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I think the only thing that sucks about that style bag is that they are more difficult to fill.
Exactly. That’s where the CNOC wins. I burst mine on sharp stones on a riverbed when I was filling it though. That wouldn’t happen with the Sawyer bag.
Blow into the bag. It will stay open like a bottle.
My last backpacking trip we were kind of high up on the gorge and a lot of the streams were dry (since it hasn’t rained in forever) and I couldn’t get any water from water sources I tried because I couldn’t fill my smartwater bottle or the Sawyer bag (the water was shallow and not running). I’m guessing the wide open end of the Cnoc bottle would have probably worked better for those sorts of water sources, or I could cut the end off one of those flimsy water bottles and use it as a scoop…
@@jeffreycarman2185 I use the Hydrapak 1L bottle now with the sport cap, best combo I’ve had yet Jeff.
Agree with all this. There are significant differences with what I refer to as east vs. west of the Mississippi: humidity for down vs synthetic, soil type for stakes, water filtering for desert sediment vs mountain stream, etc.
I had a great convo with a vendor on their dog “cooling vest” which is an evaporative cooling process. With the humidity in southeastern NC there is hardly any evaporative cooling that takes place in the summer. They ended up saying it was better for the western US.
A lot of the best/worst product videos really are dependent on the area of the country but not a lot of folks new to the outdoors necessarily recognize this.
Bryce, you haven't taken your straps off because you really need to learn ro use them. Take some cross-country (Nordic) ski lessons. I can unwrap a snack with the poles dangling from my wrists and go right back to using the poles when I am done. I also constantly adjust my poles on the fly without taking one off and putting it down. No stopping. Shorten poles for uphills and lengthen them for downhills without stopping. I'm sending this from the Appalachian Trail in Vermont in this middle of my thruhike at the age of 70.
Tinker.
Trekking poles should function like cross country ski poles… balance, not weight. The best benefit for me is keeping my hands up and moving so I don’t get swollen little sausage fingers!
Side note: aluminum rain gutter nails are the best and cheapest ground stakes!
I never used trekking poles until the past 10 years or so but I have been a Nordic skier for almost 50 years. You always put your hand up through the bottom of the strap to grasp the pole so the strap goes across the back of your wrist. This is important because as you move along, especially uphill, you can just guide the poles with your fingertips and let your wrists and arms take the weight instead of your hands. Try it some time. Additionally you can really wreck your thumb or wrist if the strap is used incorrectly. Also completely agree about the Sawyer bags. I do use a Cnoc 2L bag for convenience but carry a Sawyer as a backup when needed.
Agreed on the pole strap use. Not so much on the Sawyer.
You are after my own ❤. Fk sun hoodies for the east. It gets so humid in the east and Ont in summer, loose button downs make more sense. And so do thin shepherds hook ti stakes. I wiggle mine into rocky ground with ease and great holding power. But I also carry mised stakes. Some Groundhogs, ti sheps, MSR Carboncore etc. a variety.
As for using straps on trekking poles, I was taught by a guide in the Andes Mountains to use the strap across the palm and back of the hand and NOT place your hand all the way through the strap loop up to your wrist. Just FYI.
For me the reason I upgraded to a CNOC bladder didn’t have anything to with the durability of the Sawyer bag and everything to do with how FAR easier the CNOC bag is to fill. In the time it takes to fill a Sawyer bag I can be done filtering with the CNOC.
The only thing I don’t like about the sawyer bags is that it is difficult to get the water INTO them to squeeze out. The CNOC’s bags are too big for my hands and every single time I’ve used I soak myself somehow. I like the Be Free with the wider mouth and a hyropack to attach. I’m still working on the CNOC to make it work for me.
Strap under thumb is correct (hand up through loop). This way you do not have to actually grip the pole, the strap provides positive stop for weight bearing, and your hands do not get cold from gripping.
There’s a reason every landscaper wears a long sleeve shirt when they work. The long sleeve is cooler with the correct materials. It gets wet when you sweat and the wind blows and cools you against the wet clothing.
We gear up in the South. Long pants, long (cotton) shirt or hoodie. That's right, also with cotton, bamboo, hemp or other lightweight absorbent material. You will perish is you wear those poly/nylon/plastic condoms that "wick" moisture away. Ha... it's just rolls off like a waterfall and the material melts to your skin. Your right with ur comment. Sort of a radiator concept of cooling. Ain't nobody dying of hypothermia this time of year.
