The Zodiac Killer - Lake Herman Site 4K
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- Join us as we visit the Lake Herman Site in Vallejo, California where on December 20th, 1968 an unknown person known as The Zodiac Killer started his infamous crime spree.
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Instead of leaving graffiti, I would have left some flowers in memory of David and Betty.
yeah its pretty disrespectful from these "edgy" teens, doubt they would feel the same if it was their relatives who were murdered there.
@@SleepscapeSerenity absolutely
@@SleepscapeSerenity The graffiti isn't to be disrespectful, the city workers immediately remove flowers, candles, etc. most people do pay their respects, but they leave graffiti to let others know it's the right spot. I live near in Vallejo and have seen flowers in the past.
People have in the past, but city workers immediately remove it.
@@SleepscapeSerenityexactly that was very selfish. It’s all fun & games for people like that until it’s their loved ones.
The second ZODIAC site is a five minute drive from where you were at.
Correct, only The parking lot has changed dramaticly over the years.
used to go to Blue Rock Springs all the time growing up
Call me old fashioned, but I feel it's insanely disrespectful to the memory of the two souls that were murdered & their families to leave markings fashioned after their killer at the site where their lives were senselessly taken
Respect is extinct. Haven’t you noticed?
It is extremely disrespectful. But the people who leave those messages are the original old school edgy internet trolls who don't really have any regards for peoples emotions, you know.... just like serial killers. If it were their own mother or father they wouldn't leave those messages, but because it was a long time ago and not related to them they don't give a shit. You can't stop morons unfortunately. Never mind two innocent teenagers who had their lives cut short, let's leave messages glorifying the killer because we are degenerates!
@@utterlybrilliant Exactly. That's the major issue I have with many recent movies, documentaries, & TV shows like "Very Scary People." They often glamorize the killer & their victims are basically made footnotes. The consequence of doing that is those markings; a total disregard for human life & violating the victims even in death
Spot on comment 100% agree with you.
Losers.
One of the craziest unsolved mysteries in history. Also one of the spookiest, knowing how close to my home this is.
@@gorybits. The Zodiac could possibly be your neighbor.
@@johnharrison9685 or his relative...
The movie genuinely convinced me it was Arthur Leigh Allen or the retied guy that work at the movie theater. The world will never know.
Vallejo PD also recently phuc Ed up the Haskins case.
found the killer
It's such a creepy mystery. Just killing for no real reason other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time and he is still unknown. That's why people scare me more than any paranormal activity. Thank you so much for sharing another awesome video.
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No they weren't in the wrong place the killer was
The Most Dangerous Game 💀
You should do the "night stalker" (Richard Ramirez) murder sites and capture of him by citizens and police.
That dude was caught by a kid. There's a interview about the kid on how he caught him.
@@JoelMartinez-ts1hr nah the kid recognised him but the neighboors caught him
Yeah an beat the shit outnof him to while twy waited for police to get there
@@JoelMartinez-ts1hrkid called the police and so did everyone else who saw him. But the guys in the neighborhood actually held him down until the police showed up.
I was 17 in 1975. I was the town of Modesto. I was walking five miles through orchards and long two lane roads. It is a lonely road & you actually not see very many cars. On this warm day a car drove by three different times so I knew someone was following me. I walked deep into the orange trees and waited then he came again a forth time and stopped along the roadside. I ran. Finally found a church on a road and darted in. The guy in the car also parked in the church lot. He finally left after 30 minutes. I was sweating. A few weeks later a sketch giving a description of the possibility of WHO could be the Zodiac Killer was on TV & newspapers. It was the same description as the man in the car following me. It haunted me. I feel very fortunate to this day.
Was the church abandoned at the time?
@@stonerwhogames7235 it could have been, I don't really remember.
@@stonerwhogames7235 there was noone there I can say that.
@billlozier5551, there’s never been any orange orchards in Modesto, CA… just trees that produce almonds, walnuts, peaches, plums, apricots, and cherries. Now it’s mostly houses and strip malls!! And all of the canneries were moved down to Mexico!!
@@RiverRat_1977 I wrote orchards. I didn't say oranges so I'm not sure what your comment is trying to say. Things change? Duh.
I was a kid in SF at the time of the Zodiac..He scared the crap out of us. I went to high school with Toschi's daughter. Crazy times!
We were in the San Joaquin valley then and I remember how the teachers were telling us that walked home from school walk in groups and go straight home! Even our teachers were scared then.
