What always gets me is that when Elrond talks of the bitter experience of mortality, he speaks from his own experience His own twin brother chose to be human, and died about 6,000 years prior to this. Can you even imagine living that long knowing that you would never see your brother again, and then seeing your own daughter about to make the same decision? Breaks my heart every time
His brother was different though bc he and Elrond were half-human and half-elves, which the Valar, I think, didn't want. So they could choose becoming either fully human or fully elves. Elrond choose the latter, and his brother the former choice. Arwen though was already fully elf, so I'm not sure why she would die unless Elrond meant that her body would fade away, leaving her immortal soul to live on.
@@Bdelliumharts I think you've got it wrong. While they certainly have a long lifespan, Elves aren't inherently immortal. They are only immortal through Valinor. If she doesn't leave with Elrond and the other elves and decides to stay on Middle-Earth with Aragorn, she basically "gives up" immortality and becomes mortal. She dies of "extreme sorrow" and heartbreak, which, without Valinor, would be the fate of all elves at the end of the day. Imagine living for thousands of years, but having to see life come and go. In LOTR and IRL (I'd assume), that causes great grief and sorrow which would eventually brings death for elves, but since there is Valinor they just go there instead.
@@Bdelliumharts @On Hiatus You're both wrong. The choice of what option to take descended through Elrond. Arwen, like her Father and his Brother, was able to choose wherever to be a moral or immortal. When she decided to stay in Middle Earth and marry Aragorn, she took the option of mortality. Her Brothers also have this choice to make, but Tolkien never wrote what they went with in the end, to stay in Middle Earth a mortal or wherever they went to Aman on the last ships. Her marriage with Aragorn lasted a hundred years until his death when he 'gave up his life', at which point she too gave up her life, the act of giving your life away when you feel the time is right being the original 'Gift of Men', which Arwen inherited when she made her choice. Her soul at this point wasn't immortal any longer. She now had the soul of a mortal with the body of an Elf. So when she passed, instead of going to the Halls of Mandos to be born again in Valinor, she followed Luthien before her and 'passed from the circles of the world' and to whatever afterlife/fate awaited Men. If what you two were saying was true, then it wouldn't be so big a deal as when she 'died of grief' her soul would be reborn in Aman and she would eventually see her family again. But that isn't the case. Her soul is now mortal and is counted amongst those of Men. THAT is why Elrond is grieved. Because he's going to live for Eru knows how long, hundreds of thousands, or even millions of years and he is NEVER going to see his daughter again. She is lost to him and to all Elves. That is why the pairings of Elves and Men are so legendary and tragic. Because even if, in the best case scenarios of Beren/Luthien, and Aragorn/Arwen, both Elvish partners gain the option of taking mortality, their immortal families and loved ones will never see them again until possibly, quoting from Tolkien, literally the end of the world.
@@joesmith9472 What are you on about? Elrond loved his daughter very much. What he showed Arwen here isn't some cheap trick to scare her into going back home to her parents. THIS is how she dies. After Aragorn dies, Arwen goes on about a year without him, afterwhich she goes into the woods, lays down and never gets up because she dies there of a broken heart. Elrond, her mother and her brothers knew they'd never see her again. They got to live on in the Undying Lands while they knew that she loved Aragorn very much and chose a life with him. Even if that life was short (in terms of elf years) but happy, and had an incredibly painful end. Put yourself in his position: you know for a fact that your daughter is going to go live on another planet (so you'll never see her again after she leaves) and you know HOW she will die, and that she will be alone with nobody to comfort her. She will be happy for a period of time, yes, but that will abruptly come to an end where she will suffer greatly. Wouldn't you try to talk her out of it by telling her what you know?
When I was younger I'd get emotional because I sympathized with Arwen. Now that I'm older, this scene makes me emotional because I understand Elrond more. The sacrifice his daughter is asking of him is so heartbreaking. Not only will he never see her again, but he knows she will die alone and in unimaginable grief. This is a father trying to save his daughter
Yes. So true. He will NEVER see her again. Arwen ends up dying as a mortal woman. Her spirit will go somewhere beyond the elves' understanding of the world.
@@galmanferguson yeah, Arwens family will never see her again. Well, maybe never say never. The end of mortal existence, perhaps. Who knows how far into the future that will be though
The cinematography of this scene is utterly unparalleled. I have seen this scene probably 50 times, and it grows more beautiful each time. Most well-done in the trilogy, I think.
I honestly agree. I probably have several comments on this video or other versions of it spanning a decade or so. I often joke with my drinking buddies about who would make a better motivational speaker Elrond or Denethor yelling "abandon your posts, flee flee for your lives". The writing of this speech is unparalleled. The haunting music -devastatingly beautiful-, and the delivery by Agent Smith who genuinely cares about Arwen, makes the brutal sincerity of the message so so sad. "He will come to death, an image of the splendor of the Kings of Men, IN GLORY, UNDIMMED BEFORE THE BREAKING OF THE WORLD" ugh, goddamit, impossibly good!
Elrond's own brother Elros(Aragorns forefather)chose mortality. He obviously identified more with the race of men and did not relish the idea of "living forever". And I don't remember the exact quote but when the men of Numenor were willing to indulge in evil practices to try and achieve immortality the visiting elves from Valinor tried to clue them in about the "gift of mortality". They basically told them "we are bound to this world with all its suffering and grief. We cannot escape even in death(Halls of Mandos). But you are eventually released. Which of us should truly envy the other?"
Dude that's like saying the Hobbit book (Which came out first) is different from the Lord of the Rings book. The Hobbit movies were not made with the intention to surpass the Lord of the Rings movies. You'd be singing a different tune here if The Hobbit as is came out first in the 2000s and Lord of the Rings came second.
They shouldn't have been made with the intention to surpass the LOTR movies, but they kind of did. Huge battles, long epic sweeping shots, 3 waaay too long movies. All of it only half worked. Wouldn't have mattered if the Hobbit came first, they still would have been different, that's all I was saying.
RockLou Eh I disagree. Both movie's HUGE Battles were rather huge. I mean what's so different about the Siege of Gondor compared to the Battle of Five Armies?
Only 2 Orcs were CGIed and that was Azog. And sorry but I found the Orc make up to look mostly shitty on most of the Actors except for Lurtz the Orc that killed Boromir. Azog looked great and Orcy to me, and having him with make up would look obviously like an Actor playing dress up.
God... That line, "He will come to death - an image of the splendour of the kings of men in glory, undimmed before the breaking of the world." Brilliant.
And for anyone wondering, although probably no one reading this is lol: "The breaking of the world" refers to the destruction of Numenor, the greatest of the kingdoms of Men. Aragorn is a direct descendant of the Numenorean kings.
@@squamish4244 No, it means the end of the world. The destruction of Numenor has already occured. He means that he "has the explendor of Kings (of old)" , of Numenorean great kings, and that it will stay like that until the world is destroyed (in the Dagor Dagorath). Númenor was a just an island, a small part of Arda. A bit too much to say "breaking of the World" to refer to it sinking, I know it made the world round though.
@@Alejojojo6 This is what Tolkien says in the LOTR appendices (which the filmmakers had access to, obviously, but a similar description is in The Silmarillion): "The world was broken, and the land was swallowed up, and the seas rose over it..." "The splendour of the kings of Men in glory undimmed" refers to the Kings (and Queens) of Numenor in Numenor's full glory, glory in this sense meaning moral strength and happiness, who ruled for centuries and lived for 400 years or so. They were also seven feet tall, whereas Aragorn is a mere 6.5 feet tall lol. Their hearts were uncorrupted by the fear of death and envy of the Blessed Realm that spread over Numenor in its later years. That corruption led to Ar-Pharazon's building of the Great Armament and the Downfall.
I think we can all agree LOTR was more than just a movie... why it's more like - an awesome dream that resides in our collective consciousness, with a heavenly soundtrack that is etched in our brain's melodic receptors _ soothing our souls and helping us get through this thing called life
For me it is an alegory. 1:1 alegory of tragic fate of this World, from believer's point of View. We are approaching the battle on Pellenor Fields (or Har Megido from Apocalypse). Deep down we all can sense really dark times ahead... The time of man has passed, time of demons is yet to come 😢
Aliisa Kalma most people dont live to invest seventeen years of their time, emotion, love, and money into something to watch them potentially ruin their life out of a mistake. That's most people though.
The part that gets me is when he says : "Until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent". That line is absolutely soul-crushingly depressing. It makes me feel so sad.
rite because his tree was white dried. now he must talk about timber. he reduces arwen. hes to tell her because she is under and like the temperature of the ocean moon. she is overwhelmed by her writh.
'Evenstar' (the best track in this series, fight me) playing under Elrond's narration taken straight from the Appendix is probably my favorite moment in this trilogy. Pure poetry.
Evenstar always gives me the chills. That ebbing and flowing elven chorus, the wind instruments fading in, it all feels like I’m in some wonderful dream that tells of love and the pervasiveness of hope (like the Sindarin lyrics tell), yet there is a strange weariness about it. This is my favorite song from the whole score.
