Franziska Von Karma's Last Discussion with her Father
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- [Spoilers for Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Justice For All and Investigations 1/2]
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Maya helps Franziska have one last talk with her late father, Manfred Von Karma. Nuff said.
Made in Objection.lol
Enjoy
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Russian subtitles courtesy of @nattiko8654
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Credits to Artum for the Red Speedlines used on the thumbmail
Characters and Codes:
1) Maya Fey (by me): EEFFQY
2) Kay Faraday (by Eveveryone or X-Vile™✓): YMPRXA
3) Franziska Von Karma (by electric): MZRYPF
4) Barok Van Zieks (by petah): JMGXIZ
5) Manfred Von Karma (by TATom05): HNOPYR
6) Sebastian Debeste (by Idioticheskiy): QTHCXR
7) Miles Edgeworth (by Background): URPZCD
8) Phoenix Wright (by Yumi): PIYMOM
This was a fantastic watch. I always viewed Franziska as a tragic character the writers didn’t properly acknowledge due to the whip bits they overuse with her. She had her whole life molded by a father with a psychotic obsession with perfection and who wanted her to basically be a clone of him. It really makes you wonder if she really wanted to be a prosecutor or if she only walked this path to gain his approval and love. Considering many things about Manfred’s character as shown in every game he has appeared in, it’s definitely the latter.
Yeah, it's definite that she became a prosecutor only because of the shoes she had to fill as the daughter of such a legendary prosecutor (plus the constant "expectations" everyone had of her that she tells us about at the end of JFA).
She had tons of potential. I wish we had seen her get some more decisive character development than have her devolve into a simple slapstick comedy duo with Gumshoe :/
Wait so... if she only walked his path to gain his approval and love, think about her relationship with Edgeworth, who actually wanted to be a prosecutor. She must have felt even more threatened by him, because he was the only one of von Karma's 'children' that was as driven about prosecuting as he was, albeit in a different way.
@@debastiansebeste Slight problem with that is that Von Karma has another daughter who isn't a prosecutor, so it's obvious he doesn't exactly just forcing his children to become prosecutors as well. In fact I'd say Miles is more to blame than Von Karma. She respected Miles as a brother and when she saw the praise he was getting from Von Karma she probably chose, on her own, that she wanted to become a prosecutor as well.
it would be kind of funny if in a future game you have to go to her apartment and the whole place is full of manga she draws or some interesting hobby.
@@debastiansebestewhat's the soundtrack that's playing when Franziska is talking to Manfred?
Franziska deciding to find closure with her father by having Maya channel him so she can tell him off instead of, like, going to therapy is just about the most Franziska thing she could ever do lol.
Genuinely though this is such a great scene, I love the comedic bookends and how you really delve into Franziska’s character in what, to me, feels like a perfect conclusion to the way her arc went in Investigations 2. Nice work!
Franziska decided to hit the problem at its roots quite literally :p
Glad you liked it 😁
i never actually realized the parallels between franziska and sebastian, guess you learn something new every day
but i can tell you one thing, franziska is the azula and edgeworth is the zuko of ace attorney
Never thought of it that way but I love this parallel. At least Franziska did turn over a new leaf in her life unlike Azula who went down as a baddie :(
@@debastiansebeste I think there is like a storyline where Azula helps find her mother or smth. idk she becomes good after that
@@happydaysforever01
Yeah, that's in one of the comics
She becomes the main villain in that later on though.
@@debastiansebesteGood news, she finally started her redemption arc! It only took 14 years!
THE VAN ZIEKS FAKE OUT!
I WHEEZED THAT WAS PURE GOLD!
I mean, he *is* a legendary prosecutor of the past like Manfred after all 😂
2nd Comment:
I always hated Franziska but after seeing this and knowing how Sebastian was treated, she suffered a lot because of Manfred. In fact, everyone suffered because of HIM.
Having a terrible father can change who you are and make you a monster, I still don't completely like her, but you gave me sympathy points for her seeing as how she suffers (or at least now suffered) in silence.
Good job Debastian. Bravo.
Yeah, Franziska did grow up in a terrible family environment with a terrible person as a father figure and someone to look up to. Good thing she didn't turn into a murderer like him too tbh.
Thanks for the analysis and your kind words mate! 😁
Idk if you've seen the anime but Franziska is a lot softer around the edges and more likeable than in the games. I also didn't like her much in the trilogy.
@@Topaz_Estrella The anime was great in how it showed that whole family. Manfred was depicted in a nuanced fashion, rather than just the unapologetic evil he is in the games.
