Earth 2 CEO Responds to the Lawsuit with a Video

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  • So, this whole Earth 2 thing is ridiculous at this point. The CEO has entered the fray with a response video of his own.
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  • @BigfryTV
    @BigfryTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +746

    So, at the very least there is no lawsuit...but Tanner is being defended here so vigorously...even though he lied through his teeth and got caught. Yikes.
    Subscribe for more videos, like the video if you enjoyed it, and I'll see you on the next one

    • @scorpionjimmy8734
      @scorpionjimmy8734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah I really like your works and videos buddy, also, I love how confident you are that you will release more videos later on. Clearly their lawsuit isn’t something even worth worrying

    • @DarkKitarist
      @DarkKitarist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Dude if you or Sid or UpperEchelonGaming do go the court route we got your back fam! The gaming community has your damn back. We'll make a goFundMe, indiegogo!!! We'll take it to the top. Let's write to Sleepy Joe!

    • @trial_with_an_error9687
      @trial_with_an_error9687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarkKitarist I'll support Did and BigFry, UEG can fend for himself lol

    • @shanbannan17
      @shanbannan17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      we ar not a scam says the pyramid maker its like the idiots who ar in a public spaces who go crazy and scream i have not given my consent to be filmed rofl

    • @dylantortosa7678
      @dylantortosa7678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Usually people who are liars, defend themselves in the worst ways lol. Good stuff on the video

  • @Ars-Nova258
    @Ars-Nova258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1008

    “This individual has lied about their age to develop inadequate products while exploiting flawed copyright systems in private sites to silence criticism and facts.”
    Earth 2 CEO: “STOP BULLYING MINORS MENTAL HEALTH IS A HORRIFIC ISSUE!!!”

    • @mierzhen
      @mierzhen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      "This individual has also stolen artwork from other people, copy and stitched assets to make this frankensteinish product, gathered people to create fraudulent reviews that are borderline deceiving"
      Earth 2 CEO: "sToP tHe HaTiN oN tHiS mInOr!i! He'S jUsT a KiD!i"
      (Despite Steam TOS explicitly stating that you MUST be at least 18 years of age or older in order to publish games onto the platform)

    • @KorilD
      @KorilD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      As someone who was bullied and has several mental illnesses, this was particularly offensive to me. Criticizing a product you paid money for is not bullying, and mental illness does not excuse thievery.

    • @raamaa202
      @raamaa202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Honestly if anything the response from the CEO of Earth2 proves that he is incompetent at his job.

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It's bullying to say that someone is scamming people when they're scamming people. -Earth 2 CEO.

    • @samroyans9258
      @samroyans9258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Interesting if he disclosed his mental health to the army.... I'm fairly sure they are pretty hot on that stuff

  • @FourDozenEggs
    @FourDozenEggs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +442

    The moment they hired Tanner is what confirmed that it's a scam. Why would a company hire on a kid who isn't skilled in the slightest and has a negative reputation for being a scammer? It just does not add up.

    • @mflax4331
      @mflax4331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      2 (or more) of the same kind?

    • @Nabuchodonozord
      @Nabuchodonozord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Probably purely because the kid has a bone to pick with these youtubers and could dedicate all his time to "dealing with" the drama. Shouldn't have anything to do with his dev skills or potential scam. They found a common enemy and a kid to fight their war. Now that the kid made a fool of himself, it's "omg you're bullying a kid".

    • @IlluminatiJoeCrusade
      @IlluminatiJoeCrusade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Actually, it does add up... to a scam

    • @Acheron666
      @Acheron666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They need a loudmouth to make threats…..Because CEO Shane doesn’t have the balls to do it himself.

    • @kleindirndlfein
      @kleindirndlfein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They hired him because he's a good liar and they don't know him well.[sic] I love how this guy doesn't realize how badly he's shooting himself in the foot with his own statements.

  • @alanwatts8239
    @alanwatts8239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    "look, we are not a scam, we are not a scam!"
    Morgan Freeman, narrating: *it was a scam*

  • @armacham230
    @armacham230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +547

    Arya Realty supports death threats. Shane: Who cares?
    Bigfry critiques a lying kids trash game.
    Shane: Wait, that's illegal.

    • @straightupgamer354
      @straightupgamer354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lmfao omg is that really how iit goes

    • @tdg710
      @tdg710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      the simping Arya did on behalf of that WoW girl was illegal, or should be. Borderline fucking stalking and harassment.

    • @ASPECTICORTRAININGVIDEOS
      @ASPECTICORTRAININGVIDEOS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@drewbienewbie03xx81 If a person [who is big in the community] is making your community look like stalking harrassing pieces of shit you usually speak up and try and stop it from expanding and blowing up.