Although Evenstar isn’t my personal favorite ‘The Passing of the Elves’ is mine, I cannot possibly fault you for choosing it as your favorite. It’s fantastic in its own right, you couldn’t go wrong choosing any Howard Shore directed musical piece of these films
I remember when I was first seeing this scene, I thinked that Elrond was too hard on Arwen, but every time that I see the scene again, I see that he's only trying to protect her daughter
arturoggf No parent would want to see his child to suffer that was why he had to discourage her from being with Aragorn if he had to. But there are things in this world that one cannot control as such example is Arwen's great love for Aragorn. While she loved her father, deep in her heart...she loved Aragorn even more. That was why their love story is so tragic.
A key line that Aragorn speaks is “we go in sorrow, but not despair”. They were sad about the eventual truth that Elrond spoke, but that didn’t mean it wasn’t worth it. It’s hinted several times that after their passing, they were together again
@Luunuu Buunuukuu different experiences can change one individual perception in certain parts of his or her life. Losing nearly half of your face to the dragon fire, your wife being slain by Sauron's orcs and seeing your own kin slaughtered might be some of those experiences. Well, to be honest, sir, I think that despite him being haughty and proud, Thandruil himself is wise and he display such trait by telling Thorin own grandfather not to hoard too many gold stashes in Erebor else it would attract an unwanted visitor like Smaug. Perhaps Thandruil was still a kinder person before his wife passed away.
Of course it was given the moment they showed what they were doing... Also elrods explanation is so true for every one of us that have lost someone, even if we arent immortal... Its still feels like that the years, decades we have to spend here without :/
It's a good thing I don't take products from a global shipping monopoly as "canon"... Especially since it is Quite Literally Impossible to accurately make a story about the 2nd Age of Middle Earth without the Rights to The Silmarillion. Amazon doesn't have the Rights to the Silmarillion, or the Akallabeth for that matter. They paid out the ass for the Appendixes alone so they could slap "Lord of the Rings" on the box before their own fanfiction title. The cultural marxism and blatant "Africanizing" of a purpose-built Anglo-Saxon Mythology also sets me off a bit. Tolkien's ancestors (through death and conversion) lost their original cultural myths, as a people. Tolkien wanted to create a replacement for that mythology, one that his people could take pride in, he spent his entire life on that work... as a Veteran and Scholar Tolkien deserves to not have his life's work "Globalized" (as the corporate suits would call it).
@@nillynush4899 That is a pretty interesting point about what Tolkien worked to create and how it is being repurposed and changed to suit completely different visions.
@@nillynush4899 imagine using nazi terminology unironically over a fantasy novel. "Africanizing" Jesus dude you need to get some friends who don't look like you lolol Imagine crying over this lol who cares if there are black people in Ring of Power it's a show and black people existed in the Tolkien universe anyways. Also, deluding yourself about the reason Tolkien wrote these stories sounds exactly like those Italian fascists who threw a hobbit party in the 70s, acting as if hobbits are meant to be avatars for their eco-fascist ideology; lol the only people "globalizing" his work is fascist like you so in love with made up fascist mythos and fake culture that they can't just enjoy a simple medium without crying over black people being it.
@@theWebWizrd literal nonsense show single interview where Tolkien says he created his work for anglo Saxon neo-fascists? Also, Anglo Saxons stopped existing as a distinct ethnic group centuries before Tolkien was even born.
This scene is what made the LOTR, the mastery of the acting and score elevates the scene. The father who only wants what best for his daughter. It’s so heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time.
+AJcaraballo95 He's trying to convince her to leave Middle-Earth and live forever in Tolkien's version of heaven. He believes that, ultimately, she'll be happier living there, with her love as a memory that never dies.
Does anyone else ever feel a sad but sweet nostalgia for these days? I remember when these films were playing in theaters in the very early 2000s and they were extremely popular. Seems like such a simpler time far away
i know, i felt like some kind of magic were flowing in the air, a lot of good movies that changed the industry forever were made at the early 00's... i remember that opinions weren't that easily shared like we do nonadays, and in a way, that created a more misterious aura around movies... I know that the internet helped a lot the industry but sometimes i feel this kind of political correctness is killing some truly innovative ideas, movies are being made for the anxious more than for the art itself... sometimes i miss this time so much...
The thing is, these don’t even seem at all faded to me. Absolutely nothing since has even come close to matching the quality that was displayed in this trilogy.
That line is more heartbreaking and impactful if one knows the story of what he’s talking about. Elrond’s twin brother Elros was the first king of Númenor and took a mortal life. Aragorn is a loooong descendent of Elros. “The splendor of the kings of Men in glory” is a reference to the original kings of Númenor before they betrayed the Valar. “The breaking of the world” is the fall of Númenor and its sinking beneath the ocean.
The saddest thing about this scene is that Elrond is right. The Appendices describe what happens to Arwen after Aragorn dies, and it's exactly what he says (note that this scene paraphrases the book's description): "But Arwen went forth from the House, and the light of her eyes was quenched, and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Then she said farewell to Eldarion, and to her daughters, and to all whom she had loved; and she went out from the city of Minas Tirith and passed away to the land of Lorien, and dwelt there alone under the fading trees until winter came. Galadriel had passed away and Celeborn also was gone, and the land was silent. "There at last when the mallorn-leaves were falling, but spring had not yet come, she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea."
I dont know if this scene between Arwen and Elrond is in the book, but it seems to me this was Peter Jacksons way of alluding to what happened to Arwen, even including markedly similiar dialogue.
Yes but this scene makes it look as if Arwen stayed immortal and lingered on for centuries after Aragorn's death when in fact she died one year after he did.
When it says Galadriel had passed away and celeborn also was gone. does that mean they went to the undying lands or did they choose to stay behind as well like Arwen and Radagahst?
@@shredx7169 Galadriel was with Elrond and Gandalf at the end of return of the king, they were on the white ship leaving the Grey Havens for Valinor (The Undying Lands) I think Celeborn too being her husband, but not sure if see him there in Peter Jackson movie.. it's said that later Gimli and Legolas took a ship too..
Tarek Chamas yeh that true they went to Rohan for a bit and were at Eomers side when he died. But when they died they was emtombed either side of Aragorn
There is not a single movie made since the Lord of the Rings thats held more emotional power, breathtaking soundtrack, flawless imagery and impeccable acting rolled into one. I'm proud to be part of the generation that experienced this first hand as they were all released.
"An image of the splendor of the kings of man, undimmed before the breaking of the world." Not just fantasy but his language is poetry. That is why Tolkien is the first and foremost, and the measure to which all fantasy authors will be compared. George RR Martin has a great story and complex characters but few can weave words together like Tolkien / fanboy forever
you're not implying that tolkien's characters are not complex, right? it just seems that way, and a lot of people say that as well when comparing. i think i still like asoiaf more than lotr, but objectively speaking, tolkien really is better.
Elron: "If Sauron is defeated, and Aragorn made king and all that you hoped for comes true… you will still have to taste the bitterness of mortality." "Whether by the sword or the slow decay of time, Aragorn will die. And there will be no comfort for you. No comfort to ease the pain of his passing." "He will come to death. An image of the splendor of the kings of men in glory, undimmed before the breaking of the world." "But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt. As night falling winter has come without a star." "Here you will dwell, bound to you grief, under the fading trees, until all the world has changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent." “Arwen? There is nothing for you here... only death.” Pure poetry!
I loved it and thought it was a big improvement over the books. In the books, Elrond and Arwen have "a long talk" before he leaves Middle Earth, but we don't get to find out what they said.
The older I get, the more I realize that Elrond isn’t just afraid of losing Arwen until after the end of time. He knows just how much Aragorn means to Arwen. He also knows just how much losing him will crush her to the point it will kill her. He doesn’t want to lose his daughter. He doesn’t want her to suffer.
Grief is the price one pays for love. And children cannot remain in the shadows of their parents forever. And parents have to learn to let go when their children grow up. Arwen knows the price she will pay for her choices. But she doesn't care. She would rather live one life with Aragorn, then have an eternal one without him. It's the same with me. After all, immortality means we'll forever be stunted. Unable to develop.
Yeah, I don’t think he was even remotely being unfair. She was in his mind, subjugating herself to eternal misery and torment, for something he saw as fleeting. And it was either that, or she would succumb to her feelings and choose death herself, neither of which are ideal.
From 1:19 to 1:45, that sequence.. I can't put my emotions into words. this is just "epic". Pure art. The wind, the grayness, flying leaves, the background, Elrond's voice, Arwen's grief, camera movements... Stunning.
For whatever reason this is arguably my favorite scene in the entire trilogy. To me Tyler and Weaving really sold this father daughter relationship and how much they mean to each other, as well all of the factors playing into the decisions to be made. The dialogue, the acting, the cinematography and music is some of the best I've ever witnessed on film. Beautiful. Sheer poetry.
Same. When I saw arwen in her black garb at the foot of aragorn's tomb, and the shot just held on them for so long without cutting away as Elrond impressed upon her the depth of the grief that would grip her if she chose to stay, I knew this was my favorite scene in the series, and one of my favorite scenes in any film ever
Reading the Appendix, one comes to the heart-breaking discovery that this is what infact does eventually happen to Arwen. She spends her last days upon the hill where Caras Galadhon once stood. Finally, she lays down on the ground and dies.
