While this is true, Duncan also missed two layups with a chance to tie game 7 with 50 seconds left while being guarded by Shane Battier who was 4 inches shorter than him.
@@louisrosenberg8042 Sure. But his defense had nothing to do with Duncan blowing the layups. Duncan got the rebound after his first miss and just had to tip the ball in, something he was better at than pretty much anyone in the NBA. And Pop took Duncan out of the lineup, which made it possible for Bosh to grab the rebound and pass it to Allen for the three. Bosh wouldn’t have gotten that rebound with Timmy on the court.
If Tim hadn't been injured in 2000, I believe the spurs would have beaten them again for the repeat. Kobe and Shaq were at the breaking point, and that would have resulted in one of them being traded (probably Kobe at that time). Would have changed EVERYTHING. How many titles would Tim have? But it didn't happen... interesting to think about.
From 99-2003 Shaq and Duncan were also the 2 best players in the league. Kevin Garnett got closer across that time and in 2004 I think it was more KG/Duncan than Shaq.
I just wanna say one thing that couldnt be more wrong about this video. He said Parker and Ginobili are longshots for the Hall of Fame, and that is the only thing I have heard this guy say thats just flat out stupid. Parker and ESPECIALLY Ginobili are locks for the hall and were multiple years before they retired. He was just trying to downplay the amount of help Duncan had.
This video went overboard in arguing for Tim by diminishing Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker; unjustly so. Manu from 2005-2008 was an all nba caliber player every season, and in discussion as one of the 15 or 10 best players in the game. He wasn't getting that much adulation, but most people hated or didn't care about the Spurs. They turned the Finals off when they were in it. I think Manu did crack into the top 10 player finally in 07-08. He was injured the 2008 playoffs and never reached that same level again, missing a lot lot of 2009, but bounced back in 09-10 and 10-11 with 2 more fringe all nba level seasons. Tony was never as good as Manu, but still had multiple all star level seasons where he was one of the top ~20 or so players in the league, and 08-09 12-13 he got close to top 10 as well. Tony was an all star caliber player from 05/06-08/09 and 10/11-13/14. It doesn't reflect bad on Tim that he had 2 all star level teammates from 2006-2008. Manu even led the league in adjusted plus minus a couple times from 05-08. Tim's teams were frankly loaded from 2005-2007, and 2012-2016. Tim's best seasons are from 97-07 though. Those seasons are 80-90% of why he is a top 10 player of all time. His best 2 seasons, 2002 and 2003, were 2 of the worst teams he ever had. It's just lazy to try to downplay Tony and Manu to talk up Tim. Tim Duncan is still a top 10 player all time. I don't think he has a real case as the best player ever, but neither does Kobe/Bird/Magic/Wilt/KG/Shaq/Hakeem in my opinion.
On this specific video he went into the comment section and corrected himself. He even said that he wasn't sure why he said that but knew it was wrong after he made the video
The basketball Hall of Fame also considers your collegiate and international accomplishments, so both should be locks. The basketball Hall of Fame is one of the easier Hall of Fames to get into.
Man this video made me tear up . Growing up I hated the spurs because they would always face off against the Lakers and Mavs in the playoffs but as I’ve grown old I’ve realized how much I loved their style of play and every single player on their roster ! Timmy , Manu , and Tony seemed almost unstoppable in their primes it was truly art watching them play 😭.
I think he helped his team make it to the playoffs for 19 season. That's just crazy I don't know where that stat compares to others. But that's still amazing.
I've watched a few of your videos, but this one is my favorites. Probably because I'm from San Antonio and I love Tim Duncan. Tbh Timmy is the reason why the Spurs are still here. He brought championships here. Something we've never had. And the spurs have been around since the ABA days. The Spurs are a small market team But people around the world know who the Spurs are.
That's my favorite video from this series, i'm so glad you reacted to this. I think Kareem video would bee very interesting for you, but of course they all good in their own ways
I’m from San Antonio so this is hella nostalgic 😭 I legit cried when he retired lol I also laughed when Duncan grabbed parker like that. Parker is 6 ft 1 btw yeah our team has never been super flashy. We just want good teamwork and friends 😭😭😭❤️
Tim Duncan made it look easy. He rarely reacted so when Timmy got pumped up, you knew you were in trouble. Those were some great Spurs teams. He never did too much, always fundamentally sound.
