Devin AI Software Engineer | End of Software Jobs?
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- I am a software entrepreneur having 40+ software engineers working in my company. I am also involved in AI projects development. Based on my background in the field of AI and software engineering, I did some research to find out the impact of Devin AI on software engineering jobs. In this video, I will discuss the findings of this research.
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00:00 Introduction
00:30 What is Devin AI Software Engineer?
02:28 System 1 vs System 2 Thinking
04:09 Will it Replace Software Jobs?
07:31 What Should You do Now?
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AI seems as powerful as nuclear energy (or even more powerful). One possibility is: just how we controlled nukes by creating a regulatory framework, as a humanity we need to create a framework to control this. When the USA used nuclear bomb on the Japan everybody thought there will be a nuclear arms race and an immediate third world war hence we all are doomed. It has been 80 years and there haven't been a single use of nuclear weapons so far. There are many brilliant minds and also governments already working on this initiative of AI regulation. If controlled some of the downsides of AI such as AI taking control over humanity etc can be minimized. Don't forget about the upsides such as tomorrow AI can cure a cancer or address some of the pressing issues facing the world such as climate change due to its superior intelligence. We may also embark on new ventures such as intergallatic travel (i.e. star wars movies type scenarios) and will have more things to do along with AI robot friends. Also one thing that separates humans from AI is consciousness. May be as a humanity we will focus more on evolving the consciousness and finding some hidden treasures from this unexplored field. Whatever it is, we need to be vigillent, informed and open about new possibilities and hopes.
I am SO HAPPY that You wrote this Statement on the Comment Section, I am So glad to read it too!! You are Absolutely Correct! Nuclear weapons have existed and So has AI for a very long time, but Regulations have existed for as long as The World has existed and it's to Not let things get out of Control.
You Are Absolute Correct!!! When I was A teenager; they made us believe that by the year 2025, the World was going to be So Advanced that we were going to be riding in flying Cars, cities were going to be Futuristic, and especially; that humans were going to be "Civilized" and behave with a Higher Consciousness, but None of that has happened.
Thanks for your insight and clear explanation. But I've a question. What is Davin doing that could not have been possible using Chat GPT-4? Yes they made it more organized and easy to visualize, but every task done can be implemented before Davin.
I think that "Devin-Feeders" that is people who are involved in the project concept and design will be in need to feed Devin all the data properly. Devin will do the coding, debugging which will again be re-tested and verified by the Devin-Feeders.
I like that term "Devin-Feeders" 😀
I don't know why we are moving so fast...what kind of problem does it solve (unemployment, stress, virtual life, etc)..We are already losing our humanity nowadays. Let's see how robots treat us in the future... or we are moving towards war for resources.
Exactly.
1. Any technology, be it internet, AI, robotics, Communication systems etc etc are all usually mad efor the Military purpose. And after a long period of time those technologies are introduced in civilians for civilian use. But 100% of those technologies are not launched for civilian use.. only less than 50% of the technology is deployed for civilians..
2. The present world leader USA is an extreme capitalist country. Meaning, those technologies were created by the funding of the capitalists, sold by the capitalists, then deployed in civilians by capitalists. All for one single word that is profit.
3. So due to the current bad economic situation in the USA and other western countries, companies (obviously owned by capitalists) layoff thousands of human workers to save some money, ultimately saving the company's balance sheet. Then as you can see, the AI advancements have taken rapid pace, with an objective of finding cheaper machine workers, which is what this Devin, ChatGPT, Stable Diffusion etc techs. Goal is to replace the human worker who asks for 100K USD with a machine worker who comes in a lot cheaper.
4. This "seeking cheap workers" by the capitalists has got something to do with even the illegal migrants crisis going on in USA. If you see news, you'll see that a company(Tyson Foods) are replacing their American workers with the illegal migrants.. Why? Because the illegal migrants wont ask for such hefty money that American worker would ask for. Later on in the future you will see US Military using these illegal migrants as recruits and they will make them do unethical things that maybe the lastest generation of woke American recruits won't accept to do.
