For those who are surprised Lumine is a girl, consider these things: -Lumine is Latin for "Light" -Lumine's "Paradise Lost" is a reference to Lucifer -Both Lucifer and Lumine share the first two letters of their name, and Lucifer was associated with Heaven for a time before revolting. He was also very beautiful -Lumine's androgynous appearance is meant to reference Lucifer or at least represent the gender-neutral nature of angels (as they are supposed to look neither male or female)
(John 11:25-26) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" Repent and turn to Christ Jesus before it is too late. For after this comes the JUDGMENT. Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life. (John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Sigma is a better villain though and the true enemy. Lumine was just a new gen reploid acting like a maverick "at will" as he said, but in reality the whole maverick thing is Sigma's doing so what he was doing is what Sigma would have done so...
(John 11:25-26) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" Repent and turn to Christ Jesus before it is too late. For after this comes the JUDGMENT. Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life. (John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
When i play x8 in the final battle and see sigma i say "Ok, sigma again is the final boss" when i fought lumine was a big WTF???? indeed was a nice surprise
+000mjd But it sucked, Sigma is the better villian and best villian of the MM universe. No villian has accomplished as much as him. So far, Sigma was the only maverick to almost wipe out the entire human race. Even in future games they are still talking about him. Lumine was just a "one time wonder" a Reploid similar in design to that of the zero series. Nothing too special.
Orochimaru sama i agree Sigma is the best Villain in all megaman series but after Fight him 9 games always like the final Boss become boring, dont care how good was the story you know you Will end against Sigma again, again and again, was Nice see him like a puppet this time, and Lumine was a good choice to take the place like the new antagonist
000mjd agreed, the only thing that killed Lumine is that at the very end, he was also a puppet of Sigma's design as well. The whole "going maverick at will" was literally fulfilling what Sigma wanted to do. The Sigma virus continued until MMZ. So it was kinda of a waste to have Lumine as the final boss and don't really achieve anything that might impact in future games, that's why my sigma rant xD
Lumine being the final boss is symbolic of what Sigma has managed to accomplished. Since he managed to infect a new generation of reploids, he no longer needs to be a threat. In a way, he's created an army of himself, so now Sigma can just take a back seat and watch as things unravel.
DraceEmpressa Ok I will be honest. I looked around after you made that comment. However I cannot find the Deviantart profile of the person who made this. I fear that he/she may have removed their account. So I, unfortunately, cannot give credit.
Imo,this is the best final boss theme in the X series. The whole theme ROCKS and is just so intense yet beautiful. It really fits the final phase perfectly
That was Keiji Inafune's intention, to end it with X5. Then the team made X6 behind his back, and he had to jump in and try to salavge it. Then he got the idea for X8, so he had to make X7 as a means of introducing Axl so the audience can get to know him. X8 was one of the best, really.
*looking the wiki* Megaman StarForce 3 Release date: Japan November 13, 2008 Megaman 10 Release date: USA March 1, 2010 It's Wily... again. We agree if we pretend Rockman Xover don't exist, right?
Megaman x's Rival. A former maverick hunter who followed sigma in X1. The reason for this being his extreme jealousy for X. He returns in X3 briefly and then again in X8. He also looks suspiciously similar to Boba Fett.
Just now discovering Lumine and his theme is what inspired me to purchase the X Legacy Collection Vol 2. I bought Vol 1 two years ago, because I love X and X4. But this....man, I gotta get to this battle now!
Well the Mega Man Zero games got a little political, but I can't say I thought they kicked more ass than the X series (not dissin' the games, I did fairly enjoy them). I think the closest thing we had to going beyond the concept of good vs. Evil in the X series was the whole "evolution" thing that the new-age reploids introduced in X8, which did make me think more about mankind and technology than the concept of reploids ever did. What if X9 introduced NEEDING to break the 1st rule of robotics?
Zero already broke the 1st rule, killing doctor Weil, who was a human in fact, it seems there's a Zeroth rule, which states it's right to kill one human if doing it will be better for a great number of humans
He means Sera from Megaman Legends 2. Which is currently the final game in the timeline. Legends takes place thousands and thousands of years after the Zero series.
