Gnosticism - Gnostic Myth and Ritual - The Three Steles of Seth from the Nag Hammadi Library

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  • Gnostic ritual and liturgical life remain one of the enduring mysteries even following the incredible discovery of the Nag Hammadi Library. This episode explores a text which combines both the mythology and ritual practice of ancient Gnosticism: The Three Steles of Seth (Nag Hammadi Codex VII, 5).
    Recommended Readings:
    Meyer - The Nag Hammadi Scriptures - 9780061626005
    Van ben Broek - Gnostic Religion in Antiquity - 978-1107514799
    Turner - Sethian gnosticism and the platonic tradition - B01B99FOGU

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    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir, you need to read the book, The Divine Invasion
      I read it as a child, but it's clear to me now that some of the things the main character Manny were doing was inspired by this gnostic text.

  • @oat5662
    @oat5662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Just imagine another discovery like the Nag Hammadi library in the future. We can only hope it happens in our lifetime.

    • @Riplee
      @Riplee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@otundetchagala9560 I agree, there are no doubt private specimens that are woefully unknown in respects to the wider world. Imagine what we lost in the Library of Alexandria, it still happens, and it's a pity we have such a loose grasp on our histories.

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    @Walkyrjenny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Dr. Sledge is an awesome superhero name. Also? I love your sense of humor, and you'd be welcome at my D&D table any game night. Thanks for breaking down these esoteric topics suitably for lay persons; I find them fascinating, even though I don't have the time or the right kind of mind to sus it all out for myself.

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  • @ustinia_rand
    @ustinia_rand ปีที่แล้ว +11

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  • @ericthegreat7805
    @ericthegreat7805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The view of Seth being a foreigner is reminiscient of the Egyptian mythology of Set, God of foreigners and the desert. Since Israelites were foreigners in Egypt (Exodus), we may speculate some link between Set and Proto Seth, in an Anti Egyptian national foundation myth of Israel. Hence the link of Canaan-Cainites-with Egypt, slavery, oppression and national humiliation.
    There is also a link to Shia Islam as they view Seth as the first Imam revealed by Prophet Adam.

  • @ladylongsleeves3175
    @ladylongsleeves3175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You upload this when I just visited the Jewish history museum in Amsterdam. What a treat.

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
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      Nice - You can see where they excommunicated Spinoza there and, the Esnoga used to feature wonderful candlelit baroque music performances. Just lovely!

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    • @daniwoods6868
      @daniwoods6868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Must have been a shit load of fiction there

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    • @chocolatefigure01
      @chocolatefigure01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would call ur book life itself. Dont forget to add an IA from future controlling politicians in order to be born.

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    @TheOneHoddToward 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Adam, the first Dude. The prime Bro, even. The earliest Pal, if you will.

  • @VantaCube
    @VantaCube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always find myself watching episodes from start to finish. Whether it’s in regards to John Dee & Kelley, Gnosticism, Agrippa, Cabbalistic practices, various Sefers or otherwise it’s always rewarding. I find myself frequently anticipating the next video. I’m looking forward to more extrapolation on the history, and your personal interpretation, of Enoch which you mentioned briefly during a prior livestream (as well as more obscure or unknown esoteric topics that I’m entirely unaware of).

  • @justinbirkholz
    @justinbirkholz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fascinating... I'll have to take a look at those hymns. That sounds like quite an ecstatic practice full of prayer and praise. Exactly the kind of thing I'm into!

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  • @williammartinactor
    @williammartinactor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have craved a Gnostic Spiritual Practice Vid like this. TY

  • @matthewfurnari-omara2079
    @matthewfurnari-omara2079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really fantastic video. Thanks so much for all of the scholarly efforts that you engage in.

  • @meekle8891
    @meekle8891 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the Meyer Nag Hammadi scriptures recently but haven't looked at it too deeply. I'm a bit more excited to do so now. Thanks Dr.

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    Great episode--especially fascinating introduction of the "other," among all the other topics.

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    Thank you Dr. Sledge

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    Thanks Doc.

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  • @rebeccacooper2874
    @rebeccacooper2874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had always wondered if the androgynous individual could be a mixture of physical and spiritual in essence. Like I'm physically female, but I'm born a Sagittarius and it's a masculine sign. Could the embodiment of the 2 have any affect in practicing alchemy?

