Shields are Better than Heals | Solve Your Sustain Problem

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  • @saintontas
    @saintontas  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    What are you looking for in a new shielder in WuWa?
    I'd love a new 5* shielder who can give similar buffs to Verina or Baizhi with a shield and off-field damage that scales off HP.
    I'm thinking Yuanwu SuperMAX.
    Check out my Jianxin Guide: th-cam.com/video/TzVo2zYf5FA/w-d-xo.html
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    • @mtrk8134
      @mtrk8134 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      they still need to add echo sets that buff teammates when gaining shield if they want to make shielders better than healers

  • @kyori75
    @kyori75 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I think the main reason why shielders is not as popular because (to most players) shielders need time if not a long time to get their shield up, and if they get a heavy hit during that time, the shield is gone and have to start from 0 again. The arguement of knowing when to setup shield or enemy movement(tricky if many enemy mobs present) is not so valid because if every players know those well, they can surely just use 1 character solo all the way.
    So yes, be it using a healer or a shielder, knowing the game better definitely helps more than just siding with one or the other.

  • @nir4531
    @nir4531 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    2:19 LMAO that kakarot's clone t-posing

    • @phambao6901
      @phambao6901 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      the most dominant stance

  • @sleipnir_8364
    @sleipnir_8364 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +117

    You dont need healing if you dont get hit.

    • @BladeSerph
      @BladeSerph 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Sadly characters like calcharo and yinlang have to commit hard to attacking or they lose damage flow with the latter feeling it bad while the former got hit bad on post beta, even if yinlin is severely useful to make up for some of the problem.

    • @prashantKumar-te9ce
      @prashantKumar-te9ce 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I always get hit. Esp with jinxi, I just spam skill

    • @gintobitim1611
      @gintobitim1611 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Most gacha players have skill issues haha

    • @TheSirVivor
      @TheSirVivor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dont forget the healing set have atk up effect so no matter how you need it or not then you gotta consider that buff.

    • @ngasalaja2839
      @ngasalaja2839 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well you don't need a shielder either if that's the case

  • @kieferkippy
    @kieferkippy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    Calcharo's anti-dodging kit benefit hard with a shield allowing him to face tank and not lose a lot of dps trying to dodge or quick swap.

    • @rinzu3188
      @rinzu3188 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      his lvl 70 talent also makes sense if you run him with a shielder. it's annoying how a lot of cc's don't recommended upgrading it and calls you that you have skill issue while all of them plays on their pc and doesn't even bother sympathize with people that plays on their phone. while they themselves also sucks at dodging even playing on pc. lol

    • @kieferkippy
      @kieferkippy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@rinzu3188 the funny thing is they keep insisting on quick swapping when the game literally punish you by removing concerto buffs for quick swapping.

  • @ShenCobra
    @ShenCobra 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Glad people waking up to the greatness that is jianxin

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      only for skill issued noobs, gamer gods like me know her only worth is some small grouping that becomes worthless the moment you get either jiyan or jinhsi and thats shes, b tier at best regardless

    • @BladeSerph
      @BladeSerph 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzzgrouping enemies is still good to save time and unlike yangyang, she has a faster flow in and a dmg buff perfect for plenty of main dps options including f welfare picks.
      Though if Yang Yang got two bars on entry and if you have her at max waveband she would make a fantastic budget betweeen faster flip in and out, energy battery and a general dmg buff.
      RIP that also is utterly fked by a lack of good rotation to get thru his energy since he often fks up his E skill to basic rotation for full gauge and can fk up on going into mist form if your not perfectly lined up.
      Plus unlike many good welfare sub dps his last waveband ain’t a team buff but a useless dmg buff to only himself where his kit implied to use him as a sub dps but lacks the damn coordinated attacks to use him as well as morfeti.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BladeSerph whos waveband u even talking about

    • @BladeSerph
      @BladeSerph 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz Aalto’s one of the few 4 star units to have a non support max waveband.
      Yangyang, chixia and sanhua and morfeti and baizhi and Danjin all provide welfare buffs to the team.
      Though taoqi also doesn’t give a team support waveband, she gets a nice outro skill and scaling off defense gives her some fantastic quirks, on top of her resonance skill being a party share’able damage reduction benefit.
      Oh and yuanwu exists, but if the 5 star electro gauntlet coming up is actually being given away for free in 1.2, then he might be getting benched even by those who dedicated to using the dandy man gym owner possibly.