LET'S GO finally someone acknowledging Manfred's theme from the anime, it suits him perfectly as this menace he is in The Inherited Turnabout and Turnabout Goodbyes
Yeaah when I first heard it I was like "why have I never heard this perfection before??" I knew I had to use it somewhere xD
Shame that his theme wasn't rearrange in the Trilogy style
No one cares about it
If only sone kind of multi-channel midi exist for it...
@@debastiansebeste "Why have I never heard this *perfection* before?"
Well, played, Debastian. Well played. ❤
In a blink-and-you-miss-it moment at 4:02, Maya briefly channels Detective Gumshoe, even though he's still alive.
If you pay closer attention you can hear her quietly screaming "OBJECTION PAL"
@@debastiansebeste Oh shoot, you're right! It's barely audible but I could hear it! Gumshoe is an absolute legend.
Dude! That Barok van Zieks Part caught me off Guard lmao! Great Work! *…It does make wonder how he would Interact with Edgeworth though…*
As of right now I have no idea (I haven't played TGAA yet). But expect to see something after I do xD
@@debastiansebeste I can’t wait!
@@debastiansebeste So have you played it yet?
@@anthonydeadman I've finished TGAA some time now, but I'm currently trying to finish TGAA2. I'm in the mid of case 4 now. It's taking me a long time because of my military service unfortunately
@@debastiansebeste Well first off, I thank you for your service and I wish you the best in getting through it until December. o7
Secondly, I think I've made it a little too obvious that it's only today, I've become a big fan of your work. Been binge watching it non-stop and I'm throughly impressed with how much passion and creativity you put in it while keeping the balance of the lore of the AA world and it's characters intact in the process and all while still in the middle of your military service no less.
That's absolutely impressive and worthy of respect from many.
So from one passionate Ace Attorney fan to another I say, keep up the great work both inside and outside of the community and I look forward to what you have in store going forward given I just subscribed. ^_^
Thank you for giving us proper closure and character development of Franziska in a way that Capcom officially never will.
I genuinely appreciate it.
Glad you do, mate. Thank you 😁
Kay: "So you pretended you'd arrest us, just to scare us and laugh with us? That's a twisted and sadistic sense of humor you have prosecutor!"
Franziska: "...I whip people for fun. this is known!"
also I'm pretty sure, that she'd known about sprit channeling since her first bout with phoenix, given that she presented the photo phoenix's private chat with Mia to the court, and her "glad to see you're in such good "spirits" Ms. Fey" comment
also, Maya accidently summoning Van Zieks made me laugh so Hard.
Franziska finally standing up against mvk with that custom sprite has got me fucked up man...
great content, like always
I am here for Franziska's character development! Honestly, idk why the idea that Franziska is just as much of a victim of Manfred's machinations as Miles was took so long to come to light. She most likely wasn't born so cold and mean, she was made to be like that, her lashing out (literally and metaphorically), were probably the only way she could express herself. Also Manfred's typical narcissistic patterns (deflecting fault, refusing to acknowledge his own mistakes, making anyone the enemy when their tactics dont work, etc. is classic NPD) obviously would have affected Franziska very badly growing up in that. Even his reason for why he was so hard on her is pure selfishness, and he immeditaely dismisses her objections as failures on her part when she won't play his game. Good for her getting closure, now onto therapy with the rest of the cast!
Franziska casually breaking her own black psyche locks of "My dad only used me for his own pursuits" after having a simple heart-to-heart with Manfred
don't use a mental illness as a description for a shitty person. that's a really fucked up thing to do, none of those are traits of npd, they're traits of being a bad person, just because someone's a bad person doesn't mean they're mentally ill
Ngl, I'm in love with your videos. I love how high efforted it is and it especially feels in character. I like Franzy already but this makes me love her more. Ngl I wish she got more screentime and development. I also like how similar Maya and Franz are. They seem like polar opposites but they do share similarities like having f-ed up families, leading a name (Maya being the master and Franz leading the von Karma name). I honestly wish they get more interactions and them being friends.
Anyways, I love your videos, it brings amazing depth into the characters. And van Zieks LITERALLY surprised me. 😁
I agree full about Maya and Franziska and their similarities, and I hate that the two barely even interacted in the main games. Much wasted potential on a possible friendship of the two there :/
Thanks for your kind words! :D
@@debastiansebeste No problem, the vids are awesome. I'd beg for more Maya and Franz interactions
Gosh I love this-- Franziska finally gets to tell off her father for being the sick and obsessed man that he was! (Of course the ending is great too pfpff)
Manfred getting what he actually deserved all along lol
I can imagine a follow up to this video where Franziska tells Phoenix about doing some "redemption".