I AGREE....the Sawyer bag lasting is all about technique...do it the right way and it can/may/should last
Tent stakes - I carry a (3/4 in?) pvc cap to cover the top end of the stake when putting into the ground - protects hands and boots.
Trekking poles: I try to use mostly my wrists, keeping my elbows relatively stationary at my side. The poles can naturally swing themselves forward. I think that saves quite a bit of energy by not swinging your entire arm. There are times (up or down steep slopes) where you may have to use your entire arm. I also try to place the tips close to rocks, tree roots that I may trip over. The pole acts as a bit of a fence so that I naturally step around the "hazard" - I now rarely stumble, which robs energy. I also think straps are very necessary. My poles can frequently stick in soft ground and which can yank the pole out of my hand - the strap keeps me from dropping it. I can just use light pressure to grip the pole, which I think keeps my hands more comfortable on long days.
I laugh when people say the Sawyer bags suck.
And sun hoodies and humidity are a NO GO 😁😁😁
Your videos are fun, move along briskly, and provide helpful info. Thank you. Cheers.
Interesting that you bring up the sun hoody. I usually hike and backpack in CO and love my OR sun hoody. Last week, I hike up to a hut for an overnight in the Whites of NH and was melting in the humidity. I never even thought about changing out of the hoody. Lesson learned.
Very informative, thank you!
Agreed, all points. I am in the NE and boil in the lightweight UVA shirts, never broke a Sawyer bag, and a big fan of trekking poles. I like MSR Groundhogs, but really like the MSR Needles that came with my tent. Great video, see you outside!
North Eastener here, I will hike topless on a humid day. Will also try to stay in a 'green tunnel' and next to water to cool off easily. I will also carry a sport cooling towel to help keep me from overheating.
I've become a fan of needle stakes. Small, lightweight, and beefier than shepherds hook stakes.
Sawyer bags only suck for filling them. I use a scoop and have no trouble with them. 🦑
My friend bought a brand new filter and it broke within the first day. He wasn't misusing it either. It didn't "pop", but the plastic creased in a way that caused a hole around the top of the bag.. just an anecdote. Personally I use the cnoc simply for easy of use. I can filter a ton of water extremely fast with it.. worth the weight.
Great video as always! Totally agree on all of these! My regret is that I didn't make this video for my channel!!
Always enjoy your stuff. Just keep them coming!!
As a Virginia native I vehemently agree that it is indeed humid as F@#$ in the southeast.
Love your vids! Thank you so much for this info!
I live and pack in the West but I hate long sleeves even the best wicking materials. Just a personal preference - i love being in a tank top instead BUT long sleeves do rock for keeping bug bites and sunburn at bay. And you don't need to carry as much sunscreen and bug stuff if wearing long sleeves and long pants too. Sigh...
trekking poles ... using the strap will do multiple things, firstly let your hands rest through a large portion of the motion, and also let you transfer more load and for a longer part of the movement than not using them - optimum use of the pole is definitely with strap :)
I’m 65 yrs old and hike/backpack in Big Cypress in S FL. I use trekking poles every time. For me they are essential for hiking through mud and knee/thigh deep water. I watched a video on Follow Bigfoot’s channel about proper technique for trekking pole use. Oh, and I have Cascade poles, they work great.
I love shepherd hook stakes! I use them 90% of the time.
Agree with (almost) all your points. IMO, the common misuse of gear usually originates from people simply taking things at face value (as stated by an "expert") and not giving it any independant thought or testing. Everyone has a bit of a different style...and there is room for variation in technique. As long as that variation does not involve impractical or counterproductive actions, it is fine. (A really good example is your trekking pole technique.)
I strongly agree as regards a key concept on which you touched-
That is, take your time ! NO need to be in such a hurry that you bend a stake or bust a water bag, etc.
The one difference I have with you, as regards trekking pole technique, is that I DO use a wrist lanyard. The reason I do this is so that I can take some of the force required OFF of my hand (a bit lighter grip)...and transfer some of the thrusting force to my wrist, via the strap. I do this because I have arthritis in my hands - gripping anything tightly is a problem for me. But, the lanyard/strap thing probably falls within the aforementioned idea of accepatable variation of "style".