Tim Duncan was one the most humble and mild-mannered players in the NBA. He didn't care about the fame and wasn't obsessed with merchandising himself. He was a real class act.
Man I miss Duncan. I am a huge Spurs fan and even a season ticket holder. This guy was just pure. I will say that he is my all time favorite player. No flash or flair, just work and results. He was funny as hell too. Plus got ejected for laughing making Crawford public enemy #1 here in SA. Old Man Riverwalk will always be what every player should aspire to be.
The reason for comparison with shaq is because the lakers on spurs were often the best teams in the west and they would have to through each other to get to the finals. For him to say with shaq it was more aesthetic and about seeing a big guy move like him, I disagree. Sure that’s part of it but the way shaq had the strength to just bully other big men in the post was just crazy. Teams had to really strategize how to keep their big men from fouling out or just getting dunked on all game. Duncan is a complete opposite, he was good at everything but not necessarily the best at any particular thing. Maybe help defense IQ but nothing obvious.
Well as a Spurs fan in my opinion Tim is the greatest power forward ever. And in my opinion he is the greatest player to ever play and that is because this video also explains it very well. Especially the last couple of years before Tim retired every year for that matter In the offseason everyone would say the Spurs are done they don’t have it anymore they are to old blah blah and the Spurs would prove the doubters wrong. People also say that he had a lot of help but another thing is that the Spurs always had a good bench and roll players to take the load off, we always had depth. He even said that at Tim’s second act he underperformed but was still consistent and it was because tony and manu took off the load that Tim has carried for decades. I could go on but Tim definitely is the greatest and if you say he isn’t even top 5 or the top 10 all time then you don’t appreciate true basketball or true greatness and that further explains why he deserves the goat status...
Man, this actually made me tear up. Spurs are my team because of Duncan. When he came in, he was just the player I gravitated to. Great winner, awesome person. One thing I will say the narrator got wrong is his teammates. Especially Manu, Tony, Robinson, and others. I think I love the team because they were more relatable to me. I can write a whole essay on em, but they are amazing.
I think you would really like The Beautiful Game... It studies the Spurs team during their 2013 season. The Spurs under Coach Pop are unique in today's NBA and it's not only special, but absolutely beautiful to watch. Their ball movement and teamwork is unmatched.
There were and are definitely a lot of arguments about Duncan/Shaq. There was a stretch where one of the 2 of them was in the Finals every year for 9 years in a row. They won 8 of them. 4 each.
They didnt really have a rivalry not even today, but the guy in the vid was using them to show how timmys and shaqs differences when it comes to team chemistry, being a good teammate, etc
For perspective, 3 total seconds keep duncan from getting a potential 8 rings instead of 5. Derrick Fishers .4 shot, allens heat 1 second shot, and the clippers 1 second shot in a game 7. Duncan is GOAT
I didn't agree with that. But they wouldn't be without Tim Duncan. If either one of them was the face of the franchise. That franchise wouldn't be very good
The shaq is more of a rivalry because of his time on Lakers and spurs had rivalry at the time. It just kept getting compared after that because they were both best big men at the time too during their reign.
Though I agree that Tim Duncan is arguably the most selfless superstar of all time (along with Bill Russell), He was damn near ready to leave in the early 00’s, I’m sure we’ve all heard the Magic/Doc Rivers story.
@@DP_1605 Bill Russell isn't selfless. He's. It a good offensive player. He wouldn't be able to outplay Cousy, Sam Jones, or Havlicek even if he wanted to. His strength was defense.
Love this video, only thing I have to say, and it's really minor, is that I think Tony Parker and Manu are not really longshots for the hall of fame, I'm pretty sure they'll get in.
Parker & Ginoboli wouldnt have been stars without TD, same with coach Pop. TD made others better. >70% win pct, 5 rings, won a ring in 3 different decades & never missed playoffs.
That's some bullshit. Parker is an elite point guard that would do well in any franchise and Ginobili could have had way higher stats on any other team. If anything, he sacrificed a lot by playing on the bench and being on the Spurs. The Spurs is like the antithesis of the Nash Suns and the "stars" of today with padded stats due to the fast pace.