And yeah, never whip a spirit channels folks!
Yeah the downside is that Maya got whipped for being the medium
The good part is that at least Manfred also felt the whip xD
it would be absolutely amazing if he did a video on franziska giving phoenix the card from jfa (idk if he already made one)
She was forced to start prosecuting when she was 13, another victim of manfred’s vicious scheme’s… I’m glad that corrupted man is dead, he only cares about getting a guilty verdict, not to uncover the truth… all for the sake of perfection. Thank you Miles Edgeworth for saving everyone 15 years later
To be fair, Phoenix and Edgeworth together brought him down
@@debastiansebeste The moment that he began his redemption in the fourth case
You're always on the good things here. However, 3 years after Von Karma's death, I wonder if Maya is still here with Phoenix, as he was normally disbared, and she was in training in Kurain village, or Khur'ain.
Anyway, good work!
Well, Manfred was said to have died some time in prison, between December 2016 and February 2019, so for my headcanon I put his death during 2016 and this vid right before Phoenix's disbarment. (That's why Franziska says "nearly three years", so I could have some vagueness and freedom in his time of death 😉)
God, when she cries... Hits hard man.... Love all you videos! Looking forward to more!
Thanks mate, glad you like them 😁
This Franziska feels so real ....
Franziska Von Karma' did the right thing it's no easy task to stand up to your father but it had to be done I'm proud of her
She took some much needed lessons from Sebastian 💪💪
Imma be honest, my first interaction with the Ace Attorney Universe was Felix White, the most legendary defense attorney of'em all. After, I went straight to the anime and honestly, it wasn't as bad as most ppl say. It further explained some things and answered some questions the games had left unanswered. But that theme... what the hell. I wish they had used a variation of that theme for him in the games, it fits him so well. And about the video itself... Manfred deserved that. Franziska went up a few ranks in my Ace Attorney character tier list because of what she did to her garbage father. This is part of my headcanon fr
Least thing that Manfred deserved. Always glad to help people add stuff to their headcanons 😁
And full agree, Felix White best attorney of all time xD
The anime wasn't as bad? Kill it with fire!!
@@George-iz2ce xD tbh the anime's first season that I've watched had some terribly animated moments and left crucial stuff out that I hated (such as Dee Vazquez's reason for treating Jack Hammer the way she did). I've heard it gets better at season 3 but I haven't got there yet.
Nevertheless, despite the plot and animation issues at least it had amazing voice acting and music
OMG, YES! That was my introduction to Ace Attorney too!
@@debastiansebeste On the plus side, the anime made Turnabout Big Top actually bearable.
The catharsis is fucking real.
Much needed catharsis that I hope we'll eventually see Franziska get in the mainline games too
The Van Zieks fake out, and it gives us a Castlevania joke.
Nicely done.
I have never played Castlevania so I'm glad to hear I accidentally made a Castlevania joke xD
Broo, how to make pair character?
There's a function top left of OL called "Pairs"
i hope you do one when phoenix wright meets his ancestor
I've already thought about that, and I probably will after I've played both TGAAs ;)
I was at the edge of my seat the entire video MAN THIS WAS SO GOOD. it felt like I was watching a full-fledged drama show.
And the ending joke? IT WAS HILARIOUS
Wait, Franziska and Edgeworth have a sister? Why's she never mentioned in the mainline games?
In the first game Von Karma mentions that he has a granddaughter old enough to talk. At the time Franziska was 14, so we can safely assume that Von Karma had an older child other than Franziska. And the fanbase generally prefers to believe that Manfred's older child is a girl :p (in other words, it's game canon that Franziska has an older sibling, but we don't canonically know if they're a brother or a sister)
She got more character development in this fan made video than in any of the games combined 😆
3:54. The father of the year.
wait since when Franziska has a Sister they never showed her at all in ace attorney series or ever mentioned at all or I'd think I missed that part so I'd like to hear about this Cause I tought Franziska is only child to manfred von karma
Manfred had mentioned in PW:AA that in 2016 he had a granddaughter who was 5 yo(?). At the time Franziska was 14-15, so it's generally accepted that Franziska has a much older sibling. And the general consensus among the fanbase is that that sibling is a sister, so I just rolled with it :p
@@debastiansebeste I see altough it would've been awsome if you made a video about a Full Trial of Jeffrey Masters you did made similiar to Aftermaths but I'd curious how the trial would've went Gregory Edgeworth and his assistant Raymond Shields Facing Manfred Von Karma in court now that would be awsome
I’M GONNA BREAK CHARACTER HERE BUT I NEVER EXPECTED TO SEE BAROK OUT OF ALL PEOPLE LOL
What can I say, tbf he *is* a legendary prosecutor of the past like Manfred after all 😂
seeing the bit with Barok, I wonder how an interaction between Kazuma (channeled) and Franziska would be like
the Karuma/(von) Karma name specifically
Lmao Karuma and Kazuma being that similar? You might be onto something here.