Sorry for my bad English, also this is only my person opinion, if someone disagrees with me, then that's absolutely fine.
We are already losing humanity now a days is incorrect.
If you look at ancient ancestors that Indians are so proud of then you will realise that currently people are more humane.
Nothing 😅 Devin Ai😅😂😅
Profits. We create profit for company, if AI can produce more profit. Then it will replace us. Get ready to play a supervisory role of you are a sr. Developer and start looking for Machine learning and AI opportunity
Please make a video on how to grow crops efficiently.😊
😂
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obviously with the help of AI technology.
😂😂
Keeping food supply secure is a problem for the humans, by the humans and of the humans. A critical point you raise! After humanity is relieved of its material pursuits by AI, we will stare helplessly at a new reality in which workers won't need food or salary (maybe all they need is electricity for energy). By then, it may be too late for humans to stop the world's agriculture fields from being grabbed by an AI agenda with no place for food security in it.
Best Explanation Ever !! Thanks for the effort !
One of the finest explanation about AI I loved it. Thanks bro.
Very clear and effective explanation. Thanks.
Concise and meaningful explanation. Thanks! ❤
Valuable arguments!
Short ans: yes
yes
@@erved yes
Yes
A typical easy task for a software engineer involves cloning a repository, analyzing the requirements (reading the ticket), making code changes, often modifying the infrastructure which may require operating from the cloud portal and updating Infrastructure as Code After making these changes, testing is necessary before pushing the code. Good luck, Devin
This is just the first version.
True, but this POS will become smarter anyway
With the rate of growth for these AI models, I'm uncertain how good they might become after just 5 years
@@longmai9343aún así nunca alcanzará el 100%, el ser humano siempre estará ahí, por eso yo no me preocupo
Well, human behavior tends to lean towards panic when faced with new technology. Just consider the shift from typewriters to calculators, then scientific calculators, rendering typewriters obsolete. Eventually, people adapt and integrate the new technology into their lives. However, those who cling to outdated tools like typewriters find themselves left behind. Similarly, before the internet, knowledge was primarily sourced from books. With the digital age, we transitioned to blogs, videos, and online trainings. Technology evolves, and those who embrace it fare better in adapting to current circumstances. Those unwilling to learn and upgrade their skills risk falling behind. As a software engineer, relying on Google for code and solutions used to suffice, but now AI tools aid in diagnosing and troubleshooting issues to some extent. There's still progress to be made, but it's crucial for tech professionals to recognize the need to evolve with the system and meet the demands of the current situation.
You don't think it's kinda a different scenario 😊😊 it's like a newborn baby with a broad mind awaiting . And we human can't share our experiences with other but it does 😅 so yeah it's panicking situation
Good information. Thank you,
Definitely agree with the " Himans in technology" sponsored by government subsidies. Good thoughts
Thanks Sir God bless you
For efficient farming, tractor was intruduce but tractor didn't replace farmers that made farmers work easier.
Auto pilot was introduced in Aviation industry long decades ago but it didn't replace commercial pilots
Drone introduce in Air Force which assist to gather critical information and also use to Air Strike against enemies but drone does not replace trained Air Force pilots.
I agree to your view point except for the robot part. We humans need to talk to people to get the domain understanding and what is happening in the company. But actually the experts who know these are also relying on some digital metrics. So technically a system should have the capability to walk through the whole digital footprint better than a human. I get its not there yet, but its not as far as creating a robot to interview an expert.
We are working on an AI project for our Auto industry client based in the USA right now and 30 years of domain knowledge is in the brain of the two founders of this company. We understand this domain by having multiple rounds of meetings, documenting it in various excel, word files or sometimes not documenting it but using it directly in our code. Think if you have to ask AI to do this. There are technical constraints as well as compliance constraints hence I believe we are very far away from this future where AI can replace this work. It is a wish that one can create a digital footprint of a domain knowledge and many time this wish gets partially fulfilled but to write a working software you need to know entire picture.
