Lots of wiffle waffle going on 😂for sure. I've had folk try to shoot me down many times in the early days. It just makes me realise who my real TH-cam friends are and I appreciate them even more and they will always have my back as I will have theirs. Love what you are both doing, keep up the brilliant videos, good content🎉
A lot of it is handbags at dawn, at least that’s how it all seems to me. For some strange reason, certain bigger channels feel threatened about the tiddlers. I’d rather just do my own thing, and not get drawn in. I originally started, so that my wife (who can no longer ride pillion), could see where we had been, and consider it a bonus that other people enjoy them too. I love the chat from people all around the world. Keep it simple 🤗
You’ve got it spot on guys….for myself I have disengaged from the “heat of battle” since my comment on Moto Tingles channel…..there are lessons for all of us here….time to move on….life is simply too short (especially for us fossils 😊). Thanks again for a refreshing, sobering and much needed call for calm which I for one will be heeding in full….respect 🙏
So glad to hear you say Dave. From an avid watcher it's distressing to hear or read the acrimony. Not for what I watch you guys and gals to experience! Cheers!
@@thebingleywheeler I love your channel and this one and SFs but refuse to watch any video when it becomes negative about other people - slag the bikes off by all means but ....
I think TH-cam is a marvellous thing and have from day one tried to encourage people to give it a go, if only for an excuse to get out on your bike. I constantly try to promote others and think of it as big family that I want to see thrive 😊 The negative comments I get are thankfully few put some seem to try really hard to offend but fail 99.9% of the time. 😊 The indirect snipes from some of the bigger channels are the most annoying because there simply isn’t any need for it. 😊 Thanks for doing this video to hi-light the ridiculousness of the petty squabbling 😊 Love you both 😊❤
Thank you Taym for such a great comment. You've summed up our view on why we do this perfectly. I wish you all the best on the platform and if course offline too! Have good weekend 😀, Sean
I will be honest as a motorcyclist of 45 years and the founder of a motorcycling group with 2300 members for the last 11 years and probably the worlds smallest TH-cam podcast on motorcycling. I have been really disappointed by this reaction we have seen about the BSA, it takes me back to school where the competitive guys fall out with each other because they feel threatened and their mates get behind them and start throwing insults at each other and at their mates and I’ve got to be honest it’s been a bit of a shock and a reminder that the most innocuous comment can be taken the wrong way, sometimes on purpose and twisted to create a problem when actually it could be completely avoided. Thanks Sean and Susie for bringing it up though I think many of us have been watching this from a distance and shaking our heads a bit.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist it was hard at first with these negative comments coming through, but you do get used to it and you hardened up to the reality. Just ignore them. Fortunately, the percentile is very low. Keep the great videos coming.
Yes, I can believe that. I got an opportunity to ride bikes at Midwest Moto when I had 1,500 subscribed. Always very grateful they took a chance on my videos back then 🙏
For the love of motorcycles, that is all that matters. TH-cam is not the playground and I don't care who gang is bigger than anyone else's. It should just be about sharing your love of bikes.
I gave up on Fillingham years ago when he went from vlogging to recording a bit of B-roll and talking over it at home, falling ever more down the conspiracy rabbit hole to draw in gullible viewers. And I can't say I've ever heard of Mr Tingle. I like you two for your fun, and I'll be honest, your amateurism, you're not so ridiculously slick and I don't ever feel you're doing it just for the numbers. Freddie, well Freddie is Freddie, wonderfully naive at times, charming as always, I'm occasionally mystified as to why I'm watching someone's holiday, but it's always enjoyable. So keep it up, please. Stay out of trouble and let the kiddies fight over the sweets in the playground.
I keep thinking ‘wouldn’t it be great if we could just reset TH-cam and go back to the days where we all filmed for our own enjoyment, and uploaded it simply because others might be interested or it might provide help to them’. That’s how I view my own channel as someone who is just getting started. It’s a hobby, I film what I want and what I think might be of use or interest, and that’s it. The problems start when the monetisation starts, and then starts to snowball as more views=more subs=more advertising money=need for more, more, more. And then it becomes a scramble for who can get the bike first, put up the first video, get a higher share of views= the cycle as stated above. But that being said, I do not condone anyone producing videos that set out to deceive the viewer, or not be wholly truthful in what is being portrayed, and if that’s how someone wants to run their channel, then I think it’s right as a community, that it’s challenged and called out. What if, as a result of Mr Tingle’s video, BSA bikes are branded problematic, their reputation is shot, and the company folds or withdraws from the UK market. We’ve just lost (again) a historic brand, brought back from the dead, that have produced a decent bike for not a lot of money? And that video is based upon information that may or may not be wholly truthful, just because it’s current, and could get a lot of views, etc, etc. That would be tragic.
I covered that exact topic in my next Spain installment, BSA have to keep putting out fires left right and centre due to this, it's really unpleasant sadly...
Very well made points. It’s pathetic really, grown men (in the vast majority) behaving like playground bullies. It’s been my experience that bullies are trying to mask their own insecurity and inadequacy. Keep up the good work !
totally agree with what you both have said , did`nt realise fillingham was such a merchant banker, wish there were more channels like you and 2 wheeled willie
Agreed i used to subscribe but when he intimated my GoldStar was most likely rusty and left outside i was incensed at his stupidity and unsubscribed immediately.
Great video guys and well said!! It is sad that bigger You Tubers think its okay to spread negativity towards other You Tube channels, ive stopped watching and unsubscribed from a couple because of exactly that...Suze's is exactly right... lets all have a naked cuddle ..love you guys 😘
Anyone can set up their own channel. Hence there are some lovely genuine folk out there. There are also some folk out to blag whatever they can. Quite a few prima donnas and a fair few people who if you actually knew them, you would likely actively avoid. What I saw this morning from Uncle Fillingham was one of the most tedious things I've ever watched on TH-cam. There will always be disagreements between people who have had different experiences, but it really shouldn't result in handbags at dawn. I will always recall Fillingham a couple of years ago telling everyone not to go near BSA, now hes telling us all they are fantastic. Make of that what you will. But you're quite right; a bit of tolerance is what's called for.
i started watching Shaun when we ran the same R E Meteor in the bronze colour 2021 . have been subscribed since then . also i enjoy your work together , Suzie is a really upbeat person which is refreshing . you would make an excellent presenter . i am 75 , wife 73 and had bikes all our lives . dont change you are nice as you both are .