    • @volatileM.
      @volatileM. 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzsheeesh bro is the gamer god🥶🥶🥶🥶 my lord 🔥🔥

  • @kanyaerikombo5807
    @kanyaerikombo5807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    jianxin with gong feels so good. Tank through everything and you get a nice shield after. Plus the parry is so useful lol.

    • @saintontas
      @saintontas  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Her Forte Bar + Bell Turtle giving 100% DR feels like a cheat code.

    • @BladeSerph
      @BladeSerph 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Guess we can be glad double up resource and simulated training starts ‘tonight’.
      I’m having to ditch Aalto for morfeti finally despite getting so many dupes on the former that I may also have to acquire jianxin build up next so calcharo will have jianxin and yinlin to provide both dmg buff and sustain with dmg buff options.
      Guess we can be glad 1.2 doesn’t have any supports and despite the glacio sub dps is suppose to be good with jinshi it means little if you didn’t manage to get her or even have a ‘good’ glacio dps yet since sanhua may be good but can’t be a perfect lynch pin main dps.

    • @kimquang2572
      @kimquang2572 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Xiangli yao + yanxin + motife

  • @ersche
    @ersche 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The real problem is people usually based their perspective off of tier lists to the point they don't enjoy the game because they don't have the so called meta characters from the tier lists.

    • @KABLAMMATS
      @KABLAMMATS 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro every character is meta in wuwa.
      Even the starting team is broken 😂

    • @justinrazon7200
      @justinrazon7200 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KABLAMMATS *cough* Lion boy *cough*

    • @SinisterSaintsExcellion
      @SinisterSaintsExcellion 18 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@justinrazon7200 I guess you haven't seen the video about that guy clearing toa with lingyang

  • @progrockplaylists
    @progrockplaylists 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    3:30 1. that is an unlikely optimal scenario
    2. not only the shield wouldnt last but i cant even proc it. i am attacked by the time the long animation finishes
    if you are at low hp. you can completely heal up, with a shielder youll are constantly at low hp

  • @milfueillefirdaus2030
    @milfueillefirdaus2030 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Problem with jianxin and taoqi is that they require a lot more field time than a simple healer like verina. And taoqi concerto generation is just really slow. Probably she will be better at higher level.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      higher levels wont change her ass concerto generetion, shes gonna stay trash till the ends of time

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      Please... game is NOT about repeating rotations calculated by Excel Impact players who call themselves theorycrafters. Look how characters work in practice. It doesn't matter that they take more time on-field, when during that time they can be more helpful with parrying or crowd control. As for the last - not only Jianxin, Taoqi can fairly easily push and stagger whole group of enemies. They can also dish out not little damage. They just need more investment for it, especially Taoqi - she very much needs high character level, when players will be reaching max levels then Taoqi's value will rise much, she is a late bloomer.

    • @sotruwu
      @sotruwu 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@MarionFR nah bro taoqi is just ass

    • @haruusami1831
      @haruusami1831 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Adding on MarionFR comment about spreadsheet, spreadsheet are only good if a game mode etc requires you a DMG/Stats check and you don't have alot of resourrces to level up all char. the same.
      For example i like playing Jinhsi with Yuanwu and Yangyang (both S6 not level 80) because i want to onfield Jinhsi more, this team is basically QTE composition. half of the time Yangyang is onfield to trigger concerto for Jinhsi repeat till she has full forte, its actually fun to simply press the Skill after Intro instant combo, Yuanwu just putting down lightning rod,and triggering heal for bellborne buff,shield but this composition barely clears the last spectro tower (in 3min mark) so i needed to play Taoqi for that Resonance Skill buff.
      In short all im saying is you can take advantage of some char. good intro/outro buff (especially if you got some 4 star that is S6) adding you can build the char with right echo or weapon, ex. if you plan Taoqi to be just a support buffer for that good Resonance Skill buff doesn't matter if she requires more onfield as the trade is good for other char. that has nuke skills ex. Jinhsi, then build Taoqi with Concerto regen.
      Put 3*3 echo with Energy Regen and slap a Discord weapon on her and if you got a Discord weap that has 5 dupes feed into it, it gives big concerto regen when you skill, so yeah, if the resources isn't very limited i definitely would want to experiment on team composition that isn't meta but rather feel pretty good to play than focusing on DMG per screenshot.