Fantastic analysis.
Hi, thanks for ahsring your thoughts. Is releasing LLM and NLP related videos still in your plan?
Grt explaination i must say
Iam waiting for your view on this devin
Short answer is there are going to be less jobs as compare today.
For eg. If team today require 10 team of engineers then in future they will be deploying only 2 people for this.
So indirectly IT sector will become like manufacturing sector less job openings
UK here : Just found your channel - excellent stuff!
When devin can understand what í the womem think, devin can replace us.
Jhipter, low code or cms framework , we must learn how to use it custome what we want.
Excellent review with scientific evidence ..
I'm software engineer but I'm not afraid to Devin ai because I have some skills when chat gpt come all are same thing afraid only who are only know some basics of s/w
I'm always try to learn something new thiss help me to survive in thhis changing world
Future is nothing but more and faster consolidation of wealth as we have been seeing so far.
Does udemy have carpentry course? 🎓
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You ain't safe either. Ai is gonna do it😅
@@davidokorie9518 delivery jobs will be taken by drones. If you don't own land in your villages you are looking at starvation 😂
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To be serious, i can say AI softy and AI hardy will work together to make carpentry work too based by computerised design to laser cutand nailing... No, work will be left for huma... In the future... Seriously.
Informative👍
love the voice changes 🙂
as a newbie who is starting learning web Development and his aim to become mern stack developer in future .So what you suggest what will he do switch or not. If switch so what tech domain he will start learning .
True words!! don't panic !!!
I m AI engineer, and i agreed with AI solution, I am sure if we will use AI program in right way and at right place then Ai will help and support lot to human's and also to nature, environment ❤
Ranjit Singh? Are you the one playing the Indian Sikh guy in the old British comedy mind your language 🤣 😄?
Best explanations
Investors want more profit and so are the companies. Companies will use AI to reduce employee costs to benefit shareholders including promoters.
Please Sir can you make a full detailed course on a recommendation system.
Have something like a full stack MERN running on it
Can manager also replace by Robot manager task will give by company owner
Cannot agree more with your analysis. Banking and other financial institutions will think twice before implementing AI.
The era of SDE 1.0 roles has passed, with clients and tech companies now seeking Data Engineers who possess a deep understanding of the business domain and can develop accordingly. Not sure in which era you are living!
in max 5 years it will become 2.0, They are going to google and finding out solution and delivering projects. Why do you think it wont be able to sort out architecture and business handling.
Thanks man, I was also scared , and felt sick when I first watched Devin video, I experienced a panic attack!!! For the first time in my life .....could u make an elaborate video on what we need to study ?
He did not say that software engineers are safe. He is saying that entry level jobs are almost gone, and senior level jobs are there for some people 2-3 years but they will also start decreasing in number. Only person safe is an AI engineer himself or a business owner. There is no tool you can learn which an AI cannot do in few years. Better switch careers if u want safety.
@@rahulengland what about Cyber Security,?
@@rahulenglandif this happens then entire Indian economy will collapse reason IT guys buy luxury flats and cars this will directly affect entire ecosystem
Thanks!
Damn good video mate
If 1.0 replace 2.0 also will be replaced just matter of time
This is just a beginning. With current version this is all they could demo. 10yrs now may be they could justify AI software engineer term better than today 🙂
Si, pero un 10% More, porque se alcanzo ese 13% después de haber hecho muchas pruebas, nunca alcanzará el 100%, muy difícilmente el 50%, así que no nos preocupemos
Those chipmunk-like voice inserts.😂😂😂😂
Good content as always. Thanks.
Hi ! I’m working as a junior java developer in USA. Can you suggest few courses in AI to start with?
How about getting into agriculture?
Will it have any impact on automation testing field?