That was a great video but Manu and Tony Parker are not fringe Hall of Famers. They're absolute locks to make the HoF just like Duncan. Neither have an argument as the GOATs like Duncan but to say he didn't have star players helping him is just flat out untrue. He had maybe the best coach ever and 2 Hall of Famers alongside him for most of his career. Doesnt diminish anything he did, but that's the truth.
@@TonyG4206 MJ stole the ball on q regular basis whole blocking shots better than any other guard. While scoring 30. MJ is definitely a better 2 way than Duncan.
If Duncan had a David Robinson in his prime he would be considered one of the GOATS in Basketball 🏀 for sure. LeBron had to go with Kyrie Irving and had Anthony Davis and D-Wade. He played with so many superstars 😂. Who was Duncan’s best players? Ginobili and Parker are not on D-wade’s or AD’s level. Come one now. 😆
Manu and Tony would never believe that though. They were a real team built around Duncan. Duncan wouldn't claim he is the best either. They were true winners not glory chasers.
Outperformed him in box scores, but when you look at the teams offensive and defensive ratings with Duncan off the court and on the court, you would see clearly just how much Duncan would effect all of those pkayers performances. Who was the person setting solid screens allowing Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi, to wreak havoc and forcing defensive switches? That would be Duncan. Who would occupy the shot blockers when those three guys attacked the rim? Duncan. There is more to the game than just looking at stats.
I think his reasons was Duncan’s ability to defend 3 positions from post to perimeter Why Shaq could only defend down load why that’s more of a difference of position Duncan definitely could do more for the over all defense
Duncan is the Ray Allen shot away from being 6-0 in the Finals, just like MJ.
That’s honestly so crazy. Duncan is one of the greatest players of all time and we often forget about how dominant he was
While this is true, Duncan also missed two layups with a chance to tie game 7 with 50 seconds left while being guarded by Shane Battier who was 4 inches shorter than him.
@@LanceJ. I remember that. Battier's defense was incredible.
@@louisrosenberg8042 Sure. But his defense had nothing to do with Duncan blowing the layups. Duncan got the rebound after his first miss and just had to tip the ball in, something he was better at than pretty much anyone in the NBA.
And Pop took Duncan out of the lineup, which made it possible for Bosh to grab the rebound and pass it to Allen for the three. Bosh wouldn’t have gotten that rebound with Timmy on the court.
I was so devastated that game. I was just sitting by myself after, drinking the bottle of wine I thought I'd be drinking in celebration.
As a Lakers fan, those LA vs San Antonio games were intense. To get out of the West you had to go through either the Lakers or the Spurs
Kobe and Duncan own 10 of the 16 titles between 1999-2014
GREATNESS
I hated Kobe and the Lakers growing up. Rip😥
If Tim hadn't been injured in 2000, I believe the spurs would have beaten them again for the repeat. Kobe and Shaq were at the breaking point, and that would have resulted in one of them being traded (probably Kobe at that time).
Would have changed EVERYTHING. How many titles would Tim have? But it didn't happen... interesting to think about.
@@davidphillips9140 10 out of 16 titles and 13 out of 16 appearances in the finals between 1999-2014. They were just dominant. Crazy doe.
There were comparisons between Shaq and Duncan because the Lakers and the Spurs were the two dominant teams of the 00's.
From 99-2003 Shaq and Duncan were also the 2 best players in the league. Kevin Garnett got closer across that time and in 2004 I think it was more KG/Duncan than Shaq.
The Bill Russell one is fantastic
Probably my favorite one. Gave me chills
Gotta do that one next!
I just wanna say one thing that couldnt be more wrong about this video. He said Parker and Ginobili are longshots for the Hall of Fame, and that is the only thing I have heard this guy say thats just flat out stupid. Parker and ESPECIALLY Ginobili are locks for the hall and were multiple years before they retired. He was just trying to downplay the amount of help Duncan had.
Yup, both are easily locks
This video went overboard in arguing for Tim by diminishing Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker; unjustly so.
Manu from 2005-2008 was an all nba caliber player every season, and in discussion as one of the 15 or 10 best players in the game. He wasn't getting that much adulation, but most people hated or didn't care about the Spurs. They turned the Finals off when they were in it. I think Manu did crack into the top 10 player finally in 07-08. He was injured the 2008 playoffs and never reached that same level again, missing a lot lot of 2009, but bounced back in 09-10 and 10-11 with 2 more fringe all nba level seasons.