    • @IceWotor
      @IceWotor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@haruusami1831 isn't the tower just a dps check tho due to the limited time?

  • @WidadSadki
    @WidadSadki 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    all i need is a c6 jainxin , i know she can fix me

    • @qualwinters8784
      @qualwinters8784 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I've been targeting Jianxin since the game's release, and still happily playing her in my main party today!
      Not only is she a looker, but her shield is incredible too. 😍

  • @Bpapayaboy
    @Bpapayaboy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    jianxin+turtle she can just face tank hologram boss.

  • @user-yr9rx2xh5t
    @user-yr9rx2xh5t 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Never had Calcharo's fantom warrior doing T-pose like in this video

    • @dvornikovalexei
      @dvornikovalexei 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I see this shit multiple times because i main him since Day 1

    • @user-yr9rx2xh5t
      @user-yr9rx2xh5t 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dvornikovalexei I also have him as main and yet never had it

  • @goantasebastian2584
    @goantasebastian2584 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    my problem with the current shielders of WuWa is that they are not shielders. They are HP extenders. their shield does not block any stagger, so you can't really rely on a shield in a case like Yinlin where a stagger can screw over her whole Forte.

  • @Ato-bc9rh
    @Ato-bc9rh 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    T pose to assure dominance ‏‪2:19‬‏

  • @MarionFR
    @MarionFR 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Very nice. Shield > healing, as mechanic itself in general. Very much because of the potential one-shots, true. Much appreciated, good job 👌🏻 I much enjoy Taoqi, she is very comfy and easily better than healers, I just had to learn a bit how to play with her. I will try Jianxin and Yuanwu more too.

  • @krach2996
    @krach2996 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was actually wondering who to level as my 3rd support so thanks for the video imma lv my taoqi for my jinhsi team

  • @saintontas
    @saintontas  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Jianxin was the only slightly built shielder in this video. Taoqi is level 40 and Yuanwu didn't have an echo set equipped (you can see he has no echo skill).
    If you're running the Yuanwu/Taoqi/Jinhsi team (I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT), you'll want Yuanwu on Rejuvenating Glow and a Moonlit Clouds on Taoqi for maximum effectiveness!

    • @rsg_magfire
      @rsg_magfire 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My level 1 yuanwu is doing okay 🤣

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      what a trash team, 1 intro skill every 10days

    • @fgiveme
      @fgiveme 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How do you charge Taoqi's outro fast? It takes forever for me to get the buff. Verina was a lot more comfortable with moonlit.

    • @fgiveme
      @fgiveme 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What's the fastest way to charge up Taoqi's outro?

  • @ForTheViolence
    @ForTheViolence 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I gotta really sit down with the game soon and round out my teams and get good. I’m about to hit level 50. Just been playing casually but mastering calcharo the most.

  • @emzi2000
    @emzi2000 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This vid really explains why I main Taoqi

  • @lowliethxd1471
    @lowliethxd1471 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been having a problem with shields lately. (specifically with Jianxin since she's the only one I have). I noticed that it doesnt have interruption resistance? I still get yeeted by hard heavy attacks when I play Encore. Is this intentional or am I doing something wrong?

    • @BananaFlavouredPants
      @BananaFlavouredPants 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, shields are bad in Wutheing. They offer no interruption resistance and take too long to set up. Healers are better in every single scenario.

  • @ganyumaindayone1112
    @ganyumaindayone1112 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what make verina above the rest is not her healing (though it a huge part of her benefit) its the fact she generate concerto ultra fast, allowing you to have almost instant intro/outro skill, and her buffs
    she has low field time, high concerto generation, high buff numbers and uptime
    no other support currently have that

  • @TheFleshSeeker
    @TheFleshSeeker 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I started building Taoqui and i e been using Jianxin but i dont know how her skill scales ? Atk stat ?

