It makes even LESS sense if you think about Until Dawn’s main appeal when it first debuted: the whole dynamic of playing a story where your character could die and the story would CONTINUE WITHOUT THEM. Yes, games had done this, but with titles like Heavy Rain in that same era, Until Dawn was almost one of the pioneers in this in its own way. To completely minimize that with making it a story where characters die then come back anyway hurts me even worse somehow.
Someone already said this somewhere, this isn’t Until Dawn, it’s basically a game for a Dark Pictures Anthology game that doesn’t exist and I also say that the mechanic of the movie is basically The Quarry’s Death Rewind feature.
I feel like it would make more sense if they said they were inspired by the dark pictures instead of until dawn. Especially if they really are changing the type of horror genre in every loop
It's a shame they didn't ask the original cast (other than Peter Stormae) to come back. Hayden Penettiere (Sam) literally said in an interview she would have loved to be asked but they just didn't sadly.
For me, Until Dawn means 3 things 1) Snow-capped mountains setting, which for some reason is rarely used in horror movies. 2) The mechanic of which the death of a character is possible at any moment and irreversible - the plot will continue without them. 3) O Death in the intro
If it was advertised as it own movie set in the Until Dawn universe with a different name than I think people would be more excited about it also there are 5 protagonists like in the dark pictures games I think that’s just a coincidence but the movie does look interesting
"What is the movie, exactly?" Something that clearly had nothing to do with Until Dawn at first until Sony realized they could profit off it by naming it after a _very_ popular video game.
if i showed the trailer (or teaser, whatever) to an until dawn fan, but i wouldn't tell them the name, i don't think they would know it's until dawn. even me, someone who just watched gameplays of this game on youtube, thought it didn't look like the game AT ALL. poor fans. now i'm even more scared what are they going to do with the outlast movie. i hope they won't f up like with this... thing.
So, I know there’s a lot of discourse of this movie saying “it’s not like the game”, which I thought AT FIRST, but now thinking it through, I actually do think it’s faithful when you look into the details, and I’ll give you two reasons why: 1. First off, in the original game’s mechanics, they use “the butterfly effect” where it’s up to the player to choose which is the right decisions to keep the characters alive at the end of the game until dawn (pun-intended), while in the film they do faithfully adapt that concept in a time loop, where now the characters know they’re in this time loop everytime they die and (to an extend) know what they’re getting into, it’s up to the characters to make the right choices to survive the time loop until dawn (pun-intended again), just like in the game. So in a way, not only that it’s faithful to the “butterfly effect” mechanic, the time loop is also an expansion of the original game’s mythology (which they also revealed that this movie takes place in the same universe as the game). 2. People have pointed out of being upset at the film being “a killer in a mask is killing these people”, but that’s what it was originally marketed in the original game as that’s what the original premise at first glance, because the marketing for the game never revealed any wendigos, purposely telling the audience that it was just gonna be a slasher game, than half way through, it changes genres from slasher to creature feature when the wendigos do show up, so when the filmmakers are telling us that, when the characters do relive the time loop, they are transported into a different genre of horror, so they might start off as slasher and survive a killer in a mask, but then the new threat comes along from the different time loops like the supernatural genres and survive from ghosts, in the zombie and survive from zombies or maybe even just like the original game, wendigos. So in way, the fact that it switches genres on you in the movie, is like how they did it in the game. Now, I know it might be a bit of a stretch for people who were turned off by the idea of what this new Until Dawn movie, but I wanna address to my thoughts on why they are faithfully adapting the original games mechanics while putting it in a different setting. So, I hope that people understand where I’m coming from.
Nobody wants a time loop movie about the butterfly effect. We care about the characters, setting and story, the butterfly effect is a GAMEPLAY mechanic and should stay a gameplay mechanic.
There's really four genres in the original. Chris and Ashley are in a spooky mystery, which turns into a saw movie. Sam is in a slasher film, and then the whole thing turns into a creature feature. Who would have guessed they'd have gone all DBD with it?
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt when we started and was thinking it was either a prequel (the inpatient but not trapped in a room when everything goes down) or a sequel (these kids came off the mountain a year after 2 other kids went missing with wild stories and the whole house burned down, along with a minimum of 1 other kid going missing this time. someone's gotta investigate that whether they believe the kids or not) and the longer this break down went on the more disappointed I got.