Tony was never as good as Manu, but still had multiple all star level seasons where he was one of the top ~20 or so players in the league, and 08-09 12-13 he got close to top 10 as well.
Tony was an all star caliber player from 05/06-08/09 and 10/11-13/14.
It doesn't reflect bad on Tim that he had 2 all star level teammates from 2006-2008. Manu even led the league in adjusted plus minus a couple times from 05-08.
Tim's teams were frankly loaded from 2005-2007, and 2012-2016.
Tim's best seasons are from 97-07 though. Those seasons are 80-90% of why he is a top 10 player of all time. His best 2 seasons, 2002 and 2003, were 2 of the worst teams he ever had. It's just lazy to try to downplay Tony and Manu to talk up Tim.
Tim Duncan is still a top 10 player all time. I don't think he has a real case as the best player ever, but neither does Kobe/Bird/Magic/Wilt/KG/Shaq/Hakeem in my opinion.
On this specific video he went into the comment section and corrected himself. He even said that he wasn't sure why he said that but knew it was wrong after he made the video
@@dawsonp3314 oh ok that makes sense because usually he’s spot on
The basketball Hall of Fame also considers your collegiate and international accomplishments, so both should be locks. The basketball Hall of Fame is one of the easier Hall of Fames to get into.
Man this video made me tear up . Growing up I hated the spurs because they would always face off against the Lakers and Mavs in the playoffs but as I’ve grown old I’ve realized how much I loved their style of play and every single player on their roster ! Timmy , Manu , and Tony seemed almost unstoppable in their primes it was truly art watching them play 😭.
I think he helped his team make it to the playoffs for 19 season. That's just crazy I don't know where that stat compares to others. But that's still amazing.
I’m a rockets fan so when I was younger I kind of hated Tim Duncan but now I have respect and fan of him now
I respected Hakeem, but didn't watch ESPN for months after the 95 WCF.
I HATED Sam Cassell tho
Being from San Antonio myself, it was really sad to see him go :(
He might end up coaching tho :) him or becky
Ah yes Tim Duncan, the would be Olympic Swimmer
Tim Duncan is 2nd best player of all time!
I've watched a few of your videos, but this one is my favorites. Probably because I'm from San Antonio and I love Tim Duncan. Tbh Timmy is the reason why the Spurs are still here. He brought championships here. Something we've never had. And the spurs have been around since the ABA days. The Spurs are a small market team But people around the world know who the Spurs are.
TD is being inducted into the HoF this year's class, too.
Watch the one about Wilt. It's honestly incredible
That's my favorite video from this series, i'm so glad you reacted to this. I think Kareem video would bee very interesting for you, but of course they all good in their own ways
I’m from San Antonio so this is hella nostalgic 😭 I legit cried when he retired lol I also laughed when Duncan grabbed parker like that. Parker is 6 ft 1 btw yeah our team has never been super flashy. We just want good teamwork and friends 😭😭😭❤️
Tim Duncan made it look easy. He rarely reacted so when Timmy got pumped up, you knew you were in trouble. Those were some great Spurs teams. He never did too much, always fundamentally sound.
Tim Duncan was one the most humble and mild-mannered players in the NBA. He didn't care about the fame and wasn't obsessed with merchandising himself. He was a real class act.
Man I miss Duncan. I am a huge Spurs fan and even a season ticket holder. This guy was just pure. I will say that he is my all time favorite player. No flash or flair, just work and results. He was funny as hell too. Plus got ejected for laughing making Crawford public enemy #1 here in SA. Old Man Riverwalk will always be what every player should aspire to be.
What an incredibly well made video. It’s so cool seeing how much you’ve gotten into the sport
The reason for comparison with shaq is because the lakers on spurs were often the best teams in the west and they would have to through each other to get to the finals. For him to say with shaq it was more aesthetic and about seeing a big guy move like him, I disagree. Sure that’s part of it but the way shaq had the strength to just bully other big men in the post was just crazy. Teams had to really strategize how to keep their big men from fouling out or just getting dunked on all game. Duncan is a complete opposite, he was good at everything but not necessarily the best at any particular thing. Maybe help defense IQ but nothing obvious.