@@WhatTheFrenchToast It was a crazy time!!
Gary Francis Poste
@@charlesgerety1403 Um, no... sorry!
@@georgekouts I read the book about Gary.
Your channel is legit. You combine everything I love. True crime, pop culture, scary movies. And you guys do quality work. Thanks.
I live in Vallejo. I believe the gate was further up at this time, there used to be a big no trespassing sign years ago. They took it down because someone spray-painted a huge zodiac target on it, purposely so people could find the spot. I had endless birthday parties down the road at Blue Rock Springs park which was the site of the second murder where the male survived. You guys should have visited there you were only about 10 minutes away.
“The killers character in “Dirty Harry” was nick-named Scorpio. He was played by Andrew Robinson, whom I swear should’ve won an award for his very intense part played to the hilt. Andrew also appeared in “Hellraiser” films, playing such a creepy person! He’d be a great interview. He’s 80 now and teaches acting somewhere in CA.
I was born and raised in Concord just a few miles away, and Zodiac remained hauntingly fresh in our minds, even when I was in high school late 70's early 80's. We were real careful where we chose to go to make out even some 10 years or so after the first murder.
Do you know John Petullo?!
@@Chriskills1313 I don't think so...The name does not sound familiar.
He went to Concord High, and his father Mike Petullo was a student councilor at Clayton Valley High.
Frustrating that we’ll never know who he was and he just got away with it
Was it a he?
It was Arthur Allen
@@evilgabe666 That was disproved
40 % Of Murders Are Never Solved , Killers Are Never Caught , Even If Arrested Charged , Charges Are Dropped Due To Lack Of Evidence .. 40 %
Ross
So crazy that they never found out who killed these innocent people. So sad. Feel for the families who lost their loved ones to a crazy person.
An evil bastard!
There was a rumor it was ted kazinsky the unabomber
Gary Francis Poste
@@charlesgerety1403 Absolutely not
@@Stiruz Why do you say that? There is a ton of evidence.
Place looks pretty creepy during the day but imagine at night and then seeing the Zodiac??? Whoa 😳.
Stumble upon youre channel by chance loving youre true crime content
Another somewhat somber thing about this case is that he's probably long dead and thus got away with it all.
Criminal profiling suggests he would have been a middle aged man, so its likely he would have died quite a while ago.
God did not let him get away.
What I love about watching you is, the amount of detail and the way you tell us the story. It has me hooked. Thank you.
In from that area in fact me and my friends used to party out on Lake Herman Rd.My aunt went to school with the Zodiacs 1st 2 victims.She knew David reall well.
I was 12 living in Fairfield not far from Vallejo and riding our bikes out to Rockville Park and Mankas corner with not a care in the world. Thank goodness I really didn't know at that age what was going on.The guy was literally in our backyard.
I live a few miles from this site. I remember our parents being so freaked out about the Zodiac that they tried to stop us from going trick or treating on Halloween. We went out anyway for an extra scary Halloween even though the Zodiac threatened kids that night. Up north another 40 miles at Oak Shores/ Lake Berryessa the Zodiac killed another young couple. Super Creep.
I remember well ,scary time I was 8 and My parents wouldn’t let us Go , There as a Man that claims his DAD was Zodiac ,He found Hoodie stuffed in an old WiFi And some Sings of trademark on papers in dads home. All was turned over to FBI. Never confirmed.
Sad
At the Lake Berryessa he killed the woman, the man barely survived.
@@Chef-Really5365 interesting; what was this fellow's name?
@@Ella-iw7xn Bryan Hartnell, who is now an attorney in S. California.
My parents own one of the zodiac victims home. Very sad that they never cracked the case. May all the victims RIP
I used to go camping in Lake Berryessa as kid in the 80s with family. My mom would tell me watch out for The Zodiac when swimming. I refused to go in the lake. She would just laugh. I was The Zodiac for Halloween later in life. Scared lots of people.
Aw hell, I'll pass! I'll stick with like, Knots Berry Farm, thanks!
CA known for many infamous serial killers. The Zodiac Killer, however, continues to fascinate many crime enthusiasts due to the fact he was never identified with certainty by authorities.
In small rural towns most people don’t pay much attention to random gun shots it’s a daily thing depending on where you live or visit
True, usually just ranchers, LE, hunters, target practice, etc. in most rural parts of America.
I honestly live for your videos. I wanna say thank you for all the work you put in your videos. It shows. 🔥
Thank you for that and watching Kenny. Means a lot.