I've lost count of the number of bike vblog/review channels that I've subscribed to, got bored, and unsubscribed! I occasionally watch Freddie, just for the entertainment value. One guy that I do watch a lot is Nathan the Postman. His reviews are normally pretty direct, warts and all! Some complain that all he's doing is promoting his business, but why not! Being the first to review a new bike doesn't mean much to me if, due to demand on the bike, it's ridden around the block, and a verdict is given! When I get a new bike, it generally takes me a few weeks riding to really determine what I like and don't like about it. And some reviewers are so partisan that you know which bikes they'll rave about and which they'll hate, and some just love every bike that they swing a leg over! Anyway, keep eating the popcorn and keep on doing what you're doing! 👍
Ey up you two, I’ve watched both of these people and watch loads and don’t take sides myself tho I do comment but am impartial even either way and don’t slag anyone off on any channel or argue,they both or all need to calm it down really it’s only motorcycles if you look at other channels motorcycles are nothing in comparison but as you say they’re supposed to be enjoyable that’s the whole point isn’t it 😊😊😊a hobby great ramble you two All the best Phil
A valid question, but at the same time I couldn't not say anything and we tried to keep the message positive, we of course did not take sides or insult anyone directly.
Love you guys, your channel is one of my favourites, subscribed since you had the Meteor Sean, and bought one, now quite fancy adding a Bsa650 to keep the Meteor company. You are both very level headed and work great as a double act and that’s why I watch your videos.I watch the channels I enjoy and love your reviews and your chat, That’s what it should be about the right to choose, if someone doesn’t give me an interesting video I switch off. There are plenty of good channels on here to choose from Big and Small. You guys keep doing what you’re doing, it’s what makes your channel great.👍
I see this all the time! My channel was a mixed one before just bikes, I used to do RC stuff as well. You would not believe what went on on the RC side, got quite serious at one point (nothing to do with me I hasten to add) Recently I have had offers from manufactures to review stuff, and I must admit I was anxious taking these offers as I felt a bit of a fraud being only a wee sub 3k channel! However then I thought, you know what I have been at this 5 years, maybe I am being recognised so why not! Luckily I have not had any back lash and some pretty positive response so all good, I love making videos and I love watching videos that's what its all about surely? Anyway great video guys, lets all be positive
Well said.. I'm biker on the opposite age range to you, and live in Worcestershire... I for one think we need to attract younger riders by the benefits the biking community offers. I personally love your videos and the way you present them. Maybe some utubers take themselves way too seriously. Keep up the great work.
Well said guys. We’ve just got to remember - We’re all on the same side! There’s enough pressure on motorcycling from outsiders these days without fighting amongst ourselves. Everyone is allowed their own opinions and as long as they are constructive and informative that’s great. There is absolutely no need for rudeness or threatening behaviour, that’s just playing into the hands of the people who want to see an end of motorcycling. Come on guys keep it light and remember why we ride 👍
Hi Sean/Suzie- Nice job; you guys are always better together. You looked great Suzie. Your spirits were really up. Sean- I really liked that green sweater & hat. Suzie- you really looked pretty in pink. That view off of that hill that you were walking was breathtaking. Have a beautiful day! Cheers! Suzie; keep getting out in nature because that will help to heal you. Later! Illinois, USA
Great video Sean and suzie,some of the vloggers are missing the point of enjoyment especially the Mr big, you just keep doing what you're doing it's great to watch, i totally agree with you you especially about 2 wheel Willie, so easy to watch, just normal people having fun on motorcycles and sharing the experience, keep up the great work, 🙂👍🇬🇧🏍❤️
Seen a few channels that have grown and started to take themselves way too seriously and I’ve had to unsubscribe from a few through basic annoyance. Nice vid by you two! 👍
You are right guys. Of course, everything gets complicated when money/business gets in the middle. One thing they should all remember is, it's not about them! It just isn't! It's about all of us who like bikes! Simple as that really! No one is more or less "entitled" to enjoy motorcycling! We all face the same difficulties in life! From the UK to Thailand, from the US to South Africa, we all face the same BS in life & particularly regarding motorcycles! There are developments coming our way that will make the use of motorcycles even harder (in some areas they have already began) so I don't think pettiness is the best way to try & prepare for them.
I love obsession community , I've been obsessed with VW, keeping Fit and now I want get into bike's as well. So watch a lot of TH-cam on the biking and what bike to get. Thing is whare there are communities, there is money to be made on TH-cam, shows ,merchandise , and people always fall out over money 🤔. Thank you for fun ,giggles and good advice 😊
There's a psychological term for it: narcissism of small differences. "..the idea that the more a relationship or community shares commonalities, the more likely the people in it are to engage in interpersonal feuds and mutual ridicule because of hypersensitivity to minor differences perceived in each other".
Thanks for an excellent, sane video which reminded me why I started watching motorcycle videos on YT in the first place - fun! I have followed Stuart Fillingham for a number of years and I admit I have learned a lot of useful practical motorcycle stuff from him for which I'm very grateful. However I've felt for a while that he has been drifting further and further away from the fun, relaxing side of things. He's entitled to his political views (which I don't necessarily share) and he's right to keep banging the drum about actual or possible threats to our motorcycling freedom. However the spat with Moto Tingle is just plain stupid. I had never heard of Moto Tingle until Mr Fillingham mentioned him and I wonder if he realises he has just given his nemesis a load of free publicity? Unless you own or are thinking of buying a BSA Gold Star (not me) who cares? I think it's time he took a break and for now at least I'm saying "Bye bye Stu".
Great video guys. Love your content. I am no mechanic or tech guy, so just use my phone on my wee videos. Love having feedback back. Have been in other videos and made some good friends. Can’t be doing with squabbling etc. Yes, be are all different, with likes, dislikes and point of views. But there is not one channel I don’t enjoy. Mind you there is probably loads I don’t know about…..lol. Everyone should just get alone😊😊😊. Sean. Love the channel, keep up the good work. X😊X
Too be fair now I’ve bought a new bike I’ve stopped watching bike review videos. What I’m after now is the motorcycle life videos. Going places, bike maintenance and up grades. Bike accessories and clothing also good. Your videos are relaxed and casual which is just what I want. Keep up the good vids. Stay honest to yourselves 👍🏻
Egos abound that are pumped up by a few likes! I don't subscribe to any of the bloggers, their content is regularly recommended by YT so I just look through to find the individual videos that are of interest. They all do at least the odd video that is relevant to me and many videos that aren't relevant.