    • @armacham230
      @armacham230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@drewbienewbie03xx81 He still represents them through his Discord moderator role or whatever it is he has with them. Perhaps not on payroll, or an official representative but its bad PR either way.

    • @LoneWolf6063
      @LoneWolf6063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@drewbienewbie03xx81 There's a reason why people hate bts because of their toxic fans. Similar logic can be used here

  • @Krondon-SSR
    @Krondon-SSR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +614

    WE HAVE NEVER been scammed, believe us (hires Tanner)

    • @StrangerOnTheWeb
      @StrangerOnTheWeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Tanner? More like Scammer

    • @Delaterius
      @Delaterius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hold on. Why did they hire him? There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of game devs at or above his level. There is nothing to recommend this guy above anyone else, and they hired him when he's only months from leaving for the military. And, the only thing I can see that would make him relevant to the project is the fact that he has a history with the people who are warning others that Earth 2 is a scam. And then, "someone" "illegally" "leaked" Tanner's conversation about those detractors that was certain to get them to respond, and this snake was immediately ready with a prepared monologue accusing them of being cyberbullies. These. Guys. Are. Scammers.

    • @Synezky
      @Synezky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Delaterius thats why. If they are multi millions company, why dont they hired AAA dev, or atleast a good indie dev that proven by their product and attitude, not tanner who bigfry talked about it few month ago, stealing assett.

    • @ciprianvlmx
      @ciprianvlmx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      KGTKUCO1JQ

    • @cliftut
      @cliftut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Delaterius As a stranger that just landed here due to algorithm magic I don't have enough information to be sure of the situation (though BIgFry's commentary rings pretty true to me based on what I've seen about other situations).

  • @cereal65
    @cereal65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    "Bro do your research"
    "No not that research"

    • @tvlkn9130
      @tvlkn9130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Look, this isn't working.. It's pretty simple really, here is a bunch of stuff that I personally curated from my echo chamber, just look at that stuff ok.. See it's fine, no mention of any scams, just opportunities man.. You got yourself all confused with that fake news shit.. Oh by the way, want my promo code?

    • @sparkofcuriousity
      @sparkofcuriousity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Shit Poster #7776 well, trump is also a scammer so he wasn't wrong to mention it.

    • @ownenk
      @ownenk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sparkofcuriousity what is with you people

    • @ownenk
      @ownenk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Hotline: Finn q following trump supports are like 1% of trump supporters, you’re so susceptible to propaganda it’s ridiculous

    • @tripleheadedmonkey6613
      @tripleheadedmonkey6613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ownenk Well it's always the 1% in the equation who own more than all of the rest of the 99% combined anyway. So perhaps it isn't that ridiculous.

  • @sinjin8576
    @sinjin8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    This really is digital homicide tier.
    "Stop saying our product is bad!"
    "Then make a good product."
    "REEEEEE"

    • @wargh12
      @wargh12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "This is not fair use because you are unfair to us"%))

    • @redbeardsteelskin6723
      @redbeardsteelskin6723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hell, MAKE a product to begin with, then we'll talk about good/bad.

  • @rafterman5072
    @rafterman5072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    Why on Earth would they hire a kid that can’t code onto their project? Not to mention, he can’t stop running his mouth and causes them even more issues.

    • @deathwish-gg8wz
      @deathwish-gg8wz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      because they aren't on Earth they are on Earth 2

    • @Captain.AmericaV1
      @Captain.AmericaV1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@deathwish-gg8wz lmao brilliant 👏🤣

    • @foxyfoxington2651
      @foxyfoxington2651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      At any reputable company this would get you fired pretty much immediately.

    • @goddimmus
      @goddimmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because on Earth 2 Bigfry, Upper Echelon, and Sidalpha are the bad guys...the problem is that they live on Earth.....the first one.

    • @rafterman5072
      @rafterman5072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deathwish-gg8wz lol That’s true

  • @BobbyCampbell93
    @BobbyCampbell93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    This has turned into a three-ring circus

    • @scorpionjimmy8734
      @scorpionjimmy8734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      No shit, it’s getting funnier

    • @kriek9222
      @kriek9222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The rings will be available during the next phase of their development and fully playable in 2 - 3 years

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shit show for sure and is free advertising

    • @Erythnull
      @Erythnull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Earth 2: Where the clowns are the ringleaders.

  • @mrtegs
    @mrtegs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    So he basically started shitting bricks and tried changing the narrative to "bullying Tanner" when everyone didn't back down from the lawsuit threat

    • @DarkKitarist
      @DarkKitarist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Lol him starting with BigFry bullying Tanner gives me all the information that I needed to know... Scam, scam, scammity scam SCAM!!!