"But Arwen went forth from the House, and the light of her eyes was quenched, and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Then she said farewell to Eldarion, and to her daughters, and to all whom she had loved; and she went out from the city of Minas Tirith and passed away to the land of Lórien, and dwelt there alone under the fading trees until winter came. Galadriel had passed away and Celeborn was also gone, and the land was silent." "There at last when the mallorn-leaves were falling, but spring had not yet come, she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea." - The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A, "The tale of Aragorn and Arwen"
Ten lines before, this passage: "(Aragorn speaks to Arwen) Let us not be overthrown at the final test, we who of old renounced the Shadow and the Ring. In sorrow we must go, but not in despair. Behold! we are not bound for ever to the circles of the world, and beyond them is more than memory, Farewell!" - The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A, "The tale of Aragorn and Arwen" Hope always remains.
Isn’t crazy how the musical arrangements in these scenes can just push you over the edge? The words are sad enough but ad this ethereal masterpiece and you can’t help but wipe away tears
He's thousands of years old and saw the most horrifying things including his wife tormented, at this point most people will be depressed and pessimistic.
+deadmanslastwish Whenever I watch this scene, I feel the pain in my heart. It is really heartbreaking and ugly truth. I hold my breath as Arwen does and release at the end of the speech.
The scene is heartbreaking because Aragorn's prophecy was fulfilled. He died at the age of 210 and was buried in Minas Tirith as the greatest man of his time. Arwen left Minas Tirith after his death and went to Lothlorien, a place that had become abandoned now that the elves had gone. The once vibrant woods had grown bleak and lifeless, and it was here that Arwen felt her broken heart too much to bear; she chose to give up her mortal life.
"...before the breaking of the world". The photography in this sequence is absolutely perfect: monuments of glory, abandoned architectures once beautiful and now scourged by wind and caressed by leaves. All is grey and all is observed in an infinite instant of decadence.
Tolkien would have like them, for the most part, Im sure. Christopher is just too conservative about his father's work but he didnt create it. Tolkien himself worked on a planned film that was discarded and was happy to make some changes to movie format (He even made himself important changes as he writes in one of his letters) since he understood is not the same as a book and was never so conservative with his work as Christopher is. He is such a purist because his fathers work are not his but the memory of the art of his father he wants to preserve. Also bed stories that he has dear to his heart thus wants to preserve them as he thinks they should be. Also some people say that the fact he despites the fims is just a rumor. The movies really captures the message of Tolkien's works. Im sure he will have loved this scene and the representation of elves, and Cate blanchett as Galadriel just to say a few.
Alex I also believe that Tolkien would like the movies, especially this scene with arwen. It's such a pity that Christopher didn't want to give more of his father work to peter. I think pj does not want to continue with the Tolkien universe because of that... I don't think it's a rumor, they had a lawsuit with the Tolkien estate
Angelina Pe Lots of respect for Christopher, but he didn’t understand film at all. He understood literature, and it is among the most challenging art forms converting literature to cinema. Jackson did about as good of a job as anyone could have, most people who understand film agree
Pure poetry. Hugo Weaving's monologue is stunning. I was in awe when i saw this scene on the big screen. Everything is perfect, from the music, scenery to the lighting and costumes. My favorite LOTR scene.
I like how Arwen is more optimistic about certain things than her father is. *The Two Towers*: ELROND: He is NOT coming back. Why do you linger here where there is no hope? ARWEN: There is still hope. *The Return of the King*: ELROND: I looked into your future and I saw death. ARWEN: There is also life. *(Later on in the movie)* ELROND: (To Aragorn) Arwen is dying. ARWEN: *shows up to Aragorn alive and well at the end* See what I mean?
+nathan smith actually yes. in the silmarillion you read that elves envy men in the sense they have short lives so achieve ambition and glory. unlike elves, who are immortal and have little motivation to achieve great things. and bc they live forever, they become sad and cynical and depressed over time seeing how evil the world is
Yep, he is used to tragedy. His wife was captured and tortured by orcs, and left for the Undying lands 500 years before LOTR. Both his twin brother and daughter Arwen choose to be mortal, forcing him to slowly watch them die.
But it didn't really have a happy ending. Yes, they had children and lived happy but when Aragorn died, Arwen traveled to Loth'lorien and died there by herself. Galadriel, her grandmother had left with all the other elves a while back.
What really bothers me is when people say Arwen is a weak female character. There was one video essay I saw where it was claimed that she exists in the plot only for Aragorn's motivation. While she does serve, in many ways, as his incentives, there is so much more to her being in the story. She introduces the theme of death. Immortality is a curse in many ways - living on by oneself forever. One aspect to her choosing a mortal life is for this reason. She knows that being with a person she loves and dying is better than living through all the ages of the world. And choosing to die is so much more significant than her critics like to admit.
You can argue she's "weak" in the book, because she's barely in it. But that's only because the conflict with Elrond about her relationship and choice to be with Aragorn had been settled many years earlier in the timeline of the book. She becomes more interesting in the films because the timeline has been changed, and the conflict with her father about her decision is present right in the middle of the story, and not settled business until the end.
That is feminist propaganda. And the only strength a feminist values and envies is the masculime strength of might. How much strength must it take to choose between temporary love and eternal salvation in the hallowed lands knowing the she is dammed either way
Suffering and love always go hand in hand. When we chose to love, we accept that it's not going to always be sunshine. There will be dark days for love has a high price. But that high price and love is what makes us grow into something far larger than ourselves.
But Arwen went forth from the House, and the light of her eyes was quenched, and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Then she said farewell to Eldarion, and to her daughters, and to all whom she had loved; and she went out from the city of Minas Tirith and passed away to the land of Lórien, and dwelt there alone under the fading trees until winter came. Galadriel had passed away and Celeborn had also gone, and the land was silent. There at last when the mallorn-leaves were falling, but spring had not yet come, she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by the men that come after, and elanor and nimphredil bloom no more east of the sea.
"At the hill's foot Frodo found Aragorn, standing still and silent as a tree; but in his hand was a small golden bloom of elanor, and light was in his eyes. He was wrapped in some fair memory; and as Frodo looked at him he knew that he beheld things as they once had been in this same place. For the grim years were removed from the face of Aragorn, and he seemed clothed in white, a young lord tall and fair; and he spoke words in the Elvish tongue to one whom Frodo could not see. 'Arwen vanimelda, namárië!' he said, and then he drew a breath, and returning out of his thought he looked at Frodo and smiled. 'Here is the heart of Elvendom on Earth', he said, 'and here my heart dwells ever, unless there be a light beyond the dark roads that we must tread, you and I. Come with me!' And taking Frodo's hand in his, he left the hill of Cerin Amroth and came there never again as a living man." I take that last sentence as an implication that after his death, Aragorn's spirit followed Arwen, and was with her when she died upon Cerin Amroth. Then they passed on, out of this world and into the great beyond, together.
This is the epitome of this trilogy. When I was younger I mostly payed attention to the action, but I later realised that these scenes are what propel the trilogy from being amazing to being absolutely phenomenal
@Nagy Tibor The Hobbit was truly meant to be experienced before The Lord of the Rings. If you have friends or family that haven’t watched the Middle-earth films, I strongly suggest that you show them The Hobbit before LOTR.
To be fair, it’s going to be hard to top these movies, considering how well made they were. It’s better if you watch the Middle-earth films chronologically instead of by order of release.
Trilogy is filled with powerful scenes: Boromir's death, Eomer's attack at helm's depp, Rohan charge at pelennor fields, last march of ents, eagles at black gate - just a few of them. Memorable, powerful moments. But this is like one of the most beautiful and tragic one.
Tolkien was the GOAT. Who else writes like this?! "He will come to death, an image of the splendor of the kings of men, in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world, But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt, as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Here you will dwell, bound to your grief under the fading trees, until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent."
The mastery of this whole scene with the music, dialogue, acting and visuals is better than any other scene in any movie .. they pulled it off amazingly
What makes this scene so sad is the reality of it. The reality is that he's not wrong. Even though the ring is destroyed and the armies of evil defeated, he still isn't wrong. Arwen will have to face this very problem one day, evil or no evil, son or no son. She will have to see the man she loves die and one day she will even seen the son she loves die. She will have to suffer through the grief and loneliness. It's a message that's true to real life. When going through grief it is hard to not feel completely and utterly alone.
This is one of the most beautiful scenes in the trilogy, IMO. Not only is the music top-notch, but the writing is amazing and really evokes that sense of tragic beauty that was ever-present in Tolkien's writing, especially in the Silmarillion. Arwen and Aragorn's relationship was very much a comparision and allusion to the tale of Luthien and Beren, the fair elf-maiden daughter of great elven king and the strong kingly son of a noble lord of men. In that tale, Luthien's lovely song enchanted the heart of Beren, who was wandering lost in the woods of her father's realm, and together they fell in love. However, her father, King Thingol, would not simply allow his beloved daughter to marry a mortal, so he instructed him to complete an impossible quest in order to earn his favor. The story ends in tragedy, as Beren is slain in a dark fortress, and Luthien journeyed all the way to the Halls of Mandos, the house of the dead, and sang a song that told of her heartbreak. Mandos was so moved by this display of sorrow and love that he promised to return Beren to life, but they would both become mortal. She took that deal, and together Luthien and Beren had a mighty posterity, their great-grandsons being Elros, the first of the Numenorean kings (Aragorn's ancestors) and Elrond himself. Arwen is often compared in the books to Luthien, carrying the same solemn beauty that captured the hearts of mortal men. And Aragorn wore the Ring of Barahir, which was once worn by Beren, a symbol of that great lineage of men. The one conflict that continues through the Silmarillion and into the Lord of the Rings is that men die but elves live on, forced to burden the sorrows and troubles of the past into the next generations. Elrond wanted Arwen to leave to Valinor, the Undying Lands, not only to prevent her from having the burden of losing Aragorn, but also to save her from being one of the last great elves to tarry in Middle Earth as her people fade to obscurity. At surface-level, Elrond could be seen as being somewhat selfish, forcing Arwen to choose between Aragorn and her people, but he really just wanted her to be happy in the end.