I hear you guys. But it’s only natural to be annoyed when bigger players and one in particular continually slags off others on a continual level. Including a particular channel who has put myself down. For me I mostly turn a blind eye, but not everyone’s built that way as me or yourselves. Cheers.
I am new to bikes (yet to buy one, just trying to learn stuff online) and this kind of poo throwing really gets confusing, because I have only been following (quite a few in the mean time) relevant channels for less than 2 months. It is a pity that people have the need to attack others because they disagree with their opinions or feel threatened by their views. But yes - there appear to generally be two groups of people doing videos. Those that do it for fun or for the community and those that have it as a job (or trying to get there). I of course hope that they chose that path because they enjoy it, but it does put additional strain on them as they want to keep the lights on and food on the table.
Sean most of the people mentioned I’ve watched once and never again, it amazes me how fragile some of the big boys are about what they do, you guys and Will and 4 others are all I watch re motorcycles, varied styles but interesting and most importantly don’t take yourselves to seriously, ignore it bud, do what you do, I’ll keep watching, 😂 …. Pete🇫🇷
Great video guys love the channel never miss a video. Sean did you borrow that hat from perky blinders series ? We probably all watch similar Channels and we don’t need people having a go at each other so boring to watch I started subscribing to motorcycle related channels as getting back into motorcycle travel had some great holidays on what we have learned.its a great format and if I don’t know how fix something I look it up on utube.
Your right, I have had a rubbish go at vlogging, made a complete rubbish job, but learning slowly, at three score nd ten just having ago and that’s what I like, when this started I left their channels, I like who I like, you seemed down to earth, not too sure of running naked around a forest now a days ( probably have a thrombo), but been seen and done loads, so nowt for me to prove, keep up the loving bit, NW biker dude ver the hill but refuses to grow up
Thats a nice outlook you have, nowt to prove. To be very honest with you, I've already had a career and don't need TH-cam to feel like I've 'made it'. No pressure on us, which is great.
I agree with you both but I fear that, by even making this video, you have thrown yourself into the 'wiffle waffle' and I would make this the last time you mention anything about it. Keep making your brilliant videos and being who you naturally are. Big fan.
Thank you Dave, I think that will be the last time we mention it. I appreciate the words of wisdom there, even we are sometimes drawn into comment of the drama and it's better to stay well clear...
I did comment on mototingles vid after my experience with stu but then realized i was being dragged into the negativity, much more exciting watching Shaun get chased by wild dogs, imagine if the bsa had lived up to its reputation for breakingdown at that moment, but glad you were ok
Suzi says it like it is…. we viewers don’t enjoy a squabble, so children just act your age, and if you can’t say anything nice then keep your gob shut. I also quite liked the bit about revving and being naked etc., but that should probably stay behind your (closed) curtains!
I don't think any good can come from going to another channel and attacking it, even if you do have a valid gripe with an issue you can raise a counterpoint yourself without dragging anyone else in. It's easy to think of someone on here as a two-dimensional cardboard cutout a few centimetres tall on the screen but I would hope most of us do not! The bike scene is probably one of the most polite online ones I've experienced at least 🫶 I like your hat, I should get a hat 👍
You're both right of course, but when these things kick off it's difficult not to get the popcorn out and enjoy the show 😂. It's not like it’s a matter of life or death or even remotely important in the scheme of things is it. People need to stop taking themselves and the social media echo chamber so seriously.
Suzie I said exactly all youve said to SF in his comments about playground spats between grown men......it all needs stopping now. Just not worth the stress
Hmmmm….. well some of the biggest are not the best…’small willy trouble’ is so unattractive! - [Not 2 wheel Willie obviously!]. Thanks for your sensible comments!
It's quite sad that we have these people that turn on each other, I've also noticed that their loyal subs get drawn into the comments war thus pouring fuel on the flames which just spreads the fight further. there are many youtube creators who now believe that they have become experts based on their subscription success to me its the same as being the most popular girl in school or winning in monopoly, basically little value at the end of the day. like you've both said enjoy what you do and create, if it brings in a little dosh all's good and well .... but like all schoolyard battles everyone will rush over to watch youtube is no different 😎😎😎
Fillingham is really unpleasant, in fact there are alot of pillocks in the moto vloging world. I have blocked and unsubcribed to many of them in recent times. You guys are great andmvery enjoyable.
I unsubbed from Fillingham's channel a few years ago when he began posting politically motivated rants. I was there for the bikes, not for the lectures...
Sadly social media companies feed on controversy which boosts clicks/profits. I followed Fillingham for a while but got fed up with his negative political commentary so rather than get sucked into negativity I just unfollowed. Keep up with your mix of travelogues/reviews/commentary. We need to find more to unite us than divide us otherwise the tech bros win and we ultimately lose.
To my surprise, this year I've become an accidental teeny youtuber (I'm not actually teeny, but have less than 280 subscribers, however that's around 279 more than I expected). I haven't tried to be a youtuber, and I've never asked anyone to subscribe or like either (and I don't mind if they don't), I don't even talk (not one for talking) ...but it's really nice that people do (like or subscribe that is, not the talking bit ...although there's a few folk that could do a bit less of that 😁) PS that's not meant as a plug. However as I'm doing it for my own entertainment and not interested in making any money from it, none of it matters, although it's very nice that a few people are getting some entertainment value from it. As a viewer, there's quite a few motorcycle channels I subscribe to (one's testing bikes I like, routes I like, 'nice people' with reviews or tips, people having interesting adventures etc) but there are a few channels that are a bit more ranty and/or extremely opinionated which I don't.