  • @yuvarajm5795
    @yuvarajm5795 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Also, tank characters can't directly provide you the shield instead they take a few seconds of field time to give you the shield. Like taoqi needs to do an intro followed by 3 BA. Jianxin needs to fill her forte and do a full CA.
    but healers takes less field time to do their healing and buffing which gives more dps

    • @KABLAMMATS
      @KABLAMMATS 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Okay case closed, this video is not needed 😂

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii วันที่ผ่านมา

      Taopi is the only one good on this list since if you know how to time it you can instantly switch in, hold NA to do the CA then 3 NA before needing ti leave the field. Ult for good measure before you do the hold

  • @WI-FI_GOD
    @WI-FI_GOD 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Welp you successfully convinced me to build taoqi

  • @faizfaiz5389
    @faizfaiz5389 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ive been building taoq with almost 4k def
    Everytime i will take a hit just emergency swap her

  • @EkkoNii
    @EkkoNii 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    sheilding is good but jianxin takes 10 sec field time instead of verina's 4 secs thats why your rotations are too slow resulting is way less dps,
    i tried calcharo jianxin sanhua it took 144 secs to beat the morning anix in TOA vs with calcharo sanhua verina takes around 110 secs
    its not that its bad its just way less dps

  • @svr5531
    @svr5531 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    good video dood

  • @voshadxgathic
    @voshadxgathic 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've just recently 30/30'd the Tower. The Hazard Tower was done with S0 Verina, S0/R1 Jinhsi and S3 Havor Rover.
    For almost every other chamber, I had no characters that classified as a support. The only exception being Jianxin, whom I used more for her crowd control than her shield, because it allowed me to group multiple enemies with ease, making aoe damage more effective.
    She's also severely underinvested, a bad pair of gauntlets (I still don't have Marcato) at 60, only lvl 70 despite my being UL 57, missing the top 4 passive stat buffs, and level 5 skills.
    Baizhi, Taoqi and Yuanwu are lvl 20 still.
    I'm also not really a whale, as my only 5 star cons are on Calcharo S1(I lost Jiyan 50/50 to the only Standard character I owned from beginner banner. And S1 Yinlin, which was a super lucky double 5 star in a single 10 pull, winning both 50/50. Neither of which are particularly game breaking sequences.
    In total, I only even used 8 characters. Calcharo, Yinlin, Jiyan, Verina, Jinhsi, Jianxin, Chixia and Havoc Rover.

  • @marukundesu3529
    @marukundesu3529 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use Jianxin as a healer. Then sub Yinlin with Calcharo. Jianxin counter resonance is OP and her shield with bell shield is insane. Plus her Liberation buff with Calcharo or Yinlin is massive.

  • @teaco3088
    @teaco3088 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Most players spend their time in the over world where you might take dmg from random sources. Having a healer to bring everything back to 100 is so good for long term sustainability for exploration.
    That said I think that shields are so much better for more skilled players. The advantages of shielders are almost undeniable.

    • @saintontas
      @saintontas  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Use Jianxin for exploration and get the best of both worlds!

    • @teaco3088
      @teaco3088 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@saintontas lol I wish I had her

  • @viggo6607
    @viggo6607 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree with this 100%. Shielders are more valuable than healers. Even if your Verina has the best echoes, she can't help you from getting killed in one hit. It just so happens that the healers right now have better damage amplification than the shielders, and require lesser field time.

  • @sefriilham
    @sefriilham 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    thank you for new perspective

  • @evgenybespalov2540
    @evgenybespalov2540 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can somebody explain how to build Jianxin correctly for the good shield and some healing? Maybe I didn’t read carefully her skills, but I didn’t get from which stat it’s scales (hp, atk or what)?

    • @saintontas
      @saintontas  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You can run all attack mainstats on her and she'll have the strongest shield possible.

    • @dariusissobel5470
      @dariusissobel5470 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My jianxin using full moonlit set with turtle echo but for Jinhshi team is better to use Heron and turtle on Yuanwu. Also main stats ATK and ER (atleast 160+).

  • @dug93r07
    @dug93r07 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i use a s0 jianxin for jinhsi and yinlin because of her shield and heal

  • @bigfootisreal_
    @bigfootisreal_ 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been running an electro team since Yinlin. Calcharo (C0), Yinlin(C0S1 sub dps moonlit) and Yuanwu (C6 def build rejuvenation set)

    • @zipzzo
      @zipzzo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The problem is the sheild only lasts for 10 seconds

  • @tatsumiuchiha5559
    @tatsumiuchiha5559 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Me using Jianxin-Yinlin-Rover(S) team 😂😂😂
    Honestly, Rover(S) is currently my favorite character in super hard fights, just cause he can dodge at almost any point without losing DPS. Plus the Time-Stop gives time for Jianxin to quickly use the full Zhoutian Circuit (I have her C1 which also helps) and switch out.