Sigma didn't win here. He thought he had won because the uprising was caused by his DNA in the new-gen reploids' copy chips... but as was said from the start, they were the ones who used him. Lumine saw Sigma as a stepping stone, a means to an end, and the symbolism is right there before his fight - he steps on and crushes Sigma's head, asserting himself as the herald of the new world. Maybe Lumine is a new Sigma. His ideology certainly seems similar, and there's that thing he did to Axl in the ending... but he is no more Sigma than he is all the other reploids in his copy chip.
Although this song is very epic, i feel like the exact context that it was in did not do the song good justice. The angel Lumine worked, but not the battlefield. Maybe it could have been something similar to the Sigma boss fight in x7 where you were on a falling platform.
Nope,Crimson Dragon.Megaman Starforce3 was possibly the last made Megaman game not sure so,actually That crazy King is the last boss.Aside from Bonus Stage Boss Sirius...
Don’t you fools get it?!? The real villain is capcom headquarteres CEO. Now go team up with phoenix wright ace attorney and fight to get megaman X9, withOUT worrying about budget, timeframe, quotasssssss. Fight
@@Evilriku13 mmx5 was supost to be the end of x series and capcom made x6 behind the creators back and he made 7 to aintroduce axle and try to save the game sreies with 8 as for 9 capcom said that they are still open to making since mm11 did so well
RetroJohnMan maybe it wasn't trully Sigma's Data what made him turn Maverick he talks about the decision being made concsiously and that "the New Generation Reploids" having the power to turn Maverick at will, not like including himself maybe he turned Maverick because of something else, like whatever attacked Axl
Me too.... Why this fckin guy leaved Capcom... Anyway, Megaman was, is and will be. My dream is to make new megaman series, and if i can reactivate megaman online. But i cant.. I only want to ask that guy which leaved capcom to aloow me to create offical game
Mike Hyoraku yea, even with improved graphics and no 3D (Learned his lesson from X7) It still isn't Megaman... But this happened last time too, so... who is to blame?
Mike Hyoraku Capcom created X6 without Inafune's knowlege, they force him to change the entire Zero Saga (replace X with copy-x ._. and so on), they continue to make more Megaman X's games even when Inafune already say that the X Saga ends in X5, he had a LOT of reasons for leaving the company. Lot of pression, lot of pain and a lot of orders to do "money" without creativity. Today he is trying to continue with he's dream making Mighty No 9 he's personal version of Megaman. Capcom already give a fuck abut Megaman (remember the international blaming to the fans maded by Capcom with Legends 3) so, if the oportunity comes, Inafune will make more Megaman games, but ONLY if Capcom give to him the IP (game product rights) because Inafune already know what Capcom is capable to do. And one more thing... "Mighty" was one of a fiew beta names for the FIRST Rockman game back in 1987. Inafune finally decided to put Rock Man because of the Rock n Roll, but in the first stages of the game production, Mighty was the name of the game and even there is the prototype design for the cover maded by Inafune. This is the main reason why he called "Mighty No9" to his new Megaman spiritual sucessor. :3
Allow me to shed some light on this, gentlemen. Have either of you played final fight? Poison, who was a hooker, was a female enemy in Japan's version of the game. Now, america doesn't like females to be A) Exposed B) Villains. So, in America, lumine/Poison are listed as males. Which explains why people think Poison is a transvestite and some think Lumine is a little fruity.
That's as blasphemous as saying Wily shouldn't be the villain of the classic series. And to be fair Gate was the main antagonist of X6. Sigma was just the final boss.
this boss took me like 2 deaths before i got its pattern down but it was a good fun/annoying boss fight the only thing that was rely annoying enough to make me cry alittle was the stage to get to this boss on the moon .-. with all the spikes every crapin everywhere
Speaking of Freiza,DBZ COPIED VILE"S ARMOR!!I mean look at the Saiyan armor and compare it to Vile don't they look similar?DragonBallZ surely did copy a idea like, Halo4 stealing some stuff from Dead Space such as:Some of the Helmet Visors.
