HNY. As you are the plastering guru. I have solid 9 inch walls on my bay window (1920s property). My question is can you use plastic internal corner beads as the metal ones that are currently there have rusted in a number of places and I don't want to replaster only to have the same problem. Many thanks.
I’ve seen a lot of beads cracked just up from skirting when joiners have nailed it on and on window Cills when wooden cills are fitted after . Also top of stairs is a bad bead to get knocked by other trades .the vast majority of times when I’ve been asked to sort it out the beads have been stapled on . I NEVER staple or nail beads always stick usually with drywall adhesive but sometimes with plaster . I’ve seen too many failures on other people’s work not to do it .
I'm with you Scott - if it's timber I run a few clouts in with the bead but when it's been dot and dabbed I think it's a nightmare so I just stick with staples. But yes...you definately have a point my friend 👍
Good idea Lee - I like that 👍. To be honest, nails or not, as soon as the Chippies been in and smashed his skirts down I think there's cracks regardless when it comes to plasterboard!
I'm with you on this one. Just posted a similar concern, but with the bead not being level, which leads to subsequent joinery issues. Seen a lot of poor bead work, and it's usually when best practice isn't followed in favour of the "that'll do" method. We call this "charitable work", because you're not getting paid to do it wrong.
So many times I've seen dryliners get pulled fir out of square reveals where it was square but the plasterers very rarely eye up the beads for level when they nail them on
I always stick my beads with for and dab adhesive. Seen too many so called plasterers just nail there beads onto the plasterboard regardless of its level or plumb.
Give it a go mate - it takes a bit of time to get used to it but it's good most of the time. No, I've never had any issues - I assume they have all been galvanised or as you say, made with stainless steel!
Got the staple tip from one of your previous videos, not had any problems at all but I do tape the beads in high use areas to try and give it a bit more strength. :)
Hi mate, good vids, thanks for uploading. Amateur question, do you find angle beads tend to protrude a bit too much? I find I end up with ski jumps on occasion when I can't get the skim thick enough. I find it easier to get a flat reveal by using stop beads but don't think they give as strong corners. Any ideas how to solve?
Hi mate. This is a good question and one of the struggles with correctly fixing corner beads. You need to make sure that the bead sits directly on the angle. If not, the left or right wing of the bead with kick up which is where the bead protrudes past the plaster. If it's in the centre then it should sit in line with either side of the wall. Hope this helps (and makes sense) 👍
Quick question bud, I’m a beginner, and i am working on my home only.. ive had a kind of learn as you go experience.. just wondering what would happen if you needed to remove the bead for reasons only known to myself haha, won’t it rip the plaster apart ? I know with nails i can see the tip and just shimmy it out safely!
Hi Blaine, what size staples are you using, I’m guessing most of the staples for that staple gun will be fine as it’s only to hold the bead until plaster sets up.
Any thoughts on overbeading existing wooden beads. Ive found with temp changes the wood expands and overbead bead cracks. Ive tried screws and scrim too. No luck. Way too much hassle to remove existing wooden bead as its normally embedded into wall. Thoughts please. Keep up the great vids.
Might try this way when am on site work and the boarders never leave many dabs round the window to nail to some times none at all thats price work for you!!so the beads are just hanging on
Hi mate great vid I’ve been using the same staple gun and never knew what that wheel was for it was always a bit hit and miss doing corner beads! 😂 Have you got a solution for squaring off rounded edges on old rendered walls, can you get a wider bead or something the standard stuff wouldn’t reach the edges if you know what I mean
Hi mate! Ha well there you go, we all learn something new everyday! I usually form a square edge with BG Bonding and when it's roughly there I stick a corner bead to the formed edge. It's a bit tricky but it's brilliant when you get the hang of it. I hope that made sense pal 👍
Plastering For Beginners top man that’s ideal mate I’m only doing a bit of DIY plastering and bits for mates but really enjoying it and smashing your videos. All good 👌🏼
Fast and easy? Maybe. But if you've not checked it's square and true, then it's no good. Best practice is to fix using bonding plaster, and checking levels as it sets. If it's not square, then skirting and architrave is going to be off too.