But I thought Kazuma is a defense attorney? I haven't played beyond sergeant Nosa's testimony yet so I don't know much details of TGAA
@@debastiansebeste what i actually meant was to have a convo between Franziska and Kazuma Asogi, who mentions he *had* a heirloom katana named Karuma.
Kazuma also mentions how one of his father's subordinates named themself after the sword itself. (its canon)
so that makes Franziska wonder if that could be her ancestor or something
just a thought lol, hope it clears things up
@@aarava1176 wow ok that sword part sounds interesting. I'll definitely look it up after I've played TGAA
@@debastiansebeste oh damn, i didnt realise you havent finished it
good thing i didn't provide any major spoilers
and i highly recommend you play it, its like they used the trilogy formula but evolved it to its finest
@@aarava1176 yeah I've only played up until sergeant Nosa's testimony (stopped because I decided to finish DD and SoJ first). But, even though I've played that little I'm already in love with the game (animations, 3d models, dialogues, everything seems to be perfect :D)
Franziska is DEBEST... oh wait...
The moment the 2009 truth theme played, after the scene switches to Sebastian and goes back to Franziska, WOW... the tears, and the hard facts and surreal dialogue from her...
This is the best I've seen from her in all the games, and probably the most emotionally engaging scene compared to any in them, breaking every barrier.
Best praise I could hope to read, mate. Glad you enjoyed it that much, and thank you for your kind words 😁
In her canon iteration, she kinda (very questionable) reformed to find the “perfect” truth instead of a perfect record. While it is kind of okay for her arc to go that way, and that her whippings are just because she is hot-blooded, this vid is way more satisfying to progress her character arc. In fact, I even pitied Manfred. Because I still hold the belief that nobody would become this obsessed and psychotic at birth. I pitied that he never found the most important things in from of him which is a family. Instead he chased after a concept that is the anti-thesis of being human. Perfection. I pity Manfred for having something so many dream of. And wasted it for a mere undefeated record. As for Franziska, I still hope she will make her future appearances in the franchise with actual character development. Even if her gimmick still had to rely on finding the PERFECT truth.
Eh, it's possible he was born murderous. Psychopathy is a born condition. In rare cases, young children have committed cold-blooded murder. It's entirely possible that three or four year old Manfred was still a vicious psychopath who... I dunno, could have intentionally brutally killed a baby sibling of his in their crib.
But it's also possible that he was just a normal (but probably abused, the entire VK family gives generational trauma vibes and physical abuse of children was very common in the 1950s, I wouldn't be surprised if his father beat the hell out of him daily) little kid before he was twisted into a monster by his relentless pursuit of perfection.
Damn
This was a great vid. I'm glad we got to see Maya and Kay interact too.
A Franziska-oriented vid is awesome too.
Overall, I'd have to give this a yoy/10.
Always yoy-licious to read your comments, mate 💪😁
@@debastiansebeste Yoy
8:06. Now I want a video about that sister.
It would be interesting, but it will probably never come as it would require new from-scratch sprites and I would never settle for the sprites of another character xD
@@debastiansebeste You could use some AAO characters. Oh.....sorry.
Love the use of Manfred's anime theme
THIS is what I had always hoped to see from a situation like this.
5:08 - 5:10
Franziska: Omae wa mou shindeiru
von Karma: Nani?
Iirc I didn't even write that deliberately 😂
I'm confident in saying that every video you've made that isn't a "What If" I personally consider canon.
Comments like these help me to keep going. Thank you, mate 🙏
@@debastiansebeste No, thank you, both for these videos and your service!
Hey wait, so is this actually in one of the games? Even the wrong channeling thing? Or is it just Objection lol?
Lmao no this is all mine, I've made it in objection lol. All of my videos are made in Objection Lol (except the one with Sholmes' Dance of Deduction, that one is partially made in Shotcut)
SPOILER AHEAD FOR THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY AND SPIRIT OF JUSTICE
"You got arrested twice and both times Miles had to save you"
Maya...how many times were YOU arrested and Phoenix saved you?
At least twice .
