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  • @user-vx6lx4tt2d
    @user-vx6lx4tt2d 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    So why if you ring the court with your case number they know nothing about it

    • @Eatcrow
      @Eatcrow 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If it is for council tax then it’s because it’s on a bulk listing with about 1000 other people and not under your own individual name

  • @performanceartisthannah-ba7948
    @performanceartisthannah-ba7948 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Just because they do not hire the court for public hearings doesn't mean they are not accessing the court for hearings. A decade ago for example a private man could simply access a court building for a private or public hearing. I think the trick is that they've only told you they do not HIRE the court. This simply means that they are not charging for use of the public building. What they are doing is cherry picking who is allowed to hold public or private hearings.

    • @newagetemplar6100
      @newagetemplar6100 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A guy just recently tried to apply for a public hearing and failed on several attempts. He kept getting the run around by the judge and clerk . They even passed on the buck to the police outside the courthouse and refused them entry .
      Think the content was recently on Banaman .
      Looks like their getting very scared

    • @dennisblair9626
      @dennisblair9626 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You're correct, you still can bring a claim in your own court "The Court of John Doe", against another man or woman (including one, who from time to time acts as an agent for government) - the clerk must provide a room and a magistrate or jury! They will resist so you must push to evoke it! Do not use their forms or language; you set the rules - 'No Bar Association Members', politicians do not front-up without their representation & their immunity so success is guaranteed. But you don't 'hire' the courtroom!

    • @newagetemplar6100
      @newagetemplar6100 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dennisblair9626
      Ways round anything if you have the knowledge . Unfortunately the mercenaries ( solicitors) and judges etc will do their best to wriggle out of any such scenario amongst many other cases .
      I’ve come to the conclusion the justice system is actually demonic , in a way survival of the most knowledgeable and corrupt.
      Just look how hard it is to go full sovereign citizen, one should just be able to write to the Vatican and say fcuk off .

  • @eastcoastuk1120
    @eastcoastuk1120 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    When I attend Colchester Court and say Council Tax I am shown to the Council Workers dealing with Council tax. they are in the court. YES they do conduct business on Court property. Hire it is a red herring.

    • @stephenboyd4934
      @stephenboyd4934 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes whether they hire or just use, it's all the same bollox

    • @Eatcrow
      @Eatcrow 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In court cases the court encourages the parties to reach an agreement so as not to waste the courts valuable time and therefore it is in everybody’s interest if they meet to try and iron out their differences and there’s nothing wrong with the council trying to settle the matter before going into court in principle

    • @BassRTA84
      @BassRTA84 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its not a "red herring", because when they take say 6-10 people to court on a day, everyone has a fee charged to their account. In Boston councils case, its £75, and they also cant charge more than what it costs them to HIRE the room, as to make a profit.
      Imo his FOI application wasn't specific enough, so they've answered on technically to get around saying yes 🙄

    • @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel
      @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @BassRTA84 it doesn't get anymore clearer than the courts are not hired by the council!

    • @eastcoastuk1120
      @eastcoastuk1120 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel Then why are they conducting their business in the court Building . IN COLCHESTER Magistrates court It is not a room but the corridor/foyer outside the actual courtrooms. The usher directs you to the council employees. It is where they are carrying their business of persuading people to pay their council tax by negotiation of a payment plan.. therefore if they are not hiring the court itself or a room they are being allowed to trade there. WHY?

  • @thebigpicture9498
    @thebigpicture9498 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Events and not hiring doesn't mean they don't do it. If it is just classed as an event and isn't charged for it would never appear in any records.

  • @Spenny-px3mu
    @Spenny-px3mu 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You're taking the word of the people who were lying to you in the first place!

    • @tcrookes2803
      @tcrookes2803 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is written evidence from the source. If it is found to be false, then the author and their superiors would be liable for the lies. Do you think they would deliberately risk being caught out?

    • @rachelb8863
      @rachelb8863 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good point

  • @cleveland100
    @cleveland100 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    there is a letter floating round from cryodon magistrates court were it is admitted that the council hire the room !!

    • @tcrookes2803
      @tcrookes2803 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Room or court, there's a big difference?

    • @cleveland100
      @cleveland100 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tcrookes2803 yes you are right on that point!! same way in civil court judgements are made in chambers not a court

    • @10tendogsdonie
      @10tendogsdonie 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@tcrookes2803a room in our public building,

  • @MM-su9ew
    @MM-su9ew 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    could not be arsed to deal with those rude people!!! ignore everything!! ghost mode

  • @user-zn8hd3kj6u
    @user-zn8hd3kj6u 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If they dont hire out court rooms for council tax , then they must be legit courtrooms or fraudulent .