Just putting this out there... Am I the only one who never thought Lumine sounded like a girl? I imagine something more like a preteen boy going through a voice change when I listen to him.
Can't argue with that, I also think that it's the best sigma boss theme in the entire x series, it's just something about the heavy guitar riffs, coupled with the slow pace of the song, it really gives off this strong sense of finality to the whole thing, like this is truly sigma's last stand.
![MegaMan X8 vs Sigma & Lumine [Final Stage]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oue5-vDbSK0/mqdefault.jpg)
For those who are surprised Lumine is a girl, consider these things:
-Lumine is Latin for "Light"
-Lumine's "Paradise Lost" is a reference to Lucifer
-Both Lucifer and Lumine share the first two letters of their name, and Lucifer was associated with Heaven for a time before revolting. He was also very beautiful
-Lumine's androgynous appearance is meant to reference Lucifer or at least represent the gender-neutral nature of angels (as they are supposed to look neither male or female)
Wait but Lumine isn't a girl,he's very much stated to be a boy by how Lumine is reffered to as a "He"
@@borjaarellano9966 Japanese version refers him as "she"
@@johnnywantyoudead5113 BROW, u saved my ex-gay hdjob. thankyou
Lumine isn't a female. He's a damn EMO.
Skinny wrist
Best song ever. X8 is underrated.
X8 is my favorite X game
(John 11:25-26) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
Repent and turn to Christ Jesus before it is too late. For after this comes the JUDGMENT. Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life.
(John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@@kuskus_th13 Panie, jesteś człowiekiem kultury!
So true.
I mean yeah it has some issues Hidden Chips, Spikes placed UNFAIRLY in some cases.
But it's still a good game.
X8 is my 2nd favourite megaman X game! I dont think its underrated.
Only 2nd to Megaman X6 in my opinion.
FINALLY! NOT SIGMA!
IKR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sigma is a better villain though and the true enemy. Lumine was just a new gen reploid acting like a maverick "at will" as he said, but in reality the whole maverick thing is Sigma's doing so what he was doing is what Sigma would have done so...
edward18517 watch when Capcom makes X9 and “SIMGA” comes back
(John 11:25-26) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
Repent and turn to Christ Jesus before it is too late. For after this comes the JUDGMENT. Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life.
(John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@@charlie4christ536 Fuck off with your biblical satanic garbage.
When i play x8 in the final battle and see sigma i say
"Ok, sigma again is the final boss"
when i fought lumine was a big WTF???? indeed was a nice surprise
+000mjd But it sucked, Sigma is the better villian and best villian of the MM universe. No villian has accomplished as much as him. So far, Sigma was the only maverick to almost wipe out the entire human race. Even in future games they are still talking about him. Lumine was just a "one time wonder" a Reploid similar in design to that of the zero series. Nothing too special.
Orochimaru sama i agree Sigma is the best Villain in all megaman series but after Fight him 9 games always like the final Boss become boring, dont care how good was the story you know you Will end against Sigma again, again and again, was Nice see him like a puppet this time, and Lumine was a good choice to take the place like the new antagonist
000mjd agreed, the only thing that killed Lumine is that at the very end, he was also a puppet of Sigma's design as well. The whole "going maverick at will" was literally fulfilling what Sigma wanted to do. The Sigma virus continued until MMZ. So it was kinda of a waste to have Lumine as the final boss and don't really achieve anything that might impact in future games, that's why my sigma rant xD
Lumine being the final boss is symbolic of what Sigma has managed to accomplished. Since he managed to infect a new generation of reploids, he no longer needs to be a threat. In a way, he's created an army of himself, so now Sigma can just take a back seat and watch as things unravel.
That feel when you google lumine phase two extended, and this is the first result, I couldn't have done it without you guys!
Gaming Spirit But is that fanart really yours? Because if it isn't, you better have a link to credit it.