    • @scorpionjimmy8734
      @scorpionjimmy8734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Basically, yes

    • @blackphillip4424
      @blackphillip4424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ah you might be on to something

    • @robovinefilms1811
      @robovinefilms1811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep

    • @Carnyzzle
      @Carnyzzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@DarkKitarist
      the fact that he's going with bullying when Tanner was the one who lied about his age by putting a game up on steam lmao

  • @cormoran2303
    @cormoran2303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    1930s: 15 year olds lied about their age to go to war
    2010s: 15 year olds lied about their age to rip gamers off

  • @Khalith
    @Khalith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Hard to believe he’s going to bat for an employee who did something like this. If he were smart he’d cut ties with Tanner.

    • @Carnyzzle
      @Carnyzzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      the thing is he thinks he can build Ready Player One so we know he's not smart

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The fact he isn't fired like he would be anywhere else tells me the rumors are true and they got caught.

  • @ultimatekctv7378
    @ultimatekctv7378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +377

    Holy.
    This thing is like the universe, forever expanding drama.

    • @jamesesparza6893
      @jamesesparza6893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You clearly don't know much about crypto-based games and the community that surrounds them. This could have been one of many different games that would have all reacted maybe not so outlandish because of the particular Dev but definitely something that could be considered whacking a hornet's nest

    • @tdg710
      @tdg710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe the universe is actually contracting.

    • @ultimatekctv7378
      @ultimatekctv7378 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesesparza6893 Ever heard of the Dunning-kruger effect ?

    • @jamesesparza6893
      @jamesesparza6893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ultimatekctv7378 yeah has nothing to do with this because crypto based communities are all about their reputation the moment one of them is labeled a scam it goes all throughout the entire freaking crypto world and people start avoiding it like the plague. These guys don't want to shut up about it they want to make the largest stink of it possible to try to save as much of their reputation that they got left in the crypto sphere.

    • @brucecampbellschin8632
      @brucecampbellschin8632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The MCU ain't got nothing E2 cinematic universe.

  • @crowcoregames1785
    @crowcoregames1785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    as i said "even if its a lie, the fact hes willing to lie and insinuate this shows how the community is beyond toxic"

  • @JorGaming
    @JorGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    It's important to listen to what he say's when defending the kid:
    "Apparently some models where used without the correct licensing in the game and this became the main point of focus, even if this was true you have a ambitious 15 year old kid here, give him some feedback and let him continue on" In other words "We totally agree on stealing, It's nothing to be ashamed about, it's being ambitious". They knew exactly who they got onboards, they are by all means a band of thieves, each and everyone involved.
    The CEO is a massive crook, he doesn't give a fuck about the reputation of his company cause he knows in a bit he will have the big money and runs off.
    "You are bullying a kid" the kid claimed to be mature, another statement to try and gain pity and to show "See we are the good guy's we give him a opportunity where others try to destroy him".
    Everything this CEO say's is just BS. He is okay with someone lying about him that could hurt his company very badly and instead focuses on outside sources who cover it and even say's "They did so without knowing the facts". The facts were that a employee who got hired a few day's ago made claims that you were gonna sue. Those are the facts, the facts are out there, a official member of the staff made a claim and said it was legit.
    Another fact, a company with a bad reputation deemed it a smart move to hire a guy that was having a even worse reputation. Then hide behind "I don't know the guy very well" then who the fuck hired him and why wasn't there a background check hm? You aren't exactly in a favorable position, I would be very careful with who I would associate me if my company would have a bad reputation already and me claiming we are legit. I would hire respected people instead of those who have a reputation of stealing, lying and harrassing.

  • @AnkushB1811
    @AnkushB1811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    If they actually sue I think the judge is going to be confused as hell.

    • @Jenova1009
      @Jenova1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah, hed rip this sh*t apart

    • @Struggle.Snuggles
      @Struggle.Snuggles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      A judge is going to look at this and I bet you anything, the first question will be, "how old were you then?".

    • @AnkushB1811
      @AnkushB1811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Struggle.Snuggles haha true

  • @Antenociti
    @Antenociti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    "We hired him on a trial basis" - Trial over Baby!

    • @b152349
      @b152349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yea wtf do you need to find out about a person for a trial period to end? Lmao

    • @-macaskill-6488
      @-macaskill-6488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@b152349 Definitely not the sound of his voice, as that was clearly missed.

  • @basedshaolin1073
    @basedshaolin1073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I figured it out: they hired Tanner purposefully so as to pivot attention from their scam to cyber bullying, an attempt to delegitimize your argument.