Thanks for the comment Leigh. I actually feel very awkward asking people to subscribe and like so I generally don't do it, if they want to they will sort of thing! 👍😊
Some Tubers massively overestimate their influence on a bike's potential, for better or worse. It's debatable whether enjoyment has much to do with stats on paper, I've owned a number of bikes that were popularly derided, and had the time of my life on them. People need to remember TH-cam is a form of entertainment primarily, and any tips are a bonus. When Mid-life Crisis Motorcyclist got first(?) UK dibs on a 650 Classic, I thought that will put the cat among the pigeons, but haven't seen any salvos fired publicly. I wonder if retro bikes attract, ahem, mature riders with strong opinions?
Oh there will definitely be some jostling for position over who gets the new RE bikes first, Mid-Life wouldn't be the biggest so I guess that will upset a few folks 😄😂
Great video. As you said, some videos are for fun, some… it’s a business model. Just keep yours light and ignore the head count. Why is the bike industry failing?… obviously a personal view: Too complicated a structure to pass your test. Ridiculous insurance premiums for younger riders. Peer pressure for having the right bike. No TV programmes on bike maintenance. You can buy a car for nothing down and pay monthly. You can insure a car cheaper in some cases. Bikes no longer essential like it was back in the day.
Good points, well made👍 There are some rather large ego's out there in motovlogging land. Too many of the bigger (in terms of subscribers) you tubers can't deal with criticism, even though they are extremely vocal with their own opinions. As for Darcy Bustle and his dad getting their tutu's in a twist over dealers bike allocations, that really is a bit much. Come on ladies kiss and make up😘
I've seen both videos. Both should just shut up. We should all be supporting each other. We are a small fringe industry. Take Joe Rogan's lead and build up your peers rather than trying to tear down others who you perceive as competition.
I'm going to make a video about you two just going for a walk and wasting my time waiting to see at least one motorcycle. Maybe it'll generate a lot of comments and get me some more subscribers... 😂😂😂😉😉 Of course I'm only kidding! I'm tiny (well, my YT channel is I mean) in comparison to any of the channels you've been mentioning and I am doing it purely for the fun of it. To have a hobby outside of work and to learn all the creative and editing skills to keep my brain active learning new things. And I choose to do it with motorcycles because I love them too! If I ever make it to the point where I can make a few quid out of it then that'd be amazing, but it really would just be a nice bonus. I'm happy if I get a couple of hundred views and a few likes and comments on any video I upload. I'm a relatively new sub to your channel, but always look forward to your content. All the best 🙂👍🍻
That's a lovely message thank you. You can tell if people are doing it for the fun of it, it really shows on camera. Oh I agree completely, I've learnt so much about filming and editing since I started this. It's crazy you learn a little bit each time but it's an enjoyable journey. Like you I'm most happy with the comments, it just makes it very social and engaging! Wishing you success from a fellow TH-camr👍
👍 I'm not interested in this childish behaviour, when I view it I then just unsubscribe from those who post it. There's plenty of good informative positive MC content on TH-cam.
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Lots of wiffle waffle going on 😂for sure.
I've had folk try to shoot me down many times in the early days.
It just makes me realise who my real TH-cam friends are and I appreciate them even more and they will always have my back as I will have theirs.
Love what you are both doing, keep up the brilliant videos, good content🎉
A lot of it is handbags at dawn, at least that’s how it all seems to me. For some strange reason, certain bigger channels feel threatened about the tiddlers. I’d rather just do my own thing, and not get drawn in. I originally started, so that my wife (who can no longer ride pillion), could see where we had been, and consider it a bonus that other people enjoy them too. I love the chat from people all around the world. Keep it simple 🤗
You’ve got it spot on guys….for myself I have disengaged from the “heat of battle” since my comment on Moto Tingles channel…..there are lessons for all of us here….time to move on….life is simply too short (especially for us fossils 😊). Thanks again for a refreshing, sobering and much needed call for calm which I for one will be heeding in full….respect 🙏
best way Dave and someone needs to say something its just motorbikes not life or death fun, fun, thats what its supposed to be not money money money!!
@ absolutely agreed pal 👍
So glad to hear you say Dave. From an avid watcher it's distressing to hear or read the acrimony. Not for what I watch you guys and gals to experience! Cheers!
@@thebingleywheeler I love your channel and this one and SFs but refuse to watch any video when it becomes negative about other people - slag the bikes off by all means but ....
I think TH-cam is a marvellous thing and have from day one tried to encourage people to give it a go, if only for an excuse to get out on your bike. I constantly try to promote others and think of it as big family that I want to see thrive 😊 The negative comments I get are thankfully few put some seem to try really hard to offend but fail 99.9% of the time. 😊 The indirect snipes from some of the bigger channels are the most annoying because there simply isn’t any need for it. 😊 Thanks for doing this video to hi-light the ridiculousness of the petty squabbling 😊 Love you both 😊❤
Good comment TAYM, I think your channel accurately demonstrates your big family idea.
@ thanks William 😁
Your comments on the Friday Mutter drew me to this video which has inspired me to do something tongue in cheek 😂
Thank you Taym for such a great comment. You've summed up our view on why we do this perfectly. I wish you all the best on the platform and if course offline too! Have good weekend 😀, Sean
@ thanks Sean 😁 you too 😁
I will be honest as a motorcyclist of 45 years and the founder of a motorcycling group with 2300 members for the last 11 years and probably the worlds smallest TH-cam podcast on motorcycling. I have been really disappointed by this reaction we have seen about the BSA, it takes me back to school where the competitive guys fall out with each other because they feel threatened and their mates get behind them and start throwing insults at each other and at their mates and I’ve got to be honest it’s been a bit of a shock and a reminder that the most innocuous comment can be taken the wrong way, sometimes on purpose and twisted to create a problem when actually it could be completely avoided. Thanks Sean and Susie for bringing it up though I think many of us have been watching this from a distance and shaking our heads a bit.
I get loads of negative stuff 😆 - i just walk away and give a thumbs up and heart ❤
I noticed BP! Take no notice your doing really well!
best way Richard
@@MindfulMotorcyclist it was hard at first with these negative comments coming through, but you do get used to it and you hardened up to the reality. Just ignore them. Fortunately, the percentile is very low. Keep the great videos coming.
Speaking to one dealer I was told they loan out bikes to TH-camrs they like rather than the size of the channel- it’s about relationships.