Ohhhhh yeaaaahhh,Another great video from you guys.The next 12minutes of my life is set :) Nice one.I hope you both are doing good.Greetings from Norway ,Stefan
This story has always fascinated me-one reason why, much of what transpired with the Zodiac happened in and around where I live. Passing by places where the Zodiac said he stood or where the murders took place is such an eerie and lonely feeling. Thank you for this video.
You always make my day when you post.
For some reason I always imagined the crime happening on a hill away from the road. Really interesting to see the real site. Very sad that these young souls were taken so soon and in such a senseless way. I can't even begin to imagine what this was like for their family and friends.
Thank you for publishing this video! 🙏❤✌👌👍💀💀💀💀
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Gotta love that rare occasion when TH-cam actually comes through with the recommendations. Subbed.
Watching the new broadcast of myth of the zodiac killer, and lo and behold, there's Grimm on my tv! Well done guys!!
Alright love jessica hand and arm gestures & mannerisms. It really makes the videos ALOT BETTER. Doing outstanding job brother.
I went/drove thru to site 2 years ago and the road was being re-paved. Stopped at nearby lake a few miles down and the vibe was very errie and lonely. This was around noon, still only a few people were around. I could feel that terrible things had happened. Very spooky.
I was only 6 or 7 at the time and a little boy shouldn't remember stuff like murders at a young age, but seemed like I remember all the serial killers back during that time, But yet we still kept our homes and cars unlocked.
I was only 7 when this took place but i fact i came across was the first killing was in 1966 a college girl was killed and stabbed to death , then this started the murder spree they have to suspects and the case is still open , disgusting that a human can do such things
I have recently just discovered your channel and I gotta say y’all are amazing at what y’all do.Keep up the great work!!
Interesting tidbit about my family history. Both my aunt and uncle are in the book "Zodiac" and police reports. My grandparent's ranch is located in the area of the first murder. I worked with one of the original deputies that responded to the first finding of victims.
What else interesting new things can you tell us? Lee Allen was definitely not a zodiac, judging by DNA and fingerprints, but in addition to the trailer, his house should have been thoroughly checked at the time when he was a suspect, don't you agree, mister?
Crazy they never found this guy . Another gem of a video grimm
I'd like to visit this location someday to pay my respects to the victims. I visited Washington and Cherry where Paul Stine was murdered and it was very surreal.
Love your vids but got to say that bat mobile theme tune is the dogs ghoulies!
That cut out where you parked was a lot further back 50 years ago. If you look at the picture you can clearly see how much closer the 2 hills are in the back ground.
I am so binge watching you alls videos! You do these documentaries perfect and thank you for sharing your trips!
If you ever get the chance, the Leonard Lake and Charles Ng Murder House in Wilseyville, CA is an interesting place to visit.
My grandparents started a homestead up there in 1984, at the same time Ng was busted and the bodies were discovered. I spent a lot of time in the area as a kid riding dirt bikes.
If you can go in November, the weekend before Thanksgiving, the Schaad Family Ranch still hosts the annual Wilseyville Classic AMA Hare Scrambles. It’s two days of the best amateur enduro racing imaginable.
Fact of the matter is, random killings are EXTREMELY difficult to solve. Damn near impossible.
What a mystery…makes you sick that this person walked free. A few people thought they had relatives that might be the killer, but nothing was ever proven. Sad.
Your love and appreciation for history makes this one of my favorite channels. There are several people doing this on youtube that have been doing it longer, but not better. I'd really love to see a deeper dive on locations related to The Black Dahlia case, if you're taking requests.
I'm obsessed with this channel omg
Ditto
@@christophers2959 ok
You know the Zodiac has visited this place many times. That's eerie.
Always a treat Grimmlife! Fun fact: Actor Vic Tayback, who was well known for playing "Mel" on the comedy sitcom "Alice", was looked into as a suspect for these crimes at one time. It seems they've since decided it wasn't him ; )
No way 😳 that's wild. He doesn't seem the type to me, I always got a good vibe from him on Alice.
@@lorimiller4301 Yes me too. That show always made me laugh Theyd insult his cooking and he'd tell them to "Stow it" lol
Great piece of trivia. I learned something new today, thank you.
Well kiss my grits!
Outstanding post!!!
Thank you for all your fantastic work😊😊
Another great job and video Michael & Jessica. Thank you.