  • @stevestephens8969
    @stevestephens8969 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The way the system is currently operated certainly leads
    people looking for an excuse to believe that the Council
    Hires out the Court for Council Tax purposes.
    Anybody challenging Council Tax is confronted with
    a very 'lax' and in some cases 'loose' First hearing whereby
    it's only when 'Challenged' and removed from the Days Bulk Hearing list
    that it then morphs into that of a ''Contested Hearing'
    and is then subsequently Adjourned with allocated Case Number for a future date.
    And due to people not being listed in or noted in the Court Data Base of the day
    for that first initial Hearing, i.e Their Name Not on the Court List, just furthers their belief
    after the event, that the process they have just endured was ''Council Operated''.
    Obviously the Council take liberties in these circumstances by approaching
    all those that attend and trying to make ''arrangements' to avoid personal
    Court Appearances which just further adds to the belief that it's the Council;
    who are 'running' things.

  • @SEM7-SEM7
    @SEM7-SEM7 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    HMCTS doesn't hire courts, but the council does. They conduct hearings over the phone privately without involving magistrates. Since magistrates stated they're not involved in council tax matters, my case lacks a court case number. My name wasn't found in the Court Serve website or their system as confirmed via email. The summons instructs not to contact the court but only the council, limiting my defence, etc. Ripsy, DeniedTruth

  • @leavemyrightsalone
    @leavemyrightsalone 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    We've been led up the garden path for a very very long time.

  • @stuartmckenzie8095
    @stuartmckenzie8095 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Council hired or not they are not courts of justice, they are administrative Courts. The information you have uncovered has be upheld by the so called higher courts for many, years now and will always be enforced by the CROWN CORPORATION, but just because they have a so called belief system in place doesn’t mean the real law makers ( the people) can’t force change if they feel it’s doesn’t serve in fairness and Justice.

  • @rikholmes806
    @rikholmes806 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why isn’t there a case number with the summons

    • @10tendogsdonie
      @10tendogsdonie 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because its not a court of record,

  • @dmaria-gf6pn
    @dmaria-gf6pn 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yes they do, I told the sheriff offices that I knew this, after them chasing me for stopping council tax. I have not heard for a while now but got "my! new CT for this yr. I will tape it for my channel. Thanks guys

    • @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel
      @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Clearly the FOI states the courts are NOT hired. This makes perfect sense. If there are any court staff willing to put something in writing to say differently then this will need sorting out, but the FOI stands as the only reliable evidence there is confirming courts are not hired to councils.

    • @dmaria-gf6pn
      @dmaria-gf6pn 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel So the councils use somewhere else, That sheriff officer told me they can take me to court on behalf of the council. Their address is in Edinburgh, but have another in Glasgow. Maybe between them the make all this court stuff up. It's been a few yrs now since I stopped paying parking fines and after threats of whatever, they give up. All threats to scare ppl to pay up. Anyway, the system is corrupt, it can be like a maze to get the truuth.

    • @10tendogsdonie
      @10tendogsdonie 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I've been to the court building, which is administrativ, each council is either torie or Labour, is a scam come on there is no contract with a corporation, show the proof of contract, never will be because not one of us agreed to be a customer of a political party, THINK!!

  • @Elaine-qi6sc
    @Elaine-qi6sc 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you, i was told this by Bradford court 3 years ago 🙏

  • @genuinearticle33
    @genuinearticle33 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The General Rule is that Hearings are to be held in Public unless the nature of the proceedings require a Private Hearing, the CPR rules govern this and give examples of what is likely to require a Hearing in Private. However it certainly is the case that the Legal Officers, Ushers and Magistrates in the Magistrates Courts have adopted a custom of deterring people who turn up to hear hearings in Public, i have myself experienced this and be asked with suspicion what reason i had to sit in the Public Gallery and observe the proceedings, they do appear to at least make you feel like you should not be going in there, in some cases where Privacy is required you would expect them to state on the case number or hearing room that a Hearing is in Private, rather than being told orally upon arrival...Council Tax and warrants of Entry for Gas etc do not fit the criteria for a hearing in Private ....

  • @mikkyfinn1111
    @mikkyfinn1111 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As the courts are public build8ngs / publicly accessible why is there no PLI public liability insurance?