Nah, this is a terrible adaptation of Until Dawn. Completely different characters. Different setting. They added time loop death mechanics, which don't belong. They only stole the name. It's a completely different story.
ngl I kinda hate that the standard reference point for timeloop movies is Happy Death Day now. Run Lola Run and The Deaths of Ian Stone are way better.
k, this might be a controversial viewpoint, but... I actually don't mind the idea of a video game adaptation telling its own story. I think video games are better suited to episodic miniseries, personally - they're more similar to how games are paced, and can go into more detail rather than less. Movies just aren't paced the way that games are, and if their stories are going to be cut down drastically for length... maybe it's better to just have a different story? I can really understand this when it comes to Until Dawn, where the experience of playing the game is enough like watching a movie that you effectively already *have* an Until Dawn movie. Oh, and you wouldn't have the same cast, obviously, as they're all heading into their 40s now. So that's another downside. I dunno, I'll give this the benefit of a doubt, as it sounds like what I *wish* they'd done with the Silent Hill movies instead of... what they did.
It seems very obvious that they are trying to expand the view of what Until Dawn is. They want to create many pieces of media with the same DNA and make it more than just the first game. Making the original story of Until Dawn into a movie would be a waste of time since it basically already is a movie but better. Removing the interactive elements would just be a downgrade.
This teaser is...not it. I was really hoping they would adapt the general story of the game, then distribute multiple endings among theaters the way Clue did back in the day. Everyone would get different death sequences and experiences the same way they did with playing the game. But nope, we get this mediocre generic time loop slop with a bunch of cheap Easter eggs. Oh well.
Honestly, getting four different cuts of the movies that were shown at theaters as Version A, B, C, and D would've been awesome. Such a missed opportunity.
@@HOGuruI agree! It just seems like a missed opportunity to me. If you've ever heard of a game called Late Shift, that game started as an interactive movie in cinemas in London, where audience members would pick options on their keypads to choose where the film would go, and how it would end. It would have been perfect if they did that for this too, and for cinemas that couldn't implement that technology, it could be like Clue, which just shows the different endings. Losing the interactive elements immediately puts it on the back foot. Of course that's not to say it would make the experience any better; the biggest concern is feeling that it is just an Until Dawn movie in name only. If they have to stick to the death loop idea, they may as well go all out, and include body swapping every time they come back, or even have them wake up in new bodies every time, seemingly never to return to their originals as an added twist (but of course that would require a lot of actors to do lol 🤣). I'm just spitballing; I'll still give it a chance, and hopefully it's better than we think, but having reservations is more than understandable 💯
I count this as a joke there's nothing about the until dawn and It doesn't even a trailer ıt just a first look they bring the dr hill but in the game dr hill isnt even a real person it just a josh's imaginary person ı hope these guys put some real thing in the trailer I dissapointed enough
Was excited to show my horror loving friends this movie that aren't so big on video games. Guess I'll show them a full playthrough like a series instead. Angers me when people like this ruin Licenses like this. Like the Resident Evil movies🤢🤮
I hate this so F in much I'm not watching it cus I know my self well enough to know I wont warm up to it I will be mad the entire time watching it If they wanted to show different deaths use the totems to give them visions like Final Destination instead of a stupid time loop and instead of doing different monsters every loop
I had the same assumption about the lack of ties to the game, though I’m more neutral on my expectations. You mentioned there’s already a good movie they have, what is it exactly we’re you referring to? If it’s the game itself, I don’t think it would have be a good idea, I think it would have been the worst option they could have picked and thank god they didn’t. Anyways, we’ll just have to wait and see, so let’s all be patient and don’t become too obsessed about this.
Its Until dawn in NAME ONLY. This is just gonna be Happy Death Day without the self aware humor.
Until time fell like a better title
It makes even LESS sense if you think about Until Dawn’s main appeal when it first debuted: the whole dynamic of playing a story where your character could die and the story would CONTINUE WITHOUT THEM. Yes, games had done this, but with titles like Heavy Rain in that same era, Until Dawn was almost one of the pioneers in this in its own way. To completely minimize that with making it a story where characters die then come back anyway hurts me even worse somehow.
I love decision based games where it's possible to botch the entire story by getting everyone killed.
SMG is the peak of this - they handle killing off characters much more smoothly than Quantic Dream does.
Someone already said this somewhere, this isn’t Until Dawn, it’s basically a game for a Dark Pictures Anthology game that doesn’t exist and I also say that the mechanic of the movie is basically The Quarry’s Death Rewind feature.
I feel like it would make more sense if they said they were inspired by the dark pictures instead of until dawn. Especially if they really are changing the type of horror genre in every loop
Yeah, that seems like more fertile ground for inspiration.
It's a shame they didn't ask the original cast (other than Peter Stormae) to come back. Hayden Penettiere (Sam) literally said in an interview she would have loved to be asked but they just didn't sadly.