Screenplay, cinematography sound track acting incredible. This is probably my favourite scene in any movie, it's perfect. Everytime I watch it I get feels, Hugo Weaving was perfectly cast. Can't believe these movies are nearly 20 years old. Thanks.for the upload
A man does not age, he decays. He does not die, he comes to death. Glory does not diminish, it dims. The world does not end, it breaks. A widow does not survive, she lingers. Trees do not wither, they fade. Years are not lived, they are spent.
The music is so beautiful and fits the scene perfectly. It is called "Evenstar" Ú i vethed... nâ i onnad. Si boe ú-dhannathach Ae ú-esteliach nad Estelio han estelio veleth. This is not the end... It is the beginning. You cannot falter now If you trust nothing else Trust this Trust love.
Gosh, this is painfully beautiful. The visuals, the music, the actors, the scenery, the voice of Elrond and his forecast. The ethereal beauty of Liv Tyler. this scene alone is masterpiece.
"If Sauron is defeated and Aragorn made king, and all that you hoped for comes true, he will still have to face the bitterness of mortality. . . . And there will be no comfort for you." Tell that to your grandmother.
The difference is Beren and Luthien died together (the second time anyways). Also, Melian was just as sad as Elrond when she saw that Luthien made up her own doom by choosing to be with Beren.
This was done for only 20 years ago and this is still feeling so magical after these years. Especially with Liv Tyler. I cannot imagine how will our descendants perceive in 1,000 years later, but this is so incredible.
I just love the poetic dialogue in Lord of the Rings... Every word, every sentence is so beautifully crafted and the actors and the score deliver them perfectly. I fall in love with the movies every time I watch them once more. That´s real cinema magic right there.
This scene is always the saddest out of the trilogy for me. The scenes of Aragorn's tomb, Gondor abandoned and Arwen walking alone through the dying woods makes my heart ache like nothing else. The cinematography and music truly sell the sense of loneliness and despair.
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What always gets me is that when Elrond talks of the bitter experience of mortality, he speaks from his own experience His own twin brother chose to be human, and died about 6,000 years prior to this. Can you even imagine living that long knowing that you would never see your brother again, and then seeing your own daughter about to make the same decision? Breaks my heart every time
His brother was different though bc he and Elrond were half-human and half-elves, which the Valar, I think, didn't want. So they could choose becoming either fully human or fully elves. Elrond choose the latter, and his brother the former choice. Arwen though was already fully elf, so I'm not sure why she would die unless Elrond meant that her body would fade away, leaving her immortal soul to live on.
@@Bdelliumharts I think you've got it wrong. While they certainly have a long lifespan, Elves aren't inherently immortal. They are only immortal through Valinor. If she doesn't leave with Elrond and the other elves and decides to stay on Middle-Earth with Aragorn, she basically "gives up" immortality and becomes mortal. She dies of "extreme sorrow" and heartbreak, which, without Valinor, would be the fate of all elves at the end of the day. Imagine living for thousands of years, but having to see life come and go. In LOTR and IRL (I'd assume), that causes great grief and sorrow which would eventually brings death for elves, but since there is Valinor they just go there instead.
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You're both wrong. The choice of what option to take descended through Elrond. Arwen, like her Father and his Brother, was able to choose wherever to be a moral or immortal. When she decided to stay in Middle Earth and marry Aragorn, she took the option of mortality. Her Brothers also have this choice to make, but Tolkien never wrote what they went with in the end, to stay in Middle Earth a mortal or wherever they went to Aman on the last ships.
Her marriage with Aragorn lasted a hundred years until his death when he 'gave up his life', at which point she too gave up her life, the act of giving your life away when you feel the time is right being the original 'Gift of Men', which Arwen inherited when she made her choice.
Her soul at this point wasn't immortal any longer. She now had the soul of a mortal with the body of an Elf. So when she passed, instead of going to the Halls of Mandos to be born again in Valinor, she followed Luthien before her and 'passed from the circles of the world' and to whatever afterlife/fate awaited Men. If what you two were saying was true, then it wouldn't be so big a deal as when she 'died of grief' her soul would be reborn in Aman and she would eventually see her family again. But that isn't the case. Her soul is now mortal and is counted amongst those of Men. THAT is why Elrond is grieved. Because he's going to live for Eru knows how long, hundreds of thousands, or even millions of years and he is NEVER going to see his daughter again. She is lost to him and to all Elves.
That is why the pairings of Elves and Men are so legendary and tragic. Because even if, in the best case scenarios of Beren/Luthien, and Aragorn/Arwen, both Elvish partners gain the option of taking mortality, their immortal families and loved ones will never see them again until possibly, quoting from Tolkien, literally the end of the world.
Ooh. I see why now.
Unless his brother was a dick...
"Do I not also have your love?" Is there a line more heartbreaking?
@Username That's insane. LOTR is every aspect of love done right.
@Username what the hell they are insane
@Username Over dramatic excessive depiction of a feminist. But i get why you think why you think that. There are some who are elite and radical
If you're one of those parents who likes to clip the wings off your kids so you wont be alone then yeah, sure, it's heartbreaking.
@@joesmith9472 What are you on about? Elrond loved his daughter very much. What he showed Arwen here isn't some cheap trick to scare her into going back home to her parents.
THIS is how she dies. After Aragorn dies, Arwen goes on about a year without him, afterwhich she goes into the woods, lays down and never gets up because she dies there of a broken heart.
Elrond, her mother and her brothers knew they'd never see her again. They got to live on in the Undying Lands while they knew that she loved Aragorn very much and chose a life with him. Even if that life was short (in terms of elf years) but happy, and had an incredibly painful end.
Put yourself in his position: you know for a fact that your daughter is going to go live on another planet (so you'll never see her again after she leaves) and you know HOW she will die, and that she will be alone with nobody to comfort her.
She will be happy for a period of time, yes, but that will abruptly come to an end where she will suffer greatly. Wouldn't you try to talk her out of it by telling her what you know?
But _you_ my daughter ... you will linger on, in darkness and in doubt, as nightfall in winter that comes without a star.
Fuck me, those words are incredible.
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Don’t you hate it when that happens?
It's a scene that dwells on the nature of mortality and immortality, and makes you FEEL the presence of an immortal sphere. Utterly magnificent.
Awesome line
When I was younger I'd get emotional because I sympathized with Arwen. Now that I'm older, this scene makes me emotional because I understand Elrond more. The sacrifice his daughter is asking of him is so heartbreaking. Not only will he never see her again, but he knows she will die alone and in unimaginable grief. This is a father trying to save his daughter
Thats a big theme of the entire lotr story "how do you save someone from themself?"
Yes. So true. He will NEVER see her again. Arwen ends up dying as a mortal woman. Her spirit will go somewhere beyond the elves' understanding of the world.
@@galmanferguson yeah, Arwens family will never see her again. Well, maybe never say never. The end of mortal existence, perhaps. Who knows how far into the future that will be though
@@e.j.5053 actually because Arwen was human when she passed, her spirit was taken to a realm beyond everything only known to Eru Himself.
Bro ...........
Legit one of the most beautiful and poetic scenes in a movie I've ever seen
The cinematography of this scene is utterly unparalleled. I have seen this scene probably 50 times, and it grows more beautiful each time. Most well-done in the trilogy, I think.
Except Aragorn's finger twitching at 01:13
I honestly agree. I probably have several comments on this video or other versions of it spanning a decade or so. I often joke with my drinking buddies about who would make a better motivational speaker Elrond or Denethor yelling "abandon your posts, flee flee for your lives". The writing of this speech is unparalleled. The haunting music -devastatingly beautiful-, and the delivery by Agent Smith who genuinely cares about Arwen, makes the brutal sincerity of the message so so sad. "He will come to death, an image of the splendor of the Kings of Men, IN GLORY, UNDIMMED BEFORE THE BREAKING OF THE WORLD" ugh, goddamit, impossibly good!
Default User94 Actually, that is Arewn's left hand.
Anthony Wilczewski I think you're right now
Yes that is definitely Arwen's hand, placed over Aragorn's which is clasping his sword.
Elrond should be a motivational speaker.
***** Gandalf:"Death is just another path, one that we all must take".
+Anonymous Gaming A unknown path for every mortal man that dies. Not even the Valar know where the souls of the second childeren go. -The Silmarilion
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Elrond's own brother Elros(Aragorns forefather)chose mortality. He obviously identified more with the race of men and did not relish the idea of "living forever". And I don't remember the exact quote but when the men of Numenor were willing to indulge in evil practices to try and achieve immortality the visiting elves from Valinor tried to clue them in about the "gift of mortality". They basically told them "we are bound to this world with all its suffering and grief. We cannot escape even in death(Halls of Mandos). But you are eventually released. Which of us should truly envy the other?"