Now in organization will be Owner+ Robot workforce
How Data anlayst or data science or any data related field affect by Devin ?? please explain this also??
just dive command to gpt act as a data analyst and try ti put data for analysis see result in some second and devin can do it more betterway and fast
@@erved but when it comes to data cleaning and feature selection, only a data analyst knows the requirement and hence I feel human intervention is needed. The coding part might be automated by Ai but still human intervention is needed.
that human intervention will be completed by senior no need for bunch of people in company small size team will be capable to do lots of people task and very quickly@@Thekingslayer-ig5se
After decades of experience, and also using AI to write code, I suspect that maybe only 10%-20% of sw developers have SDE2.0 capability.
I asked Claude 3 Opus whether someone should enter CS today, if they wanted a long career.
However I wrote the prompt, in order to avoid bias, it said NO!
most of the service based companies are doing sde 1.0. so sharp decline will come in service companies surely, like in maintenance activities
I Heard already most of the companies have automated maintenance jobs which were exist 10 year back is this true
If AI replaces software engineer, digitalization of industries will move insanely quicker with AI. And few humans are needed in all those industries.
So yes, highly complexes tasks that are currently done by human software engineers could be done by AI, imagine all software projects are instantly completed by AI with comparable quality
It's the start of the end of all jobs. If it can be coded it can be automated, machines can be built, they really only lack the proper coding.
@@Kahsil AI could build other AIs, because the AI could code. That sounds amazing. Look forward to that. Humans will be made redundant in all those areas, maybe just sit there and enjoy what AI has done for us and go vacation for the whole life
Software jobs are gone bro … IT sector of India will be affected.
How should one be promoted directly to SDE 2.0 with nothing like do as directed and even entering into a process where they can learn about how to be in solving client requirements.
Good question, In the (not too far) future, I feel that people are expected to handle/supervise an AI model and report any issues that it does incorrectly-for this, you should of course know what a 'do as directed' software engineer knows to identify the wrong doings of the AI.
Fast forward (may be after some 4 years), people are expected to build an AI of 'do as directed' kind and many more roles would come into play like AI testing, AI engineer, etc.,
And even more fast forward? I feel the entire landscape of IT jobs get affected more or less but surely towards automation!
These are just my opinions. I am more than happy to correct myself if I am wrong anywhere.
@@devarapallivamsi7064You meant to say fast forward entire IT industry may be automated and there will be very less jobs
If the feedback time is reduced in future, we will need lesser system 2 people. Lot of time is spent in explaining the stories, documenting acceptance criteria. So if product owner is able to see the demo instantly using AI tool like devin, you can wrap up the product Dev quickly and need less people
I font know wheteher is it my problem or not but chat gpt3. 5 is faster that devin and also it is capable of answering the questions in an elaborate manner but devin answers in a systematic manner but devin is in it's embryonic stage.
Nice very useful. But I thought we already have driverless cars?
Service based companies mostly do system 1.0 works
Doctors are gonnna lose but nurses are gonna be there still because they have a physical contact with patients such as administring drugs and so on abd so forth
Robots will do the work of nurses easily and much better.
Bewkuf 😂
Not right now - but in 5 years for sure (at least 80%)😮!!
If creative replace by ai definitely programming will be in high risk
sir i wanna help in choosing course for masters in america . can u tell me is masters in science - computer science is a better option as
i wanna a good job in america after completing masters
sorry to say getting a greencard is close to impossible
Does it have any Limitation ?
Unreliable clerical ( systemic) task == gen ai
I am the SDE 2.0 mentioned, but my company treats me like a SDE 1.0 you have mentioned.....