Yes, I can believe that. I got an opportunity to ride bikes at Midwest Moto when I had 1,500 subscribed. Always very grateful they took a chance on my videos back then 🙏
For the love of motorcycles, that is all that matters. TH-cam is not the playground and I don't care who gang is bigger than anyone else's. It should just be about sharing your love of bikes.
Correct 👍
Very well put folks, hopefully we catch you out there someday.
Keep the positive outlook for sure!
2-wheeled Willie is a legend.
I gave up on Fillingham years ago when he went from vlogging to recording a bit of B-roll and talking over it at home, falling ever more down the conspiracy rabbit hole to draw in gullible viewers. And I can't say I've ever heard of Mr Tingle.
I like you two for your fun, and I'll be honest, your amateurism, you're not so ridiculously slick and I don't ever feel you're doing it just for the numbers.
Freddie, well Freddie is Freddie, wonderfully naive at times, charming as always, I'm occasionally mystified as to why I'm watching someone's holiday, but it's always enjoyable.
So keep it up, please. Stay out of trouble and let the kiddies fight over the sweets in the playground.
Nailed it 😂
I keep thinking ‘wouldn’t it be great if we could just reset TH-cam and go back to the days where we all filmed for our own enjoyment, and uploaded it simply because others might be interested or it might provide help to them’. That’s how I view my own channel as someone who is just getting started. It’s a hobby, I film what I want and what I think might be of use or interest, and that’s it. The problems start when the monetisation starts, and then starts to snowball as more views=more subs=more advertising money=need for more, more, more. And then it becomes a scramble for who can get the bike first, put up the first video, get a higher share of views= the cycle as stated above. But that being said, I do not condone anyone producing videos that set out to deceive the viewer, or not be wholly truthful in what is being portrayed, and if that’s how someone wants to run their channel, then I think it’s right as a community, that it’s challenged and called out. What if, as a result of Mr Tingle’s video, BSA bikes are branded problematic, their reputation is shot, and the company folds or withdraws from the UK market. We’ve just lost (again) a historic brand, brought back from the dead, that have produced a decent bike for not a lot of money? And that video is based upon information that may or may not be wholly truthful, just because it’s current, and could get a lot of views, etc, etc. That would be tragic.
I covered that exact topic in my next Spain installment, BSA have to keep putting out fires left right and centre due to this, it's really unpleasant sadly...
Very well made points. It’s pathetic really, grown men (in the vast majority) behaving like playground bullies.
It’s been my experience that bullies are trying to mask their own insecurity and inadequacy.
Keep up the good work !
totally agree with what you both have said , did`nt realise fillingham was such a merchant banker, wish there were more channels like you and 2 wheeled willie
Agreed i used to subscribe but when he intimated my GoldStar was most likely rusty and left outside i was incensed at his stupidity and unsubscribed immediately.
It’s simple I watch the channels I like and stop watching the ones I don’t like 😊
Agreed. Keep it simple.
Spot on!
Me too.
Great video guys and well said!! It is sad that bigger You Tubers think its okay to spread negativity towards other You Tube channels, ive stopped watching and unsubscribed from a couple because of exactly that...Suze's is exactly right... lets all have a naked cuddle ..love you guys 😘
Love you too tall man! All we need to concern ourselves with is Classic vs Bear the new showdown...
I totally agree willie, especially on the naked cuddle 😂😂
@@TAYM 😈
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 😂😂😂
Is this naked cuddle to happen in the slap and tickle garden? Just asking lol.
Anyone can set up their own channel. Hence there are some lovely genuine folk out there. There are also some folk out to blag whatever they can. Quite a few prima donnas and a fair few people who if you actually knew them, you would likely actively avoid. What I saw this morning from Uncle Fillingham was one of the most tedious things I've ever watched on TH-cam. There will always be disagreements between people who have had different experiences, but it really shouldn't result in handbags at dawn. I will always recall Fillingham a couple of years ago telling everyone not to go near BSA, now hes telling us all they are fantastic. Make of that what you will. But you're quite right; a bit of tolerance is what's called for.
Thank you Trev 👍
I let my views known in no uncertain terms on Reddit. But on you-tube I don’t come out too strong.
My late mom used to say if you ve got nothing nice to say dont say anything..... although i do struggle...🤣
i started watching Shaun when we ran the same R E Meteor in the bronze colour 2021 . have been subscribed since then . also i enjoy your work together , Suzie is a really upbeat person which is refreshing . you would make an excellent presenter . i am 75 , wife 73 and had bikes all our lives . dont change you are nice as you both are .
I like Sean and Mrs Sean. I particularly like Mrs Sean because she's damned nice eye candy...
Kindness for the win always! Suzie says it best!
She really does! Thank you...
I've been seeing this a lot. And I've noticed how some have changed and not for the best! You guys are down to earth never change guys. 😎
I will endeavour to keep our feet on the ground!
I think you both have a wonderfully refreshing attitude. We need more kindness in the world. Keep up the great work 👍
Thank you CH, Suzie very much hit the nail on the head.
I'm not going name motovloggers and channels that have lost their way, but I totally agree with you......
I've lost count of the number of bike vblog/review channels that I've subscribed to, got bored, and unsubscribed! I occasionally watch Freddie, just for the entertainment value. One guy that I do watch a lot is Nathan the Postman. His reviews are normally pretty direct, warts and all! Some complain that all he's doing is promoting his business, but why not! Being the first to review a new bike doesn't mean much to me if, due to demand on the bike, it's ridden around the block, and a verdict is given! When I get a new bike, it generally takes me a few weeks riding to really determine what I like and don't like about it. And some reviewers are so partisan that you know which bikes they'll rave about and which they'll hate, and some just love every bike that they swing a leg over!
Anyway, keep eating the popcorn and keep on doing what you're doing! 👍
Ey up you two, I’ve watched both of these people and watch loads and don’t take sides myself tho I do comment but am impartial even either way and don’t slag anyone off on any channel or argue,they both or all need to calm it down really it’s only motorcycles if you look at other channels motorcycles are nothing in comparison but as you say they’re supposed to be enjoyable that’s the whole point isn’t it 😊😊😊a hobby great ramble you two
All the best Phil
Thank you Phil! Appreciate the comment and you stopping by!