    • @itsennzo3068
      @itsennzo3068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      🎯

    • @Historyfan476AD
      @Historyfan476AD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your on the right path I bet, But I think the Tanner is a pivot/distraction for the top members of Earth 2 so they can prepare to run with the cash while Tanner is being used as a sacrificial Lamb.

    • @brettjones9590
      @brettjones9590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Historyfan476AD Exactly. This ‘rogue dev’ given a chance, ruined our ‘game’ reputation so we have to close our studio. No refunds sorry. Although Arya is a good candidate for the patsy/holding the bag man. I use the term man in it’s strictly biological manner.

    • @basedshaolin1073
      @basedshaolin1073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Historyfan476AD That is a valid argument I can entertain.

    • @0westdude
      @0westdude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hit the nail on the head there

  • @ultimamage3
    @ultimamage3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    So they're letting Tanner run his mouth about a $3million lawsuit, and isn't concerned about how much of a PR suicide that is to *allegedly* have enough funds to blow for a millions-dollars lawsuit while they can't resolve the issues people have been having for MONTHS wrt withdrawing their money?

    • @doubtful_seer
      @doubtful_seer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think thinking ahead is a talent these people have.

    • @Tnargav
      @Tnargav 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doubtful_seer Oh, no. They have a good thinking ahead talent just not the one we think of.

  • @DarkKitarist
    @DarkKitarist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    This Earth2 drama lowered the level of emergency popcorn in my town... It's a damn drama ride

  • @oicmorez4129
    @oicmorez4129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "Bullying a 15 year old"
    Dud claimed he's an adult. If he says he's ready for the adult world, he'll get the adult world

  • @lestrexx7769
    @lestrexx7769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    "We are not a scam" - CEO of the Scam

  • @PandoraRei
    @PandoraRei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    The way he defends Tanner makes me wonder if there actually was talk of a lawsuit, but backed down after that audio leaked. You never know. With what they’ve been pushing with Earth 2, anything is possible at this point.

    • @foxyfoxington2651
      @foxyfoxington2651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      More likely: There was talk of a lawsuit, but their lawyer told them they didn't have a case.

    • @slightlyamusedblackkidfrom9153
      @slightlyamusedblackkidfrom9153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Id put my money on that for sure.

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also any other CEO would have fired him immediately because legal mess it could have started with counter lawsuits being filed. Yet he isn't fired, so a lawsuit was planned.

    • @brieb402
      @brieb402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's probably exactly what happened. But on top of it they probably realized the court wouldn't be on their side with this one.

  • @kesamek8537
    @kesamek8537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Imagine being a millionaire unable to afford a decent microphone.

    • @Mozehs
      @Mozehs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because he’s not an actual millionaire lmao, this guy probably earns enough to scrape by.

    • @rubbertoe.
      @rubbertoe. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      or webcam lmao

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Can't believe Arya has a better setup then the ceo of the "company" he is simping for...

    • @jeanmarcwatson
      @jeanmarcwatson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He's living in a rental property. Air conditioning unit and crappy slat blinds are testament to that. Not many millionaires live in rentals here in Australia.

    • @VonUmpiantu
      @VonUmpiantu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mozehs 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ItsGage
    @ItsGage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This dude is living in Earth 2, time to come back to Earth 1 bud😂

  • @pushqrdx
    @pushqrdx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Second chance while he's literally still LYING and faking reviews, spreading rumors on other people's behalf. Aren't second chances supposed to be given to someone who started getting their crap on track? Also the whole minor shit is absurd simply because everybody who criticized the game through steam knew that it should be an adult behind it, the fact that he lied about his age is his own fault

  • @foxyfoxington2651
    @foxyfoxington2651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Wants to do everything he can to avoid having to actually prove what he says in a court of law... Because he knows that a lawsuit means they'd have to open their books.

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The fact the kid isn't fired over that is huge sign there were in the very least talking to lawyers and got caught.

    • @squeebbb
      @squeebbb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zack9912000 Imagine how upsetting for the Earth2 community it would be knowing the devs used money that was put towards development for a lawsuit against some TH-camrs who have opinions.

  • @darthtator1221
    @darthtator1221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    These people are paper tigers, I doubt they'll actually do anything to be honest.

  • @scorpionjimmy8734
    @scorpionjimmy8734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    It’s funny because the more they try to defense, the more it looks like it’s a scam. True hard work studios or developers will focus on their own project, not to tell others that they are wrong and spend money just to take them down.