Your first meeting with him in Turnabout Sisters where you got accused of murdering your sister Mia
Then there was the times in Khura'in when he saved your butt from prison and probably execution
This takes places before Khura'in
Maya's point was that Kay had also been arrested plenty of times, so she didn't have the right to reassure Maya by telling her "don't worry we won't be arrested while I'm here" :p
@@geenkaas6380 fair enough but outside of that he's saved her plenty of times
@@debastiansebeste eh fair enough. Point still stands tho.
Honestly I'd be reassured though. Kay is pretty crafty and clever
Now THIS is what should've been included in Justice for All.
The obsession of perfection is what make Manfred turn into a devil.If it wasn't because of his perfect record, DL-6 Incident would not happened and Mia will be next master Fey clan.
I prefer Trial and Failure instead of perfect with cheating though,as a human,perfection is what im afraid of
That's the thing, Manfred never cared about the truth. The only thing that mattered to him was an eternal and untainted record of victories. Gregory tainted that record with the penalty, and Phoenix ruined it by beating him twice. Because the objectively right thing should always prevail over subjective victory
can you also make a video about Miles and Raymond having discussion with Gregory Edgeworth similiar to like that it would really awsome to see trio bein reunited afterall Miles is the son of Gregory and Raymond is the apprentice and a assistant to Gregory
I can only tell you that I do have such a vid planned for the future - sooner or later ;)
Where did you get those Investigation-style pictures of Maya? And that crying Franziska sprite? Did you make those? They are so good!
Franziska's cry sprite yep, I took Sebastian's tear from his stingy man tear sprite and pasted it on Franziska's angry sprite frames
As for Maya, I took her sprites from Project X Zone 2 and I upscaled them in Waifu2x, then animated them myself (though Maya's cry sprite is also a custom one of mine as it didn't exist in PXZ)
@@debastiansebeste Oh, right! I keep forgetting that Phoenix and Maya were in a fighting game...
@@beterbomen 2 fighting games if you also count Marvel VS Capcom. I only wish we get them into Super Smash Bros too someday xD
Me, who always hated Franziska have never made me emotional than this scene. I felt this!
Such a great conclusion for a further unexplored idea in the series imo
Sebastian I'm just saying where is Maya Fey's code? I haven't seen it in the description
Check the objection lol Discord server
@@debastiansebeste Okie dokie thanks Sebastian :)
Technically it could be less than 2 years, since he died between the beginning of JfA and the end of TaT.
2nd comment: ngl after this one, I can just think of Franziska and Sebastian as the Top Prosecutor Duo of Interpol XD
Well, Sebastian could definitely use some polishing, but having Edgeworth and Franziska (if she goes easy on him) as his mentors would help him in no time :D
@@debastiansebeste in all honesty edgeworth is more of a father figure to him imo. Franziska would be like a big sister to him (or something else maybe?) and just both develop and improve themselves case after case. Btw, Kay x Sebastian or Franziska x Sebastian? be honest pls
@@godzillayaz tbh I don't really ship Sebastian with someone in particular (I'm not much into ships, which you may also notice in my vids xD).
But if I had to choose one of two, then definitely KayxSebastian. I dunno, they're just both kiddy and cute, pretty opposite personalities, and I believe a relationship with Franziska would be quite smothering for Sebastian (plus I prefer her as a big sis to him :p)
@@debastiansebeste ok gotcha thx for honesty :P
Can I just say that I’m happy that Franziska’s sister and her niece was mentioned?
The whole Von Karma family deserved an honourable mention in this family reunion :D
I didn't even know she had a sister, but she does seem like a wine aunt ngl
Imagine how funny itd be if the manfred von karma's sprites were edited to show him with maya's clothes and hair style
Someone has actually made fanart of him wearing pearl's clothes, check "Manfred vs Gregory channeled" on google xD
@@debastiansebeste lmao
Franziska actually needed a moment like this in the original game.
Whoa... He died!? I thought he was just in prison!
Iirc, it's mentioned by Phoenix to Franziska in Justice for All that Manfred died after some time in prison (no details are provided by the game though)
@@debastiansebeste hah! I've beaten the og trilogy a bunch of times and don't remember
@@welon17 found the citation.
(He had a perfect win record for 40 long years... But now, he is gone from this world...) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations. Capcom. Episode: Bridge to the Turnabout (in English). 2007.
Bruhhhhhh she channeled van zieks lmaoooo
Why does the lighting look like a lesbian lbtgq flag
Lmfao guess the red speedlines background turned pinker than expected because of the Overlay layer :p
@@debastiansebeste nah don't worry, not that relavant of a comment
I have no regrets subscribing to this channel.
I'm more than glad you don't 😂
Man, seeing you do these gets me in the mood to start doing some lols again myself. I stopped doing them at some point, mainly because I wasn't a fan of my writing style in the past, and I deleted most of my videos.