Have you seen her lately? She’s kinda messed up.
For me, Until Dawn means 3 things
1) Snow-capped mountains setting, which for some reason is rarely used in horror movies.
2) The mechanic of which the death of a character is possible at any moment and irreversible - the plot will continue without them.
3) O Death in the intro
If it was advertised as it own movie set in the Until Dawn universe with a different name than I think people would be more excited about it also there are 5 protagonists like in the dark pictures games I think that’s just a coincidence but the movie does look interesting
It's Hill's brother - Dr. Bill
"What is the movie, exactly?" Something that clearly had nothing to do with Until Dawn at first until Sony realized they could profit off it by naming it after a _very_ popular video game.
It's probably another run-of-the-mill groundhogs day.
This is basically trying to turn Until Dawn into Scary Stories to Tell in The Dark or Cabin in The Woods.
Certainly looks that way!
This is just feel a different movie just using Until Dawn Game name
I was excited about the prospect of an Until Dawn movie but this is.... not it.
DBD by way of Cabin in the Woods?
if i showed the trailer (or teaser, whatever) to an until dawn fan, but i wouldn't tell them the name, i don't think they would know it's until dawn. even me, someone who just watched gameplays of this game on youtube, thought it didn't look like the game AT ALL. poor fans.
now i'm even more scared what are they going to do with the outlast movie. i hope they won't f up like with this... thing.
Wish they'd go full found-footage with Outlast, seems like the game deserves that.
I was pumped for this movie...AND now I'm not.
So, I know there’s a lot of discourse of this movie saying “it’s not like the game”, which I thought AT FIRST, but now thinking it through, I actually do think it’s faithful when you look into the details, and I’ll give you two reasons why:
1. First off, in the original game’s mechanics, they use “the butterfly effect” where it’s up to the player to choose which is the right decisions to keep the characters alive at the end of the game until dawn (pun-intended), while in the film they do faithfully adapt that concept in a time loop, where now the characters know they’re in this time loop everytime they die and (to an extend) know what they’re getting into, it’s up to the characters to make the right choices to survive the time loop until dawn (pun-intended again), just like in the game. So in a way, not only that it’s faithful to the “butterfly effect” mechanic, the time loop is also an expansion of the original game’s mythology (which they also revealed that this movie takes place in the same universe as the game).
2. People have pointed out of being upset at the film being “a killer in a mask is killing these people”, but that’s what it was originally marketed in the original game as that’s what the original premise at first glance, because the marketing for the game never revealed any wendigos, purposely telling the audience that it was just gonna be a slasher game, than half way through, it changes genres from slasher to creature feature when the wendigos do show up, so when the filmmakers are telling us that, when the characters do relive the time loop, they are transported into a different genre of horror, so they might start off as slasher and survive a killer in a mask, but then the new threat comes along from the different time loops like the supernatural genres and survive from ghosts, in the zombie and survive from zombies or maybe even just like the original game, wendigos. So in way, the fact that it switches genres on you in the movie, is like how they did it in the game.
Now, I know it might be a bit of a stretch for people who were turned off by the idea of what this new Until Dawn movie, but I wanna address to my thoughts on why they are faithfully adapting the original games mechanics while putting it in a different setting. So, I hope that people understand where I’m coming from.
Nobody wants a time loop movie about the butterfly effect. We care about the characters, setting and story, the butterfly effect is a GAMEPLAY mechanic and should stay a gameplay mechanic.
There's really four genres in the original. Chris and Ashley are in a spooky mystery, which turns into a saw movie. Sam is in a slasher film, and then the whole thing turns into a creature feature.
Who would have guessed they'd have gone all DBD with it?
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt when we started and was thinking it was either a prequel (the inpatient but not trapped in a room when everything goes down) or a sequel (these kids came off the mountain a year after 2 other kids went missing with wild stories and the whole house burned down, along with a minimum of 1 other kid going missing this time. someone's gotta investigate that whether they believe the kids or not) and the longer this break down went on the more disappointed I got.
It's gonna blow up harder than the Washington lodge! XD
Bro Sony they did it and it’s look good so calm down🔥🔥💯💯
Nah, this is a terrible adaptation of Until Dawn. Completely different characters. Different setting. They added time loop death mechanics, which don't belong. They only stole the name. It's a completely different story.
@ video game movies don’t follow the game story if you know💯💯
@@LarryHayward-v7p This is completely different.
@ okay that’s good and I don’t care you don’t watch it the movie in cinema
@@LarryHayward-v7p Okay, and I don't care that you have no standards for adaptation and storytelling.