Sir please reply my question according to your experience what you think which field is good data science and software development please suggest one of these field
If you ask me to pick between data science and software development then my answer is data science due to two reasons (1) demand for data science and AI is very high (2) relatively speaking data science, AI development is hard to replace by AI than software development
@@codebasics Thank You
Best career for the next 10000000 years: POLITICS
How about replacing old fart politicians with AI's? lol
So, let's start doing physical labor😮
Devwlopers : lets build something to make ourselves unemployed😢
No, this is just a bunch of motherfuckers sick for money, they wanted to get rich fucking everyone's life
I feel already we have already done lots of harm to the earth why is no one talking about what we can do about the environment to help the earth get back to normal there are lots of problems here, like simply can we generate water by ourselves? it is a natural resource I think AI can't replace what we need from nature how to maintain nature? how do we get net zero? we have to take a stand to not encourage this AI much but to focus on the problems which are very natural and irreplaceable
How about starting tapri like dolly chaiwala?
It's a one more step in AI
Currently I am leaning Web development. Is this worth should I continue or switch??
seriously think about it know the facts , here is always learnings and challenges, one technology come current gone, but ai is some what stable to stay and impact the IT world surely, job will surely less, more competition
I would not suggest a person to learn web development today. As someone suggested it, some of it is already automated even without using AI
@@codebasics😢
Combine Devin AI and Open AIs new robot, get it to walk better and our jobs will be gone
In theory that is possible. Practically however think about robots walking on the streets and interacting with humans, which government would allow that? It will have to go through a long long process of approvals etc. The way governments functions and imminent impact on labour market, I see that we are far away from that future. I have been living in the USA and autonomous driving as a technology is already available but you don't see fully autonomous, driverless cars yet just because of regulations. If you think about factories however certainly robots will be taking our jobs and that's when D&I programs will come in play and help save some jobs.
Forget about now what will happen in 5 years we can't even imagine what will happen
Ai is improving at terrifying speed we can't cope up with the speed
Next up is Devil : The First Ai Cybersecurity Engineee
AI doesn’t have IQ value until unless give any human instructions machine won’t take any decision, domain knowledge and understanding business case AI can’t do.
All we be replaced!!!
Yes if you are SDE 1.o
No if you are SDE 2.o
Presenting... AbKya-GPT.
sir what about freshers, what should we do or not
Build fundamental and timeless core skills such as communication, strong foundation in math/statistics, business understanding, stakeholder management etc. These skills will help you even if AI has taken jobs. You will need humans in a work force and those are the skills that will attract interviewer's attention!
I remember people in offices in the 1990's clinging to their IBM Selectric typewriters years after computers rolled out? More worried about their jobs vs what was reality of the future.
Déjà vu all over again, right? Guess we will see what happens.
If anyone can make it work this Scott Wu sounds like the person. When most were learning fractions in Junior High he was winning all Math and Coding Competitions in the past. Search for videos about Scott Wu and you'll see he is brilliant beyond most people's comprehension.
Well yeah, Scott is one in a million smart, truly amazing, I've seen his math competition videos.
it will be interesting to see how Devin will increase its 14% accuracy in the coming years.
some RELIEF 😶
I don't see any indians transitioning to plumbers, locksmiths or mechanics anytime soon 😂😂
Can you hire me… i recently got laid off from swiggy😢
Reason?
@@d3v1lI cost cutting is the reason
at which position you were
@@Kashmir_Daily_shorts data analyst
yes Dhaval, Robert should not be taken lightly xD
I have started learning Data analytics and i am 25. Is it worthy? Do reply
I believe it makes sense to learn it as data analyst 2.0 will be needed (at least for the next few years)
No. Go for government job. You still have time.
how will someone get into SDE if nobody wants SDE1
SDE1 to SDE2 is not an evolution. SDE2 is all about mindset. So you can become SDE2 without becoming SDE1 first.
I clearly understand your bias but its clear; THE DAYS OF SOFTWARE ENGINEERS are numbered.
Maybe in future but not yet.
Its neaaaar future ai growing so faaast
I'm the 1000th person to like this video.,
Now my blood pressure is normal.😊
If they released an AI that replaced all CEOs they would stop AI immediately.
😂
That is so dumb!
Just because you walked to the client, why should Devin be put into a robot to walk to the client ?!