But aren't you fueling the fire by doing this video. Least said, soonest mended I thought.
A valid question, but at the same time I couldn't not say anything and we tried to keep the message positive, we of course did not take sides or insult anyone directly.
Love you guys, your channel is one of my favourites, subscribed since you had the Meteor Sean, and bought one, now quite fancy adding a Bsa650 to keep the Meteor company. You are both very level headed and work great as a double act and that’s why I watch your videos.I watch the channels I enjoy and love your reviews and your chat, That’s what it should be about the right to choose, if someone doesn’t give me an interesting video I switch off. There are plenty of good channels on here to choose from Big and Small. You guys keep doing what you’re doing, it’s what makes your channel great.👍
I see this all the time!
My channel was a mixed one before just bikes, I used to do RC stuff as well.
You would not believe what went on on the RC side, got quite serious at one point (nothing to do with me I hasten to add)
Recently I have had offers from manufactures to review stuff, and I must admit I was anxious taking these offers as I felt a bit of a fraud being only a wee sub 3k channel!
However then I thought, you know what I have been at this 5 years, maybe I am being recognised so why not!
Luckily I have not had any back lash and some pretty positive response so all good, I love making videos and I love watching videos that's what its all about surely?
Anyway great video guys, lets all be positive
Well said.. I'm biker on the opposite age range to you, and live in Worcestershire...
I for one think we need to attract younger riders by the benefits the biking community offers.
I personally love your videos and the way you present them. Maybe some utubers take themselves way too seriously.
Keep up the great work.
Thank you for the support 👍🙏
I enjoy your rambles (in both senses of the word!) Carry on.
The video in question, shows a narcissistic bullys character assassination attempt, pouring petrol on the flames. What a hypocrite.
Totally agree with both of you, well done. Please keep doing what you do.
Thanks William, really appreciate that 🙏. Hope you're having a good week and have a good weekend!
Love you guys' positivity!!
Well said! 👌 You and 2 Wheeled Willie are better than all the "Big boy" Channels ...Stuart who?!?!
Thank you Sean (nice name by the way 😂)! Well we could hardly disagree with the above haha
I totally agree with your sentiments. Unfortunately some well known motovloggers have let themselves down being drawn into politics/disputes online.
Thank you Rupert. 👍
I’ve just found out it’s international Stress Awareness Day #justsayin
😂😂
Well said guys. We’ve just got to remember - We’re all on the same side! There’s enough pressure on motorcycling from outsiders these days without fighting amongst ourselves. Everyone is allowed their own opinions and as long as they are constructive and informative that’s great. There is absolutely no need for rudeness or threatening behaviour, that’s just playing into the hands of the people who want to see an end of motorcycling. Come on guys keep it light and remember why we ride 👍
Thanks Julian appreciate the comment...
Hi Sean/Suzie- Nice job; you guys are always better together. You looked great Suzie. Your spirits were really up. Sean- I really liked that green sweater & hat. Suzie- you really looked pretty in pink. That view off of that hill that you were walking was breathtaking. Have a beautiful day! Cheers! Suzie; keep getting out in nature because that will help to heal you. Later! Illinois, USA
Great video Sean and suzie,some of the vloggers are missing the point of enjoyment especially the Mr big, you just keep doing what you're doing it's great to watch, i totally agree with you you especially about 2 wheel Willie, so easy to watch, just normal people having fun on motorcycles and sharing the experience, keep up the great work, 🙂👍🇬🇧🏍❤️
I have 60 subscribers and I have never put a single video out. I'm quite happy with my numbers.....🤣🤣🤣
Same. I have 13 😂😂
Seen a few channels that have grown and started to take themselves way too seriously and I’ve had to unsubscribe from a few through basic annoyance. Nice vid by you two! 👍
You are both wise beyond your years. You are both a breath of fresh air to watch.
Thank you Sweeny! Much appreciated 👍
See a button, pick it up and all day long you’ll have good luck 😁 😂😂😂 or something like that 😊
That's hilarious TAYM! I hope we continue to have good luck. Hope you're well 😃
You are right guys. Of course, everything gets complicated when money/business gets in the middle. One thing they should all remember is, it's not about them! It just isn't! It's about all of us who like bikes! Simple as that really! No one is more or less "entitled" to enjoy motorcycling! We all face the same difficulties in life! From the UK to Thailand, from the US to South Africa, we all face the same BS in life & particularly regarding motorcycles! There are developments coming our way that will make the use of motorcycles even harder (in some areas they have already began) so I don't think pettiness is the best way to try & prepare for them.
Very much a case of united we stand, divided we fall!
I love obsession community , I've been obsessed with VW, keeping Fit and now I want get into bike's as well. So watch a lot of TH-cam on the biking and what bike to get. Thing is whare there are communities, there is money to be made on TH-cam, shows ,merchandise , and people always fall out over money 🤔.
Thank you for fun ,giggles and good advice 😊
There's a psychological term for it: narcissism of small differences. "..the idea that the more a relationship or community shares commonalities, the more likely the people in it are to engage in interpersonal feuds and mutual ridicule because of hypersensitivity to minor differences perceived in each other".
I have unsubscribed from the channels that abuse / harass / bully other channels. Not my standard of behaviour.
Yep, me too plus I've blocked them.
Well said Paul.
Thanks for an excellent, sane video which reminded me why I started watching motorcycle videos on YT in the first place - fun! I have followed Stuart Fillingham for a number of years and I admit I have learned a lot of useful practical motorcycle stuff from him for which I'm very grateful. However I've felt for a while that he has been drifting further and further away from the fun, relaxing side of things. He's entitled to his political views (which I don't necessarily share) and he's right to keep banging the drum about actual or possible threats to our motorcycling freedom. However the spat with Moto Tingle is just plain stupid. I had never heard of Moto Tingle until Mr Fillingham mentioned him and I wonder if he realises he has just given his nemesis a load of free publicity? Unless you own or are thinking of buying a BSA Gold Star (not me) who cares? I think it's time he took a break and for now at least I'm saying "Bye bye Stu".
Great video guys. Love your content.
I am no mechanic or tech guy, so just use my phone on my wee videos.
Love having feedback back. Have been in other videos and made some good friends.
Can’t be doing with squabbling etc.