Steven Cook nah if I found true love I would choose that person forever!
This scene completely shows what made LOTR so different from the Hobbit movies. This scene is pure cinematic poetry.
Dude that's like saying the Hobbit book (Which came out first) is different from the Lord of the Rings book.
The Hobbit movies were not made with the intention to surpass the Lord of the Rings movies.
You'd be singing a different tune here if The Hobbit as is came out first in the 2000s and Lord of the Rings came second.
They shouldn't have been made with the intention to surpass the LOTR movies, but they kind of did. Huge battles, long epic sweeping shots, 3 waaay too long movies. All of it only half worked.
Wouldn't have mattered if the Hobbit came first, they still would have been different, that's all I was saying.
RockLou Eh I disagree. Both movie's HUGE Battles were rather huge. I mean what's so different about the Siege of Gondor compared to the Battle of Five Armies?
They can't surpass superior Orc make-up and heart with all the CGI in the world.
Only 2 Orcs were CGIed and that was Azog.
And sorry but I found the Orc make up to look mostly shitty on most of the Actors except for Lurtz the Orc that killed Boromir.
Azog looked great and Orcy to me, and having him with make up would look obviously like an Actor playing dress up.
God... That line, "He will come to death - an image of the splendour of the kings of men in glory, undimmed before the breaking of the world." Brilliant.
"But you..." 😭
Tolkien truly had a way with words ...
And for anyone wondering, although probably no one reading this is lol: "The breaking of the world" refers to the destruction of Numenor, the greatest of the kingdoms of Men. Aragorn is a direct descendant of the Numenorean kings.
@@squamish4244 No, it means the end of the world. The destruction of Numenor has already occured. He means that he "has the explendor of Kings (of old)" , of Numenorean great kings, and that it will stay like that until the world is destroyed (in the Dagor Dagorath). Númenor was a just an island, a small part of Arda. A bit too much to say "breaking of the World" to refer to it sinking, I know it made the world round though.
@@Alejojojo6 This is what Tolkien says in the LOTR appendices (which the filmmakers had access to, obviously, but a similar description is in The Silmarillion): "The world was broken, and the land was swallowed up, and the seas rose over it..."
"The splendour of the kings of Men in glory undimmed" refers to the Kings (and Queens) of Numenor in Numenor's full glory, glory in this sense meaning moral strength and happiness, who ruled for centuries and lived for 400 years or so. They were also seven feet tall, whereas Aragorn is a mere 6.5 feet tall lol. Their hearts were uncorrupted by the fear of death and envy of the Blessed Realm that spread over Numenor in its later years.
That corruption led to Ar-Pharazon's building of the Great Armament and the Downfall.
I think we can all agree LOTR was more than just a movie... why it's more like - an awesome dream that resides in our collective consciousness, with a heavenly soundtrack that is etched in our brain's melodic receptors _ soothing our souls and helping us get through this thing called life
It's a religious experience.
Indeed.
Well said Jared.
For me it is an alegory. 1:1 alegory of tragic fate of this World, from believer's point of View. We are approaching the battle on Pellenor Fields (or Har Megido from Apocalypse). Deep down we all can sense really dark times ahead...
The time of man has passed, time of demons is yet to come 😢
It is DIVINE WISDOM no doubt in my heart ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
the music is everything
***** not sure! There is a track called arwens fate but I'm not sure it's the same one as in this video
- One Of The Dunedain (Complete)
- Evenstar (Short Version)
Emmanuel Santos thanks dude
That pretty much sums it up.
Yes
Every father's speech to his daughter before prom night.
He will come to death ? lol
Not by old age or sword, but red hot lead for attempting to plant his seed within my daughter
0hsnappl3s hahaha I am dead with your comment
Ew it's almost like the dads have the hots for their daughters as if they feel they're their property and they're jealous
Aliisa Kalma most people dont live to invest seventeen years of their time, emotion, love, and money into something to watch them potentially ruin their life out of a mistake. That's most people though.
The part that gets me is when he says :
"Until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent".
That line is absolutely soul-crushingly depressing. It makes me feel so sad.
rite because his tree was white dried. now he must talk about timber. he reduces arwen. hes to tell her because she is under and like the temperature of the ocean moon. she is overwhelmed by her writh.
elrond fights his own mind from hers. she summons him. his foremost product is to speak her his frontlines.
elrond is frustrated his forehead lines. while she is freer airer. he her he haw
Franky Novotny it is.
Didn't we murder the shit out of you in WW2? @Hideki Tojo
Poetry = 100%
Emotions = 100%
Awesomeness = 100%
Beauty = 100%
@@goddesssalem4842 no sex scene, nude scene, bad words
I don't watch the series, I hope it wont turn to game of trones
Cinematography 100%. This is the greatest movie scene of all time
It's certainly one the great epics. @@hartegane7202
MUSIC ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
'Evenstar' (the best track in this series, fight me) playing under Elrond's narration taken straight from the Appendix is probably my favorite moment in this trilogy. Pure poetry.
Evenstar always gives me the chills. That ebbing and flowing elven chorus, the wind instruments fading in, it all feels like I’m in some wonderful dream that tells of love and the pervasiveness of hope (like the Sindarin lyrics tell), yet there is a strange weariness about it. This is my favorite song from the whole score.
that track teleported my mind to a World mysterious and sweet imagination.
Although Evenstar isn’t my personal favorite ‘The Passing of the Elves’ is mine, I cannot possibly fault you for choosing it as your favorite. It’s fantastic in its own right, you couldn’t go wrong choosing any Howard Shore directed musical piece of these films
I never really clocked how good evenstar was until I saw it live and i was just weeping
I remember when I was first seeing this scene, I thinked that Elrond was too hard on Arwen, but every time that I see the scene again, I see that he's only trying to protect her daughter
arturoggf No parent would want to see his child to suffer that was why he had to discourage her from being with Aragorn if he had to. But there are things in this world that one cannot control as such example is Arwen's great love for Aragorn. While she loved her father, deep in her heart...she loved Aragorn even more.
That was why their love story is so tragic.
A key line that Aragorn speaks is “we go in sorrow, but not despair”. They were sad about the eventual truth that Elrond spoke, but that didn’t mean it wasn’t worth it. It’s hinted several times that after their passing, they were together again
But there was a child..
Yeah. But it's still depressing. For everyone, especially him.
@Luunuu Buunuukuu different experiences can change one individual perception in certain parts of his or her life. Losing nearly half of your face to the dragon fire, your wife being slain by Sauron's orcs and seeing your own kin slaughtered might be some of those experiences. Well, to be honest, sir, I think that despite him being haughty and proud, Thandruil himself is wise and he display such trait by telling Thorin own grandfather not to hoard too many gold stashes in Erebor else it would attract an unwanted visitor like Smaug. Perhaps Thandruil was still a kinder person before his wife passed away.
Elf problems.
Yes haha or age gap problems
macron problems
LMFAOOO IM CRYING!
99 problems but this ain't one lol 😂
Lmfao 🤣💯
Why isn't Elrond doing TED talks yet?
LMAO
Lol. As i remember nobody ever hear him.
cause ted talks suck. Full of sjw propaganda
Because TED talks are about making people happy and giving them hope...not crushing them into darkness
Because TED sucks balls
This one scene has more emotion and better acting than the entire rings of power.
Of course it was given the moment they showed what they were doing...
Also elrods explanation is so true for every one of us that have lost someone, even if we arent immortal... Its still feels like that the years, decades we have to spend here without :/
It's a good thing I don't take products from a global shipping monopoly as "canon"... Especially since it is Quite Literally Impossible to accurately make a story about the 2nd Age of Middle Earth without the Rights to The Silmarillion. Amazon doesn't have the Rights to the Silmarillion, or the Akallabeth for that matter. They paid out the ass for the Appendixes alone so they could slap "Lord of the Rings" on the box before their own fanfiction title. The cultural marxism and blatant "Africanizing" of a purpose-built Anglo-Saxon Mythology also sets me off a bit. Tolkien's ancestors (through death and conversion) lost their original cultural myths, as a people. Tolkien wanted to create a replacement for that mythology, one that his people could take pride in, he spent his entire life on that work... as a Veteran and Scholar Tolkien deserves to not have his life's work "Globalized" (as the corporate suits would call it).
@@nillynush4899 That is a pretty interesting point about what Tolkien worked to create and how it is being repurposed and changed to suit completely different visions.
@@nillynush4899 imagine using nazi terminology unironically over a fantasy novel. "Africanizing" Jesus dude you need to get some friends who don't look like you lolol Imagine crying over this lol who cares if there are black people in Ring of Power it's a show and black people existed in the Tolkien universe anyways. Also, deluding yourself about the reason Tolkien wrote these stories sounds exactly like those Italian fascists who threw a hobbit party in the 70s, acting as if hobbits are meant to be avatars for their eco-fascist ideology; lol the only people "globalizing" his work is fascist like you so in love with made up fascist mythos and fake culture that they can't just enjoy a simple medium without crying over black people being it.
