE1 white still has a favourable position.
Oh no, my Stafford!
oh no my stafford
Petition to rename the dog breed to Rosenshire terrier and the city to Rosen-upon-Avon
the town is STRATFORD-upon-Avon, not Stafford
@@PiquantPan They should learn chess and finally correct that typo!
@@al97093 i think "Birthplace of Shakespeare" is doing just fine for them at present
At 10:42 e5 wins you a knight and a bishop in exchange for a bishop and a pawn, no?
No, I'm not sure what you're seeing. White gives up a pawn with e5. Blacks bishop would be defended by their queen
Could black win an exchange with 31. ... Bh5 ?
Black played a great game.
Every time I see "Stafford Gambit", I don't even need to guess who the content creator was.. lmao.
nice one back there
C4 instead of a4 was better move I believe getting the push in early to entice a blunder…
I think you blundered a skewer on your rooks when offering a queen trade, but your opponent didn't see it. I loved the game anyway
That game looked really solid
f3 is what i play, you did be2 line. rev of white sac for this, being white here, you have one move up in this line. The line, 1. e4 e5 2. nf3 nf6 3. bc4 nxp 4 .0-0 f6 5. nh4 g6....
I'm no chess player myself so probably that's why I can't understand how you can say you killed the Stafford Gambit by winning a game that was almost 50 moves. Like, what do these endgame positions even have in common with the opening…
This yr we're hitting 1M
watching and you went live on twitch~!
After f4 theres bh5! And all of a sudden the game gets hard
When it’s the king of Stafford Gambit, doesn’t matter if he’s black or white
Danya killed the Stafford a years ago
I don’t play often, but when I play black I always play the Stafford. (Sadly most Whites avoid going into the stafford)
please keep up the thumbnail style
It's not surprising that you killed it.
What's surprising is that they were crazy enough to *play it against you.*
With cojones that big, I don't know how he sits down.
bro, cajones means drawers hahaha, you mean cojones xd
@@nacho__063
Well, we all typo sometimes. Easily fixed, though. Thanks. 🤷♂️
@@SevenTheJester yea, just so you knew the typo had meaning too
@@nacho__063
Yeah, I would imagine that's why my autocorrect changed it. 🤣
But again, thanks.
13:16 - 31. f4 is a blunder. 31... Bh5 takes a quallity.
this is what's called filicide
Who in their right mind would play the Stafford against you?
at 13:39 why not Bh5?
16:30 nice try, but after g5 fxg6 is forced :)
34 seconds ago on an eric rosen vid lets go
I find this fan base of the Stafford Gambit so weird..
It might work here and there in fast time controls, but literally everyone who plays in classical tournaments should have easy play with it.
One tournament I was in, I played in the lowest bracket where people had 800-1200 National Elo, I got shown a game where somebody played against the Stafford for the first time.
It seemed sooo comfortable for white. You just play solid and be happy about your two center pawns.
Like people who hype up the Stafford probably never played them in long time controls where you can think 15 minutes per turn in critical positions.
Having such a positional weakness as black from turn 3 onwoards must be so exhausting.
You basically gave up the center and now have to be on the defense for the next 3 hours. Seems just horrid
Typical 22. O-O-O
That game was boring - I want to see high risk games.
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First Comment !!! Nice you nailed it sir 👌👍 🏆🏅
1st❤
You dare use my own spell against me, Potter?
Rest in pieces hahaahahah
2:37 yea and i don't like tou anymore
I used to win online tournaments with stafford
Until
You analysed it , brought it in the mainstream😅
Super slow and solid is not what a Stafford Gambit player wants to see as a response. 😅
„I was preparing the Smiley Mate“ 😂