  • @reactiondavant-garde3391
    @reactiondavant-garde3391 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The real big brain is just useing Verina and Taoqi the same time with Jinshi, pefect synergy and increadible sustain.

  • @fiamma_23
    @fiamma_23 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I heard that aerial Lingyang have anti flinch, so giving him shield allow you to just go berserk.

    • @drekhunter
      @drekhunter 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's his S1, I went and checked his whole kit and I don't see anti interruption anywhere else on his kit.

  • @Hyuinn
    @Hyuinn 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You guys need sustain units?

  • @sakutaro3musik486
    @sakutaro3musik486 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    sadly shields aren´t like in genshin where they stop you from being interrupted, i wish shields would just be weak but stop interruption so i could facetank with calcharo during his burst but since this isn´t the case they are just worse healing

    • @somebodyanonymous4608
      @somebodyanonymous4608 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think he mentioned the Bell echo set as being necessary for interruption res. That combines with the normal shield to create something spectacular.

  • @winkythepooh
    @winkythepooh 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    its just there's no great shielder within the game yet.
    Jianxin took a lot of time to up most of her shields which leads to dps loss and could be cancelled half way by some bosses or off set by getting a huge hit while charging.
    Yuanwu needs S4 to unlock the shield + slow concerto energy regen
    Taoqi is a very clanky character to use specially against high mobility enemies. she slows down the rotations by a lot which also leads to dps loss.
    if ever we get someone like verina but does shielding instead of healing it'll be a very good unit or could be even better for most characters. specially when the shields is based on max hp which could be boost with food buffs.

  • @ed.g4711
    @ed.g4711 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    like to add yangyang too. she can be a support

  • @Nole2701
    @Nole2701 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    as we learned from honkai star rail, heals don't matter if u get 1-shot anyways.

  • @재현7704
    @재현7704 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jinhsi just made Taoqi shield unlimited, 😐 this duo is so underated.

  • @nobody-xh6ii
    @nobody-xh6ii 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Taopi is the only good shielder in the game because if you are skilled enough to time it you can switch in, insta block the attack then strike 3 times as a counter before hitting with a big havoc nuke before using dreamless then fking off to someone else.
    I'm using her as a sub dps shielder but we really need other elemental verina specifically. Sub dpsing or buffing + shielding or buffing + healing.
    Preferably a havoc buffer + shielder + healer like baizhu

  • @justinrazon7200
    @justinrazon7200 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video. Although... why not use both?
    Also I wish Taoqi was better. As much as I liked this video, her placement in the tier list is warranted. The only thing Taoqi does is shielding. Her other "benefit" of buffing Jinhsi with her outro is moot due to how terrible her concerto gain is, and not to mention she also does not have coordinated attacks anywhere in her kit.
    Unless you have no one else available (Yinlin/Yuanwu) try not to use Taoqi with Jinhsi. Use her on other teams if you really like Taoqi.

  • @DisappointedJynxzi
    @DisappointedJynxzi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I only use Verina to buff the team

  • @hanifnurudin5397
    @hanifnurudin5397 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problem is prywdyn tier list placing verina not because her healing but because verina capability in buff department
    The heal is just bonus

    • @voshadxgathic
      @voshadxgathic 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Once she's properly invested, her healing output is pretty incredible. But yes, the combination of bell echo, synchronized attacks and a team buff outro are more insane still.

  • @nawu2024
    @nawu2024 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the only crappy thing about Shield in this game is it doesnt have Interruption Resistance..