    • @Carnyzzle
      @Carnyzzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      also note how they can come out and defend one of their devs but can't respond to why some people have to wait weeks before they get their money that they put into Earth 2

    • @Jenova1009
      @Jenova1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just look at ubisoft, they can pull of a better scam than e2 and call it a fully fleshed game smh

  • @pumajlr
    @pumajlr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Basically he's trying to manipulate public opinion against you. That's his strategy.
    That's why his speech is about being a victim, that's why he made a video, that's why he refers to an adult as a "kid" (it's funny how depending on your convenience a 18 years old is a kid or a man).

    • @dimielgo2267
      @dimielgo2267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ever heard of a colloquialism, chud?

    • @ThePWAH917
      @ThePWAH917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@dimielgo2267 The entire video he refers to Tanner as a 15 year old, despite him being 18. He's not using it colloquially at all lmao

    • @dimielgo2267
      @dimielgo2267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePWAH917 citation needed buddy

    • @ThePWAH917
      @ThePWAH917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dimielgo2267 Your citation is the video. Not once does he refer to him in any other context than when he was 15

  • @Hiraeth-0X
    @Hiraeth-0X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Reasons why i Like bigfry
    1. He doesn't sugarcoat His Reviews
    Wich i very much like

  • @jackalj8571
    @jackalj8571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Think they hired Tanner for the "no publicity is bad publicity" virtue?
    Hopefully the military shapes Tanner up and sets him straight. If he even is going to the military...

    • @MrJohnlennon007
      @MrJohnlennon007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Do you think someone like that would get into the military? He would probably pretend he did and have stolen valour.

    • @shadowpeople2645
      @shadowpeople2645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt a kangaroo be a better soldier than him

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He won't make it though basic and will get kicked out and will claim he is some SF soldier with war stories to boot

    • @sevenracing3092
      @sevenracing3092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If Tanner continues this shit publically while supposedly being in the military, that will be the end of his career extremely quickly. Australian military does not put up with this kind of public stupidity at all. Not to mention, none of it makes sense. With a history like his, I highly doubt he was accepted in. Secondly, why would he be hired onto "the biggest game development undertaking ever seen" just before he goes off to basic training with the military? So to get on the same page here, E2 just hired a guy that will be leaving with basically no contact for 3 months, then shipped off to his job training for multiple years and will not have any time at all to work on the development of the game. How does this make any sense at all?

  • @giovannicarrasco147
    @giovannicarrasco147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    How is that the office of the CEO supposedly making the biggest game in history? Like we have all seen passionate game offices, that kinda shows me he may be outta touch.

    • @user-bk7to8gn5l
      @user-bk7to8gn5l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He bought some Mario Kart toys and put them in the background to show people what a passionate and real gamer boi he is

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was laughing the entire video... i could not take my eye from those toys he probably got at the 99c store!
      Tho they match good with the 20 dlls headset. Ok im not sure what headset it is. But is still hilarious.

    • @Hitman2b
      @Hitman2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      probably because the CEO is another scammer friend with tanner

    • @DarkRa
      @DarkRa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the original doom office was better then this lol

    • @commanderblaze2094
      @commanderblaze2094 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen better offices in alleyways. that is 100% a hastily converted bedroom. and a CEO of a massive company yet cant afford audio stuff that even a guy can get with his own money working at McDonalds with way better quality? yeah bs.

  • @orenjirenji
    @orenjirenji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    “We are not a scam”
    I’m convinced Bigfry why are you accusing themm??

    • @domo7415
      @domo7415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ik that was the most convincing shit I’ve heard

    • @OuPoot999
      @OuPoot999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fully agree, why would Shane lie? He looks soooooooo honest.

  • @DanielWilliams-db6wl
    @DanielWilliams-db6wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Some Australian territories allow individuals to record phone calls whenever they want. For example, in Queensland, you can record a phone conversation with the consent of only one party - the other person doesn’t even have to know the phone call is being recorded.
    Oops

    • @jakzine540
      @jakzine540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As it is in most US states.

    • @DanielWilliams-db6wl
      @DanielWilliams-db6wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jakzine540 well yes but this was specifically recorded in Queensland AU. Can BigFry publish it without the consent of both parties? If he feels it is in the public interest. So basically yes

    • @jakzine540
      @jakzine540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DanielWilliams-db6wl Hey, if it's legal in US, Australian, and Canadian territories then so much the better for Bigfry.

    • @EdmontonFamilyOfficial
      @EdmontonFamilyOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jakzine540 if you want a really good laugh go watch BigFry's "BigFry Trashes Fake game devs" video it's so good. I re-watch it alot.

    • @michaeldonaven3463
      @michaeldonaven3463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jakzine540 As far as I know in Canada, if it related to work in any way you can record it without the consent of the other party so long as the intent isn't to seek out malice.