@@theWebWizrd literal nonsense show single interview where Tolkien says he created his work for anglo Saxon neo-fascists? Also, Anglo Saxons stopped existing as a distinct ethnic group centuries before Tolkien was even born.
This scene is what made the LOTR, the mastery of the acting and score elevates the scene. The father who only wants what best for his daughter. It’s so heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time.
Elrond: "Hmmm..Let's see how terrible I can make this sound.."
Lol
+CathannahShowani Father of the year, right there. LOL
+AJcaraballo95 He's trying to convince her to leave Middle-Earth and live forever in Tolkien's version of heaven. He believes that, ultimately, she'll be happier living there, with her love as a memory that never dies.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
+Geeky Ravenclaw Lol
Does anyone else ever feel a sad but sweet nostalgia for these days? I remember when these films were playing in theaters in the very early 2000s and they were extremely popular. Seems like such a simpler time far away
i know, i felt like some kind of magic were flowing in the air, a lot of good movies that changed the industry forever were made at the early 00's... i remember that opinions weren't that easily shared like we do nonadays, and in a way, that created a more misterious aura around movies... I know that the internet helped a lot the industry but sometimes i feel this kind of political correctness is killing some truly innovative ideas, movies are being made for the anxious more than for the art itself... sometimes i miss this time so much...
PC ruins everything. Indeed it does.
The thing is, these don’t even seem at all faded to me. Absolutely nothing since has even come close to matching the quality that was displayed in this trilogy.
I miss the filmmaker ethos from that era most
Before the dark times... Before the SJW....
The music, cinematography, lines....JUST PERFECT!
Chills, every single time. "An image of the splendor of the kings of Men in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world."
Epic
That line is more heartbreaking and impactful if one knows the story of what he’s talking about. Elrond’s twin brother Elros was the first king of Númenor and took a mortal life. Aragorn is a loooong descendent of Elros.
“The splendor of the kings of Men in glory” is a reference to the original kings of Númenor before they betrayed the Valar. “The breaking of the world” is the fall of Númenor and its sinking beneath the ocean.
The same thing in my mind. Good Comment
The eloquence of these lines is basically what is missing in “rings of power”
We don't talk about the rings of power
The saddest thing about this scene is that Elrond is right. The Appendices describe what happens to Arwen after Aragorn dies, and it's exactly what he says (note that this scene paraphrases the book's description):
"But Arwen went forth from the House, and the light of her eyes was quenched, and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Then she said farewell to Eldarion, and to her daughters, and to all whom she had loved; and she went out from the city of Minas Tirith and passed away to the land of Lorien, and dwelt there alone under the fading trees until winter came. Galadriel had passed away and Celeborn also was gone, and the land was silent.
"There at last when the mallorn-leaves were falling, but spring had not yet come, she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea."
I dont know if this scene between Arwen and Elrond is in the book, but it seems to me this was Peter Jacksons way of alluding to what happened to Arwen, even including markedly similiar dialogue.
Yes but this scene makes it look as if Arwen stayed immortal and lingered on for centuries after Aragorn's death when in fact she died one year after he did.
So we could say this is the only “footage” from the future: Aragorn’s death and Arwen pain… realising this makes this scenemore sad.
When it says Galadriel had passed away and celeborn also was gone. does that mean they went to the undying lands or did they choose to stay behind as well like Arwen and Radagahst?
@@shredx7169 Galadriel was with Elrond and Gandalf at the end of return of the king, they were on the white ship leaving the Grey Havens for Valinor (The Undying Lands) I think Celeborn too being her husband, but not sure if see him there in Peter Jackson movie.. it's said that later Gimli and Legolas took a ship too..
by far one of the best and most emotional movie scenes of all time
It also has some hot toes
I like how she responds in the common tongue to his question. Showing her decision both in content of her words and the context of the language.
Yep westron, the language of the numenorians and gondor, also spoken by the hobbits, “translated” into modern English by Tolkien.
And then she switches back to elvish when she decides to go to leave instead. Poetic cinema.
u wana cry some more ... merry and pippin got buried next to Aragon when they passed away
*****
the extra info they gathered from tolkyin's writings that he never published
Tarek Chamas yeh that true they went to Rohan for a bit and were at Eomers side when he died. But when they died they was emtombed either side of Aragorn
I have seen it (looks under his sexy eyebrows like Saruman) :D
I am sure Merry and Pippin would have passed away much before Aragorn who died at age 240
they moved them
Sheer perfection. Two decades on and nothing has come close to this.
There is not a single movie made since the Lord of the Rings thats held more emotional power, breathtaking soundtrack, flawless imagery and impeccable acting rolled into one. I'm proud to be part of the generation that experienced this first hand as they were all released.
"An image of the splendor of the kings of man, undimmed before the breaking of the world." Not just fantasy but his language is poetry. That is why Tolkien is the first and foremost, and the measure to which all fantasy authors will be compared. George RR Martin has a great story and complex characters but few can weave words together like Tolkien / fanboy forever
HAH, I just quoted that in reply to the comment directly above yours, then scrolled down to discover your comment. Magnificent.
you're not implying that tolkien's characters are not complex, right? it just seems that way, and a lot of people say that as well when comparing. i think i still like asoiaf more than lotr, but objectively speaking, tolkien really is better.
John Gunnerek Was that a literal quote from the books?
Z4buz4ITA in the appendixes, yes 😊
Ty, found it!
Elron: "If Sauron is defeated, and Aragorn made king and all that you hoped for comes true… you will still have to taste the bitterness of mortality."
"Whether by the sword or the slow decay of time, Aragorn will die. And there will be no comfort for you. No comfort to ease the pain of his passing."
"He will come to death. An image of the splendor of the kings of men in glory, undimmed before the breaking of the world."
"But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt. As night falling winter has come without a star."
"Here you will dwell, bound to you grief, under the fading trees, until all the world has changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent."
“Arwen? There is nothing for you here... only death.”
Pure poetry!
“As night fall in winter that comes without a star”
I loved it and thought it was a big improvement over the books. In the books, Elrond and Arwen have "a long talk" before he leaves Middle Earth, but we don't get to find out what they said.
Tell me "Bound to you grief" OR "bound to your grief? "Which is true?
@@KneelB4Bacon yes we know These words are from the attachments.
@@aliyldrm473 to your grief
What a brilliant fantasy story....
I love seeing Aragorn's tomb statue thing, a vision of the actual far far future after Return of the King.
Sargon of Akkad
Nineteen1900Hundred your sentiment is how i feel it too i’m a huge fan back than even now
I think that tomb were on Osgiliath
Ninteen1900Hundred I believe that "tomb statue thing" is known as an effigy. ;-)
@@mutskuz357 the tomb is in Minas Tirith at the back of the great hall at the highest peak. That's where the kings of Gondor are all entombed.
The older I get, the more I realize that Elrond isn’t just afraid of losing Arwen until after the end of time.
He knows just how much Aragorn means to Arwen. He also knows just how much losing him will crush her to the point it will kill her.
He doesn’t want to lose his daughter. He doesn’t want her to suffer.
Grief is the price one pays for love. And children cannot remain in the shadows of their parents forever. And parents have to learn to let go when their children grow up. Arwen knows the price she will pay for her choices. But she doesn't care. She would rather live one life with Aragorn, then have an eternal one without him. It's the same with me. After all, immortality means we'll forever be stunted. Unable to develop.
And his fears eventually come true, as Arwen eventually chooses to follow her husband into death rather than live without him...
Yeah, I don’t think he was even remotely being unfair. She was in his mind, subjugating herself to eternal misery and torment, for something he saw as fleeting. And it was either that, or she would succumb to her feelings and choose death herself, neither of which are ideal.
Didnt she become mortal at the end or something like that 😅
@@MiArcangelShe did but she would live for much much longer than Aragorn.
From 1:19 to 1:45, that sequence.. I can't put my emotions into words. this is just "epic". Pure art. The wind, the grayness, flying leaves, the background, Elrond's voice, Arwen's grief, camera movements... Stunning.
I just come here after reading about the destruction amazon has done
The moment @2:13 where Elrond calls her name is also some cinematographic art in itself. The whole scene is as perfect as movie making gets.
The Elvish clothes are just awesome
Same, the feelings are special in this image...
They butchered this shot with filters and a vignette in the blu ray remaster
mother of god this scene is perfection
+Tarek Chamas Mother of God, this TRILOGY is perfection. Books, films, whatever. It's just a masterpiece of fiction.
I think I went to the theater to see this movie like 10 times, primarily for this scene.
its Lord of the Rings brother....Its truly a true masterpiece. My favorite movie of all time!
Iron Throne bah wish one day we can have something on the level of lotr again ...
i wish man i wish....
For whatever reason this is arguably my favorite scene in the entire trilogy. To me Tyler and Weaving really sold this father daughter relationship and how much they mean to each other, as well all of the factors playing into the decisions to be made. The dialogue, the acting, the cinematography and music is some of the best I've ever witnessed on film. Beautiful. Sheer poetry.
Hauntingly beautiful scene ... the imagery, the language, the music ...pure art... and it makes you think
@@Ruoktoday1 "as nightfall in winter that comes without a star". Unsurpassed language. Imagery of genius. No star, not even......the Evenstar.