Midwest tin snips are the best in the world plus old walls you can use pink grip to stick the plastering beads on with internal and external it's great stuff to use it holds the beads really good no sagging and pretty much dry very quick for Re plastering
Iv done it that way,,now I drill 25mm in, then red plug ,nail, I'm skimming on it straight away,,if you knock it it doesn't fall off..on a stud staple ok..everyone to there own m8
What a man!
You helped a lot of us amateurs out with your generosity of spirit.
Brilliant
You're an absolute legend and a real inspiration. I'm just doing a six week course nvq level 2 and your videos are incredible.
Going to attempt my first wall soon in a cupboard out the way of view. Hopefully it's as easy as you make it look. Cheers for the tips
Bloody brilliant, I wish I'd known that years ago, just used it on some stop beads. Thanks
Just what I needed to know. You are my go- to! Thanks a lot 👍
HNY. As you are the plastering guru.
I have solid 9 inch walls on my bay window (1920s property). My question is can you use plastic internal corner beads as the metal ones that are currently there have rusted in a number of places and I don't want to replaster only to have the same problem. Many thanks.
I’ve seen a lot of beads cracked just up from skirting when joiners have nailed it on and on window Cills when wooden cills are fitted after . Also top of stairs is a bad bead to get knocked by other trades .the vast majority of times when I’ve been asked to sort it out the beads have been stapled on . I NEVER staple or nail beads always stick usually with drywall adhesive but sometimes with plaster . I’ve seen too many failures on other people’s work not to do it .
Run scrim either side of the bead
I'm with you Scott - if it's timber I run a few clouts in with the bead but when it's been dot and dabbed I think it's a nightmare so I just stick with staples. But yes...you definately have a point my friend 👍
Good idea Lee - I like that 👍. To be honest, nails or not, as soon as the Chippies been in and smashed his skirts down I think there's cracks regardless when it comes to plasterboard!
mickygism I can only comment on my experience and beads that are stuck on with plaster tend not to crack as much as those that are stapled
I'm with you on this one. Just posted a similar concern, but with the bead not being level, which leads to subsequent joinery issues. Seen a lot of poor bead work, and it's usually when best practice isn't followed in favour of the "that'll do" method. We call this "charitable work", because you're not getting paid to do it wrong.
For those of us without staple guns, what is a suitable equivalent?
Great videos Blaine, looking forward to giving plastering a go
Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it, thanks for watching 👍
So many times I've seen dryliners get pulled fir out of square reveals where it was square but the plasterers very rarely eye up the beads for level when they nail them on
the dewalt staple gun is best. It fires staples through the bead so you dont have to worry about lining them up with the holes.
I'll have to try that one pal. Cheers
I always stick my beads with for and dab adhesive. Seen too many so called plasterers just nail there beads onto the plasterboard regardless of its level or plumb.
Fair enough mate! That send to be a popular option!
Do you mitre cut bead around a window?
Hi.. Good video.. What size Staples? 14mm I guess.. Thanks
I've not used the staple gun method yet just curious do the staples ever rust and show through when painted? Unless its SS staples?
Give it a go mate - it takes a bit of time to get used to it but it's good most of the time. No, I've never had any issues - I assume they have all been galvanised or as you say, made with stainless steel!
Can you use plaster board adhesive for this instead of plaster ?
You can - it’s just a bit thick but it’s possible.
Got the staple tip from one of your previous videos, not had any problems at all but I do tape the beads in high use areas to try and give it a bit more strength. :)
Cheers mate - yeah I love the staple gun approach and to be fair I've never had issues! Great hearing from you 👍
I've used staples for years never had a problem. On solid backgrounds try using white or clear silicone all purpose. Easy to clean off to.
Good advice!! Cheers matey 👍
Hi mate, good vids, thanks for uploading. Amateur question, do you find angle beads tend to protrude a bit too much? I find I end up with ski jumps on occasion when I can't get the skim thick enough. I find it easier to get a flat reveal by using stop beads but don't think they give as strong corners. Any ideas how to solve?