  • @herbertyoung540
    @herbertyoung540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your insight ...

  • @boyscoutalchemist
    @boyscoutalchemist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smooth as butter doc, I loved this. Thank you for keeping a bit of alchemy. I suspect the Gnostics were not using meditation, rather they discovered some form of DMT. This describes a classic DMT experience. Gender, Godhead, out of body etc. Just an observation. Religion I have never experienced so can't comment.

  • @BrianNeil
    @BrianNeil 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous! Thank you.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I´d like to see a video about the ritual of Abramelin in dept, and it´s several versions french, german and the less known and misterious italian manuscript.

  • @Holistic-Healthcare
    @Holistic-Healthcare 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't Johns baptism partially drowning Initiates in the river Jordan to invoke mystical experience / NDE?

  • @jasmyneemmerick
    @jasmyneemmerick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful review! Thank you.
    *Question* : In Gnostic conversations, I often hear people refer to the soul as being trapped in "a prison." Do the Gnostic texts make this comparison or is it attributed Philip K. Dick's writings?

    • @chocolatefigure01
      @chocolatefigure01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Souls bewitched by Heavy Beast, a machine that imposes us certain perception would be more apropiate these days, greeks used to say soma sema.

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    @christianfranks3550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @gabriellawrence6598
    @gabriellawrence6598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content as always, but the million dollar question is, does doc Sledge practice magic and the occult while we're not looking?

  • @drjohndee4322
    @drjohndee4322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really Great video ! I really enjoyed it !

  • @aribailor3766
    @aribailor3766 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The triple man? Any association with tripolism such as Mercury or Lugus?

  • @cherylholmes9903
    @cherylholmes9903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dr. Sledge just asking with the referal of Adam and Eve how did they get their names as they were the first man and woman, not being a smart bum just trying to understand how they came upon their names when the bible book any of them I find it hard to understand could you please explain on them abit more I'm just trying to understand

  • @shink3n
    @shink3n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I paused when you mentioned Seth was the first to essentially gain the knowledge that the spirit is not of this world. But if I'm not mistaken, (and it may be from a non-Sethian gnostic tradition), aren't the first to have gained that knowledge Adam and Eve? I've definitely heard somewhere that, unlike the orthodox traditions, the serpent of the Garden of Eden should be considered a messiah (an incarnated Sophia) for delivering Adam and Eve from the chains of enforced ignorance placed on them by the Elohim or Yaldabaoth + the Archons. Which tradition is this perspective from? May be a good subject for a future video...
    Thanks for the content btw!

    • @chocolatefigure01
      @chocolatefigure01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr. Snake was the first to gain knowledge. The original Plato (there are many).

    • @shink3n
      @shink3n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chocolatefigure01 I took it as more of an Aeon (specifically Sophia, as I mentioned) kinda commandeering an already existing animal to use it to speak through to inform Eve and Adam that they were being held captive by her unfortunate demiurge son.

    • @chocolatefigure01
      @chocolatefigure01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shink3nPlato could talk to ELOHIM (Him or El), he gained knowledge of Heavy Beast from them.

  • @williammartinactor
    @williammartinactor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listening to you is like looking full on at the Sun during an eclipse. Too dazzling. Stop it! 😂🤩

  • @user-jt5ot4hy9q
    @user-jt5ot4hy9q 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any connection between the name Seth (the son of Adam) and Set/Seth (Typhon) of the Egyptians, perhaps via the Hyksos appropriation of Set as their own Baal Saphon?

  • @derekknight9789
    @derekknight9789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SETH convinced his brother OSIRIS to get into the what?
    KENOSIS?
    Iblis vs. Shaaytan as selfish / optimal.
    Maybe Seth was the scapegoat and the oppressed?
    if so, then he has/had extra supernatural capacity IMO.

    • @derekknight9789
      @derekknight9789 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ultimately we are GOD/OSIRIS/THE DEVIL/SETH, the labels of individualism create suffer. Just like Yoda said.

    • @chocolatefigure01
      @chocolatefigure01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekknight9789 no one can have your attitude, thats the key of the perception. So yes, individualists win rejecting solipsism.