Anyway, good video. I very much like your practical, down to earth take on these things. I have the same sort of practical bent, myself, which sometimes leads to bucking the "fashion" of the day. Life is too short to always follow the herd...
My 5 year old Sawyer bag still works fine, but I carry a Cnoc because it's easier and faster to fill in our mountains streams, especially the trickles at the end of summer. Also, you are so correct on tent pegs, people use the incorrect angle all the time!
Same here for the Sawyer bag. My issue with those bags is that it is harder to fill than a Cnoc bag. Otherwise, i dont mind the Sawyer bags.
Definitely agree on the sun hoodie point. I'm in South Carolina and around here you're always in the green tunnel and the humidity is a million percent. So yea no sun hoodie for me during the summer.
Agree with all. And the Schills hate on those Ti Shepherd Hooks.
I don’t like the CNOC bags because they give water a plastic taste. I like the Sawyer bags.
And on trekking pole technique - I recently learned that I can keep pushing rearward on the pole (pushing myself forward) until my arm is extended straight with the pole (like doing a tricep extension). Gives me more propulsion per pole plant. And you’re right - your poles should always be at or behind your feet.
In the East I felt like I needed to hike in a bathing suit. :) Good job saying "Cnoc" correctly.
I split two sawyer bags in my first week on the AT. I replaced them with two 1.5 liter soda bottles from a Dollar General. They lasted through Maine and several years beyond. I finally replaced them when they became virtually opaque from scuffs. I’m told that large soda bottles can withstand 100 psi. Don’t know why more people don’t use them!
Really enjoy your videos. I would be interested in what's in your pack.
I like the realness. I'm trying to start my own outdoor channel rn @staywild4u and took a good bit from this. The only real issue I've had with my sawyer bags is that they are hard to fill. I've never had one bust, but I've had one Leak where it had been folded too many times. I end up using my grayl more often anyways because the water in Oklahoma is awful and tastes like crap when I just use a sawyer. Grayl helps with that a ton, water tastes CRISP coming out of that thing. The other half is the stakes. I love my BA dirt daggers. But I've also never bent a stake unless I was in super rocky ground and knew it was a risk I was about to take. I don't understand how some people go through stakes like they're underwear 😒.
First trip with a sawyer bag and it popped right where yours did, except I wasn't applying that much pressure. I was SOL until I realized that my water bottle had the same fitting 😅 I still have one sawyer bag that is unused, I'll give it another shot. But I get both sides to that argument.
Sawer Bags suck .I carry 3 smart Water bottles using one to collect from water source and leave the filter on it. Seen tent pegs pushed in at wrong angle a million times. Last year on the AT A Girl at a shelter tried to push an Alloy tent Stake in with her foot with Crocks on..Went through her right Crock and up into her Right Foot..Her hike was over for a while
Should have addressed how long and difficult it is to fill a Sawyer bag. Takes forever compared to BeFree or Platypus. Hand will get cold AF while filling it up as well. Filtering water into bottle or container isn’t the issue.
Keep moving South (coastal AL), and the hoodies come back into play. Oddly enough, not for fishing, but for freaking bugs. Damn it man, I want to move! Listen...Florida Trail is 20 miles South of me. It's like the Bataan Death March. Sort of like the Hot Chip Challenge. I dare you to start Southbound right now. 96F, 85%rh and no breeze that was at 4pm. If that doesn't kill ya, the thunderstorms w/high winds and lightning, alligators, wild hogs, bears and snakes will. I think I'll take 2 weeks off, then quit, then move. Thanks for the videos, dude, I enjoy them.
it sounds adventurous tho!
@wregrasser7540 if you can make it on your own there you can make it on your own anywhere. Don't wait to move like I did, do it now.
1. You will get UV on the east coast, no exceptions, I have gotten FRYED by the sun.
2. Sawyer bag sucks to fill compared to a CNOC, and compared to a bottle it’s just less durable. I get it, your sawyer bag can hold up but a smart-bottle’s just better in terms of dimensions, durability, the fact it’s clear, etc.
3 and 4 are fine
Totally agree 😊
Funny.. My sun hoodie is my sleep hoodie for winter backpacking. I never wear it in the sun.
Also my sawyer bags always start leaking by the bottle neck, A small hole will develop right where the hard plastic meets with the rest of the bottle. I dont really think Ive put too much pressure on there, I think it just gets a hotspot from me rolling the bag up to store it.