Hi mate. This is a good question and one of the struggles with correctly fixing corner beads. You need to make sure that the bead sits directly on the angle. If not, the left or right wing of the bead with kick up which is where the bead protrudes past the plaster. If it's in the centre then it should sit in line with either side of the wall. Hope this helps (and makes sense) 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners thanks mate, very helpful.
Quick question bud, I’m a beginner, and i am working on my home only.. ive had a kind of learn as you go experience.. just wondering what would happen if you needed to remove the bead for reasons only known to myself haha, won’t it rip the plaster apart ? I know with nails i can see the tip and just shimmy it out safely!
Hi Blaine, what size staples are you using, I’m guessing most of the staples for that staple gun will be fine as it’s only to hold the bead until plaster sets up.
I use 12mm mate but like you said, I think this staple gun holds most sizes and shapes. It's a decent bit of kit actually!
What size staples did you use mate
10mm mate 👍
Any thoughts on overbeading existing wooden beads. Ive found with temp changes the wood expands and overbead bead cracks. Ive tried screws and scrim too. No luck. Way too much hassle to remove existing wooden bead as its normally embedded into wall. Thoughts please. Keep up the great vids.
I cut then out if I can but if not, I use a render bead and bond it around the wooden trim 👍
Where do you get the beads from?
I get them from my plastering merchants pal - they are Catnic beads. Very good quality but a bit pricier than your usual bunch.
Where abouts are you located?
I'm in Hastings matey 👍
Might try this way when am on site work and the boarders never leave many dabs round the window to nail to some times none at all thats price work for you!!so the beads are just hanging on
Give the staples a go pal! They do help with situations like that 👍
Hi mate great vid I’ve been using the same staple gun and never knew what that wheel was for it was always a bit hit and miss doing corner beads! 😂
Have you got a solution for squaring off rounded edges on old rendered walls, can you get a wider bead or something the standard stuff wouldn’t reach the edges if you know what I mean
Hi mate! Ha well there you go, we all learn something new everyday! I usually form a square edge with BG Bonding and when it's roughly there I stick a corner bead to the formed edge. It's a bit tricky but it's brilliant when you get the hang of it. I hope that made sense pal 👍
Plastering For Beginners top man that’s ideal mate I’m only doing a bit of DIY plastering and bits for mates but really enjoying it and smashing your videos. All good 👌🏼
Fast and easy? Maybe. But if you've not checked it's square and true, then it's no good. Best practice is to fix using bonding plaster, and checking levels as it sets. If it's not square, then skirting and architrave is going to be off too.
Brick or rock?
That’s cool if the corner is square/level which is hardly ever so dab be best that way I can make sure it’s bob on
Fair play mate!
As a fellow spread who’s been in the game 20 yrs, fuck all that messing around and get some pink grip, quick and easy
Haha fair enough, I'll give it a go. Thanks for the suggestion pal!
2nd fix nail gun mate 19mm Brad's shots them on quicker and u can shoot them in any think
Ha mate that's a mint shout. Cheers 👍
Hi Blaine, what size staples do you use?
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Expanda foam way quicker and you plumb in one go
My friend does it this way but I always end up with foam all over me but yeah, it definately works!
Midwest tin snips are the best in the world plus old walls you can use pink grip to stick the plastering beads on with internal and external it's great stuff to use it holds the beads really good no sagging and pretty much dry very quick for Re plastering
Quick tip, sack off mixing plaster and use green grip fill and tack it, way easier mate
I'll give it a go - I just hate cleaning it off the beads afterwards. With plaster I can just trowel it off 👍
Rust Rust Rust!!, poor old decorator.
I think they are stainless steel pal 👍
Galvanised
Iv done it that way,,now I drill 25mm in, then red plug ,nail, I'm skimming on it straight away,,if you knock it it doesn't fall off..on a stud staple ok..everyone to there own m8
Good idea mate!!
Do you not use levels?🙄🙄🙄
I dot and dabbed the plasterboard which I made sure was plumb. Run the beads flat to that and your sorted!
I dot and dabbed the plasterboard which I made sure was plumb. Run the beads flat to that and your sorted!
@@PlasteringForBeginners Heard ya first time mate
First lol
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