Well as a Spurs fan in my opinion Tim is the greatest power forward ever. And in my opinion he is the greatest player to ever play and that is because this video also explains it very well. Especially the last couple of years before Tim retired every year for that matter In the offseason everyone would say the Spurs are done they don’t have it anymore they are to old blah blah and the Spurs would prove the doubters wrong. People also say that he had a lot of help but another thing is that the Spurs always had a good bench and roll players to take the load off, we always had depth. He even said that at Tim’s second act he underperformed but was still consistent and it was because tony and manu took off the load that Tim has carried for decades. I could go on but Tim definitely is the greatest and if you say he isn’t even top 5 or the top 10 all time then you don’t appreciate true basketball or true greatness and that further explains why he deserves the goat status...
The best win percentage of any sports team in the world - ever. WOW
The Big Fundamental is one of my favorite players of all time. He was ridiculous for 20 years.
Man, this actually made me tear up. Spurs are my team because of Duncan. When he came in, he was just the player I gravitated to. Great winner, awesome person. One thing I will say the narrator got wrong is his teammates. Especially Manu, Tony, Robinson, and others. I think I love the team because they were more relatable to me. I can write a whole essay on em, but they are amazing.
MY HOMETOWN!!! Timmy is goated for sure
I dont know what is better the basketball videos or the history but they both carry thier own weight
I think you would really like The Beautiful Game... It studies the Spurs team during their 2013 season. The Spurs under Coach Pop are unique in today's NBA and it's not only special, but absolutely beautiful to watch. Their ball movement and teamwork is unmatched.
That was one of the first basketball vids he watched.
Shaq/Duncan went to 8 straight finals from 1999 to 2007. They combined won 7 out of 8.
Check out a compilation of HEB Spurs commercials!!
And his American Express commercial.
There were and are definitely a lot of arguments about Duncan/Shaq. There was a stretch where one of the 2 of them was in the Finals every year for 9 years in a row. They won 8 of them. 4 each.
Luka learning 👍🏻
They didnt really have a rivalry not even today, but the guy in the vid was using them to show how timmys and shaqs differences when it comes to team chemistry, being a good teammate, etc
It doesn’t matter he is top 10 all time no matter what
For perspective, 3 total seconds keep duncan from getting a potential 8 rings instead of 5. Derrick Fishers .4 shot, allens heat 1 second shot, and the clippers 1 second shot in a game 7. Duncan is GOAT
The best making the case video I’ve seen
You have to react to the Dodgers/ Rays game 4 highlights! Holy shit! I can't believe what I just saw!
Yes whole series!!
My favorite players growing up were:
1. Paul Pierce
2. Shaq
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Dirk
Life Beyond II by melodysheep, absolutely amazing, but its another 30 minute one. I now shall wait
bruh Parker and Ginobili aren't "longshots" for the hall of fame
I didn't agree with that. But they wouldn't be without Tim Duncan. If either one of them was the face of the franchise. That franchise wouldn't be very good
The shaq is more of a rivalry because of his time on Lakers and spurs had rivalry at the time. It just kept getting compared after that because they were both best big men at the time too during their reign.
I've watched this video like 100 times already lol
eyyy!! im happy you watched the timmy vid!! you should do magic and bird!!
Yes been waiting for these
Thats why I still get irked at people that leave him off their all time starting 5. Duncan is the perfect Power Forward
Though I agree that Tim Duncan is arguably the most selfless superstar of all time (along with Bill Russell), He was damn near ready to leave in the early 00’s, I’m sure we’ve all heard the Magic/Doc Rivers story.
I don’t think he has
@@kurtwagner350 It’s easy to say now, but the fact he was one superstar perk away from potentially signing would suggest different
@@DP_1605 I meant I’m not sure Luka knows that story as a response to you saying “I’m sure we’ve all heard”
@@kurtwagner350 Oh yeah, your right
@@DP_1605 Bill Russell isn't selfless. He's. It a good offensive player. He wouldn't be able to outplay Cousy, Sam Jones, or Havlicek even if he wanted to. His strength was defense.