  • @_spacegoat_
    @_spacegoat_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Tablet of Destinies

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It occurs in both forms in both Sumerian (𒁾𒉆𒋻𒊏 - dubnamtarra, note there is no plural .ene 𒂊𒉈 marker) but does occur in plural form in Akkadian ṭup šīmātu, ṭuppi šīmāti

    • @_spacegoat_
      @_spacegoat_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheEsotericaChannel I don't know if I'm more impressed with how quickly you replied, the fact that there is some discrepancy in the text and you were already aware of it, or that you have a cuneiform font loaded on your computer and know how to use it.

    • @error5202
      @error5202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheEsotericaChannel This guy, breaking out the cuneiform

  • @KatyWantsToGo
    @KatyWantsToGo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have no way to verify if those books are anything but an Easter egg...

  • @republiccooper
    @republiccooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this one a bit complicated.

  • @jesperandersson889
    @jesperandersson889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    myrotheod myrioi+theov - of the many thousands of god(s)???

  • @KamikazethecatII
    @KamikazethecatII 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i

  • @nosuchthing8
    @nosuchthing8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this is where Phillip k dick got some of his ideas in the divine invasion.

  • @kaykay1570
    @kaykay1570 ปีที่แล้ว

    💚😇

  • @bgp001
    @bgp001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love your in depth vids on Gnosticism!

    • @TheEsotericaChannel
      @TheEsotericaChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! I always enjoy these deeper dives. The texts are just so, so rich.

  • @user-if4nx2jn8r
    @user-if4nx2jn8r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From both a metaphysical and philosophical standpoint, gnosticism is really fascinating. It's kind of a shame it was marginalized so early on, but I suppose we still have more sources on it than we do about some ancient religions and philosophical disciplines.

  • @Dank-gb6jn
    @Dank-gb6jn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would’ve been amazing to have been a fly on the wall during the ancient rituals of the Gnostics. Perhaps in the coming years, we’ll find more details on them (and perhaps more of the Gospel of Mary); as just recently a fragment of the New Testament composed in Syriac was discovered!

  • @madmoran1029
    @madmoran1029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am very happy to say that while your uploads are an academics/antiquarians dream, your humor and subtle delivery is greatly appreciated. Keep up the excellent content Sir.

  • @unrealbullet
    @unrealbullet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GOD BLESS THE CATHARS

  • @robertusthemac
    @robertusthemac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great analysis, thank you

  • @damsam6509
    @damsam6509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love this guy just info no sides taken this is a true school of learning

  • @SamplingStones
    @SamplingStones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LESSSSS GOOOOOOO I LOVE IT

  • @Kahuilla
    @Kahuilla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My word, this is perfect timing. I m editing the lesser known grimoire ”Liber Bileth”. Too bad it s not Gnostic so it can be a spooky coincidence.

  • @aketchupman5103
    @aketchupman5103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do an episode on Neoplatonic cosmology such as Iamblichus’

  • @mamam.d.8898
    @mamam.d.8898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @wexenhex
    @wexenhex 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    im especially pleased that you have presented the historical Gnostics in a more respectful light and praising their clear passion, rather than how we see sometimes as painting them as just insane heretics.

  • @anaryl
    @anaryl ปีที่แล้ว

    I got an ad for a Christian dating sites whilst watching this. That's an awful temptation towards apostasy

  • @neilgrace9147
    @neilgrace9147 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carpe Bebo Mr Sledge, Rock on, Siempre:-) Love

  • @smead7
    @smead7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adam, the first dude indeed

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @thandsch
    @thandsch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @jojones4685
    @jojones4685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Mock the old mythology' would be a great band name

  • @clintmontgomery4057
    @clintmontgomery4057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're Great Sledge! Long live Sledge the Great!! He Great Sledge Lives!!!

  • @androidbox3825
    @androidbox3825 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nobody can claim at this point that myth is fiction, at this juncture. god info but half truths the veil is lifted if you want to s it

  • @Engelhafen
    @Engelhafen ปีที่แล้ว

    You are such a knowledge treasure - big hugs

  • @Sweetest73
    @Sweetest73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting info! : “ we are foreigners in a foreign world” 🤔

  • @randyallen2966
    @randyallen2966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha “the demiurge with the good hair” had me rolling

  • @vrixphillips
    @vrixphillips 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    lmfao not Urizen with the Good Hair

  • @batbite_
    @batbite_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do we know anything about platonic religious practice and liturgy? If yes, maybe a video idea?

    • @chocolatefigure01
      @chocolatefigure01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plato was christian, the demon to be exact.