  • @Noobster474
    @Noobster474 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Genshin had already predict and planned all these 4 years before this. Now this game is the same 🗣️🔊🔊🔥✋😔🤚

  • @KuroiRyuuGaming
    @KuroiRyuuGaming 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shields are arguably better than heals, but healers are, imo, currently better than shielders. It's really hard to make an argument that Taoqi is better than Verina for Jinhsi, or that Taoqi is a better support character than Verina overall.
    Yuanwu has been amazing for me, but that's in addition to Verina, since they cap my Jinhsi in one rotation and take almost no field time. Taoqi would take away from that, and make me lost out on stacks, on top of her Skill DMG buff getting diluted by all the other +DMG buffs Jinhsi already gets meaning that the difference ends up being less than assumed. Verina's buff also matter more if you're using a DPS more oriented hybrid.
    Jianxin currently takes too much field time to build forte and get her max shield, but her Sequence Nodes look like they heavily address that. Too bad it'll take a few years to get them...
    So yeah, in a vacuum, Shields > Heals, but the characters themselves are another story, more cons than pros imo.

    • @saintontas
      @saintontas  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You bring up great points. I'm personally waiting for a 5* shielder who has the same buffing/rotation speed as Verina but provides a shield instead of healing - I think this type of support character is one that will let players really push the limits of rotations and have an even higher skillcap across gameplay.

  • @Vult_Ira317
    @Vult_Ira317 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ngl for the electro tower it's useless running healers just go Full Dps and Sub maybe Shields if needed.

  • @daisukeshinji4061
    @daisukeshinji4061 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think the worst part about shields is that you can still get knock backed by the enemy. At least for me. The value a shield grants is good but I still have to dodge attacks in order to keep attacking. So when I have to dodge anyway I take the healer + RG-echo set, get the buffs and if I get hit, I will heal myself back up. The only character who can provide both is Jianxin and I really like her (her game play is good as well:) ). I know what you are trying to say and I agree at some point but in reality I think its pretty hard to really benefit completely from it. Games like Genshin did it better in my opinion where a shield lets you tank damage but also prevents you from getting knock backed (I don't want a Zhongli shield to tank every hit, however for the hits the shield is able to tank I should get the resistance to interruption).

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Your comparison to Genshin is missed. Thing about combining shields with interruption resistance is - that just makes shields waaaaay better than healing. Look how much they did to bring the balance - shielders provide very little in comparison to healers, putting sustain aside. And... that was still not enough! Look how they were constantly making healing needed and better - by adding HP draining which ignores shields, enemies spawning shields if you have a shield... artifacts for healers, finally - Furina... Conclusion - you are wrong, shields designed like this are just broken, plus Genshin is a much different game at the end of the day. But you do have some point about shields in WuWa. I would say - maybe they could provide interruption res limited to one - three hits, or... maybe we will be getting characters with interruption resistance and high synergy with shielders? Let's also not forget Yuanwu who is already a shielder with interruption resistance... Just on s4, I don't know how he works exactly.

    • @daisukeshinji4061
      @daisukeshinji4061 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah I should have specified it more, you are right. Genshin didnt made it perfectly as well. I just wanted to tell in which direction I wanted to go. I think something in between would be good. I would accept a Knock back when I get hit by a big hit, but at least let me fight against these normal human like dudes without having the fear that I fly away if I dont dodge. The shields also do not have to hit high numbers to tank for Days. And as you said, I really dont want a "Zhongli situation" where shields are just so much better than anything else. However for me heals in WuWa are just so much better and versatile than Shields atm that I dont consider using shields except for Jianxin who can do both. A resistance to interruption would be a huge step in the direction of balancing these features (Calcharo likes this). Other option would be simething like an echo-set which provides buffs by giving a shield (with the risk of losing it for example). At least thats what I think.
      And I do not want special characters (in the future) who can give the resistance. I do not like this kinda concept where some characters get favoured and some do not.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarionFR learn how to dodge noob

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz keep being a pathetic hater, LMAO 😂

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarionFR keep being a weakling noob, i can at least prove my words with my skill unlike you

  • @cassandra2646
    @cassandra2646 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who doesn't have Verina since the game launch, I don't understand the complaints on the first few seconds LOL!

    • @zippo718
      @zippo718 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Verina is waaaaaay more than just a healer. She's the fastest concerto generator and general buffer in the game and it isnt even close. She's an absolute unit even if she did no healing.

    • @saintontas
      @saintontas  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zippo718 Her speed is definitely her selling point; Baizhi actually has a better revive and more flexible healing on her outro skill.