    • @cleveland100
      @cleveland100 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      better question would be, solicitors and barriers only hold general liability insurance which only covers then for mistakes and false omissions in their office not in a public court

    • @zkovacs01
      @zkovacs01 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is the magistrate's legal advisor a public servant?

    • @mikkyfinn1111
      @mikkyfinn1111 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zkovacs01 magistrates association have a look on companies house Royal charter and very weird as contact the company for further info , also back in the day there was the justice clerks society who were struck off JUSTICECLERCS'SOCIETY they used to register magistrates courts as there place (places) of business hence moj and Hmcts foi responses are from a lady called sian who used to be a director of justice clerks society as justice clerks were a company then the companies act 2006 would apply

  • @MrArthand
    @MrArthand 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent work 👏

  • @Geo65582
    @Geo65582 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I heard about courts being hired out and thought it wouldn't surprise me no more
    I have always thought for council tax and tv license are allocated one court room and just heard council/license all day long . criminal court is a separate court room
    I have spoken to people who think that non payment of council/license fees hold up the the criminal court which isnt true that why they have separate court rooms

  • @SEM7-SEM7
    @SEM7-SEM7 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the council is not the same as HMCTS. Councils, or local authorities, are responsible for local governance and public services within their respective areas. On the other hand, HM Courts & Tribunals Service (HMCTS) is a national agency responsible for the administration of the courts and tribunals system in England and Wales. They operate independently of each other and serve different functions within the UK’s administrative and legal systems. 😊

  • @NatNay-cu3uv
    @NatNay-cu3uv 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You can have the illusion of freedom so long as it is profitable to give it to you
    But. When it does not become profitable
    Guess what 😂🎉😢😮😅😊😊

  • @JohnSmith-vy4lh
    @JohnSmith-vy4lh 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Courts are a business and judges are self employed, which makes them the data controller.
    Magistrates courts can deal with civil matters. Their fee is lower than the CC.
    I would say that councils have an arrangement with the courts.
    If you put in a foi request asking the court how much do the council pay you, and ask the council how much you actually pay the court, and see if the answers tally.
    You can audit your council under the local audit and accountability act 2014.

  • @henrywaterhouse6291
    @henrywaterhouse6291 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would it be worth doing a FOI for how many times the court is privately hired.

  • @10tendogsdonie
    @10tendogsdonie 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Commerce is buisness, buisness requures a contract with an agreement to proceed, no contract no buisness! its that simple,

  • @boxingbill100
    @boxingbill100 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes old news we all knew this what was this point to clarify what we all knew

  • @KKingkwade
    @KKingkwade 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    follow the money 💰

    • @10tendogsdonie
      @10tendogsdonie 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ALWAYS, 👌 thats why we're all on to it when it comes out it's curtains,

  • @jayturner3397
    @jayturner3397 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good men 👏 👌 👍

  • @bertibear1300
    @bertibear1300 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Liking the short videos,

  • @cytharecooper
    @cytharecooper 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😍

  • @globalwarninguk
    @globalwarninguk 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you guys. Not wishing to undermine what you're saying but your level of sarcasm was so deep that I didn't know what parts of your dialogue is true or untrue. I read the link about being able to hire the court and the response to your FOI but they don't seem to confirm that that is actually what the councils are doing. I quote here what the last part of the FOI response says.
    "it is unclear if the council itself is
    directly hiring court facilities or services for these hearings."
    So, do they or don't they hire the court? That is the question?

    • @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel
      @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is part of our FOI to them. Please understand how an FOI works. The answer is quite clear at the bottom of the page.

    • @globalwarninguk
      @globalwarninguk 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel Thanks, yes I can see now I hadn't read far enough down. Sorry my fault I shouldn't try and read things on my mobile as the screen is the size of a postage stamp. Thanks again for clarifying the point.

  • @ehak2095
    @ehak2095 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So what is the purpuse of this video, the title contradicts the contence. Keep it simple becouse now you going radiculus with this CT arguments.

  • @jayturner3397
    @jayturner3397 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    HMP inmates on a jolly 😅😂

  • @markmuir7267
    @markmuir7267 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So if this is the case I am a little confused as to the point of the vid. Hiring a court room or not does this change anything that at even a rudimentary level, the process by which council tax defaults are judged are woefully inadequate and far from what most of us would understand as lawful. Furthermore, once found liable for CT arrears, the whole process of collection is even further down the ladder of illegality

    • @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel
      @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is a popular brief and claim from the truth movement that the courts are hired buy councils, this is an attempt to help others understand that is not the case and therefore stop spreading the nonsense!