He played basketball the 'right way'
The Lakers and the Spurs were the best Western teams for a decade and Timmy / Shaq were the centers when the big man mattered a ton
Love this video, only thing I have to say, and it's really minor, is that I think Tony Parker and Manu are not really longshots for the hall of fame, I'm pretty sure they'll get in.
Well unlike Parker and Ginobolli. There was a case for Tmac being a top 3 or 4 player in the league. Can't say the same for Parker or Ginobolli
Continue the series pleeeeease
Love tim
Parker & Ginoboli wouldnt have been stars without TD, same with coach Pop. TD made others better. >70% win pct, 5 rings, won a ring in 3 different decades & never missed playoffs.
That's some bullshit. Parker is an elite point guard that would do well in any franchise and Ginobili could have had way higher stats on any other team. If anything, he sacrificed a lot by playing on the bench and being on the Spurs. The Spurs is like the antithesis of the Nash Suns and the "stars" of today with padded stats due to the fast pace.
You should react to If finals MVPs were given to the best player
I’m in San Antonio! GG My guy
Time for another Tim Duncan video I think...
you sure like our sports do more weather ones please
Should have had 6 rings but Ray Allen
TD is the GOAT
That was a great video but Manu and Tony Parker are not fringe Hall of Famers. They're absolute locks to make the HoF just like Duncan. Neither have an argument as the GOATs like Duncan but to say he didn't have star players helping him is just flat out untrue. He had maybe the best coach ever and 2 Hall of Famers alongside him for most of his career. Doesnt diminish anything he did, but that's the truth.
How is his two way value basically unmatched when you have Kobe, mj and kg in the last 50 years??
Kobe Bryant and M.J. didn't block shots on a regular basis and Kg in general wasn't as good as an all-around player as tim duncan
@@TonyG4206 Kg was a better passer, and scoring and defense was close in there primes
@@TonyG4206 MJ stole the ball on q regular basis whole blocking shots better than any other guard. While scoring 30. MJ is definitely a better 2 way than Duncan.
San Antonio the spot for the best pf
If Duncan had a David Robinson in his prime he would be considered one of the GOATS in Basketball 🏀 for sure. LeBron had to go with Kyrie Irving and had Anthony Davis and D-Wade. He played with so many superstars 😂. Who was Duncan’s best players? Ginobili and Parker are not on D-wade’s or AD’s level. Come one now. 😆
Did bro say manu and Parker r long shots for the HOF? Thats cap
Luka, are you Xbox or PlayStation
I also disagree with the Star Wars comment as I like more of them than I dislike.
I know this is an NBA video, but when he says “numbers don’t always tell the full story” my mind turns to Aaron Rodgers. Aaron >Tom
TIMMY D
Manu and Tony literally out played Duncan in two finals... also kawhi
Manu and Tony would never believe that though. They were a real team built around Duncan. Duncan wouldn't claim he is the best either. They were true winners not glory chasers.
@@panner11 Yes that’s why they were an elite team, but I don’t like how this guy was downplaying the other members of the spurs
Outperformed him in box scores, but when you look at the teams offensive and defensive ratings with Duncan off the court and on the court, you would see clearly just how much Duncan would effect all of those pkayers performances. Who was the person setting solid screens allowing Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi, to wreak havoc and forcing defensive switches? That would be Duncan. Who would occupy the shot blockers when those three guys attacked the rim? Duncan. There is more to the game than just looking at stats.
Can you please react to jonny arnett This is day 17 of this please
Sorry I am 1 hour late
Shaq was literally 2nd in DPOY in his prime so how wasn’t he close to Duncan defensively?
Shaq in his prime would have a case for goat but I don’t think he does for the totality of his career but he had one of the best primes
@@alexarmstrong4036 Yeah I agree, but he said at nowhere in shaqs career was he close to Tim defensively when that just isn’t true.
I think his reasons was Duncan’s ability to defend 3 positions from post to perimeter Why Shaq could only defend down load why that’s more of a difference of position Duncan definitely could do more for the over all defense
Tim Duncan was in the top 5 of both MVP AND DPOY 6 times in his career. Only MJ at 7 tops him. Shaq isn't even close.
I have Duncan 9th or 8th, maybe at the highest 5th
Pi
Lebron being #2 is a media invention. Lebron isn't top 5 all time. There are better players who accomplished more with less help.
6th
First?
Tie
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