DraceEmpressa Ok I will be honest. I looked around after you made that comment. However I cannot find the Deviantart profile of the person who made this. I fear that he/she may have removed their account. So I, unfortunately, cannot give credit.
Gaming Spirit see if you can do the third phase, paradise lost
Nicholas Davey
Yeah the thing is, that song is meant to be a linear 30 someodd second piece. So extending it would be impossible.
Sorry :/
Still I can't find that song anywhere even.
Best battle theme in the X series, thanks CAPCOM :D
Every day passes makes me more certain of how underrated X8 is
Imo,this is the best final boss theme in the X series.
The whole theme ROCKS and is just so intense yet beautiful.
It really fits the final phase perfectly
Even today after like 15 years this theme still comes to my mind when I get excited sometimes :') Such a good theme.
To think, this is the final boss of the entire megaman franchise
we got mm11 so not the end
That was Keiji Inafune's intention, to end it with X5. Then the team made X6 behind his back, and he had to jump in and try to salavge it. Then he got the idea for X8, so he had to make X7 as a means of introducing Axl so the audience can get to know him. X8 was one of the best, really.
the end of a generation, Rockman X always be in my heart
at least till x9 whenever that happenes
He also looks kinda like a robotic version of Jedah from Dark Stalkers. Kinda fitting since they're both Capcom characters.
"YOU MAKE ME ANGRY!" jaja
PARADISE LOST
lost in sky paradise!
*looking the wiki*
Megaman StarForce 3
Release date: Japan November 13, 2008
Megaman 10
Release date: USA March 1, 2010
It's Wily... again.
We agree if we pretend Rockman Xover don't exist, right?
He's in the same game as lumine. The green "Totally Not Boba Fett".
+Captain Riddles, Esquire
Eat your heart out, Sephiroth!(Come at me fangirls)
(Cont.) Therefore, Lumine is a robotic representation of the same Fallen Angel.
P.S. His form here looks Helel-like (six-wings).
Megaman x's Rival. A former maverick hunter who followed sigma in X1. The reason for this being his extreme jealousy for X. He returns in X3 briefly and then again in X8. He also looks suspiciously similar to Boba Fett.
really nostalgic...
still listen in 2021.
When the cockroach opens her wings:
Just now discovering Lumine and his theme is what inspired me to purchase the X Legacy Collection Vol 2. I bought Vol 1 two years ago, because I love X and X4. But this....man, I gotta get to this battle now!
It’s actually a he
@@mosesgozdiff5634 Yeah sorry, I forgot that I had made this comment. I found that out when I was looking up his character information online, lol.
The Pre Seraph Copy X Inspiration.
ljzero fernandez nope, pre-Seraph was inspired by X's Ultimate Armor
this game has many references to the bible itself.
dr cain has existed since the first game.
Este es el 2do mejor tema de batalla de todas las sagas de megaman.
Solo superado por el tema de X vs Zero
he looks like Neo Arcadian Reploid. because the Four Guardians of X. Harpuia Fefnir Leviathan had a similar tranformation just like that
Well the Mega Man Zero games got a little political, but I can't say I thought they kicked more ass than the X series (not dissin' the games, I did fairly enjoy them).
I think the closest thing we had to going beyond the concept of good vs. Evil in the X series was the whole "evolution" thing that the new-age reploids introduced in X8, which did make me think more about mankind and technology than the concept of reploids ever did.
What if X9 introduced NEEDING to break the 1st rule of robotics?
Zero already broke the 1st rule, killing doctor Weil, who was a human
in fact, it seems there's a Zeroth rule, which states it's right to kill one human if doing it will be better for a great number of humans
He means Sera from Megaman Legends 2. Which is currently the final game in the timeline. Legends takes place thousands and thousands of years after the Zero series.
Most extreme boss theme ever!
This theme was epic
Is still*
Just occurred to me, is this fight where Zephyr got the Hex rings from? Ah, I doubt anyone knows what I'm talking about.