Love sawyer but my only ever sawyer bag broke the second time i used it and i didn't squeezed it hard. Maybe just a bad batch but it was used exactly like u said it should be
CNOC is unnecessarily thick and heavy, and mine leaked on a multi-day hike in the desert. My Sawyer though, 2 years later, it's looking nasty but it works as well as it did on day 1.
Bryce!! You always speak my language. I love how you always bust those myths. People are scared to try things on their own and get their own conclusions. Wait, there's just one thing I don't agree with you... The backpacking chair thingy!!!😅😅
Do you even lift bro? 😂 It’s Sawyer’s fault really, they named it the squeeze
Do you even squeeze bro? Yeah, you're right, it's Sawyer's fault.
Hahahahah
The Shepherd Hooks actually have an advantage because they're quite slim. They can get between the rocks in the ground. 😅
so true
Omg I wore a sun hoodie a couple weeks ago and I almost died. It was so dumb - it was super humid and I was in a green tunnel all day. I decided my sun hoodie will be retired until the fall as long as I’m hiking in Michigan.
I see so many people wearing sun hoodies in the ANF I always wandered why.
I’ve had zero problems with my Platypus filter system.
Agree 100% on the sun hoody, but it is doable, the hoodie you're wearing is not very breathable. I wear an OR Echo hoodie every day all summer in the heat and humidity, just saying.
Sawyer bags....agree. My buddy Mike popped my 6 year old Evernew bag in 30 seconds because he just squeezed too hard. Smart water bottle....yea you should just use a bottle. It works great. You just have to figure out how to use it correctly. I think we're due for another hike. Lets take a walk and I'll give you a crash course....😂
That's cool, I live in Wooster Ohio
nice! i run up there sometime. Super Bull 50k!
Yeah I'm from Ohio to way too humid for a sun hoodie it does have a time and place for it but I'm good lol
I cut my straps off the trekking poles I hate them and I like to move my hands around and switch hands. I only use one though.
Until this video, I had never heard of sun hoodie. I've worked in landscaping and other jobs in the sun in the Phoenix metro area all day and I wear a circle brimmed hat and long sleeves that j can roll up. I'm not an avid hiker or long distance hiker, but a sun goodie seems to specialized and too close to the skin.
I subbed because of the ideas and the humor.
Way too much content here that could quite possibly end with..
_Thats_ _what_ _she_ _said_
Sawyer bags do suck. It’s not an issue of them busting, it’s an issue of them being practically impossible to fill, especially out of shallow water sources.
The entire back of the CNOC opens, hence why people recommend them.
I’m of the opinion that Sawyer sucks period. I’ll take my BeFree that filters 10x quicker without subjecting myself to a grip strength workout any day of the week
Actually, it is generally known that using poles makes you burn more energy than without them because you are constantly using and straining your arms as well. In long-distance running it is always advised to keep the arms as still as possible because of it. So if you use them believing they save energy and make you go longer, you're actually wrong and better off just leaving them at home. Of course, on steeper hills up or down they do offer more balance, stability and safety so their actual benefit becomes 50-50 or so. In general, on flat walking areas you're better off clipping them to your pack. I do NOT use trekking poles but a wooden custom made walking stick that I only use for ascending and descending hillsides. ;)
I have personally popped three sawyer bags in the exact same spot.
My wrists are too wide to go through the bottom of most hiking pole straps lol
Actually LOL'd at "get a cnoc" ... bruh
It is the bag. I've tried to be careful and ALWAYS busted it over a few days. It's bad.
I hike in New England. I use sun hoodies for bug protection. Yeah, I feel like I'm dying, but not bug bites. I just drink ALL THE WATER.
Vermonter here... VT is famous for its Green Tunnel, so even this pasty hiker rarely gets too much sun. Having said that, I never hike in the spring or summer without my sun hoodie, primarily because the black flies, mosquitos and deer flies in the Northeast are seriously hard-core. I know -- that's what bug spray is for, but I'm not in a hurry to add to the chemical cocktail we are exposed to every day.
Hi Bryce, fellow buckeye. Do you happen to know if the Mohican park and pack sites are open? Also love your videos.