    • @cassandra2646
      @cassandra2646 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zippo718 Was it my fault for not having Verina? I mean she's my guaranteed but I'm short on 10 pulls. Will probably get enough pulls on 1.2 until then I'm Verina-less LOL!
      PS: Darn, I'm 20 pulls short, probably on 1.3

    • @somebodyanonymous4608
      @somebodyanonymous4608 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cassandra2646 Maybe you'll lose (win) the main character banner in a good way? She isn't limited after all.

    • @cassandra2646
      @cassandra2646 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@somebodyanonymous4608 thanks, no worries. Certainly, I could get her. I selected her on my beginner's banner, I'm just short of 20 pulls. In case you're wondering, why I haven't gotten her yet, I pick the emerald of genesis first since four of my sword users uses that sword (danjin, rover, yangyang and sanhua)

  • @kenkaneki2202
    @kenkaneki2202 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I started the game i wanted 1 girl I picked her off my ticket booba monk don't regret it love her didn't care if she was good or bad.

  • @dominantgorilla9274
    @dominantgorilla9274 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This game is like genshin on that point shields have always been better in genshin since you don't get interrupted during your dmg rotation since you don't need to dodge with a shield

    • @SsabirR69
      @SsabirR69 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, it's nothing like Genshin and healers here are currently better than shielders

  • @flipside9608
    @flipside9608 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In games, damage reduction and prevention has always been more favourable later on in game cycles.
    Look at Genshin and Honkai Star Rail. Healers were valued higher early on, because of how easy they were to use for their investment levels. As games and mechanics progressed, damage reduction and prevention became more prominent as enemy damage had begun to rise.
    In timed content, shields hold higher value as they will let you tank attacks rather than waste time avoiding them.

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii วันที่ผ่านมา

      Healers are equally valued now due to the fact alot of them do healing + other things. Baizhu for example who does healing + inteurption resist + application + buffing. Charlotte for application + healing. Kokomi for healing + aoe application. Cheveruse for buffing + healing.
      Some healers like noelle are not as valued unless you are using furina and noelle together because noelle's a straight dps. Or how bad diona is in both shielding and healing. Or how terrible barbara is because her E not only gives you hydro and causes you to freeze to death so she's too burst reliant to make her valuable in anything. same issue with benny who heals but causes you to die because of the pyro application he puts over your head so with more enemies with high EM stats coming out he gets you killed by a vape/melt easily. Or overloaded to death

  • @pauljoseph3081
    @pauljoseph3081 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Says the guy who said Cal is trash, despite there are other CC's who use Cal as main to clear all Holo lvl 6 (except TM of course) solo... LMAO

    • @BladeSerph
      @BladeSerph 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      To be correct, beta cal was good, but the needs in official made him rely more harder on yinlin and rely more on timing your attacks then able to gun hoe despite the short period to pop and short time to do dps that ruined him a lot.
      If maybe his e skill spam wasn’t so necessary for rotations and either require far less presses or so on, then he could still be stonks as his beta ver.
      Right now, he basically can be seen as needing a high investment of multiple 5 stars due to the ‘same problems’ that yinlang has, except instead of basic combo chains, it’s resonance skill chains.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@pauljoseph3081 because he is, without yinlin even danjin does more dmg and has more aoe than him funnily enough.

  • @frianoMontez
    @frianoMontez 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wuwa need a zhongli for skill issue and mobile players. Not to mention the final boss of camera angle.

  • @puenboy1
    @puenboy1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just dont get hit then u dont need sustain 😏

  • @kotowari234
    @kotowari234 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    verina still > taoqi. its not about the numbers its about the synergy

  • @SINERKJ
    @SINERKJ 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Shields... Huh?
    -Zhongli "I will have Order!"

  • @kikkuqi
    @kikkuqi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    jianxin can literally heal 💀 also why heal when dodge

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kikkuqi activate 5 set rejuvination

    • @tienmanhnguyen3422
      @tienmanhnguyen3422 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Why need to heal or shielding when you can just dodge?"

    • @kikkuqi
      @kikkuqi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tienmanhnguyen3422 my point

  • @rlstrength
    @rlstrength 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is interesting thinking but pure cope IMO, the shields are locked behind long and clunky animations or rotations. If it was something like press button to get big shield sure, but it's just not

  • @I-MAC
    @I-MAC 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope in the future they make a shield support character like Zhongli. I enjoy playing dodge and parry but sometimes I want to play more relaxed.