There is such a thing as distance communication which can simply have Devin have a conversation with a client over telecom.
Seriously !!!
Despite all the defensive posture, I see a real fear that, in a few years at the most, 90% of your employees may no longer be your employees and even worse is, the end customers themselves use those advanced tools in the not-too--distant future to obviate your having to walk to your client to get their requirements.
Basically, they can put many small Dev shops completely out of business with tools available right on their Net connected laptops, etc. Better to take that as a given in a few years and try to work out a new business model where you are still relevant. Don't know what that is likely to be and its going to be hard not to become irrelevant within the net decade.
Your point that ideally we don't need to do in-person meetings is absolutely correct but many organizations and projects insist on in-person conversations and before I mention some real incident let's make sure the base of our discussion is clear: I am talking about the next 5 years (2024 to 2029), beyond that, I clearly said it is a *mixed bag of chaos and opportunities* (chaos ~ job losses / social unrest, opportunities ~ cure for cancer). Coming back to a real incident: We are working on an AI project and recently I was asked to travel to the West Coast (from the East Coast) for a set of in-person meetings. Why they do need in person meeting (7 hour travel + $$$ on hotels etc) when you can easily do this on Zoom? This is because in-person meetings open up conversations about the vision of the product, the life stories of the founders that inspired that vision, and many other dimensions that can have direct implications on how the product gets developed. I have a friend who works in Oracle ERP cloud where he deals with government officials who are dumb and do not even know how to use Excel. The same officials control budget approvals, and they have domain understanding, and requirements of a software project all in their heads. To work on such projects it is required you travel to DC, have a couple of conversations, and get the information out in a traditional human conversation way. Good luck putting them in front of an AI agent over a telecom conference. They are super sensitive about data privacy, who will trust sharing confidential information with Devin when the creators of Devin themselves are a bit clueless about how Devin behaves (pointing to AI explainability here). Now one may argue what if a robot is playing every single role (product manager, business owner, programmer etc.) well at that point humanity is already doomed and it goes beyond the scope of this discussion (i.e. beyond 5 years)
I don't think AI can test itself as testers need to come with up creative ways to break the system and find bugs. Since AI itself has developed the system there might some bias in the model. As far as devs is concerned the use of programming languages is going to go away and they will be using prompts to create the applications. Remember AI models however advance they cannot mimic the creativity of a human brain.
Especially the jugaadu behavior we humans have. 😂
U said it a month before ,people are getting it now that devin is a gimmick.
Sir what about data scientists is it going to replace them ?
Please watch the video again and understand the point behind 1.0 and 2.0 career. That same concept applies to data scientists, AI engineers etc. For next 5 years, I personally see the demand for data scientists and AI engineers going up because in my own company I am hiring these folks and clearly entire industry is spending money in various AI, DS initiatives. For these initiatives you will need data scientists and AI engineers. Arguing that Devin AI will replace them as well is a very immature statement to make right now (at least looking at 5 years horizon)
@@codebasicssir is it true that mostly folks with masters or phd in ai only get packages over 100k usd ?
pls reply sir as im confused between taking btech cse or btech aiml
Do reply sir thank you!
figure ai watching from corner: Interesting
AI is bamasura ,were he put his on own head to him self. Human are not just who repeat what they learnt, but take one top extra… the one step extra is towards evolution.. creating new things and progress human kind. This one step is true in any field like transport.. we did jump directly to bull cart… had problem and each time a step.. AI is good at collecting thing are repeat it. Can it try new steps and can it afford to fail. But if we replace all repeat thing by AI. Human will not take that extra steps and that leads to stand still world… everything is SD 1.0…
Bro 😂.. even i just keep in one side that 1.O and 2.O ..... AI even can't create complex Front-end of a software where needs only JavaScript and lots of css 😂...and you are talking about system design level things.. thoes are nightmare for AI to understanding the business and make efficient software where only coding is not main thing.
And please be clear that is software engineering is not only just coding.. its more then that.