  • @willk6769
    @willk6769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The drama never ends

    • @staceydavis8112
      @staceydavis8112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Welcome to TH-cam hun

    • @deltakronrewardsvariant4340
      @deltakronrewardsvariant4340 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bigfry is evolving!

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact all this dram.over youtube videos screams scam, no legitimate company would put such efforts out there like this. If there was legitimate legal problems the company would just send the lawyers out and say nothing

  • @deralbtraumritter8573
    @deralbtraumritter8573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    So, he defends Tanner, even tho Tanner is going out and saying there's a lawsuit...

    • @OlEgSaS32
      @OlEgSaS32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      priorities, man...Shane has none

    • @deralbtraumritter8573
      @deralbtraumritter8573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OlEgSaS32 lol no he does:
      Scam ppl, make money

  • @chronicplays9037
    @chronicplays9037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If star citizen isn’t done there’s no way this shit will ever even come close

  • @Veggum
    @Veggum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "I dont know him, I dont even know what his voice sounds like"
    "Here is every single fact about what happened over the last 3 years with him"
    Okay so either A) You're just parroting the story he told you and have no clue about what you're talking about or B) You're lying about not really knowing him

    • @youcancallmedoggie
      @youcancallmedoggie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      okay,, it didnt even occured to me while i was watching the video! Great point!

    • @Anomaly188
      @Anomaly188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liars defending liars.

  • @minetrackmania
    @minetrackmania 3 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    The first dislike is from an Earth 2 supporter, definitely.

    • @flo9133
      @flo9133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      that's the whole community then!?

    • @deandarvin553
      @deandarvin553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Shane Isaac himself

    • @netrunners_anonymous
      @netrunners_anonymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@deandarvin553 LMAO

    • @chythompson1222
      @chythompson1222 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I invested in it way back I feel dumb

  • @GriZZZly123
    @GriZZZly123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    this whole situatation turned into a bruh moment

    • @DarkKitarist
      @DarkKitarist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bruh... I mean bruh c'mon it's so obviously a scam that the only thing that would make it more obvious is if they somehow put up a sign saying "We are scamming you!!" in front of their offices in Australia...

    • @GriZZZly123
      @GriZZZly123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarkKitarist couldn't agree more

  • @HaosOnline
    @HaosOnline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    "We are not a scam" thats something someone who is scamming people would say.

    • @ThatLoudCockatoo
      @ThatLoudCockatoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think every scammer ever has a quote at some point of saying they aren't a scam lol
      But the Earth 2 supporters will take this as gospel to justify their own bad life decisions to themselves

    • @Acheron666
      @Acheron666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “What would I get out of scamming someone?”
      ~Butterfinger. 2021.

    • @doubtful_seer
      @doubtful_seer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
      **jazz’s away**

  • @jprsfragoso
    @jprsfragoso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "We feel this is not ok".... oh, please, do use that argument in court, if it ever gets there.

  • @CranberryBadger
    @CranberryBadger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why would any give this guy money to make a game? If he had any real intention, he would fire Tanner and research the events that actually happened previously.... even before they hired him.

  • @Shadowz2704
    @Shadowz2704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Damn, I own a restaurant, can I sue anyone who leaves a negative review on my business??

    • @ram89572
      @ram89572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sure, just be prepared to lose

    • @PeaneutzTV
      @PeaneutzTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget to declare your 15 years old son the owner, so the judge will be like "its okay since he is under-aged".

  • @IV_Boi
    @IV_Boi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When ur 15 and make a shit game it doesn’t mean no one can criticize you…cuz ur 15

    • @georgewilson1890
      @georgewilson1890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favoueite past time when I was a young teenager was scamming people. You can't blame a teenager for.scamming someone its something every teenager does.

  • @shauriasimmons6428
    @shauriasimmons6428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "I don't know this kid well"? How did he get employed without his game design background being checked?

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THIS

    • @LtBernum
      @LtBernum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      imma put all my money on Tanner playing Rust with Shane.

  • @Ivandsi
    @Ivandsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    10:00 The funny thing about this is that he just debunked the call being illegally made since he doesn't even know if it's his employee xD

  • @nofxceghxst9192
    @nofxceghxst9192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Glad to know i could contribute to the downfall of a scam in some way

  • @deralbtraumritter8573
    @deralbtraumritter8573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's funny that these ppl spend more time on the drama than they do on the actual so called "game"

  • @GeorgiaMan
    @GeorgiaMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tanner threw a tantrum.
    He threw a Tannertrum.

  • @swank8385
    @swank8385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I swear this is infinity war
    The CEO looks like starlords dad from guardians of the galaxy 2
    **something feels wrong here**

  • @goddimmus
    @goddimmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They looked into the harbor and saw "The White Whale" rolling up his shirt sleeves while smoking a cigar.....and decided that today might not be the best day to try.