  • @Vizible21
    @Vizible21 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would've agreed if shileds come with built in interruption resistance in this game but it does not. Not unless Kuro release a shield echo that buffs. But until then Healers > shields.

  • @johnastler7665
    @johnastler7665 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As far as i tried sheilds are useless against holograms!! Jianxin shield is frustrating to get then when you get it it's being one shoted with mid build so still convinced sheilds are useless

    • @saintontas
      @saintontas  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Jianxin with her forte bar and the bell borne echo has 100% DR, it's quite literally impossible for her to get 1-shot.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@saintontasand so what, making the shield appear while she whirls like an idiot being a useless dps loss, and then her shield breaks in 1 hit anyways and provides nothing else

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz 🤣🤣🤣

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarionFR dont even try spreading your wrong opinions to me you weakling.

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Too bad Shields don't have resistance to interruption, except s4 Yuanwu, but only lasts 10 seconds.
      For the main DPS you want them on.

  • @sotruwu
    @sotruwu 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Massive misunderstanding here is that no one picks Verina for heals. She is a buffer. A far more efficient buffer than any1 in the game (team wide buffs + short on-field duration). Just cause Taoqi gives a higher screenshot number doesn't make her better
    Shields won't be valuable in this game unless:
    1. You have skill issue
    2. we get a shielder that buffs AND provides anti-interruption. this would be broken.
    (Currently only Yuanwu provides team wide anti-interruption + shields, but has no team outro buff)
    shields mean nothing if you get staggered as you're at a dps loss for not dodging anyways.
    End of the day none of this matters as the game is not difficult enough for it too. Once ppl level cap the challenge that the game currently poses will be non existent

  • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
    @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    only reason to even use heal is to proc 5 set rejuv, or verina buff specifically, other than that, everything else, heaking and shielding is completely useless

  • @T1mo777
    @T1mo777 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wuwa Zhongli when?

    • @Aswero21
      @Aswero21 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      wouldn't fit the game honestly

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That would be horrible and it doesn't fit WuWa at all

    • @BladeSerph
      @BladeSerph 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only unless he acts as a main dps that provides anti interrupt damage reduction to the party and extra energy regen for the party to make buffs flow into him fast so he is instead of being a dong, he helps his sub dos and support so they can help him better.

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BladeSerph What happened with your valuable comment about team with Taoqi on Discord???

    • @BladeSerph
      @BladeSerph 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarionFR Toast is incompatible with toaster, Bladeserph is not ‘found on discord’.
      Odor detected so initiating Old spice Body odor blocker.exe.~

  • @zippo718
    @zippo718 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I feel like Taoqi is only better than Verina for Jinhsi on paper. She's not even a real shielder, its too unreliable.

    • @saintontas
      @saintontas  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Taoqi/Yuanwu personally feels better to play for me than Yinlin/Verina. Taoqi can immediately generate her shield using her 3 Basics after an intro skill, and Jinhsi literally gives intro skills for free. I think it's far more reliable than you think.

    • @HowDo_IKnowBruh
      @HowDo_IKnowBruh 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@saintontas🧢, I've tried using Taoqi and dang she's very clunky to play, I much prefer Yuanwu+Verina.
      If only Taoqi as fun as she is in Illusive dream tho.

    • @sentryion3106
      @sentryion3106 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@saintontasI think yuanwu is the one that makes you feel better, together yuanwu and verina can almost instantly refill jinhsi dragon puke

    • @saintontas
      @saintontas  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@sentryion3106Two coordinated attackers is pretty overkill and from my experience leads to overcapping on Jinhsi's forte bar. It's a good team though!

    • @manyblock4192
      @manyblock4192 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@saintontas It's not, Yuanwu and Verina has fast rotation (put Rejuvenating on Yuanwu), u can spam Full charge Puke with full Echo buff, u won't get overcharge if u already use it before it get full
      Ofc S6 has different strategy as they one hit boss with Taoqi buff instead needed 2 cycle to do that on ToA, but it will different story if enemy have 2-3x HP on ToA

  • @Rascalli
    @Rascalli 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want jianxin so bad I hate encore 😭😭😭