Yes, be are all different, with likes, dislikes and point of views.
But there is not one channel I don’t enjoy. Mind you there is probably loads I don’t know about…..lol.
Everyone should just get alone😊😊😊.
Sean. Love the channel, keep up the good work. X😊X
Too be fair now I’ve bought a new bike I’ve stopped watching bike review videos. What I’m after now is the motorcycle life videos. Going places, bike maintenance and up grades. Bike accessories and clothing also good. Your videos are relaxed and casual which is just what I want. Keep up the good vids. Stay honest to yourselves 👍🏻
That's very kind thank you Andy, we will try and keep it real on this channel 😊👍
Egos abound that are pumped up by a few likes! I don't subscribe to any of the bloggers, their content is regularly recommended by YT so I just look through to find the individual videos that are of interest. They all do at least the odd video that is relevant to me and many videos that aren't relevant.
I hear you guys. But it’s only natural to be annoyed when bigger players and one in particular continually slags off others on a continual level. Including a particular channel who has put myself down. For me I mostly turn a blind eye, but not everyone’s built that way as me or yourselves.
Cheers.
I am new to bikes (yet to buy one, just trying to learn stuff online) and this kind of poo throwing really gets confusing, because I have only been following (quite a few in the mean time) relevant channels for less than 2 months. It is a pity that people have the need to attack others because they disagree with their opinions or feel threatened by their views. But yes - there appear to generally be two groups of people doing videos. Those that do it for fun or for the community and those that have it as a job (or trying to get there). I of course hope that they chose that path because they enjoy it, but it does put additional strain on them as they want to keep the lights on and food on the table.
100%, if you are chasing revenue the MO for videos and the feel for videos is very different.
Interesting ! . Very well said guys .😊👌👍
Sean most of the people mentioned I’ve watched once and never again, it amazes me how fragile some of the big boys are about what they do, you guys and Will and 4 others are all I watch re motorcycles, varied styles but interesting and most importantly don’t take yourselves to seriously, ignore it bud, do what you do, I’ll keep watching, 😂 …. Pete🇫🇷
I think it really helps myself and Willie and the others not on the reviews stay above this wiffle waffle!
Most of watch these videos for info and reviews not to listen to squabbling I agree with you have a great day and enjoy what you do life's to short
Thanks Lloyd
Ive missed the drama, thanks for the heads up!
Great video guys love the channel never miss a video. Sean did you borrow that hat from perky blinders series ? We probably all watch similar Channels and we don’t need people having a go at each other so boring to watch I started subscribing to motorcycle related channels as getting back into motorcycle travel had some great holidays on what we have learned.its a great format and if I don’t know how fix something I look it up on utube.
Your right, I have had a rubbish go at vlogging, made a complete rubbish job, but learning slowly, at three score nd ten just having ago and that’s what I like, when this started I left their channels, I like who I like, you seemed down to earth, not too sure of running naked around a forest now a days ( probably have a thrombo), but been seen and done loads, so nowt for me to prove, keep up the loving bit, NW biker dude ver the hill but refuses to grow up
Thats a nice outlook you have, nowt to prove. To be very honest with you, I've already had a career and don't need TH-cam to feel like I've 'made it'. No pressure on us, which is great.
Great video , you are keeping it real , and perfectly said , also is that the Longmynd you are walking across .
Meanwhile in other news that’s definitely Malvern this time ! Love u guys keep on going 😊
Love the hat are you sure your not a lancastrian at heart, my grandad had one just like it.
I agree with you both but I fear that, by even making this video, you have thrown yourself into the 'wiffle waffle' and I would make this the last time you mention anything about it.
Keep making your brilliant videos and being who you naturally are. Big fan.
Thank you Dave, I think that will be the last time we mention it. I appreciate the words of wisdom there, even we are sometimes drawn into comment of the drama and it's better to stay well clear...
I did comment on mototingles vid after my experience with stu but then realized i was being dragged into the negativity, much more exciting watching Shaun get chased by wild dogs, imagine if the bsa had lived up to its reputation for breakingdown at that moment, but glad you were ok
Haha Steven! 🐶🐶🐶
Suzi says it like it is…. we viewers don’t enjoy a squabble, so children just act your age, and if you can’t say anything nice then keep your gob shut.
I also quite liked the bit about revving and being naked etc., but that should probably stay behind your (closed) curtains!
I don't think any good can come from going to another channel and attacking it, even if you do have a valid gripe with an issue you can raise a counterpoint yourself without dragging anyone else in. It's easy to think of someone on here as a two-dimensional cardboard cutout a few centimetres tall on the screen but I would hope most of us do not! The bike scene is probably one of the most polite online ones I've experienced at least 🫶 I like your hat, I should get a hat 👍
Nice, sensible video. Subscribed.
You're both right of course, but when these things kick off it's difficult not to get the popcorn out and enjoy the show 😂. It's not like it’s a matter of life or death or even remotely important in the scheme of things is it. People need to stop taking themselves and the social media echo chamber so seriously.
Keep doing what you do, plough your own furrow and let the others get on with it.
Suzie I said exactly all youve said to SF in his comments about playground spats between grown men......it all needs stopping now. Just not worth the stress
Thank you Sue 😊
Truly kinder garden stuff compared to the luxury watch world TH-cam/vlogging space.
being mad does help .
Well said.
It's only light entertainment after all 👍🍷
I get that you dont want to get involved in the scrap, but by doing this video your continuing to give the scrappers milage. Go and ride a bike 😂
Well said, certainly in a world of conflict right now. Last thing we want is the great motorcycle wars of 2024
Thank you 😊 🙏
Great video, and lovely countryside 👍
That is the Malvern Hills, much nicer on a sunny day. Well the view at least is better...
Hmmmm….. well some of the biggest are not the best…’small willy trouble’ is so unattractive! - [Not 2 wheel Willie obviously!]. Thanks for your sensible comments!
It's quite sad that we have these people that turn on each other, I've also noticed that their loyal subs get drawn into the comments war thus pouring fuel on the flames which just spreads the fight further. there are many youtube creators who now believe that they have become experts based on their subscription success to me its the same as being the most popular girl in school or winning in monopoly, basically little value at the end of the day. like you've both said enjoy what you do and create, if it brings in a little dosh all's good and well .... but like all schoolyard battles everyone will rush over to watch youtube is no different 😎😎😎
Yes it's like school, I get it hurts to have a character brought into question but sometimes better just to walk away...