Yes they are open
@@sonnyboywannabe Thank you, I have called and left messages and even messaged the dept of forestry with no response 👍
I don't know about the Sawyer struggles, I'm a be free snobb
Yeah I have to admit I'm also a Befree snobb like you
i dont use loops cause if i go down i dont want to be in em ..it could cause serious injury in my opinion
Its been humid as balls here... And the bugs and ticks right now are ruthless right now. Stay safe out there drink all the water and electrolytes you got!
Get that pinky in. Lol
I always feel like... Curtis is judging me
@@BryceNewbold Haha. Got your certificate though by God. Lol
What shoes are you wearing?
I'm that guy that you and your daughter walked by at Mohican site 9 a few winters ago. Do you know what the deal is with those sites? Are they ever going to open them back up?
I didn't know they were closed. Havnt been there in awhile. Heading there today or tomorrow to just film stuff actually
@@BryceNewbold Yep pretty sure there's no more Pack and Hike spots. The signup sheet maps and all at the kiosk are gone. I went by there last week.
I'm sending you the pile of Sawyer bags I have, that I will never use, and, are taking up space.....
I see you hiking in those HOKA Speedgoat 4s. The best shoe! The 5s are such a downgrade.
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What part of Ohio? I’m in western PA about 45 mins north of pittsburgh.
Ultralight hikers are the worst at always telling me how I'm doing things " wrong " or " carrying stuff I don't need " as if I didn't know what I packed in my bag in the first place. Yes, I could save a few ounces if I stopped carrying my micro fan but man that thing is great for a hot humid night in my tent and keeps the airflow moving causing almost no moisture build up on my tent walls. Kinda crazy how much gatekeeping the UL groups are and you're so unlikely to run into these people on the trail.
As an older woman, the fan is essential in summer. Like saves the lives of people around me. Chair and umbrella because I'm a princess.
None of the gear links are working for me
Another mistake is rolling up tent doors...
I just realized im using trekking poles wrong!
Wait a minute...I was supposed to be squeezing it this whole time? And here I thought it was the sawyer Drop. My bad
That one got to me 😆👍
Hey I also live in ohio
No piece of gear will continue to perform flawlessly if you abuse it.
Your irresponsible water filtering... hahaha.
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No promos in this one
Do u still drink ur tang bombs.
Wow! First time watching your videos. I have to disagree on a lot of your content. Sun hoodies block the sun on my 67 yr. old face buy it protects you big time from mosquitoes. Shepherd hook stakes do not work in half rocky Sierra soil. The loop on the hiking poles are made to be used to maintain a light grip on your hiking poles. Also why do you need to replace your Sawyer Squeeze every couple of years. (Maybe you should do a video on that). Your giving people misinformation. Sorry Bro!
Mosquitos can bite through sun hoodies easily. I've gotten eaten alive in them. They can't bite through rain/wind layers that are not woven. As far as the sun goes. I talk about not needing them if there is no sun exposure. You miss that part? As far a the stakes go, I literally said there is a time and place for them. I replace my filter often because it gets compromised if it freezes. Some times im unsure if mine froze or not do to be safe I just get a new one. Plus new ones have better flow and taste than old ones. This is my experience and opinion. I think you only heard what you wanted to hear in the video. I never said don't use the straps of poles either. I said "i" don't use them. That is not misinformation. That is truth.
@@BryceNewbold Sorry Bruce, didn’t want to be mean spirited. I try to wear a Patagonia Capilene Base layer under my hoodie. Seems to work, didn’t have any mosquitoes biting me. And they were swarming last weekend. Anyway sorry, if I came across too critical. Take care and have fun backpacking
Bryce look, you just got reccomend on my feed so I don't want to put you out or anything because you seem you petty knowledge and well hiked. But man. You lost my respect by defending the sawyer bags....
I think maybe you're talking to a very novice audience. Your tips seem to be directed towards inexperienced hikers and backpackers. If your target demographic is new/immature hikers then i would say keep it up. But to be honest the points you made in this video are moot and too played out. Plenty of other TH-cam personalities and thru-hiking vlogs have paroted the same points you are trying to make. I see that you are trying to be nuisanced in your presentation but ultimately it fails because your monolouge is redundant and inconsistent. Dump some more effort into editing and lose the sad sense of insecurity and maybe you could push past 50k subscribers.
Good content. You fucking hilarious.
Hate squeezing. Cnoc and gravity.