Sigma didn't win here. He thought he had won because the uprising was caused by his DNA in the new-gen reploids' copy chips... but as was said from the start, they were the ones who used him. Lumine saw Sigma as a stepping stone, a means to an end, and the symbolism is right there before his fight - he steps on and crushes Sigma's head, asserting himself as the herald of the new world.
Maybe Lumine is a new Sigma. His ideology certainly seems similar, and there's that thing he did to Axl in the ending... but he is no more Sigma than he is all the other reploids in his copy chip.
Holy Riff
Although this song is very epic, i feel like the exact context that it was in did not do the song good justice. The angel Lumine worked, but not the battlefield. Maybe it could have been something similar to the Sigma boss fight in x7 where you were on a falling platform.
i want that lumine's a girl from the start,i would like a girl villain '-'
yes,he is
Nope,Crimson Dragon.Megaman Starforce3 was possibly the last made Megaman game not sure so,actually That crazy King is the last boss.Aside from Bonus Stage Boss Sirius...
1: who the hell is sera?
2: master albert is the final boss of all the robot timeline
well... how about gate? he is a good villain don't you think?
Actually, the Megaman StarForce 3 is the newest game in Megaman franchise.
EPIC ! 0:54 -1:26
:D
I'm an Angel
This song totally reminds of me of my childhood
Don’t you fools get it?!? The real villain is capcom headquarteres CEO. Now go team up with phoenix wright ace attorney and fight to get megaman X9, withOUT worrying about budget, timeframe, quotasssssss. Fight
X9 X9 this theme just brings up the idea from the fans that we need X9
let it rest, the series once drowned in MMX5-7, MMX8 was the redemption arc of it.
@@Evilriku13 mmx5 was supost to be the end of x series and capcom made x6 behind the creators back and he made 7 to aintroduce axle and try to save the game sreies with 8 as for 9 capcom said that they are still open to making since mm11 did so well
i agree
Solaris phase 3 theme
I love X8 no need to say more jijiji
before it megaman series ended sadly
Lumine is best femboy
that fact indeed need to be fixed. go and extend my friend! a good spot is Velgaurder Sigma's theme in Maverick Hunter X. id love that really.
He still has sigma's data inside him.
RetroJohnMan maybe it wasn't trully Sigma's Data what made him turn Maverick
he talks about the decision being made concsiously and that "the New Generation Reploids" having the power to turn Maverick at will, not like including himself
maybe he turned Maverick because of something else, like whatever attacked Axl
If you ask me the music should've been switched for his first form and second form the first form music sounds more god-like
agreed
I miss the games of megaman :`(
Me too.... Why this fckin guy leaved Capcom... Anyway, Megaman was, is and will be. My dream is to make new megaman series, and if i can reactivate megaman online. But i cant.. I only want to ask that guy which leaved capcom to aloow me to create offical game
Mike Hyoraku well the guy is continuing the megaman 'vibe' Look for Mighty Number 9, its the exact same thing
But it will never have same bosses and same memories. Maybe this is new megaman and can be cooler, but i will still love old megaman.
Mike Hyoraku yea, even with improved graphics and no 3D (Learned his lesson from X7) It still isn't Megaman... But this happened last time too, so... who is to blame?
Mike Hyoraku Capcom created X6 without Inafune's knowlege, they force him to change the entire Zero Saga (replace X with copy-x ._. and so on), they continue to make more Megaman X's games even when Inafune already say that the X Saga ends in X5, he had a LOT of reasons for leaving the company. Lot of pression, lot of pain and a lot of orders to do "money" without creativity.
Today he is trying to continue with he's dream making Mighty No 9 he's personal version of Megaman. Capcom already give a fuck abut Megaman (remember the international blaming to the fans maded by Capcom with Legends 3) so, if the oportunity comes, Inafune will make more Megaman games, but ONLY if Capcom give to him the IP (game product rights) because Inafune already know what Capcom is capable to do.