The Wife and I Love You guys! Never stop doing what your doing. ❤
Another fascinating story guys thank you !
This is right on time! Thank you!
Always very well presented videos, filming in 4K makes it even more viewable. Love from Scotland 🏴
Thanks, it's great to get a quality video of the area, gives a very different understanding of the case.
This channel is pure gold!
I remember living in S.F during the 70's when the Zodiac's most wanted poster was plastered all over the city especially at the new Bart Stations around the bay. Whenever I see it, it brings back the memories of those crimes he committed, just horrific. I was in the 5 grade then around 1974-75.
Thanks for posting this. Having grown up in the Bay Area, I was well aware of the crime, but your visit to the scene makes the story much more visceral.
Thanks for taking the time to go to this scene and detail the area. Zodiac still scares us after all these years.
Life is so good when u get off work and see Grimm uploaded a good video
IVE BEEN WAITING !!! Thank you guys for giving me content to look forward to 🖤
Your videos are fascinating. Amazing stuff!
Hope your days going well!!!
I just found your channel! I’m loving your videos!
Really good presentation and informative. I hope you do all the Zodiac locations. It is a very haunting history.
Awesome video as always
Love your videos. They are always so interesting. Keep up the great work!
Been watching for a couple months!!! Yall are awesome!!! Hello from Texas!
Love all the videos keep up the great job!
When my mom was riding the light rail in the late 70s a man sat next to her and told her he was the zodiac killer and started talking to her about his crimes but she believes he was just some crazy man
Hey buddy, new to your channel. Started watching about 2 weeks ago and I've been hooked ever since. You quickly became my favourite channel on TH-cam. Thankyou for posting these videos. Keep em coming. Love from the UK 🇬🇧❤
I’m always looking for the most current video you have and enjoy following you. Especially the ones you have done in my home state of Texas. Keep “em coming.
Thanks for making a video about this spot! The zodiac case is crazy and mind-blowing that we’ll probably never know who it was. I read the entire zodiac book in 2 days because of how intriguing it is
I’ve always been curious. Thanks Jessica. Very eye opening since I’ve seen so many docs guys. You two are very good at what you do…caught your live Sunday nite..do more!
Yeah more Grimm Life :) love your videos xx
Excellent video, the Zodiac case is definitely one of the most interesting & creepy ones, great work
I just love the beginning Music. Fits your videos perfect.
This case has always fascinated me. Thanks for doing what you do. You both never disappoint. Happy Halloween!!!
So happy I found your channel
So crazy! Awesome video. I love watching the zodiac movie because this mystery has always intrigued me.
This is cool . I'm right across the bridge from vallejo in Crockett Ca. The high school here in crockett is where The lead singer for Green Day went to school. And they filmed parts of the movie The Hearafter at C&H Suger. Mare island in Vallejo has a lot of history to. Keep up the awesome videos you are doing
Micheal....bravo dude. Riveting Content. TWO thumbs up, the production of the video, the backstory, the research you elaborate on. You are firing on all cylinders.
Drove here by myself. It is very eerie and you can absolutely feel how desolate it is, you can 100% imagine a murder happening there
Hey Grim Adventures I LOVE your guys videos I binge watch All the time keep em coming you guys Should do a random video sometime about the "Skin Walker" ranch something off the wall
Thanks for sharing locations of murders. 5 years crazy.
Great video!!! 💘
This channel is Sublime, glad I found it! I bet that parking spot is hella spooky at night since they never caught the sob!
Great video like always
Thank you for this great video of the crime scene.I am right in the middle of reading the book by the man who claims his father was the zodiac killer. I am old enough to remember these murders, and much of the coverage over the ensuing years. It seems to be in neverending story.
One of the best channels on TH-cam. 👍
Perfect content as always
Love this. Please do the other Zodiac sites!
another great video I really enjoyed it, can't wait for the live ghost hunt I'm so excited
Nice videos, recently discovered your channel and been watching quite a lot of those location videos. Also, your intro-music always reminds me of the intro to True Blood series. Keep it up! cheers from Sweden.
Just found your channel. So amazing ! You got a new subscriber. Hope your channel blows up more. You guys deserve it. Thank you.
I agree
A Zodiac documentary had an interview with one of the police officers that night and David was apparently still breathing when they got there. He had a ring in his hand I assume he was going to give it to her. The documentary was interesting because they interviewed the police officers and victims that lived in the other cases. (Michael Mageau and Bryan Hartnell).
Great channel!!!