    • @markmuir7267
      @markmuir7267 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel Yep, that point is made super clear in the vid - does this understanding, or if you like, a re-education of those who think it is hired, make any difference to the general point of PK and others, as in, the councils have a very difficult time proving the legality and otherwise of CT and their strategies for collecting arrears is equally fraught? I dont want to be missing anything here as I have just decided to withhold my CT due to complete and utter incompetence of my CC

  • @mikkyfinn1111
    @mikkyfinn1111 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another little one when one phones the police non emergency one of the options is do you require a custody sweet ???

    • @Eatcrow
      @Eatcrow 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I always Press option 4 Toffee Apple! 😂

  • @NatNay-cu3uv
    @NatNay-cu3uv 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Eet zee bu65

  • @SA-ey3uq
    @SA-ey3uq 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So you've gone on ONE FOI reply....suddenly HM Gov is trustworthy??? 'Just because someone says it doesn't make it true' - yet that's exactly what you've done.

    • @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel
      @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's the evidence so far and perfectly rational, unless of course you have any further evidence to the contrary?

  • @xdc1776
    @xdc1776 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it's not on the television so I don't believe you 😂

  • @blueyon
    @blueyon 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow took u a long time to work this out! Next u should confirm a fee has been paid for proceedings to commence.

    • @tcrookes2803
      @tcrookes2803 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They've always known but it's others who are spreading the myth and it's those that refuse to get the evidence, so it's been up to PK to do the work, as usual.

    • @Eatcrow
      @Eatcrow 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes it’s 50p! However it was reduced from £2.50 some years ago however the Ministry of Justice some £34 million to all of the councils, can you guess what the council did with the money?
      Yes that’s right they kept it and didn’t mention it to anybody , Buckinghamshire Council for example pocketed £171,000 and said it was too difficult for them to give the money back. This is the sort of corruption that goes on when nobody stands up to hold these criminals to account

  • @rockcrusher4636
    @rockcrusher4636 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Click bait, you'll never beat them within THEIR system, great what your trying, but there is no application form to get out of the mafia.

    • @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel
      @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Incorrect, you haven't been keeping up with what we have been doing.
      th-cam.com/video/0LOY23fTujE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6VQ30ai5z-lU3KUc

    • @rockcrusher4636
      @rockcrusher4636 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel Sadly you are not getting it, you are still in their arena, it's not ours and never will be. You got one plantation owner to half way treat his people half correctly. It's the system that has to go. I'm not being rude, but constructive I've been doing this since 1965 as a human rights lawyer (not bar) and this must be fixed in our own court of record not theirs. Cheers.

    • @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel
      @PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rockcrusher4636 not getting "it". Sadly I don't believe you actually understand what we are doing, I fully recommend joining our zoom calls on Thursday evenings. Also I highly recommend doing our free Peace Keepers Fundamental course and you will quickly understand.

    • @rockcrusher4636
      @rockcrusher4636 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PeaceKeepersOfficialChannel I have done your courses, please stay informed, I have also won more than 3000 cases, all I repeat all out of court, I don't relate to the satanic in any way. I'm so dangerous to their system that I have lived in exile 43 years. I don't need an education. Cheers.

    • @Eatcrow
      @Eatcrow 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rockcrusher4636 by taking a deeper dive into this subject I have discovered that these are OUR COURTS that I put there for the benefit of THE PEOPLE as enshrined in our unalienable rights. Look up the glorious revolution of 1689 and the Bill of Rights, it’s actually quite fascinating what happened and how clever our forefathers actually were that set laws in motion for our protection against the tyranny we are currently facing. Escapers is the only place I know where this information is handed out not for profit and genuinely works

  • @mickybutts7106
    @mickybutts7106 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They might not hire the court but they run the preceding.

    • @Eatcrow
      @Eatcrow 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The proceedings in court are run by the judge or the legal advisor and you would know that if you attended one

    • @mickybutts7106
      @mickybutts7106 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Eatcrow I've attended CT hearings twice. Even the revenue recovery manager council at the council has told me its there procedure to adjourn the first hearing.
      It even tells you in the "clerks justice society" that the hearings are run by the council WTFU.

    • @Eatcrow
      @Eatcrow 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mickybutts7106 JCS advice and Govt advice says exactly the opposite “ the council are not to be seen to be in charge of the process”