And one more thing... "Mighty" was one of a fiew beta names for the FIRST Rockman game back in 1987. Inafune finally decided to put Rock Man because of the Rock n Roll, but in the first stages of the game production, Mighty was the name of the game and even there is the prototype design for the cover maded by Inafune. This is the main reason why he called "Mighty No9" to his new Megaman spiritual sucessor. :3
best MMX villain ever.
Why: Becase he's NOT Sigma XD
Una canción muy buena de un buen jefe
Allow me to shed some light on this, gentlemen.
Have either of you played final fight? Poison, who was a hooker, was a female enemy in Japan's version of the game.
Now, america doesn't like females to be
A) Exposed
B) Villains.
So, in America, lumine/Poison are listed as males.
Which explains why people think Poison is a transvestite and some think Lumine is a little fruity.
whats the name of luminei theme second form?
winged reploid
paradise lost. seriously.
DraceEmpressa nope, Paradise Lost is the name for the short melody that sounds after this one when Lumine activates the Paradise Lost
super sonic approves
“ Taste destruction.”
lumine's a dude. yeah, it's hard to take in
he's referred to as a he in the game
Exactly
MEGA MAN X vs LUMINI
I like his stage but if I did transform like him I would be an angel Phoenix hybrid lol
Nope,It's Crimson Dragon and Sirius...........There won't be a StarForce 4 since the Creator of MegaMan left Capcom.,,,
That's as blasphemous as saying Wily shouldn't be the villain of the classic series. And to be fair Gate was the main antagonist of X6. Sigma was just the final boss.
Lumine is the best villians of Megaman X, because is worst than Sigma
Ahh yes, the Psycho Maverick femboy.
Epic
yep... pretty damn confusing isnt it?
that was a haiku you just haikud me, I feel weird!
actually model w is
I guess so sure.But you could never know.
Ugh, you do know that DBZ was before Dead Space...
I think he meant in the original universe. Not the battle network/starforce universe
This music is Action Packed but seems...
"Out of Topic"
than the first theme, :P
this boss took me like 2 deaths before i got its pattern down but it was a good fun/annoying boss fight the only thing that was rely annoying enough to make me cry alittle was the stage to get to this boss on the moon .-. with all the spikes every crapin everywhere
And they probably got the idea of Vile's armor from BOBA FETT!!!!!!!!!
Yea seeing how lumine has a girl's voice
this guy was wrong about the patronus. snape's is a doe and Harry's is a stag.
Man that girl kicks ass.
Wait its not a girl, WHAT THE HELL!??!!!?!?!?!?!
Copy x seraphine likes this xd
He made seraph popular
Speaking of Freiza,DBZ COPIED VILE"S ARMOR!!I mean look at the Saiyan armor and compare it to Vile don't they look similar?DragonBallZ surely did copy a idea like, Halo4 stealing some stuff from Dead Space such as:Some of the Helmet Visors.
Now that I think about it.... This forms kinda makes him look like Freeza
Lol no
Just putting this out there... Am I the only one who never thought Lumine sounded like a girl? I imagine something more like a preteen boy going through a voice change when I listen to him.
+Chaos Controller exactly
in japan is a girl in america is a guy
when i got to lumine i shit my pants from dynig
xD Yup Blame Capcom Korea for it But x8 japan made a good one
I vote Japan to see Lumine is a girl.
No Megaman 10 is.
thats a he?!?!
Shockingly yes.
Even voiced ny a Girl too.
TH-cam kids a las 3:00 am
this may sound strange but, is Lumine a boy or girl cuz I have no idea what he or she is
+EXESentinel Lumine's a dude, he's one of those ambigous gender type characters like elpizo from Mega Man Zero 2.
Who cares?
He’s meant to be a beautiful man like Lucifer
you want lumine to be a girl?
This theme is cool but, I prefer the theme of True Sigma.
Can't argue with that, I also think that it's the best sigma boss theme in the entire x series, it's just something about the heavy guitar riffs, coupled with the slow pace of the song, it really gives off this strong sense of finality to the whole thing, like this is truly sigma's last stand.