Fillingham is really unpleasant, in fact there are alot of pillocks in the moto vloging world. I have blocked and unsubcribed to many of them in recent times. You guys are great andmvery enjoyable.
Thank you DT! Appreciate that...
I can imagine him to be quite an arrogant know it all
I unsubbed from Fillingham's channel a few years ago when he began posting politically motivated rants. I was there for the bikes, not for the lectures...
@@sgtgrashHave you heard his rebuttal.
@@johnmartin7158 Nope.
Sadly social media companies feed on controversy which boosts clicks/profits. I followed Fillingham for a while but got fed up with his negative political commentary so rather than get sucked into negativity I just unfollowed. Keep up with your mix of travelogues/reviews/commentary. We need to find more to unite us than divide us otherwise the tech bros win and we ultimately lose.
Spot on. ❤
Thanks Charlie 😄👍
Who cares . Let's ride our bikes . Suzie talks sense 😊
She does indeed, thanks for the comment 👍
Every subculture has its dramas. Just like in offline drama, it's usually best not to get involved
Good point!
To my surprise, this year I've become an accidental teeny youtuber (I'm not actually teeny, but have less than 280 subscribers, however that's around 279 more than I expected). I haven't tried to be a youtuber, and I've never asked anyone to subscribe or like either (and I don't mind if they don't), I don't even talk (not one for talking) ...but it's really nice that people do (like or subscribe that is, not the talking bit ...although there's a few folk that could do a bit less of that 😁) PS that's not meant as a plug.
However as I'm doing it for my own entertainment and not interested in making any money from it, none of it matters, although it's very nice that a few people are getting some entertainment value from it.
As a viewer, there's quite a few motorcycle channels I subscribe to (one's testing bikes I like, routes I like, 'nice people' with reviews or tips, people having interesting adventures etc) but there are a few channels that are a bit more ranty and/or extremely opinionated which I don't.
Thanks for the comment Leigh. I actually feel very awkward asking people to subscribe and like so I generally don't do it, if they want to they will sort of thing! 👍😊
Some Tubers massively overestimate their influence on a bike's potential, for better or worse. It's debatable whether enjoyment has much to do with stats on paper, I've owned a number of bikes that were popularly derided, and had the time of my life on them. People need to remember TH-cam is a form of entertainment primarily, and any tips are a bonus. When Mid-life Crisis Motorcyclist got first(?) UK dibs on a 650 Classic, I thought that will put the cat among the pigeons, but haven't seen any salvos fired publicly. I wonder if retro bikes attract, ahem, mature riders with strong opinions?
Oh there will definitely be some jostling for position over who gets the new RE bikes first, Mid-Life wouldn't be the biggest so I guess that will upset a few folks 😄😂
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Extra popcorn ordered 👍
Great video. As you said, some videos are for fun, some… it’s a business model. Just keep yours light and ignore the head count. Why is the bike industry failing?… obviously a personal view: Too complicated a structure to pass your test. Ridiculous insurance premiums for younger riders. Peer pressure for having the right bike. No TV programmes on bike maintenance. You can buy a car for nothing down and pay monthly. You can insure a car cheaper in some cases. Bikes no longer essential like it was back in the day.
Thank you John, we will endeavour to keep ours light and avoid drama at all costs...
Well said Peaky Blinders and Barbie hurry up and put part 3 of your trip on hope you like the new Enfield 650 classic
defo playground drama, easily solved with a face to face if needs be 🙂
TH-cam is primarily entertainment to me. As soon as it ceases to be that I will move on.
I have seen some of these petty squabbles. I'll unsubscribe to any channel that gets involved. It's pathetic!
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Malvern hills? Your local to me then 👍
We do like popcorn though
Good points, well made👍
There are some rather large ego's out there in motovlogging land. Too many of the bigger (in terms of subscribers) you tubers can't deal with criticism, even though they are extremely vocal with their own opinions. As for Darcy Bustle and his dad getting their tutu's in a twist over dealers bike allocations, that really is a bit much.
Come on ladies kiss and make up😘
Sending a hug 🫂 😊
It seems the more followers you have , the more of a Pin Cushion you become , OUCH !!
Yes your head is above the parapet if you've got a large number of subs...
I've seen both videos. Both should just shut up. We should all be supporting each other. We are a small fringe industry. Take Joe Rogan's lead and build up your peers rather than trying to tear down others who you perceive as competition.
the bigger you [ think ] you are - the harder they fall ,, just be honest ;;
Probably true...
I'm going to make a video about you two just going for a walk and wasting my time waiting to see at least one motorcycle. Maybe it'll generate a lot of comments and get me some more subscribers... 😂😂😂😉😉
Of course I'm only kidding! I'm tiny (well, my YT channel is I mean) in comparison to any of the channels you've been mentioning and I am doing it purely for the fun of it. To have a hobby outside of work and to learn all the creative and editing skills to keep my brain active learning new things. And I choose to do it with motorcycles because I love them too! If I ever make it to the point where I can make a few quid out of it then that'd be amazing, but it really would just be a nice bonus.
I'm happy if I get a couple of hundred views and a few likes and comments on any video I upload.
I'm a relatively new sub to your channel, but always look forward to your content. All the best 🙂👍🍻
That's a lovely message thank you.
You can tell if people are doing it for the fun of it, it really shows on camera.
Oh I agree completely, I've learnt so much about filming and editing since I started this. It's crazy you learn a little bit each time but it's an enjoyable journey. Like you I'm most happy with the comments, it just makes it very social and engaging!
Wishing you success from a fellow TH-camr👍
Waffle waffle😂 well said you two, The channels that hate will just lose subscribers.
Well it's actually wiffle waffle, copyright of Exeter Rider but we think it's a great phrase 😄😄
Darn spellcheck!😂
👍 I'm not interested in this childish behaviour, when I view it I then just unsubscribe from those who post it. There's plenty of good informative positive MC content on TH-cam.
Fair play! Thanks for the comment 👍
like ya look wheres ya ferrets and terriers shaun,,,haha.
Hahaha very true...