But I think I've improved since then, and seeing your videos has really put me in the mood to start doing them again. Thank you very much!
In terms of the video, I feel like you really captured a general idea of getting closure by talking to a terrible parent one last time is like. Good job!
Thanks! And keep rocking them lols if making them makes you feel happy, mate! 😉
Franziska Von Karma: A quite accurate scenario if I ever reunited with my disgrace of a father
ngl,all this time i've been imagining franziska getting instantly disbarred in the first ever time she used her whip against someone in the courtroom in JFA for physical assault
th-cam.com/video/gNAViViaC6M/w-d-xo.html if you wanna see Franziska get put in her place for whipping :p
Trust me, the secret sidelines of Ace Attorney are largely made by you XD
Lmao xD
Thank you for the catharsis of Franzy beating her dad down
I _would_ be down for the character development of her easing up on the whip tho 👀
Wouldn't we all?
Glad you enjoyed it mate! 😁
Holy shit this was amazing.
From Franziska catching them to her tears and her smacking the absolute dog shit out of Manfred (both verbally and physically).
She deserved some proper closure but she disappeared after AAI2 without ever getting one :(
@@debastiansebeste Yeah because the only thing Capcom sees in her is "crazy bitch with a whip".
amazing vid and very emotional
also I can't be the only one that thinks Maya's objection is super annoying.
I kinda find it a bit annoying too, but at the same time I like it. I can't explain this contradiction xD
I died laughing when I saw Barok Von Zeiks
8:50. Wow! You made that pose yourself?
Yep. I stole Sebastian's man tear and put it on Franziska's angry sprite xD
@@debastiansebeste Cool! Will you share the code?
@@5yv5k99 I've written all codes in the vid description ;)
@@debastiansebeste Thanks)
𝘼 𝙣𝙚𝙬 𝙤𝙥𝙥𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙖𝙥𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙖𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙨!
Seriously though , good job. I was waiting for a video regarding the menace himself to appear.
Keep doing what you do best !
To be fair, in both of my vids where Manfred appears (this and the one with his penalty) I have him getting completely owned (by Franziska and Blaise respectively), so you could say I haven't made him live up to his name yet 😂
I sense 𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝗹𝗲𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 demise.
Karma shall strike when they least expect it.
Honestly, I now wonder about the potential what if of "What if Manfred killed Blaise and not Gregory for the penalty?" Though granted, it is probably not too interessting. In a lot of ways, it probably mirrors the "what if he didn't shoot anyone?"-what if without too many extras.(I guess Manfed probably has to be stealthier about his illegal methods tho because he just removed the guy who usually covered for him)
10:28 Franziska:"I only whip my enemies from now on. And you, Kay. You have chosen to become my enemy!"
"Kay, you have chosen to become my enemy"
*whips Edgeworth*
So question concerning spirit channeling in this game:
Both Pearl and maya channeled Mia’s spirit at some point, at which Mia was summoned wearing either pearls or mayas garments.
But when maya summons manfred here (and I know this isn’t possible due to the sprite not existing) wouldn’t he be wearing mayas clothes ?
It’s either one of two things imo:
Maya has upped her channeling skills OR (and this is where it gets hilarious) Manfred would be seen wearing mayas robes.
Use your imagination and you’ll see why this is so funny XDDDDD
Now that you mention this I must tell you xDD
I can't send you a link due to YT's shenanigans, but someone has made a fanart of Gregory Edgeworth and Manfred arguing while both being channeled by Maya and Pearl. Just write "Manfred vs Gregory Channeled" on google and it's the first image xDD
sorry to be nit picky, but at 6:30 Manfred's name goes to Franziska for a sec 😅
I had already noticed the mistake some 8-9 months ago, but good catch xD
The fact that these 2 are father and daughter and they almost never interacted is a crime.
Yeah. Unfortunately when the writers came up with Franziska, Manfred was already in prison, which made an interaction difficult :(
Wait, but Manfred is in prison...
Manfred died in prison, canonically. Phoenix says so in Justice for All in one of his inner thoughts.
...
Brilliant.
Franziska whipping Manfred: *For The Motherfucking Win*
where are those maya sprites from??? ive never seen them before
From Project X Zone 2, upscaled and animated by me
10:12 this part got me choking in laughter.
NAHH NOT THE VAN ZIEKS LMAO
YES THE VAN ZIEKS 😂
Nice one man, keep those high quality videos going!