Same. When I saw arwen in her black garb at the foot of aragorn's tomb, and the shot just held on them for so long without cutting away as Elrond impressed upon her the depth of the grief that would grip her if she chose to stay, I knew this was my favorite scene in the series, and one of my favorite scenes in any film ever
Reading the Appendix, one comes to the heart-breaking discovery that this is what infact does eventually happen to Arwen. She spends her last days upon the hill where Caras Galadhon once stood. Finally, she lays down on the ground and dies.
Not really though, she only dies one year after Aragorn and Arwen basically says goodbye to her kids and goes to her favourite place to die.
So wait what happens to arwen after aragorn dies
"But Arwen went forth from the House, and the light of her eyes was quenched, and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Then she said farewell to Eldarion, and to her daughters, and to all whom she had loved; and she went out from the city of Minas Tirith and passed away to the land of Lórien, and dwelt there alone under the fading trees until winter came. Galadriel had passed away and Celeborn was also gone, and the land was silent."
"There at last when the mallorn-leaves were falling, but spring had not yet come, she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea."
- The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A, "The tale of Aragorn and Arwen"
Ten lines before, this passage:
"(Aragorn speaks to Arwen) Let us not be overthrown at the final test, we who of old renounced the Shadow and the Ring. In sorrow we must go, but not in despair. Behold! we are not bound for ever to the circles of the world, and beyond them is more than memory, Farewell!"
- The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A, "The tale of Aragorn and Arwen"
Hope always remains.
Berzstiflag yep. Kind of gave me the idea that elves aren’t really immortal. Live a long time, but all beings find their way home eventually
Isn’t crazy how the musical arrangements in these scenes can just push you over the edge? The words are sad enough but ad this ethereal masterpiece and you can’t help but wipe away tears
Dad is just a bag of sunshine isn't he?
Тусинінбеиміз
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KZ A to be fair you can tell the truth without being quite so depressing 😂
He's thousands of years old and saw the most horrifying things including his wife tormented, at this point most people will be depressed and pessimistic.
@@voidling2632 his wife survived
Anyone else has memorized this by heart?
+deadmanslastwish Yes and a bunch of other parts actually :)
+deadmanslastwish I have the whole movies in my head.
+Balinux me too lol
+deadmanslastwish Whenever I watch this scene, I feel the pain in my heart. It is really heartbreaking and ugly truth. I hold my breath as Arwen does and release at the end of the speech.
Meeeeeee
The dialogue, music and cinematography creates and emotional atmosphere that engages the audience in a compelling way. So beautiful.
That's probably the most powerful scene in film history for me. I wish I could see it for the first time again
The scene is heartbreaking because Aragorn's prophecy was fulfilled. He died at the age of 210 and was buried in Minas Tirith as the greatest man of his time. Arwen left Minas Tirith after his death and went to Lothlorien, a place that had become abandoned now that the elves had gone. The once vibrant woods had grown bleak and lifeless, and it was here that Arwen felt her broken heart too much to bear; she chose to give up her mortal life.
Doesn't matter what kind of mood I'm in, everytime I see this scene & hear that song, I freakin' cry. The loneliness & grief it portrays is haunting.
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I come here to cry when i want ti but cant
"...before the breaking of the world". The photography in this sequence is absolutely perfect: monuments of glory, abandoned architectures once beautiful and now scourged by wind and caressed by leaves. All is grey and all is observed in an infinite instant of decadence.
It's a pity Tolkien never lived to see these films. Such masterpieces! (the original trilogy)
his son,christopher, despites peter jackson and the movies...
Tolkien would have like them, for the most part, Im sure. Christopher is just too conservative about his father's work but he didnt create it. Tolkien himself worked on a planned film that was discarded and was happy to make some changes to movie format (He even made himself important changes as he writes in one of his letters) since he understood is not the same as a book and was never so conservative with his work as Christopher is. He is such a purist because his fathers work are not his but the memory of the art of his father he wants to preserve. Also bed stories that he has dear to his heart thus wants to preserve them as he thinks they should be. Also some people say that the fact he despites the fims is just a rumor. The movies really captures the message of Tolkien's works. Im sure he will have loved this scene and the representation of elves, and Cate blanchett as Galadriel just to say a few.
Alex I also believe that Tolkien would like the movies, especially this scene with arwen. It's such a pity that Christopher didn't want to give more of his father work to peter. I think pj does not want to continue with the Tolkien universe because of that... I don't think it's a rumor, they had a lawsuit with the Tolkien estate
Angelina Pe Lots of respect for Christopher, but he didn’t understand film at all. He understood literature, and it is among the most challenging art forms converting literature to cinema. Jackson did about as good of a job as anyone could have, most people who understand film agree
He didn't even want them made
When a director cares about a 🎥 enough to MAKE SURE it succeeds, you have MASTERPIECE.
Well, Him the actors, the genius composer, the scenery, this is very much beyond a film. This had Divine intervention
Pure poetry. Hugo Weaving's monologue is stunning. I was in awe when i saw this scene on the big screen. Everything is perfect, from the music, scenery to the lighting and costumes. My favorite LOTR scene.
So Betty Ross is going to be a villain like her father the Red Skull?
it‘s exactly from the books but agree with you epic in every way
My favorite scene in the whole trilogy... The music, the poetic tragedy of what is to come, the cinematography, colors... Just perfect.
What's music name???
Plz tell me???
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I like how Arwen is more optimistic about certain things than her father is.
*The Two Towers*:
ELROND: He is NOT coming back. Why do you linger here where there is no hope?
ARWEN: There is still hope.
*The Return of the King*:
ELROND: I looked into your future and I saw death.
ARWEN: There is also life.
*(Later on in the movie)*
ELROND: (To Aragorn) Arwen is dying.
ARWEN: *shows up to Aragorn alive and well at the end*
See what I mean?
+AJcaraballo95
When Arwen confronts Elrond about her son:
Elrond: That future is almost gone.
Arwen: But it is not lost.
+slayr399 Forgot about that one. lol Thanks.
+nathan smith actually yes. in the silmarillion you read that elves envy men in the sense they have short lives so achieve ambition and glory. unlike elves, who are immortal and have little motivation to achieve great things. and bc they live forever, they become sad and cynical and depressed over time seeing how evil the world is
Yep, he is used to tragedy. His wife was captured and tortured by orcs, and left for the Undying lands 500 years before LOTR. Both his twin brother and daughter Arwen choose to be mortal, forcing him to slowly watch them die.
But it didn't really have a happy ending.
Yes, they had children and lived happy but when Aragorn died, Arwen traveled to Loth'lorien and died there by herself.
Galadriel, her grandmother had left with all the other elves a while back.
I think this is the point where cinematography reached its peak.
He could read his grocery list and id still be in awe
What really bothers me is when people say Arwen is a weak female character. There was one video essay I saw where it was claimed that she exists in the plot only for Aragorn's motivation. While she does serve, in many ways, as his incentives, there is so much more to her being in the story. She introduces the theme of death. Immortality is a curse in many ways - living on by oneself forever. One aspect to her choosing a mortal life is for this reason. She knows that being with a person she loves and dying is better than living through all the ages of the world. And choosing to die is so much more significant than her critics like to admit.
You can argue she's "weak" in the book, because she's barely in it. But that's only because the conflict with Elrond about her relationship and choice to be with Aragorn had been settled many years earlier in the timeline of the book. She becomes more interesting in the films because the timeline has been changed, and the conflict with her father about her decision is present right in the middle of the story, and not settled business until the end.
who says she is weak? probably some ugly feminists whom no one wants to date
Arwen chooses death over immortality. There aren’t many things braver.
That is feminist propaganda. And the only strength a feminist values and envies is the masculime strength of might.
How much strength must it take to choose between temporary love and eternal salvation in the hallowed lands knowing the she is dammed either way
video essays are pretentious anyways.
Suffering and love always go hand in hand. When we chose to love, we accept that it's not going to always be sunshine. There will be dark days for love has a high price. But that high price and love is what makes us grow into something far larger than ourselves.
True :(
+janeyrevanescence12 Ay you are a true poet, my friend.
love what you wrote
Thanks;)
sorry. I was talking to janeyrevanescence12 haha ;D
But Arwen went forth from the House, and the light of her eyes was quenched, and it seemed to her people that she had become cold and grey as nightfall in winter that comes without a star. Then she said farewell to Eldarion, and to her daughters, and to all whom she had loved; and she went out from the city of Minas Tirith and passed away to the land of Lórien, and dwelt there alone under the fading trees until winter came. Galadriel had passed away and Celeborn had also gone, and the land was silent.
There at last when the mallorn-leaves were falling, but spring had not yet come, she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by the men that come after, and elanor and nimphredil bloom no more east of the sea.
Saavik256 😢
Saavik256 ❤😭
"At the hill's foot Frodo found Aragorn, standing still and silent as a tree; but in his hand was a small golden bloom of elanor, and light was in his eyes. He was wrapped in some fair memory; and as Frodo looked at him he knew that he beheld things as they once had been in this same place. For the grim years were removed from the face of Aragorn, and he seemed clothed in white, a young lord tall and fair; and he spoke words in the Elvish tongue to one whom Frodo could not see. 'Arwen vanimelda, namárië!' he said, and then he drew a breath, and returning out of his thought he looked at Frodo and smiled.