  • @ideal2334
    @ideal2334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh boy mental health, there sure are gonna be a lot of mental health problems when people realize they've lost thousands upon thousands of dollars to the new exciting meta verse.

  • @Guilmonhero
    @Guilmonhero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Why don't you just criticize him and be on your way?"
    That's LITERALLY all he did. That's *LITERALLY* the main point of his channel, review early access games to see if they're worth it or not. These developers and their fans are the ones who are making everything worse by trying to silence their critics in the most asinine way. It's funny in a strange roundabout way, you and the other TH-camrs show more journalistic integrity than most of the other journalists who would rather attack their audience and blow small things inside the games way out of proportions

  • @TheCoolCore
    @TheCoolCore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We investigated ourselves, and we found out that we aren't a scam. Yeah, it checks out...
    Oh, and the f***ing audio, can't a 'millionaire' buy a mic and a cam, not straight out 03. Damn it buy a phone at least...

  • @simonelgie
    @simonelgie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What a complete mess....
    The fact the age of 'Benson,' says it all, can they not find anymore more skilled or experienced to work with, or is the pot really that empty?

    • @shadowpeople2645
      @shadowpeople2645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like ive seen modders for the lewd side of skyrim is better developers

  • @JuuMAN52
    @JuuMAN52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like how quickly this dude spined out and was like I'm just being nice and helping a kid.

  • @Xandros-cx3me
    @Xandros-cx3me 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For someone who "doesn't know him well", he sure is awfully defensive of the little liar. 🤔

  • @XDarkAllNightX
    @XDarkAllNightX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wait wut? So he didn't know the kid well enough to know his voice, but enough to know what he went through??

  • @kai5698
    @kai5698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This whole thing is just a fiesta.

  • @HilarityBribo
    @HilarityBribo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sounds like the CEO sees a future scamming apprentice in Tanner.
    People attacking BigFry just digging their hole deeper.

  • @HollowHouse3
    @HollowHouse3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Only losers who know they're losing resort to calling their critics bullies.

  • @Veiss7
    @Veiss7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you have to say "we are not a scam," It's definitely a scam.

  • @r3gret2079
    @r3gret2079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I send you my deepest apologies for messing up your 420 like count. T'was a hard decision to like this great video, but it had to be done. Now I shall live with this shame for the rest of my years.

    • @jackalj8571
      @jackalj8571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely disgusting

    • @r3gret2079
      @r3gret2079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackalj8571 Lol. Please, I dunno how to live with what I have done!

    • @yetidoesstuff228
      @yetidoesstuff228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@r3gret2079 hell is a nice place to go
      Ooo maybe the fields of punishment.
      JK

    • @r3gret2079
      @r3gret2079 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yetidoesstuff228 hahaaa! Thats good.
      After this truly deplorable deed, I might have to search for a timeshare in hell as close to the fields as possible.

  • @TRFHoj
    @TRFHoj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That doesn't look like a room of someone who's got millions to spare for a lawsuit :D

  • @dynahack505
    @dynahack505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know. I’ve been watching your channel for awhile now. And where I can’t always say I agree with your reviews, there are times where I am wholeheartedly compelled to cheer you on. You are 100% correct with this whole situation and I’m so happy to see you’re not taking the knee here. Fight the fight! You know you’re right, don’t need to here it from me. Keep on going on man!

  • @GojiraRising
    @GojiraRising 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've run out of popcorn.

  • @SirDehumanized
    @SirDehumanized 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The thing is. These guys definitely could make a game considering the amount of money they’re pulling in. It definitely is not going to be the Matrix. That’s fantasy if not a straight up lie. But now by being blatantly disingenuous and incompetent they are killing any kind of credibility that they possibly could’ve had.

  • @ODSTGeneralYT
    @ODSTGeneralYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I have watched a few of your videos in the past and never ended up subscribing. You just popped back up on my feed here today and I didn't think to much of it because I had watched several videos of yours for a while there. Having watched the last video and then this one I was shocked to hear about Monogon. Tanner actually reached out to me earlier this month about featuring a video on Monogon on my channel. I had been holding off to see how development continued with the project because I wasn't really impressed by what I had seen. So having this pop up and finding out its made by the same guy makes me happy I held off on it!

  • @JakeAdkinsMusic
    @JakeAdkinsMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was willing to hear him out until "We're not a scam"

  • @kevinlaster
    @kevinlaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve spent all day watching the saga, fucking great

  • @andrewramzzy5410
    @andrewramzzy5410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I feel if you have to say " we are not a scam" you most definitely are!