I love how the fandom just assumes Mafred is dead and not just rotting away in a jailhouse instead
@@Lucario1121 the fandom assumes nothing. Phoenix straight up says that Manfred died in prison in JfA (or T&T not sure which of the two)
@@debastiansebeste Oh he did?! I, must of missed that what did he say? :0
@@Lucario1121 I don't remember exactly, but it is the reason Manfred's wiki says that he died some time between 2016 and 2019 (or something, my memory is kinda foggy rn xD)
@@debastiansebeste Oh wait I think I remember, there was a scene midway through Turnabout Bigtop that Phoenix confronts Franzika saying how what she's doing isn't going to bring her dad back, the scene where we found out that her true intention was just to one up Miles. I don't think Phoenix upfront said that Manfred died but that's probably, the closest we got to Phoenix saying as much
I do have an issue with this video, namely that it’s based on assumption that Manfred was an abusive father to Franziska, even though it's never explicitly stated in the games (and in the anime adaptation even contradicted in one episode).
More about that in this video by Wendy Rocket:
th-cam.com/video/QNfnWZ_-yjY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DnEpa9fXXOy3l-M-
Makes me sad that this is what you got from the video, that I imply that Manfred was abusive to Franziska, because there's not a single intention of that. The way it's built, I hoped the video (especially with Franziska's last speech) makes it clear that Franziska has no issues about any "abuse" from Manfred towards her, but for 1) his actions towards others (like the Edgeworths), and 2) for making her live her life under the delusion of the "Von Karma perfection", when Manfred himself was the lowest of lows
After all, when confronted by Franziska, Manfred demands the respect he expects from his daughter (since she starts by acting hostile to him), and afterwards speaks to her with logical arguments. I thought that, at least, is clear in the video, that their relationship was not one of abuse (physical or mental), except Manfred pushing his impossible expectations on Franziska
@@debastiansebeste I'm sorry if my comment upset you. I think I should have explained my point better.
The impression I got that you implied that Manfred was an abusive father came from how many people in the AA fandom seem to think Manfred was a bad father to both Miles and Franziska, as well as a few other things:
1) how they interacted in this video vs how I interpreted their relationship from the games, since in the games it seemed to me that Franziska still loved her father, or at the very least respected him, even after everything he did (like when Franziska called his father a genius in the ending of JFA) and vice versa. While here they verbally (or, in Franziska's case at the end, physically) assault each other. At least, that is the impression I got (thought the fact that many people in AA fandom, including some people in your comment section, call Manfred a groomer and a psychopath, didn’t help either).
2) I always imagined that Franziska (and maybe even Miles) chose to strife for perfection not because Manfred pushed impossible expectations on them, but because they respected him and his intellect, unaware of how depraved he truly is. This is especially apparent in the anime adaptation, in the episode Turnabout Melodies, where Manfred is shown to be a good father to both of his protégés. (And yes, I know the anime is mostly non-canon, but still)
3) I always imagined this interaction to be different and less hostile, namely I imagined that Manfred would admit, albeit begrudgingly, that he was wrong. Not for falsifying evidence, threatening witnesses/defendants or anything like that, but for letting his anger on Edgeworts get the better of him. And he would ask Franziska not to repeat his mistakes. While this video (again, no offense) seemed to me like the repeat of Sebastian's (or, Eustace, as he's now called in the official localization) character arc, where Blaise actually was a shitty father.
Again, I deeply apologize if I made you upset, because I can imagine that you put a lot of effort into you videos, and I recommend you to watch Wendy's video about Mafred.
@@mrakimov3458 Explain why he instigated Yogi to off Hammond, framed Edgeworth, attacked Phoenix and Maya and stole the evidence.
@@axboltx I never said he was the good guy.
Man, this was so well-written!
It's like the completion of Franziska's...
Well, not exactly redemption arc, but this was still really good!
Think maybe you could cover how Aura Blackquill's trial went? All we know is that she's in prison, her brother was looking for someone to defend her (there's no way The Wright Agency would after what she did), and no one mentioned her again.
Tbh I'm not really interested in the Blackquills (hence why you barely see even Simon in my vids), so I honestly can't promise anything about Aura :p
bruh the ending gets me every time
Flashback to manfred von karma training polly the parrot not to say anything about DL-6 when
Lmfao I forgot about that
This has to be canon. IT HAS TO BE!
It is to me xD
@@debastiansebeste Same here! It was very well done. It was still funny yet so touching and damn satisfying when Franziska whiped her jerk father.
@@Going.Creative._mode glad you enjoyed it 😁
Watching this reminded me of a picture of Maya channeling Gregory while Pearl channelled Von Karma. Extremely cursed.
Ugh I've seen it and while I was writing this vid I was constantly thinking "Don't forget that Manfred is wearing Maya's clothes throughout this whole vid" xD
Since when did franziska have a sister..?