I think someone should make all of the games like until dawn the quarry and dark pictures anthology into a movie
There’s no snow; the vibes are already wrong. That said, I will strive to appreciate it as an independent piece
ngl I kinda hate that the standard reference point for timeloop movies is Happy Death Day now. Run Lola Run and The Deaths of Ian Stone are way better.
Triangle is also a fantastic one
Inspired by the mention in this video, I ended up watching Mine Games. Turns out that, yes, Mine Games is a *bad* example of the genre.
To make up for this, I’m just going to rewatch the cutscenes/ movie of the game again lol👌🤷🏻♀️
Nah i can’t let you dump on the conjuring movies the first two were elite
k, this might be a controversial viewpoint, but... I actually don't mind the idea of a video game adaptation telling its own story.
I think video games are better suited to episodic miniseries, personally - they're more similar to how games are paced, and can go into more detail rather than less. Movies just aren't paced the way that games are, and if their stories are going to be cut down drastically for length... maybe it's better to just have a different story?
I can really understand this when it comes to Until Dawn, where the experience of playing the game is enough like watching a movie that you effectively already *have* an Until Dawn movie. Oh, and you wouldn't have the same cast, obviously, as they're all heading into their 40s now. So that's another downside.
I dunno, I'll give this the benefit of a doubt, as it sounds like what I *wish* they'd done with the Silent Hill movies instead of... what they did.
Official trailer OUT!!!
So fast!
clicked on this video just to make a john abruzzi joke
I always forget he was on Prison Break.
It seems very obvious that they are trying to expand the view of what Until Dawn is. They want to create many pieces of media with the same DNA and make it more than just the first game. Making the original story of Until Dawn into a movie would be a waste of time since it basically already is a movie but better. Removing the interactive elements would just be a downgrade.
The problem being, other than the presence of a Wendigo, I don't see any UD DNA in this.
bruh this stinks! This killed me...
This teaser is...not it. I was really hoping they would adapt the general story of the game, then distribute multiple endings among theaters the way Clue did back in the day. Everyone would get different death sequences and experiences the same way they did with playing the game. But nope, we get this mediocre generic time loop slop with a bunch of cheap Easter eggs. Oh well.
Honestly, getting four different cuts of the movies that were shown at theaters as Version A, B, C, and D would've been awesome. Such a missed opportunity.
Another Clue would have been such a delight...
@@HOGuruI agree! It just seems like a missed opportunity to me. If you've ever heard of a game called Late Shift, that game started as an interactive movie in cinemas in London, where audience members would pick options on their keypads to choose where the film would go, and how it would end. It would have been perfect if they did that for this too, and for cinemas that couldn't implement that technology, it could be like Clue, which just shows the different endings. Losing the interactive elements immediately puts it on the back foot. Of course that's not to say it would make the experience any better; the biggest concern is feeling that it is just an Until Dawn movie in name only.
If they have to stick to the death loop idea, they may as well go all out, and include body swapping every time they come back, or even have them wake up in new bodies every time, seemingly never to return to their originals as an added twist (but of course that would require a lot of actors to do lol 🤣). I'm just spitballing; I'll still give it a chance, and hopefully it's better than we think, but having reservations is more than understandable 💯
It gives me cheap pg 13 horror movie x cabin in the woods vibes. I dont like it
We'll see how gory it winds up being.
I count this as a joke there's nothing about the until dawn and It doesn't even a trailer ıt just a first look they bring the dr hill but in the game dr hill isnt even a real person it just a josh's imaginary person ı hope these guys put some real thing in the trailer I dissapointed enough
Was excited to show my horror loving friends this movie that aren't so big on video games. Guess I'll show them a full playthrough like a series instead.
Angers me when people like this ruin Licenses like this. Like the Resident Evil movies🤢🤮
At least there's some wendigoes in there?
Look like dead by day light what a rip off
I hate this so F in much I'm not watching it cus I know my self well enough to know I wont warm up to it I will be mad the entire time watching it
If they wanted to show different deaths use the totems to give them visions like Final Destination instead of a stupid time loop and instead of doing different monsters every loop
Totems would be an interesting turn in a story like this.
I had the same assumption about the lack of ties to the game, though I’m more neutral on my expectations.
You mentioned there’s already a good movie they have, what is it exactly we’re you referring to? If it’s the game itself, I don’t think it would have be a good idea, I think it would have been the worst option they could have picked and thank god they didn’t.
Anyways, we’ll just have to wait and see, so let’s all be patient and don’t become too obsessed about this.
I was excited to see the trailer until I got halfway through it. Looks like a trash movie. Couldn't even tell you which character is who.
Oof.