  • @D00000T
    @D00000T 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If a 15 year old can’t stand up for himself against drama he got into willingly in today’s age than that’s kinda his own fault. You can’t consider it bullying when he took the initiative to fight back instead of making any of the reasonable decisions to either ignore online drama or work on his project to prove the people criticizing him wrong.

  • @zerocool8301
    @zerocool8301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    absolutely brutal and astute commentary on this one Big Fry. Pointing everything out and asking all the right questions.

  • @colonelsandals6991
    @colonelsandals6991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s crazy how far this has gone

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fact it has just makes the game even more clear as day it is a scam. Only Scammers freak out like this

  • @xadine7125
    @xadine7125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait let me sum it up: A dude in his basement is running a "company" that developing a game that he affirm is definitely "not a scam" though it cannot match his agenda. Said game is being developed by known "definitely not scammers" devs that have past experiences of not finishing game and stealing assets. And that dude will not sue you even though you clearly lying about his company...
    Makes total sense to me. I'm in where do I buy tiles?

    • @DarkRa
      @DarkRa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also is saying because he was 15 it ok for him to break laws for copyright lol

  • @SuperSteve180
    @SuperSteve180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who was bullied in middle school I know how damaging it can be, however there is a difference in bullying and calling someone out. I don't care what age you are, if you do something wrong you need to be called out on it. This is why a lot of young people are so messed up today because they are not held responsible for their actions and think they can do whatever they want and honestly, that only hurts them in the long run.

  • @simoklownz2267
    @simoklownz2267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks foe you services @BigfryTV

  • @gixG17
    @gixG17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Giving him a second chance" - Aka: We acknowledge the individual's wrongdoings.

  • @Basvision
    @Basvision 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can only guess whats going on in those heads... or not going on.

  • @Scarecr0wn
    @Scarecr0wn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I´d be found out talking like that about CEO of company I worked in, I wouldn´t be just fired. I´d probably get sued and no other big company would even invite me for an interview.

  • @gabriels2243
    @gabriels2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We are not a scam. We won't address the statements directly about us using store-bought assets or our actual competence and work history. But we are not a scam."

  • @SwedudeEPIC
    @SwedudeEPIC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One dislike, ohh how I wonder who that could be? xD

  • @crunchykevlar
    @crunchykevlar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lmao this is absolutely hilarious it's gonna massively backfire on them

  • @catbox7958
    @catbox7958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how the background footage of these here update videos is just the poorly designed asset flip

  • @JabangoCornelius
    @JabangoCornelius 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SO glad I stumbled upon this situation! The ride never ends!

  • @risu7587
    @risu7587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    >wanting to make one of the "best game" similar like Ready Player One
    >hires a kid that not even know how to code, and even have a bad rap instead of a professional game dev
    W H A T ?

  • @YUURRRRRofficial
    @YUURRRRRofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Chronicles continues

  • @mysterynad
    @mysterynad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If one of my employees went on the internet and said I was about to spend millions of backer dollars on a baseless defamation lawsuit, when I had zero plans to do so, they would have not only been fired but I would have sued them myself for slander. This guy goes out and pretends it's someone else's voice in one breath and then defends the kid with the next. Total scam here.

  • @johno7370
    @johno7370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dude, you sir have just gained a sub. I love the straight up nature of your videos and well balanced/researched info. Keep up the good work!!!

  • @kupokinzyt
    @kupokinzyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my, my favorite weekly TV show. I wonder what's on this episode

  • @coenogo
    @coenogo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even Star Citizen is more of a game than Earth2

  • @KerboOnYT
    @KerboOnYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Earth 2: The gift that keeps on giving

  • @PerspectivEs
    @PerspectivEs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah fuck, Shane's wearing G432s. Now I have to throw my headset in the garbage.

  • @chernobyl169
    @chernobyl169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So he hired the kid on a trial basis, the kid got caught lying about the company being involved with a lawsuit, and the CEO is more pissed off about an illegal recording and bullying.
    I feel like I've heard this one somewhere before. Can't put my finger on it.

  • @LeSkinner
    @LeSkinner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bet you they’re gonna cancel the whole project soon and be like “oh we’re gonna give up because of all the bullying” and there goes the hundreds of thousands of dollars invested so far 🤡

  • @blazindragon296
    @blazindragon296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    scammers normally would speak out "I'm Not a Scammer!" but some devs are just quite don't say a damn thing then BAM! an amazing master piece has be created.

  • @DeanAshford
    @DeanAshford 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:45 "I don't know him well enough to recognise the voice" .... seconds earlier "definitely an illegal recording our juniour dev, naughty naughty"