She does have an older sibling for certain. Otherwise, we'll have to believe that Franziska became a mother at an age younger than 16 (because where did Manfred get a granddaughter otherwise?)
Whether it's a sister or a brother we don't know
@@debastiansebeste ah, i was gonna ask for spoilers on the sibling lore, nvm, also when did Manfred mention having a granddaughter?
@@sahanboydl some time during the trials, I think when he said that his granddaughter had a dog they'd named Phoenix just to mock Phoenix
@@debastiansebeste Ah i see! And this was during AA1?
@@sahanboydl yeah
Brilliant Work!
😁
Maya has a point, the Kurain Village has a Bad Reputation because "the Mystic Maya" has Arrested 2 Times 3, in SoJ.
Don't forget she has also been kidnapped twice to blackmail Phoenix into doing as told
@@debastiansebeste good the Godless of mischiefs has a Acolyte.
The sprites are so clean and clear. Where did you get them?
Untitled Courtroom discord server, also all character codes are in my vid's description
I loved seeing this side of Franziska
Something teased, but was never capitalized on
Takumi truly blew that one by sidelining Franziska, she had too much potential to spend the whole trilogy and Edgeworth duology entirely as the slapstick comedy medium
@@debastiansebeste Main series I kind of get, you don't want to have the same antagonist again and again for a game like Ace Attorney
But there's no excuse for the Investigation games to skip on her like that
Now this is Great Storytelling right here I always felt bad for Franziska she's quite the Beauty in Vain sadly I just want her to be actually happy its a darn shame Angry is her default emotion her father was quite the prideful groomer I must say and a disgrace to his parental title. Not to mention This Video is a Fantastic Catharsis as well for her character!
True, the only time we've seen Franziska's face in other than 😡 mode was when she broke and cried in front of Edgeworth, kinda pity.
I still believe she always deserved a proper closure, so I'm glad you enjoyed my take on it :D
@@debastiansebesteOh most Definitely! both Franziska and Edgeworth have big unnecessary burdens put on them due to the Groomer that is Manfred: The Self-Obsessed Perfectionist but they are growing out of that thanks to Phoenix and in this great case Maya (not so much Apollo nor Athena though iirc sadly) Although i do wonder about Manfred's history of how he became such a corrupt husk of a man and how did he become a father in the first place? A lot to unpack there I tell ya and how far down in the family tree was like him in the first place
This video won me over, I'm subscribed now. 😊
Thankss hope you enjoy your stay 🙏
The end 😂😭
I dont know why by simple watching this it sorta cure for me.
As much as it was cure for Franziska herself 😁
@@debastiansebeste True
5:21. Can I have the link for this soundtrack? Please?😭
It's called The Invincible Manfred Von Karma, from the anime. You can find it here: th-cam.com/video/u7EDuM0UipY/w-d-xo.html
@@debastiansebeste Thanks)
@@5yv5k99 sure
4:56 music?
The Invincible Manfred Von Karma, from the anime
Now I wish someone did this with Miles and Gregory.
It's in my "to-do" list, that's for sure 😉
@@debastiansebeste sick.
I wanted to see how Miles and Gregory will react and unteract with each other for a while after dl-6, pretty much since I finished the first game I wanted to see that.
I would have made one myself but I'm not good enough at writing for that at all.
@@idoshanintendo don't let anything like that drag you down. Simply write the interaction in a way that 1) would make you happy, and 2) fits the characters. And 3) most of all, have fun while making it 😉
@@debastiansebeste Thanks, I just don't have any good ideas, or time right now, being stuck in the military means I barely have time for anything.
@@idoshanintendo oof. Compulsory military service?
7:42. Why does everyone think that she has a sister? I mean, I read on wiki. It simply says unnamed child. It could be a male.
Tbh, the general consensus of the fanbase is a sister, so I decided to simply roll with it 🤷🏻♂️
@@debastiansebeste Yeah, in my universe Franziska is Manfred's only child. And Manfred's daughter has a huge dog (like Anubis) which she too calls 'Phoenix'.
@@5yv5k99 I mean, that's what I also thought (Franziska an only child and the dog being hers) but the years didn't add up with the fact that Manfred had a grandkid when Franziska was still 15-16, so I had to change stuff xD
@@debastiansebeste Yeah. The same.
I forgot to say, Franziska is 26 years old there (in my universe) and her daughter is 5 years old.
I do like actually acknowledging that Manfred has a second daughter, because of how something derived from a joke could lead to a lot of speculation. Like their relationships with Franziska or Edgeworth