'Here is the heart of Elvendom on Earth', he said, 'and here my heart dwells ever, unless there be a light beyond the dark roads that we must tread, you and I. Come with me!' And taking Frodo's hand in his, he left the hill of Cerin Amroth and came there never again as a living man."
I take that last sentence as an implication that after his death, Aragorn's spirit followed Arwen, and was with her when she died upon Cerin Amroth. Then they passed on, out of this world and into the great beyond, together.
@@AnnaMarianne i thought i was the only one that remembered that
On the internet you're never alone.
“You will linger on, in darkness and in doubt.” - Those words become sadly relatable with the passing years; remembering vanished faces.
This is the epitome of this trilogy. When I was younger I mostly payed attention to the action, but I later realised that these scenes are what propel the trilogy from being amazing to being absolutely phenomenal
I finally understand why Arwen chose a mortal life.
Imagine living with your parents for almost 3,000 years
“Hail Hydra” -Betty Ross
😂 😂 But actually I would love it! Mine were wonderful and both have now died. Hope to see them again though!
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'But you, my daughter...'
Just hurts man. Beautiful cinematography, performances and dialogue.
And if I remember the books correctly, Arwen died of grief shortly after Aragorn died of old age. Bittersweet relationship.
they still met beyond the bounds of the world
“but, you, my daughter… you will linger on, in darkness and in doubt… as nightfall in winter that comes without a star.”
The pause and then "But YOU, my daughter..."
Goosebumps
This is one of the most beautiful and sad scenes in movie history. The cinematography is absolutely fantastic. It brings tears everytime.
Some of the scenes in the LOTR trilogy are just unbelievable. This one scene is better than the entire Hobbit trilogy IMO.
Every scene is perfect
I would like to reshoot a lot of parts from the hobbit trilogy. It's a shame how much potential these movies had.
The eagles scene in the Hobbit is amazing, also the fight with Sauron, Saruman , galadriel and Elrond, don't be a fanboy
@Nagy Tibor The Hobbit was truly meant to be experienced before The Lord of the Rings. If you have friends or family that haven’t watched the Middle-earth films, I strongly suggest that you show them The Hobbit before LOTR.
To be fair, it’s going to be hard to top these movies, considering how well made they were. It’s better if you watch the Middle-earth films chronologically instead of by order of release.
Trilogy is filled with powerful scenes: Boromir's death, Eomer's attack at helm's depp, Rohan charge at pelennor fields, last march of ents, eagles at black gate - just a few of them. Memorable, powerful moments. But this is like one of the most beautiful and tragic one.
I always come back to this...something about it is just so magical
True bruh..one of the best cinematography ever
Because it our fictional past
Tolkien was the GOAT.
Who else writes like this?!
"He will come to death, an image of the splendor of the kings of men, in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world,
But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt, as nightfall in winter that comes without a star.
Here you will dwell, bound to your grief under the fading trees, until all the world is changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent."
Top top top teir. The poetry, the music the scenes! Masterpiece
This has to be the most beautiful scene in cinematic history.
YES
The mastery of this whole scene with the music, dialogue, acting and visuals is better than any other scene in any movie .. they pulled it off amazingly
What makes this scene so sad is the reality of it. The reality is that he's not wrong. Even though the ring is destroyed and the armies of evil defeated, he still isn't wrong. Arwen will have to face this very problem one day, evil or no evil, son or no son. She will have to see the man she loves die and one day she will even seen the son she loves die. She will have to suffer through the grief and loneliness. It's a message that's true to real life. When going through grief it is hard to not feel completely and utterly alone.
I'm a grown man, but there's no shame in admitting that when I first saw this scene my eyes got blurred from tears.
Get a sex change pansy
This is one of the most beautiful scenes in the trilogy, IMO. Not only is the music top-notch, but the writing is amazing and really evokes that sense of tragic beauty that was ever-present in Tolkien's writing, especially in the Silmarillion. Arwen and Aragorn's relationship was very much a comparision and allusion to the tale of Luthien and Beren, the fair elf-maiden daughter of great elven king and the strong kingly son of a noble lord of men. In that tale, Luthien's lovely song enchanted the heart of Beren, who was wandering lost in the woods of her father's realm, and together they fell in love. However, her father, King Thingol, would not simply allow his beloved daughter to marry a mortal, so he instructed him to complete an impossible quest in order to earn his favor. The story ends in tragedy, as Beren is slain in a dark fortress, and Luthien journeyed all the way to the Halls of Mandos, the house of the dead, and sang a song that told of her heartbreak. Mandos was so moved by this display of sorrow and love that he promised to return Beren to life, but they would both become mortal. She took that deal, and together Luthien and Beren had a mighty posterity, their great-grandsons being Elros, the first of the Numenorean kings (Aragorn's ancestors) and Elrond himself.
Arwen is often compared in the books to Luthien, carrying the same solemn beauty that captured the hearts of mortal men. And Aragorn wore the Ring of Barahir, which was once worn by Beren, a symbol of that great lineage of men. The one conflict that continues through the Silmarillion and into the Lord of the Rings is that men die but elves live on, forced to burden the sorrows and troubles of the past into the next generations. Elrond wanted Arwen to leave to Valinor, the Undying Lands, not only to prevent her from having the burden of losing Aragorn, but also to save her from being one of the last great elves to tarry in Middle Earth as her people fade to obscurity. At surface-level, Elrond could be seen as being somewhat selfish, forcing Arwen to choose between Aragorn and her people, but he really just wanted her to be happy in the end.
2:52 Notice she calls him "ada," not "adar."
She didn't say "father," she said "dad"/"daddy."
It hits super hard
She is beautiful...she looks like an angel
Screenplay, cinematography sound track acting incredible. This is probably my favourite scene in any movie, it's perfect. Everytime I watch it I get feels, Hugo Weaving was perfectly cast. Can't believe these movies are nearly 20 years old. Thanks.for the upload
A man does not age, he decays.
He does not die, he comes to death.
Glory does not diminish, it dims.
The world does not end, it breaks.
A widow does not survive, she lingers.
Trees do not wither, they fade.
Years are not lived, they are spent.
This
Every scene in Lotr is made by pure love and passion, every scene is like a poetry, painting.
We will never see anything like this ever again
Seeing Aragorn dead just hits you like a ton of bricks.
1:01 Goosebumps every time...
The music is so beautiful and fits the scene perfectly. It is called "Evenstar"
Ú i vethed...
nâ i onnad.
Si boe ú-dhannathach
Ae ú-esteliach nad
Estelio han
estelio veleth.
This is not the end...
It is the beginning.
You cannot falter now
If you trust nothing else
Trust this
Trust love.
Beautiful
+Auranfox~ Hey thanks for the song title ..I was trying like hell to get the name of this beautiful song..
don pep
Not at all, I was struggling to find it too after the first time I heard it! Glad to have been of help :)
+Auranfox~ The writing looks like Scottish Celtic.
xWHITExEAGLEx The actual elvish language is quite beautiful as well, I think it looks similar to Gaelic. Tolkein was amazing!
“He will come to death. An image of the splendor of the kings of men, in glory, undimmed, before the breaking of the world.”
Pure poetry
At first I thought that he disapproved of Aragorn but I now know he was trying to protect his daughter from the consequences of mortality
Gosh, this is painfully beautiful. The visuals, the music, the actors, the scenery, the voice of Elrond and his forecast. The ethereal beauty of Liv Tyler. this scene alone is masterpiece.
That gown, that veil, absolutely breathtaking; everything, so breathtaking.
an image of the splendor of the kings of men
... favorite quote.
...nightfall in winter that comes without a star ... other favorite.
"If Sauron is defeated and Aragorn made king, and all that you hoped for comes true, he will still have to face the bitterness of mortality. . . . And there will be no comfort for you."
Tell that to your grandmother.
The difference is Beren and Luthien died together (the second time anyways). Also, Melian was just as sad as Elrond when she saw that Luthien made up her own doom by choosing to be with Beren.
*great-grandmother
This was done for only 20 years ago and this is still feeling so magical after these years. Especially with Liv Tyler. I cannot imagine how will our descendants perceive in 1,000 years later, but this is so incredible.
"I would rather share one lifetime with you than face all the ages of this world alone." This is how I would like to love
I just love the poetic dialogue in Lord of the Rings... Every word, every sentence is so beautifully crafted and the actors and the score deliver them perfectly. I fall in love with the movies every time I watch them once more. That´s real cinema magic right there.
The music is absolutely beautiful, and the elves are all heavenly, ethereal, stunning, and gorgeous.
this alone captures what amazon prime can not. such a beauty indeed.
While Elrond call her name and her tears were falling down, her breathe had come from deep like waking up from a nightmare.. That moment takes me away
one of the greatest monologues in film history
This scene is always the saddest out of the trilogy for me. The scenes of Aragorn's tomb, Gondor abandoned and Arwen walking alone through the dying woods makes my heart ache like nothing else. The cinematography and music truly sell the sense of loneliness and despair.
This is easily one of the best and poetic scenes in the entire cinema history
"You will linger on, in darkness, and in doubt, as night fall in winter that comes without a star." that's deep!
But you my daughter.... That line echoes deep into the ocean bed and back. So much intense emotions in this scene.
I’m literally tearing up and have goosebumps. Such a beautiful scene and the music. Wow just wow